Blasphemous nonsense. You should feel shame if you watch this trash.
Hottest take of 2007
>>216973288Shy aren't there more movies with dirigibles ?
>>216973288Should have gotten the full trilogy, instead of making a lame version where Will is black.
>>216973567Are you familiar with Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
>>216973288Why did christians boycott this film? I remember they thought it was evil
>>216973288All I know about this series is its something about talking polar bears and killing god. How far off is that?
>>216973288I only watched this for Lucy because I was a fan of the first 2 films
>>216973288My Bible teacher was butthurt about this, never watched it.Yes I went to a religious school.
>>216973622isn't it explicitly the atheist narnia or some shit idk
>>216973288You reminded me of confused Matthew
>>216973622They were told it was about "killing God" and believed it without reading it for themselves>>216973623The villain at the end is really an angel pretending to be God, and admits that he knows God exists.
>>216973288DON'T SEARCH HOW THE LITTLE GIRL LOOKS NOW!
>>216973655Idk, I just remember this movie and Harry Potter were two films that christians were deadset on not letting their children see
>>216973288I don't worship a dead Jew on a stick, sorry
>>216973820harry potter opposition lasted all of two minutes, but nobody ever came around on golden compass, so i assume it either was actually antagonistic or it sucked so nobody cared
No shit. Pullman literally said he wrote His Dark Materials to be an atheist Lord of the Rings. It falls far short of Tolkien of course and even atheists prefer Middle-earth over Pullman's slop.
>>216973567The movie Dirigible
>>216973687It sounds harmless, but it's actually baby's first gnosticism which is just as bad.
>>216973843> dead kike on a stickLets ponder this for a moment:> DeadOur Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is not dead. He died upon the cross, but then rose again three days later and now resides in the Kingdom of Heaven. This is the basis for Christianity. He is a Living God.> kikeJesus Christ was of Nazareth. A people described as having fair skin whiter than milk, a rosy blush, blond hair, and blue eyes as was Jesus Himself by four separate people who met Him personally. What we know as the modern "jew" are in fact the conquored Edomite tribe taken in by Judah, and are not of Israel.In addition, the term "kike" comes from these so called "Edomite jews", who when passing through Ellis Island on their way to subvert America refused to sign their names with an X as they viewed it as too similar to a cross, and signed with an O, or a "kikel" instead. In this way a "kike" is someone who rejects and hates our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and as such He could never be considered one as the term is antithetical to His entire identity.> A stickThe crucifix weighed approximately 132.277 pounds and was carried by Jesus Christ for over six hours through the desert after being beaten for hours to a point of "half-death" in which "his face was so disfigured He seemed hardly human, and from His appearance, one would scarcely know He was a man." only to be crucified and suffer for more than six hours pierced to the crucifix a death that is a combination of physically being crushed/skewered but also simulates drowning. All of this did our Lord and Savior endure for our Salvation. A far cry from a mere "stick."All this to say, that those who use such a disgusting and blasphemous phrase not only do not know Jesus Christ, but could not possibly be describing Him.
>>216973987All Abrahamism is bad.
>>216973288Pro-tip: if you read your post out loud and feel pressure in the back of your nose more than once, then you should revise so that you don’t sound like a sperging grandma. In OP’s case there are no less than three “back of the nose” moments: “blasphemous nonsense” (the first syllable of each word) and “feel shame” (the first syllable of “shame”).Here is what OP should have said:>This is trash. Much better.
>>216974028There's no such thing as "Abrahamism." There is simply Christianity and Heathenism.
>>216973906They are fun readings for a kid. Lyra was my first crush. But yea, as literally works they are far beneath Tolkien and Lewis. Not to mention that the whole daemon thing is so poorly explained it raises many questions.
>>216974048> The Party created "Newspeak" to prevent the people from thinking any "illegal" thoughts. If they do not have any words to describe how they think or feel, they cannot commit any "thoughtcrimes."DON'T USE WORDS, GOY! IT WILL HURT YOUR NOSE!!!!!
DAS RIIGHT
>>216974121t. ESL who misunderstood Orwell
>>216973820I've come to the conclusion potter spergouts were actually Americans mixing up their religion with their nationalism and having a bit of a breakdown that something foreign was relevant for a change.
>>216973288>books = kino>2007 movie = trash>bbc/hbo series = somehow worse
>NOOO YOU OFFENDED MY JEWISH FAIRYTALES
>>216973288It reminds me of just how obnoxious the religious right was in the Bush era, and how they haven't changed one bit now that they're back in the spotlight.
>>216973609Yeah yeah it was pretty crappy
>>216973288this girls talents were allowed to go to waste because of the backlash of this movie.gd shame i tell you
>>216974722she never got them outbitch
>>216976011she mummy now
>>216973622The books have very explicit anti-religion(specifically Catholicism) themes but the movie doesn't really get there
>>216974016>Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is not deadYes, that rat is dead. You can pretend and imagine as much as you want but it won't change reality >the term "kike" comes from these so called "Edomite jews", who when passing through Ellis Island on their way to subvert America refused to sign their names with an X as they viewed it as too similar to a cross, and signed with an O,Can you show a single document signed with a circle? Or a newspaper article from the time describing the practice? Anything at all that would support this ridiculous story?
