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so they are setting up to give him a "redemption arc" in the next movie,right ?
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>>216977895
if you pay very close attention you might notice Quaritch has always been the protagonist, and the only relatable character.
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>>216977895
People dont watch these, right?
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Yes. And it has the potential to be incredibly satisfying.
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>>216977895
Quaritch is basically St. Paul the Apostle.
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>>216977987
yeah, theyre great
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who cares???
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>>216977895
Who knows. Barely anything substantial has happened with him in two movies. His new gf probably likes the RDA more than he does
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>>216977963
It's because the cat people are fucking faggots and weird. They seemingly have little goals other than fucking around living in harmony. Quadrich at least strives for something.

>>216977895
No, he's just more dangerous that he's adapting and starting to use their tactics and tribes.
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>>216977895
He's going to save all the RDA soldiers blue wives and 5 fingered children
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Unlkely. He dies at the end of 3.
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>>216978069
they really do recycle the same beats in every film huh
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>>216977895
>when he sacrifices himself in the fifth movie to put the final stop on the RDA so Jake can commune with Gaia and establish peace on Earth
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Who fucking cares
No one actually watches these movies
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>>216978069
he's obviously not dead
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>>216978010
Agreed. They're amazing.
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>>216978069
Canon video game confirms he doesn't
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>>216978069
If there ain't no body, then there ain't nobody dead.
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>>216977987
>>216978108
2 billies, keep coping
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>>216978108
I do :D
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>>216978099
kiri is gonna be the eywa emissary to earth, jake's probably dead at that point
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>>216977895
He literally didn't do anything wrong
He has more compassion than the hecking "good" protagonists
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he carries all 3 movies so hard
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If anyone has ever been to Disney World, then you’ll know that the ride there takes place at the end of the timeline where humans and Na’vi find some sort of mutual agreement and aren’t at war anymore. Don’t know if they’ll stick with that endgame but I’d imagine that’s where it’s still headed.
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>>216978076
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
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the tree is an eldritch monstrosity created by another alien empire to make sure that no other species actually advance in society by hijacking and being a parasite to every single organism on the planet. Humans never received such a target but jake will make sure Earth gets sent spores which will then create its own tree and "force" humanity to abandon technology entirely, destroying them entirely.

also the 'ancient alien empire' that did that were humans and the navi were also once humans who colonized pandora but were mutated by such a tree.

screenshot this fuck you james
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His last words as a Na'vi are the same as his first. That isn't an accident.
He's dead.
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>>216978596
>destroying them entirely.
Jim's not a chud so this will not happen
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>>216978637
let me rephrase that to more like humanity ends up hand holding each other and singing kumbaya, abandoning any venture for space conquest and simply living in primitive caves as was the intended purpose of the tree in the first place. Think of it like dark forest theory but rather than just blowing up the civilization, you put a permanent handicap on it forever
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>>216978619
yeah bro his deaths just gonna be awkward shot of him falling
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>>216978544
They get buried under alien gf memes but the fire tribe is easily best part of the lore, wish they had more named members and interactions with the RDA
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>>216977895
He's going to go the Vegeta route where he becomes an rival/anti-villain and then sacrifices himself to stop the p*nkskins and send em back once and for all.
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>>216977987
>People dont watch these, right?
There are a lot of Indians and Chinese
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>>216978966
>cozy 4th movie where Quaritch and Varang are crashing with Jake and Neytiri with the snow navi raising their babies
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>>216978190
Sigourney Weaver will be either dead or 90 years old at that point
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>>216978596
It's extremely telling how these people start coming up with novelty theories of how the Na'vi aren't "really" indigenous or Eywa is somehow "enslaving" them, because the Na'vi case is unassailable, so they imply that "nobody is native" or that "humans are liberators".

Nice try, chud.
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>>216978966

>he sacrifices himself to stop the bad humans from finishing their grand plan in a massive explosion
>everyone meets up for the last Eywa celebration of the saga
>they enter the "afterlife"
>Quaritch is there with the most shit eating grin of all time
>give Jake the ol Jeremiah Johnson nod
>Varang is also there hugging him (she also turned good once she connected to Eywa and her mind cleared)
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>>216979098
The na'vi are very clearly not part of the same ecosystem as the rest of the fauna on Pandora. Just look at their body plan
>but they have those neuralink things
Yes same as Spider does now
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>>216979337
Going purely off the first movie, it seems like the lemurs had a similar ancestor and two pairs of their limbs with two fingers are fusing into one pair with four fingers like the Navi.
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>>216979337
Nah.

