What's their best movie?
>>216986047Go back to /a/
>>216986093ghibli is western coded
>>216986122Go back tranny
>>216986047Ponyo
>>216986047
>>216986047Castle in the Sky is kino
>>216986047Spirited Away is probably their best movie
>>216986047Mononoke and PorcoI know it's not Ghibli but Miyazaki's Lupin is the most fun movie he's done
Nothing like the old school RB which these nips animated
>>216986047Whisper of The Heart
>>216986203This anon has the correct opnion objectively. The Boy and the Heron might be third. Anyone who rails against Ghibli for being tranime has no joy in their life. They are some of the best pieces of film made.
>>216986047the one with the erotic lil girl.
>>216986047All shit, unfortunately. I wanted like them because the animation is so nice, but good animation alone can’t make up for a piss poor “story”
>>216986047>nobody mentioned KikiCome on guys it's one of his best works alongside Porko & Nausicaa
Princess Mononoke is one of my top 10 of all time.Tales from Earthsea was quite solid.Howl's Moving Castle I actually thought was one of the weaker movies, but I haven't seen them all to compare.The Boy and the Heron I did not like that much, tho it was well produced and well executed.I would say Kiki's Delivery Service would be a good contender for #2.
>>216986700why is that bread so big
>tranimeGrow up.
>>216986203good tasteThese are also both in my top 3. Normie coded perhaps, but for my 3rd I'd have to pick Spirited Away>>216986624>Anyone who rails against Ghibli for being tranime has no joy in their life.objectively correct
>>216986047Porco. The pirates hard carried the entire movie
>>216986203I thought Mononoke was incredibly mid, what's supposed to be so special about it? It's not even close to being as good as Howl.
The Wind Rises is underrated kino.
totoro is one of 4 movies my kids are allowed to watch. Best kids movie ever if not best movie period
>>216987575Shame about the child nudity scene. I forgot all about it and showed that movie to my niece now it's been years later and she still remembers Totoro and asks to see it again but I don't want to get in an argument with my retarded sister about why it isn't porn.
>>216986047For me it's "Post /a/ threads on /a/ you fucking faggot"The moving tale of a jeet who can't post anywhere on 4chan except /tv/
>>216987575You didn't start with spirited away or mononoke?
>>216986047whisper of the heart and porco rosso
Fuck off to /a/
>>216987634>my niece
>>216986047All of their movies are basically the same exact thing over and over again>Muh strong female protag>Muh anti war narrative >Muh environmentalism>Muh traditionalism>muh industry is bad>Muh FLYING>Muh emotional hair>Muh son is a disappointment
>>216986165Fpbp
>>216987211It's great at character expressiveness, setting designs, and all the battle scenes. (And the little tilt-headed forest spirits. every Ghibli movie has to have funky little niggas, and Mononoke has them in spades). The themes of nature vs. industry (and colonialism, if you're a faggot) are contrived for the 90s but expressed very well visually. I think it gets a little muddled near the end but overall a solid 8/10 film
>>216988623I didn't realize that Whisper was just one big jerk-off session to John Denver - not that that's a bad thing, just surprised.
>>216986047Arrietty.
>>216986047I'll be a contrarian and say The Return of the King.
>>216988928as a big fan of little nigga stories like Small Soldiers, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Zelda and the Minish Cap, etc. Arrietty was a treat.
so many different opinions, and yet everyone agrees Howl is the worst one.everyone except me of course.
>>216986047Either Princess Mononoke or Castle in the Sky.Only old geezers rate Porco Rosso higher and Nausicaa has a truncated story
>>216988985no way, the worst one is probably Earwig, and even that just needs some editing
>>216986047Nausicaa, Only Yesterday and Totoro, rest are at least a tier below.
>>216986047And Kiki.
>>216986122>codedshut the fuck up
>>216986156I was going to say this one as well. Probably recency bias though.
>>216986047Princess Mononoke and The Tale of the Princess Kaguya are tied imo.
>>216986047Anyone who says anything other than princess mononoke is being a contrarian nigger
>>216989157Freak.
I'm gonna be a basic bitch and say Spirited Away. Shame it was made after the transition to digital though, it would've looked amazing traditionally animated.