>>216976880
>>216977013silly post
>>216977099Yeah, don't have any response just call it "silly"
>>216976938wouldn't Protestants be in favor of it then?
>>216974163Is the HBO show version of this worth watching?
>>216973687>They were told it was about "killing God" and believed it without reading it for themselvesI mean... where is the lie? Have you seen what Phillip Pullman thinks about Christians?If he's consistent then I'm sure he doesn't want their money.
>>216977168Why would they be in favor of something with explicit anti-religion themes?
>>216973288I remember being very impressed by the CGI and general art design of the movie. Shame it bombed so badly that it killed the studio. I would have liked to have seen the other two books in that style.
>>216977168The difference between Catholics and Protestants is that Catholics will show you compassion even if you disagree completely with their stated values while Protestants will chimp out at you like the animal retards they are even if you agree completely with their stated values. Go watch the “starving baby” video series if you don’t believe me. Every faith group, even mudslimes and Hindus, will provide baby formula to a starving baby except Protestants. They are true subhumans who reject all signs of civilization in favor of erecting low blocky shacks in rural backwoods for their apish “churches”. I, a fedora, would gladly ally with the papists to dismantle the Protestant virus in America if I only could.
>>216977338this isn't true btw
>>216976880that's honestly ridiculous
>>216977338>Protestants will chimp out at you like the animal retards they are even if you agree completely with their stated values. lmao
>>216977188no it's slop
>>216977326it was an awful story.
>>216977347>>216977362Hey, I’ve got a newborn baby who hasn’t eaten in about 24 hours. I was wondering if you had any baby formula your church could give me?Sorry, your charity “program” is only for paid subscription holders? I mean, members of the congregation?
>>216974016>A people described as having fair skin whiter than milk, a rosy blush, blond hair, and blue eyesI like how there’s somehow a gap of this phenotype between Israel and fucking Sweden. Who believes in this retarded shit?
Funny how nobody ever complain about Pratchett being anti-religious.
>>216977588Pratchett is already reddit enough without that detail.
>>216977483I think burgers really can’t conceptualize that Jerusalem despite being Mediterranean is nowhere fucking near Europe. The idea that there was just somehow a little tribe of goddamn Pleiadians nestled between Turkey and Egypt is asinine.
I remember when atheists were convinced this would be bigger than LOTR.
>>216977416Never had this happen once when I was poor and visited Methodist, Baptist, etc. foodbanks as a kid. Your made up story isn't any more relevant than my personal anecdote. But they have data for charity contributions based on political party lines and Republicans (who are by and large protestant) donate more to charity and favor local charities like feeding the poor.
>>216977802Really? Source?Even the Narnia movies were bigger than The Golden Compass
>>216977416you fell for propaganda
>>216974028Lol pagan Romans adopted religions and cults based on what was fashionable at the time. They had almost no true religious convictions (but extremely strong social convictions and taboos), and most of what was built was built for the glory of an Emperor rather than truly believing in what they said. The Roman Republic and early Empire rose to glory because of their absolute mastery of warfare and subjugation/ integration of new territory. Not because of JVPITERIt is why it was so baffling that Christians were willing to die for their religion when they started persecuting them.
>>216977762>I think burgers really can’t conceptualize that Jerusalem despite being Mediterranean is nowhere fucking near Europe......it is, Athens is just 1,200 km away from Jerusalem.
>>216974199It was megachurch Prots that heard they called female wizards Witches in the series and ran with it. It got so popular though that they never stood a chance.
>>216977928You pray to a jew
>>216973288Its a great movie.Dont shit talk it.
>>216977957ogey
>>216977013NTA but it literally is just a google search away retard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KikeLearn your slur history
>>216973622Christcucks get butthurt very easily
>>216977997>People get angry and express their disapproval at someone directly insulting their religion.Imagina my shock....
>>216978042Christcucks also thought Harry Potter was literally satanism so they're also retards.
>>216978042Yeah, it's shocking that these dumbfucks acually found 4chan and now post here. Twitter tourists absolutely ruined this place.
>>216978091
>>216978104i have been here since before twitter existed thobeit
What was this movie even about and why was it seen as anti religious?
>>216976938They are not anti religious, they are anti organized religion. They dont destroy heaven, they just replace the kingdom of heaven with the republic of heaven. Its a fundamentally protestant work and americans were just too stupid to get it
>>216978042I made this gif almost 20 years ago, when I was in middle school. Crazy to see it still popping up every now and then lol
>>216978142On the surface level you can read it as religion bad because lyra's world has a theocratic oppresive government. But a beyond surface level is a very deeply religious work. Pullman said his greatest inspiration was paradise lost. You dont respect that work if you cant respect religion.