It's clear the world went "back to monke" and the prohibition against use of metal means they had a "we're at the brink" moment and creating a self-enforcing global biological computer was the solution for them.
Cameron is not into subversions or edgy twists. Everything so far across all three movies is at face value. All the characters clearly speak their minds and explain their agendas. That's just Cameron's approach, everything is sincere and straightforward.
You can tell that he's building towards Eywa being the "correct choice" for a planetary eco-disaster and it's obvious that template will be exported to Earth as a solution. There's nothing sinister about it, it's just what Cameron believes in.
It is true however that Kiri is likely going to become Earth's Eywa. All the signs are there and we've seen Eywa has a "face".
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>>216979500
When I first saw Avatar I thought the giant ring formations were some vestige of a failed civilization. Seems like that's not the case and it's a natural formation, but it was haunting.
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>>216979535
I think all signs point to it being exactly that. Whenever we see those rings it's at the sites of those HDMI trees where they access Eywa directly. It's not a coincidence. It's likely these places in ancient times still had old architecture around them until it eroded over time and fell apart.
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>>216977999
Checked. Will Eiwa talk to him then?
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>>216977895
Don’t know. Don’t care. I don’t watch blue alien nigger movies.
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Sigourney Weaver is a bad actress.
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I don't give a FUCK about Ayywa
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>>216978076
So do navi fuck just like humans?
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>>216979500
>It's clear the world went "back to monke" and the prohibition against use of metal means they had a "we're at the brink" moment and creating a self-enforcing global biological computer was the solution for them.
Well that in itself is a big subversion. Them being space travelers themselves is hardly a step beyond. You could have it so they come from the other Alpha Centauri star, which is curiously unexplored.
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>>216979805
Yeah but Cameron is setting it up as it being a product of an act of "good". It's a solution for a problem. And it makes sense, thematically, that Pandora helped itself, it overcame the problem. And now it's going to help humanity in turn. The salvation here comes from listening and understanding someone who "went through it". Having this fix come from some unknown third party of dubious goals goes against the overall theme and message of these movies. I'm not saying it's more or less creative or better or worse, it's just not Cameron's style. He's playing this straight.
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>>216977895
yes but varang still needs to pay for what they did to my brothas, aka the wind traders, their theme song is pure KINO, I actually like how they inserted it back again after the Miley song in the end credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99AAh5Jl220&list=LL&index=3
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>>216979868
Makes sense I suppose
I at least want to see some sort of relics of the ancient high-technology Na'vi past
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>>216978076
>Didn't forget what he came there for
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>>216977895
Jake considered killing Spider
Quaritch has never considered killing Spider
Jake blames Lo'ak for getting Neteyam killed and let him know it
Quaritch never once bore a grudge for the multiple times Spider tried to get him killed
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>>216980119
The scale is all over the place with these movies. The Navi are twice as tall as humans in some shots.
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>>216978736
>but rather than just blowing up the civilization, you put a permanent handicap on it forever
Yeah, that wont work, nothing lasts forever. Entropy doesnt allow it and how are you going to claim entropy. Its illogical and retarded.
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>>216978619
Nobody's going to watch Avatar 4 just for Jake Sully and his dumb family. People want to see Qauritch and Varang.
Jimbo can't be that stupid
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>>216977895
His endgame will be sacrificing himself to save Spider, probably killing Varang when she goes full on batshit insane
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What happened to him?
His solider buddy?
The wind trader guy?
The whale scientist guy?
Carmella Soprano?
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>>216979804
No, they connect those hair thingies and it's more tranquil psychedelic like sex. Don't think there's any penetrative action
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>>216978108
I don't like these movies. I LOVE 'EM
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James Cameron is too much of a boomer to do anything interesting with this setting.
He probably thinks nuclear power is highly dangerous.
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>>216977999
>Quaritch is Paul
>Jake is Moses/Joshua
>Lo'ak is Jonah
>Kiri is Jesus
>Tuk is Metatron
>Spider is ???
Who is Spider? And why is Neytiri a whore?
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>>216980953
Thankfully, this isn't true.
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>>216980974
He is Isaac, clearly by almost getting sacrificed by his father
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>>216978069
>implying he didn't see the wounded Toruk unaware below him at the last moment
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>>216979868
>Cameron's perfect solution is the Oryx and Crake novel's hellworld "life arc" species engineered out of man that was forced by biology, superstition, and a purposefully hostile environment to never advance beyond simple tool use to the point it could also gene edit.