My personal fave is Kiki. Ponyo and spirited away are probably the most visually impressive. Arietty and the one where the raccoons have huge balls are sleepers. And I princess monoke and Totoro are must sees. Honestly I think their only skip is that one that’s a bunch of vignettes about some family. >>216986165Does anyone know the origin of these tropes cause this movie, future boy Conan and Nadia blue water cover so many of the same ideas.
>>216986797Anime website, tourist.
Mononokoke
Spirited Away. It's original, creative. Lot of nice details that make it rewatchable. Howl's Castle in second for the same reasons
>>216989157Is that a dude
>>216989753yes
>>216989603No Rakesh, go back to pooping on the street.
>>216989849Discussing an anime studio on /tv/ isn't anime avatarfagging.
>>216989654Far too violet m8
It's Only Yesterday, by a solid mile. Only a fucking retard would name any Miyazaki slop.
>>216990122Yeah. But I think it's more honest than Spirited. Spirited Away has nightmare inducing imagery and then paints them as benevolent. I don't respect it as much.
>>216990191>nightmareHuh besides No face what else was there?
>>216990409When Chihiro's parents turn into pigs or when the big headed witch flies throught the sky
>>216986156>NORMAL WORDS BUT A PIG GUY
>>216990149Was that the one with the flying witch that tried to be bewitched?
>>216986047I don't know, maybe Tororo or Mononoke, but Miyazaki and Takahata never made a bad movie and it's pretty hard to decide what's their best tbqh. They are that kind of directors.
>>216989157Would
I would say grave of the fireflies but the inhumanly petty directorial intent behind it kind of soured me on it in hindsight.
>>216986047Kiki's delivery service. >>216986122So is Nippon since the Meiji restoration.
>>216991363anon it’s an autobiography. he hates himself for how he only cried for help when HE was starving
Castle Of Cagliostro
>>216991464yeah but the way they fully embrace the delusional survivor's guilt and go farther to use it as an opportunity to complain about lazy no good rotten kids rubbed me wrong.
>>216988502/a/ is for shitty anime shows
>>216988714>muh son is a disappointmentkek
Either Mononuke or Nausicaa. Love me epic fantasy kino
>>216989464It was?
>>216993651Yes. You can't tell by the colors and lack of film grain? Though of course when I say traditional I mean cel animated.
>>216989157Why did he stick his tongue out?
>>216990690>pig guy4 u
>CTRL+F: Pom Poko>no results foundfucking mongoloids
>>216992789This?
>>216994192It's a fun ride but it leads to nowhere. They just keep trying new things against the humans but fail to make any actual impact. You keep expecting things to escalate emotionally, narratively but it ultimately doesn't. The storyline just fizzles out at the end without any real confrontation or payoff ever happening.
>>216994192>>216994839IRL Racoons want to be our buddies
>>216995014Raccoon dogs, not raccoons.
porco, but even still, their shit is overrated, largely boring and too often the same film/theme etc regurgitated. Characters are ugly, animation rarely interesting to watch or good. Their recent offerings are complete irredeemable trash. Tales of Earthsea wasn't that bad, fuck Hayao Miyizaki for shitting all over it. Should've been proud of his son for what he achieved. Just a jealous has-been.
>>216989080only good thing to come out of that film was the body horror porn doujin
>>216988903No, it's not, goofball. They just used his song.
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>>216995616Tales was pretty bad anon. Yes Hayao was maybe unnecessarily harsh but it's clear Goro doesn't have the spark.
>>216995830didn't say it was great, but I got more enjoyment watching it compared to most of the rest of their catalog unfortunately.
>>216995891>didn't say it was great,He didn't say you did; he said "[it] was pretty bad," which it was.
>>216986047Too hard to pick.For me:CagliostroFuture Boy Conan (series)NausicaaLaputaGrave of the FirefliesOnly YesterdayPrincess MononokeAre all outstanding.Then spirited away happened.......
>>216995439ohhhh my bad... they looked more like raccoons than tanuki to me lol
>>216994192I have to say ballsacks in pom poko were very modestly proportioned.
>>216989464It was done out of convenience and never to take away from the stuff that was animated. Not every movie can be Redline
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>>216991464It's based on a book. Takahata might've leaned into the anti-war angle a bit
>>216996550Everything done out of convenience in art is a detriment to quality.