>>216978142There's an organization which is a direct stand-in for the Catholic Church which is thie main antagonist, the plot is the protagonists discovering that there are multiple universes, which directly contradicts the teachings of the not-Catholic Church, and the plot is them attempting to prevent people from finding out. And later in the books it's found out that God is just the first angel who lied to everyone else about him creating the world, he's contained/imprisoned in a glass cage by Michael, and he is so old that just opening the cage and letting the air touch him is enough to disintegrate him into dust.
>>216978121So it's just midlife crisis?
>>216978157>They are not anti religious, they are anti organized religion........which is to say, anti-religious......a lot of people belong to organized religions.>They dont destroy heavenThey literally turn it from a kingdom into a republic, you don't get more fedora tipping atheist than turning God's literal kingdom into an atheistic republic after detrhroning God.>Its a fundamentally protestant workLOL not even the most protestant would be okay with the idea of destroyin God's kingdom.
>>216974028>submissionYes, to God and all that is holy. To lack submission is to have unwarranted pride, which is destructive. >FearNot an abrahamic virtue. You may be confusing it with ‘respect’, which is mistranslated in the English Old Testament (KJV) as ‘fear.’ >PovertyPoverty isn’t a virtue, but casting aside worldly desires is. Are you making the argument that consooming is good now?>MercyYes, mercy is a virtue. Are you so Indian that you do not believe in using your capacity for empathy?>MeeknessSee above>AnonymitySee above about pride. All the good that you can do is because God allows you to do it & gave you the capacity to do it. >ShameLook me in the eye and tell me that the opposite of shame (the Pride movement) has done good in the world. >ForgivenessYes, forgiveness is good. We all make mistakes. >Martyr The word you are looking for is ‘martyrdom’, Indian confirmed. Some things are worth dying for. >CastrationNot a virtue. Do you even understand the basic tenets of any abrahamic religion?
>>216978206what is?
>>216978183>Pullman said his greatest inspiration was paradise lost.It wasn't so much an "Inspiration" as a direct response to Paradise Lost and the Chronicles of Narnia. The name of the trilogy "His Dark Materials" is a referrence to Paradise Lost.> You dont respect that work if you cant respect religion.Pullman has explicitly said that he despises both of those books, Narnia moreso because of the whole problem with Susan.
>>216974028And yet the one on the right brutalized the one on the left, pajeet
>>216977989
>>216977928>Lol pagan Romans adopted religions and cults based on what was fashionable at the time. They had almost no true religious convictionsAbsolute braindead take
>>216978261Why does God allow devout Christians to die slow, painful, humiliating deaths of things like rectal cancer or dementia
>>216978302Susan was a whore who wore makeup and that damned her for eternity
>>216978353Are you suggesting that devotion to God is somewhat transactional for good health? Worshipping God is just an inherently morally good thing to do, regardless of whether or not it favors you.
Why does Christianity make brown people seethe so hard?
>>216978353much to be learned from such experiences
>>216977250because that poster said it was specifically anti-Catholic Church
>>216978394>Worshipping God is just an inherently morally good thing to doWhy
>>216978403Christianity is mostly brown ppl dedu
>>216978385That's the atheist bad faith interpretation of the text. Although I'll do concede that Lewis' writing quality only goes down from the first book onwards and should have written better what he intended with Susan.
>>216978416It just is, like helping the poor.
>>216978416axiomatic
>>216978423?? It says in the text that Susan cant come back to Narnia because she spent her time focused on boys and wearing makeup
>>216978403The vast majority of Christians are black or latino
>>216978353There are dozens of readily available answers on google by saints and scholars much more capable than I am, but I will give you my two cents: God’s perspective is grander than ours. I believe that God sanctifies whatever hardship we endure to be for our benefit or someone else’s. He makes the juice worth the squeeze.
>>216978444you should reread the precise text, your memory of it is bad
>>216978436Or slaughtering hostile tribes, including women and children, right?
>>216978474no
>>216978444No, those were just the outwards expressions of the real problem. The real problem was her mentality, she had basically lost faith in God and had become a materialist athiest focusing only on vain earthly pleasures like makeup and hookups, even to the point of out right making herself forget Narnia and Aslan (Jesus) were real and saying that they were just silly kids' games, even though she had been there and directly met Aslan.
>>216978467Thats the literal text. Sorry slut, but no heaven for whores
>>216978444iirc it said she currently couldn't because she lost faith and got distracted with boys and make-up but also implies she could find Jesus's Fursona again in her heart or w/e so she's not like eternally damned
>>216978509it's not tho
>>216978394>Worshipping God is just an inherently morally good thing to doPeak religious bullshit >>216978409Yes, dumbass, specifically Catholicism but generally anti-religion.
>>216978474Yes.
>>216978507>actuhalllyNo. Susan was a slut. Sluts are outside Gods Grace.