And you wonder why people want Colonel quaritch to kill the brutes and burn Pandora to the ground.
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>>216982936
James Cameron is a very old man influenced by the 1960s and in his mind that's the perfect happy ending for everyone
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>>216980904
fell into the water beneath the vortex, definitely survived
unlikely that he died offscreen, probably fine
irrelevant side character
base security is so shit he probably went back inside and no one knew it was him that drove the dozer
she ded lol
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>>216977987
Me and my extended family have all seen it, some of us twice.
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>>216978076
BASED
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>>216979179
That would be amazing.
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>>216977895
>Forest Gump
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>>216979804
>>216980923
Pretty sure they fuck like humans while using the hair things for even deeper connection between each other. Imagine truly becoming one with your partner while you fuck, that kinda thing.
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>>216979098
Why do I get the feeling that you would take an issue with the concept of White people being native to Europe?
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>>216977895
They should make it so the god being of Pandora is actually an eldrich monster and they have to team up to take it down.
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>>216983781
All deities are eldritch by their very nature, that word can even be applied to God Himself
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>>216983781
the god is a spore network that creates shared hallucinations, none of the Pandora lifeforms had those ponytail tentacles before it took over everything and pacified the world by regressing them to savages
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>>216980923
The na'vi dudes have dicks, see the anatomy pic somewhere ITT
So I think they stick that into the na'vi girl somehow
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>>216984166
Yeah there it is, >>216980119
Not too impressive
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>>216980329
Na'vi pussy
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>>216984166
Na'vi probably have near identical genitelia to humans ( at least in purpose if not look).

We see nipples on the males and the females also have nips( you can see some scenes were they are visible). This suggests that they have a similar in-utero development to humans and that the male and female sex is given by a specific chromosome.

Ronald's breasts have grown thanks to her pregnancy. From this and Varang's comment about how they don't suckle from the breast of weakness we can presume that na'vi babies subsist on breast milk much like Humans.

The birth scene near the end of the movie confirms that na'vi children are born by being pushed through the vaginal canal.

Something that I noticed was that the baby had no umbilical cord. Maybe it was cut off screen but it did seem weird to me since I remember na'vi having belly buttons.
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>>216984795
>Ronald's
kek
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>>216977895
They set him up for a redemption arc in the last movie and then did absolutely nothing with it whatsoever, and now we're back to where we left off in the last one. This movie was pure filler.
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>>216977987
Define people.
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>>216977895
Thanks for spoiling it for me that he doesn't die, dumbass.
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>>216985004
My bad.
> Ronal's
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>>216977987
billions do
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>>216985072
He's the main antagonist, why would he die if it's not the last movie?
Do you also think Jake might die in this one?
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>>216986103
too be fair Cameron has shown he isn't shy about a named character body count, there's a non-zero chance Jake might die in 4.
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How did Quaritch survive getting arrow'd in the first movie? I haven't watched the sequels.
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>>216986231
His memories were transferred into a recom body. He’s more like a cline than actual Quaritch.
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>>216978046
>Strives for something
For what exactly? All he has done so far in A2 and A3 is try to kill Jake and chase Na'vi tail.
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>>216986231
He didn't.
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>>216986271
To be fair, isn't that what Jake is too at the end of the day?
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>>216986310
Yes, and that's why he's based.
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>>216986330
No. Jake just moved permanently into his avatar body, Quaritch died and was cloned with a digital backup of his memories. Jake is still original Jake, recom-Quaritch is an entirely new person.
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I hope Lyle gets promoted during the time-skip, he's the only one actually doing his job
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>>216986397
>moved permanently
It's like the difference between cut-paste and copy-paste, same shit just the original gets destroyed
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>>216983628
>I can feel myself penetrating her, i can feel myself bottoming out inside her. I can feel her getting fucked BY me. She can feel my sensations of sliding inside her. She can feel me fucking her.
That's insane.
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>>216983628
>>216986520
Reminder that James Cameron played with this concept in the movie he wrote but didn't direct, Strange Days.
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>>216986415
He’s having a tough time.
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>>216979179
reddit
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>>216986520
Does sharing your partner’s sensations during sex make you gay?
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>>216978076
Eternal history of conquests
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>>216983728
Why do I get the feeling the point went over your bald head?



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