>>216986047>Princess Kaguya>Grave of Fireflies>Whisper of the HeartIn that order. Takahata mogs Miyazaki
>>216986700This is Miyazaki's best film.
>>216996644>Takahata mogs Miyazakimidwit opinion
>>216996720Factual reality. Miyazaki is the midwit's favorite film maker
>>216986047Porco Rosso and Whisper of the Heart are my personal favourites.
>>216996607I disagree. I like labors of love fine but in Ghibli's case specifically the CGi doesn't affect the quality of the movie
Kiki is the best. My Neighbor 2nd. the cold open and diegetic music / credits at the start of Kiki were enough to earn an oscar alone All the other Ghibli movies have significant flaws:- Porco doesn't really explain why he's cursed, the best sequence in the movie is stolen from Roald Dahl's autobiography, and it resolved with a pedo romance (teenage girl x fifty year old pigman)- Spirited Away is visually astounding but it's just gibberish. there is nothing to be learned from it. it starts and ends arbitrarily with colourful nonsense in between-Laputa is kind of cool but ... okay so you have these people with a culture based on fixed wing flight but they can't find the floating city ANYWHERE but there's a well-known perpetual cloud system that no one thought to look in...? and the kids transformation into an unstoppable action hero was kind of implausible other movies have similar flaws
I'll have the usual Spirited Away boss.
>>216996858I don't know what you're trying to say here. Every artistic decision made affects the quality of an art piece. If you cut corners, corners are cut. There's no way around it.
>>216996858Also I'm not about CGI only. I'm talking about the digital colors.
>>216996915>getting filtered by the most simple coming of age, "money isn't everything" story in the worldDear god let this be bait.
>>216997191>the most simple coming of age, "money isn't everything" story in the worldWhich was this?
>>216997423Spirited Away.
>>216997453I don't recall that being particularly money themed.
>>216997580Don't remember this nigga baiting people with money/gold left and right
As cliche as it is, Princess Mononoke is the best overall, though Nausicaa has the better setting. Cagliostro is too good not to count.Spirited Away is extremely overrated. Howl's Moving Castle is actually a pretty terrible movie, easily as bad as Ponyo and the Boy and the Heron.Grave of the Fireflies and even Arrietty mog the majority of Miyazaki's films, he struggles a lot with story structure.
>>216989541Blue water was created off the same script that also became castle in the sky by a different studio after some rights/optioning kerfuffle. In some alternate timeline there was one movie/anime with an active male protagonist, active female protagonist, hyperborean conspiracy with both nuclear subs and sky ships, team rocket is there for some reason, and it's made by studio Ghibli
>>216997692That wasn't the main point of the movie, especially since the girl wasn't once tempted or distracted by his shenanigans. Like, nobody watching the movie was genuinely worried that she was going to take the gold and get et.
Whisper of The Heart destroys mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5SvCsFFgY4
>>216997121Your purism doesn't account for innovation
>>216997858Yes? Innovation does not consititute an inherent good. As demonstrated through AI slop among other things.
>>216997782>That wasn't the main point of the movieNever said it was.
>>216998136Ya, actually right here: >>216997191
>>216994067Because she wants to sensually tongue my anus after a night of beautiful love-making
Castle of Cagliostro
>>216996583it's specifically about the arrogance of youth, not being willing to submit to your elders and accept your place in society. I think in the context of the movie this message is bizarre because all the adults act like careless drones completely numb to children dying in front of them and the aunt character being a bipolar psycho bitch that is directly hostile to her 4 year old niece and complains about her eating too much. it's a display of a particular warped japanese curmudgeonliness imo.
>>216998105>innovation isn't inherently good because....uh....AI?Nice false equivalency. I specified that the quality-of-life improvements were fine in Ghibli's case specifically, not inherently like you're disingenuously asserting like an intellectually lazy faggot
>>216999532That was the situation back then too. There were so many war orphans that no-one knew what to do with, and the ones who could scrape by weren't particularly happy with having more mouths to feed.
>>216999968Do you know what a principle is? Of course you don't you brain dead retard.