>>216978436But helping the poor has clear tangible benefits. Like a couple years ago, a homeless guyt tried breaking into my car. If he had a roof over his head maybe he wouldn't have done that. >>216978464But he's omnipotent and omniscient. Couldn't he just make everyone not suffer?
>>216978516morals are exclusively a religious concept, I'm not sure why you're so shocked by the idea that they'd serve as axiomatic foundations
>>216978403What did he mean by this?
>>216978525I mean yeah sure she was, but it's much deeper than that.>>216978527>But helping the poor has clear tangible benefits.Are you saying you wouldn't do it if it didn't benefit you? Grim.
>>216978527He could, yeah, presumably there are better things to teach with life than a lack of suffering
>>216978515Hellbound!
>>216978527>Couldn't he just make everyone not suffer?Suffering is necessary for virtue to arise.
Pullman is a gigantic faggot that seems like he was mad he was made to go to church on Sundays His whole republic of Heaven blog reads like the worst r/atheism post of all time
>>216978543No. Its quite literal. Sex wanters/havers are CAST OUT FROM THE LORDS GRACE.
>>216978527>If he had a roof over his head maybe he wouldn't have done thatNo, retard, if he wasn't like that he would have a roof over his head. Like a scum defending idiot you're looking at it from the wrong direction >Couldn't he just make everyone not suffer?But how can we know what good is without bad?(Yes, this is the actual answer religious "people" try)
>>216978564>His whole republic of Heaven blog reads like the worst r/atheism post of all timeLink? I want to see the mega cringe.
>>216978573>Sex wanters/haversGod's first command to Adam and Eve after creating them is to be fruitful and multiply. What the fuck are you, an incel?
>>216978535>morals are exclusively a religious conceptMorals are my own arbitrary opinions and if enough people agree with me then we can force it on the collective. Cope and seethe.
>>216978603Finally an honest atheist. A rare sight.
>>216978535What a strange lieMorals cannot exist within religion. True morality can only be come to through pure logic. Religious "morality" is whatever a priest says. Is it moral to strap a newborn down and cut his dick? Logic tells us no that's an awful thing to do but religion might say otherwise
>>216978603you should have some other word for that, but regardless i don't think it changes my point to call it ethics or whatever
>>216978593Aslan never said that.
>>216978627logic immediately runs into the is/ought divide, this is like phil 101
>>216978580https://www.hbook.com/story/the-republic-of-heavenMy favorite part is how he says Tolkien isn't a good representation of the human virtue because he doesn't write about sex >Part of the connection which a republican story has to have with our lives — a very important part — is psychological. That’s why Wagner’s Ring is a republican work of art, and Tolkien’s isn’t. Wagner’s gods and heroes are exactly like human beings, on a grand scale: every human virtue and every human temptation is there. Tolkien leaves a good half of them out. No one in Middle-earth has any sexual relations at all; how children arrive must be a complete mystery to them.
>>216978653
Is the movie any good?
>>216978683Watch it a decide for yourself.
I was in 6th grade at a religious school when this movie came out and it was a mini controversy for a bit but once the twilight books came out everyone was into that and no one talked about golden compass again
>>216978653He’s absolutely correct in that critique of Tolkien and so is Martin. I’m sick of treating Tolkien as beyond criticism because he’s HECKIN BASED AND REDPILLED.
>>216978714no he isn't
>>216978698
>>216978714No he isn't Tolkien isn't beyond criticism but him not including sex and gore is fine. It was a kids story at the end of the day. (LOTR less so but the Hobbit for sure). Its fucked that Pullman is trying to write about how the "republic" of Heaven should be a guiding light for kids vs Christianity, and his whole basis is that indulging in the physical world (especially his focus on sex?) is the best thing you can do. Also to be fair to GRRM, that quote is often taken out of context. Martin loves Tolkien, he was explaining how he didn't want to just write another Lord of the Rings, and wanted to explore more of the dirty parts of the genre. It wasn't criticizing Tolkien for excluding it.
>>216978786>please tell me what to think about movies I don't want to watch because I'm a retarded zoomer with a 5 second attention span.
>>216973288Asriel waging war on God was pretty kino.
>>216979135For me its the Xenoblade style>Chapter one: kill Crab lv1>Chapter final: Kill god (actually demiurge) lv 60>Postgame: Kill crab nicholson, the ass fucker Lv 150
>>216977383What was so bad about it?
>>216976938I loved these books when I was a kid and didn't even notice any anti-religion propaganda, but I never read the last one. I'm also a devout Catholic. Also, I actually just started reading the first book again and they say in the beginning that John Calvin became Pope and then abolished the papacy and now the Church basically has multiple groups competing for control. So the Church in the books isn't even the Catholic Church, it's literally just Protestantism because apparently in the world of the book Protestantism wiped out Catholicism.
>>216973288This movie was such a disappointment. They didn't even have the balls to kill the kid at the end.The recent show had some issues but it was a way better adaptation.
>>216979593>John Calvin became Pope
>>216979593Golden Compass is somewhat anti-religious, it's pretty obviously anti-church. Subtle Knife is where it gets explicitly anti-religious and starts talking about how bad God is. Then in Amber Spyglass they literally wage war on and kill God.I think you were just not paying attention because you were a kid. I can relate though because I read through all the (main) Left Behind books and I treated them like science fiction.
>>216979694Yeah it's retarded, it shows how poorly Pullman understood what he was criticizing
>>216976880This has to be edited right?
>>216978653He is right that sex is part of the human condition, but all stories have to omit elements of human life in order to have an actual plot. That's what context is, selective omission.There could have been more romance but that would have required having actual female characters.
>>216978683Just watch the TV show if you're interested, it actually adapts everything. It's still kinda halfhearted about criticizing religion (vs the book) but it's not as sanitized as the movie.
>>216979699They're not exactly killing God though. They're killing an imposter God who is actually the 2nd in command to the strongest angel. And the angels are former humans that ascended or something.So it's more like killing Q because he's sending every human to a hell he created instead of letting them reincarnate.
>>216979791kys faggot, the show is garbage
>>216979801>And the angels are former humans that ascended or something.So...........Mormonism?
>>216973288You should feel shame for sucking cock by choice but here we are.
>>216979699Yeah I probably didn't understand, or just didn't think any of it was meant to apply to reality. To me it was just a fantasy world totally different from ours, so in my mind it was like "I guess in their world, their Church is evil" or whatever. But I was also a lot more focused on the fun stuff like daemons and dust and whatnot.
>>216977338It's crazy how similar burger Protestants are to Wahhabists
>>216974110>literally works
>>216979801No they kill God AND his second-in-command (Metatron) who's now in charge of Heaven.God is so old that he has to be kept in a sealed container to keep him alive, Will kills him (on accident) by breaking it open with his knife and exposing him to the atmosphere.Metatron gets killed by Asriel and Mrs. Coulter.God was by all rights a lying asshole though according to the rebelling angels. He wasn't the creator, he was just the first of the angels who told everyone he was the creator. There's no actual sentient creator in the books, it's all Dust and shit.
Why does everyone on this board know practicing christians ?I'm a latinx and not even I do, are americans truly devolved to african level?
>>21697989899% of them are LARPing.
>>216979801>They're not exactly killing God though. They're killing an imposter God who is actually the 2nd in command to the strongest angel. And the angels are former humans that ascended or somethingSee this is why I think it's silly for people to say it's an anti-Christian story, it's literally a completely different reality than ours. It's sort of like the show Supernatural which made "God" just one supernatural being among many, and he wasn't even the strongest, and he had a sister, etc. These stories are making up alternate realities, so you can't just sloppily apply plot points to our reality and then complain about it.
>>216979873That's basically what I was saying. "God" is an imposter and always was, and he's so decrepit he's basically a figurehead for Metatron, the real last boss they're trying to kill.
>>216977338Honestly true.>>216979837Not a coincidence they're geopolitical allies.
>>216979898Some people on this board ARE practicing Christians, myself included. I know I shouldn't be coming to this website because it's full of degeneracy, but I was coming here for years before I became Christian and it's hard to stop because I feel more at home here than in any other online community, which I know is pathetic but it is what it is.
>>216979910Its fascinating to me that americans larp that being religious is "white" or tradIn latin america being religious is some cleaning lady shit like only the brownest yalitza aparicio looking injun niggers talk about god and in Europe its nearly the same only immigrants from Africa take religion seriously All my life I related being religious with being brown, poor and degenerate
>>216979910people keep saying this but i don't think it's true
>>216979932sure but the author is literally a reddit atheist. that's not a slur, it's the descriptive truth. these plot elements are not some detached hypothetical, they are distinctly motivated
>>216980015>in my third world shithole...Nobody cares.And yes, Europe is now a third world shithole too.
>>216979997How brown are you from 1 to 10 ?
>>216980015that's too bad for you
>>216980057I'm almost entirely German with a bit of French.You're clearly the brown one here.
>>216980054You claim that christianity is a white people thing but the vast majority of white people are non religious if not straight up agnosticYou should care, something really wrong happened in the USA
>>216980099>You claim that christianity is a white people thingNo I didn't, retard.>but the vast majority of white people are non religious if not straight up agnosticI don't care, retard.>You should care, something really wrong happened in the USAAgreed, retard.
>>216979953I mean saying God is fake and a liar is pretty anti-religious. Being able to even kill God in the first place requires depowering him. And it also follows the philosophical definition of killing God, God is a useless frail old man who withers in the face of the natural world. Very on-the-nose metaphor.>>216979932Weird post. Have you not researched the author's opinion on this? Philip Pullman is pretty openly anti-Christian. He's literally said>I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief.You're allowed to like media that fundamentally disagrees with you.
>>216980091Funny because the majority of French and German people are non religious, in fact the % of people that claim religion is important to them correlates uncannily with the % of blacks and browns You have more in common with pajeets than with real whites
>>216979898My entire family is christian except me.My grandfather was a pastor and so is my brother's wife.They're all balls deep in the church.
>>216980159>He's literally said >>I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief. Well then he's a retard who did a really shitty job at it. He may have been trying to create an anti-Christian story, but he failed miserably.
>>216979510off the top of my head:>a very, very boring first act where James Bond gives speeches about portals or something at Oxford and then fucks off for the rest of the movie and I don't think this ever comes into play in the story >very very boring scenes with evil stepmom Nicole Kidman being a passive aggressive, but then she fucks off and does nothing. I think she's standing around in the background at the very end of the film.>little girl gets the titular Golden Compass somehow (I think the "Gyptian" gave it to her?) and proceeds to do fuck all with it >polar bear was cool but had nothing at all to do with the story. I think he was a drunk and the little girl was like "why don't you sober up and take your armor back?" and he's like "oh yeah! That's a great idea!" and does it immediately. >then there was a big dumb climax with the daemon separating machine that looked like a cheap set, and the big dumb CGI action scene with a bunch of non-characters. The whole thing just felt so thrown together. Like it spent more time explaining stuff to the audience than it did telling an actual story. Or like it was too busy setting up things for a sequel that it forgot to have an interesting first installment. I don't know. Maybe Nicole Kidman would have had some really cool moments in the sequels, but we'll never know. It's not like it's that difficult to tell a good story. Just have some likable characters and follow the hero's journey. This one felt like it was just copying Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and Narnia.
>>216980167>being this obsessed with white peopleIt's so embarrassing to be brown holy shit like get a life bro go play soccer and eat some rice
>>216980015It's frankly embarassing as fuck to have someone in your workplace or friend circle that's religious. Everybody has to walk on fucking eggshells to avoid saying ANYTHING about ANYTHING because it'll offend their idiotic ideology based on medieval level of knowledge about the world. It makes these fucking people worse than astrology retards. Like what the fuck century are you living in that you think easily explained scientific priinciples are the result of ghosts and demons and fairies and spirits that all change the world based on your pathetic human desires. Oh I so BLESSED because Jayden and Brayden got A's. Bitch your doomed offspring got A's because they fucking studied, congratulate them not a dead arabic god from a culture that suicided itself on that ideology from the ass end of the earth in the bronze age. This level of stupidity and superstition is only considered acceptable among those very own people, who in our country have landed ass first in control of the government bc our opposition party lost its fucking mind and let a senile old goat run it into the ground. So now we all have to let them shut all our national and global sciences down, send all our smartest fucking researchers and academics moving to europe and asia, shut down all the fucking meteorological & atmospheric work that air traffic and our military relied on bc christfags don't believe in it, and plunge the country into stupidity and backwardness that'd take another century to repair.Americans are europe's wild west frontier, and Russia is Europes eastern frontier. Both are full of an ugly mix of ambitious & brilliant and the catastrophically fucking ignorant, and the only thing they have in common is aggression, violence, selfishness, pride, greed sloth envy etc. The worst traits of humanity aka the seven deadly sins, that's what makes our economy and culture work. And both frontiers are long overdue to destroy each other. Shouldn't be long now.
>>216980243I'm really happy for you, or sorry that happened
>>216980225I'm white than you'll ever be goy cattle
>>216980289Okay pajeet
>>216973288for me? it's Nicole Kidman beating a dude to death Monkey Style that i haven't found on Youtube (yet)
>>216980266lol
>>216978204>God is just the first angel who lied to everyone else about him creating the worlddid he admit to it? otherwise how could we know it to be a lie?
>>216978204I seriously don't get why people see this as anti-religion. Do you think Pullman is saying that the Christian God is actually just an old man angel who was lying? Clearly not. So then how is it a commentary on Christianity at all? It's just presenting a fantasy world with stuff that doesn't even exist in our world, and telling a story in that world. "God" in that world refers to a completely different entity than what "God" in our world refers to. Same with "angels", "the Magisterium", etc. He's using words that we know, but they're referring to completely different things that don't even exist in our world. If I created a fictional world where there was an anthropomorphic carrot who raped people, would you think that I was spreading anti-carrot propaganda? If I named the carrot rapist "Buddah" would you think it was anti-Buddhism because I was obviously saying that the real Buddha was a carrot who raped people?
>>216980593Ok retard, what would actually constitute an anti-Christianity story then?
>>216980646The Davinci Code
>>216977125you're not worth the effort, sorry bud
>>216980646A story which asserts that actual Christianity in our own reality is either evil or false.
>>216980665How is that anti-Christian? The story indirectly confirms that Jesus had real miraculous powers. It's definitely anti-Catholic, but it doesn't denounce Christianity completely.
>>216977944Ever seen the average Greek? Famously non-nordic looking.
>>216979898I don't usually watch American television, but my wife got me watching Squid Game: The Challenge with her and it's just baffling how half the participants are praying all the time, thanking God and Jesus everytime anything happens in the competitiontruly bizarre to non American viewers
>>216980701>It's definitely anti-Catholic, but it doesn't denounce Christianity completely.The Catholic Church *is* Christianity. Everything else is heresy. So anything that's anti-Catholic is anti-Christian.
>>216980737You don't know that there's a huge Christian influence in South Korea?
>>216980753Ok p*pist.
>>216980737Why do atheists keep acting as if they're not the odd ones out and not religious people? My guy, if you don't thank a certain God if something good happens you, YOU are the weird one.
>>216979750No
>>216978179You did good, anon.
>>216973288>I lift... HEAVY OBJECTSI busted up laughing in the theater watching a cgi polar bear deliver this line and I'm not sure why
>>216973987>baby first's gnosticism This, it literally is. I liked it but i never understood why christians were so against it.
>>216980754I'm talking about the American spinoff gameshow
>>216980799Because atheists are the most retarded and irrational people on earth. >our consciousness is an illusion created by meat>the entire universe just magically exists without explanation>good and evil don't exist so that there's no objective ethical difference between feeding a starving child or raping them I could go on with more idiotic bullshit that atheists believe, but I'm losing brain cells just talking about it.
>>216973288Nah, your religion isn't real so I don't.
>>216973288>CRASHING THIS HOT AIR BALLOON
>>216973622Like all evangelical monotheists, christcucks want to destroy all other religions, but get butthurt when theirs is criticized
>>216978653>likes Wagneroy vey isn't that a bit antisemitic?
>>216980015>All my life I related being religious with being brown, poor and degeneratethat's jewish indoctrination working on you good job
>>216977013> Can you show a single document signed with a circle? Or a newspaper article from the time describing the practice? Anything at all that would support this ridiculous story?We've rent come full circle (kek) White people have been saying it's made up so jews can cry about being oppressed and they're the ones who concocted the "ridiculous story" in the first place. >>216974183Really?>>216977483There are native White tribes still living in the middle east to this day
>>216981334>There are native White tribes still living in the middle east to this dayIf by white you mean European then you're wrong. None of them clusters with Europeans, let alone with North Europeans. Language doesn't mean much. Armenians are Middle Eastern Caucasians despite speaking an Indo-European language.
>>216973288Gerwig is casting Daniel Craig again in Magician's Nephew
>>216973288I read the first book in school and then the movie came out... Book was better, especially the Iorek part & his fight with the bear King. Absolute Kino.
>>216974016King. Thank you brother. Those Anti-Christs will burn in hell>>216977013Especially (you)
>>216981382>Armenians are Middle Eastern Caucasians despite speaking an Indo-European language.some Greeks or proto-Greeks settled in the Caucasus.
>>216976880Damn are those real?
>>216976880And people wonder why some prefer pre-bob version.
>>216977588He's at least trying to make it all into a joke. Pullman is straight up hostile.
>>216977338>Catholics will show you compassion even if you disagree completely with their stated values while Protestants will chimp out at you like the animal retards they are even if you agree completely with their stated values.I like how the absolute irony of this sentence goes so completely over your head. Bless your heart.
>>216977416You unironically fell for fake news. The churches that "refused" offered the food at the premises instead of just handing out cash when asked and this was presented as refusing to help a starving baby.
>>216977347in my experience catholics are by far the judgiest bunchbaptists are the most no fun allowed when in a group settingevangelicals are the nuttiest
>>216979898the main 4chan demographic is the gen where as a kid you were typically taken to church early in life but that fell off either as a teenager or an adult. pretty much everyone has some exposure to christianity in that regardgen alpha is the first gen where most of their parents didn't even bother pretending by taking them to churchand of course this doesn't take into account actual christians still browsing, nor the larping tradfags
>>216976880Two reasons I like the Golden Compass
>>216973711She’s probably old now.
>>216981000Because gnosticism basically disregards all of the jewish elements of Christianity by outright claiming the jewish god is a lesser, evil deity who is also autistic and Jesus is an aspect of the One True God... And all the Christians who have been buckbroken by Judaism are automatically repelled.
>>216974016The writings that describe Christ are fake. There is no Letter of Pontious Pilate.
>>216977338Uhh, who was burning who again?
>>216973906“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”― J.R.R. Tolkien >>216974028The left can't meme>>216974221Look how much better and rational America has gotten. >>216978091>ChristcucksHow's the weather in tel aviv?
>>216977993>According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word may be an alteration of the endings -ki or -ky common in the personal names of Jews in eastern Europe who immigrated to the United States in the early 20th century.[2] A variation or expansion of this theory published in Our Crowd (1967), by Stephen Birmingham, postulates that the term "kike" was coined as a put-down by the assimilated U.S. Jews from Germany to identify eastern European and Russian Jews: "Because many Russian [Jewish] names ended in 'ki', they were called 'kikes'—a German Jewish contribution to the American vernacular. The name then proceeded to be co-opted by non-Jews as it gained prominence in its usage in society, and was later used as a general derogatory slur.">The Encyclopedia of Swearing suggests that Leo Rosten's suggestion(the Ellis Island etymology) is the most likely.Who are you going to trust? The OED or some Jew making shit up?Notice how NOBODY pushing this idea can provide ANYTHING to back it up? I just ask for ONE document signed with a circle or one newspaper article describing the practice and they just get defensive. If it was so common as to lead to a slur then there must be surviving examples so where are they?
>>216984936>anyone who doesn't worship the Jew must be one!Fuck off >>216984974And y'know I'd be willing to accept the Ellis Island etymology if there was anything backing it up. It isn't like it's an ancient story, it's a story about people signing documents a certain way very recently then there must be some such document but I've yet to see any
>>216973622Because they’re delusional degenerates who want to destroy art
His Dark Materiald remains the best young adult fantasy series ever written.Probably better than LotR if I am to be honest.
>>216973288it was kino
>>216980593>If I named the carrot rapist "Buddah" would you think it was anti-BuddhismYes. You obviously invite the association.
>>216973288No one watched this.
>>216978535you dense motherfucker. next you're going to gatekeep empathy.
>>216977928>Not because of JVPITERIndeed, Romans thought they won over their enemies because their enemies' gods chose them! The gods chose Rome.
>>216978338Nigger the Roman pantheon is just a latinized Greek pantheon. They added dead Emperors to the list of gods as a means of propaganda and everyone went along with it. When Hadrian's twink died, everyone bought into his cult because it gained favor with the Emperor.The early Republic sure had convictions and followed their gods. But by the time of Augustus that virtue was gone. All of the East had bought into mysticism and whatever cool cult was selling the latest fad. They were very superstitious, sure, but no one was dying for their religion unless it was in war for glory. Christians come along and won't worship the Emperors, so they start killing them, which is so foreign to the Romans that MORE convert because there must be something special about their religion if they are dying for it. Jews at the time would even cut deals regarding the emperor worship to avoid death.I love Rome and the Romans and think they are the greatest contributors to Western Civilization. But they did not stand on business when it came to religious conviction.
>>216986011stfu, if it wasnt for Constantine's Vision, the roman empire wouldnt matter at all
>>216973288Schizo no fun christcuckery.
>>216973906>even atheists prefer Middle-earth over Pullman's slop.Speak for yourself.Everyone outgrows Lord of the Rings except to escape to and bask in the idyllic fancies of pastoral Hobbiton that are meant to represent a glorified England that never really existed.Pullman's work like Dante's and Milton's stays with you for the rest of your life.His Dark Materials is ultimately the more mature story.
>>216974016>his death is so important but he's actually not deadThe King of Nepo babies had a few bad days and now gets to spend eternity in all inclusive resort name "Heaven." Oh.... how terrible, the absolute horror. Humans all across history dying and suffering for thousands of years in the world YOU CREATED now have to feel bad that the person ultimately responsible for everything kind of had a bad time for a little bit. Fuck off with this jewish kapparot "transfer your sins onto a chicken" bullshit.
>>216978183Yup Pullman is anti-organized religion, but pro-spirituality as most high IQ and rational minds are.
>>216986693just say youre a hedonist that worships himself, youd sound less ignorant
>>216973288there was so much sexual tension between the mother and daughter
>>216986742In order to be a hedonist you have to have abundance in the first place and there's no one with more than organized religions like the Catholic church or the Evangelical preachers of America.This is the kind of people you're endorsing:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LtF34MrsfI&t=194
>>216973288>didn't have the balls to show Lyra's friend getting killed by her dad to open up a pathway between dimensionsboooooooo
>>216978183>You dont respect that work if you cant respect religion.That book is loved by midwit atheists who self-insert as Satan.
>>216986693>anti-organized religion, but pro-spirituality as most high IQ and rational minds are.the only people who say this are libtards that think spirituality means letting fags be gay and troons be troons. They don’t have any actual spirituality besides worldly pleasure.
>>216973622Anon they thought Harry Potter and Pokemon were evil too. They're crazy.
>>216973288>never heard about the books>the book is called His Dark Materialsthe hell kind of name is that? isnt this just Narnia with polar bears?
>>216973622The villains are high-church mormon-evangelicals in the style of Handmaids Tale that rebel against the nanobot angels.
>>216987212Sexual orientation or body dysmorphia has nothing to do with religion or spirituality in the first place, organized or otherwise.The fact you even bring it up as a point shows your soul has been poisoned.Spirituality is meant to be a metaphysical balm. A spiritual person would not embrace ideologies that have nothing to do with it, but help the people undergoing mental dissonance or discord to achieve harmony.
>>216987316I agree it doesn’t, my point is though that this idea of spirituality without religion is often just pushed by American liberals who deep down really only care about worldly pleasures and no sort of spiritual penance. The idea of any kind of metaphysical is so foreign because they rely simply on what is in front of them, and nothing more. Maybe that’s not you though, and for that I apologize.