>>217000075Do you know what it means to pivot when you lose an argument? Nice how you dodged my point, tard
>>217000201What point you stupid cunt, you didn't make a single one.
every time I rewatch one of them my rankings change. the ones that have climbed the ranks the most over the years are ponyo and wind rises. howl has consistently been at the bottom for me when it comes to just Miyazaki. although boy and heron might be less good. princess mononoke used to be a 10/10 to me but over recent years I've come to see some of its flaws. spirited away too. porco rosso had a fairly consistent spot in the 8/10s
>>217000051>and the ones who could scrape by weren't particularly happy with having more mouths to feed.the aunt's behavior as depicted in the movie goes beyond that. healthy female humans don't respond to infant relatives like that. they would instinctually mother them, keep the child cloistered in their skirts, hush anything that would cause conflict or instability. telling seita to hit the bricks would be one thing but not a 4 year old
>>216999162That's a guy
>>216995675Nah, the bug porn was better. Especially considering the artist has been working on it for over 10 years
>>217000785Touch grass, chuddie
>>216986093>Go back to /a/all of 4chan is /a/ you retard
Nausicaa, Mononoke or Castle in the SkyThose are my favorite
>>216994839I think it's a metaphor of the far-left youth movement of 1960s-70s Japan, which was pretty intence and some of them ended up blowing up an israeli airport, but for most of them, it led nowhere. They kept faliing almost comically.In Takahata's movies, the main characters ultimately fail miserably to challenge the system and it's somewhat pretty realistic.
>>216986700Was not helped by a godawful dub
>>216986717If you read the book a lot of shit that makes little sense in the movie will be understood, but you'll wonder why they didn't cut it entirely.
Totoro, no contest.
>>216986093Ghibli is above tranime
>>217004010Their struggle is clearly one against modernity. They symbolize the remnants of old Japan, the old way of life, old beliefs, old customs, fading away along with its folkloric elements. Their tight knit community broken up and atomized in the end. If not conservative, at the very least aggressively nostalgic.I suppose one could make the argument the battle is rather against capitalism and whatnot, but were this to be the case it's not made very clear. The only broadly leftist angle which is made overt would be the environmentalist message.
>>216996915Spirited away is complete garbage.Yes it's pretty, but it's just utter nonsense.
>>217005359Spirited Away is about plenty of things. It's mostly a coming of age movie.
>>216986047Castle in the Sky, all other answers are wrong.>>216986093No>>216986165/thread
>>216986700this is the answerit's flawless
>>217005457coomer fatigue
>>216986165this is my favorite
Princess MononokePom Poko >>216996644Based Kaguya enjoyer but the catharsis of the ending is lost on most audiences.
Most Ghibli movies are pretty bland fantasy adventures with boring forgettable characters often in mundane situations. I'm gonna cheat by picking a movie that's not technically Ghibli but features a lot of people who would later go on to work for Ghibli. Not only is it superior to every film in the Ghibli catalog, but it also has the best core cast of characters and undeniably better music than anything Ghibli has ever released.
>>217004140Every and then I come across english dubbed clips of various animes including ghibli ones and I've yet to come across a single one which doesn't sound like complete shit. I don't know what the fuck is going on with that. Is there some kind of expectation that anime dubs are to sound hopelessly amateur? I don't know why anyone would watch them.
>>216987292Miyazaki's best and it's not even close. Studio's best is Grave of the Fireflies.>>216987575No matter how much of a puritan you might be, there is a far more vast catalog of great films appropriate for any child than only four. I guess it's my fault for expecting a weeb to know that there are actually good films out there.
>>216986047Princess monoke IMHOBut I really wish Nintendo went to them hat in hand to make a short Nintendo OVA.
>>216986047The Tale Of The Princess KaguyaBest Miyazaki film is Porco RossoBest Miyazaki work is the Nausicaa manga
>>216988714This is why the Nausicaa manga is the best thing Miyazaki has made. It turns out he's aware of the nuances of the issues but dumbs it down to man vs. nature just for his kiddie films
>>216989080>KikiCorrect! I like Princess Mononoke a ton too
>>217005509That's because most audiences are retarded, it's literally the deepest movie I watched.
>>217004051This, by a huge margin
>>216986156This or Spirited away
>>216986700It gets kinda boring partway through.
>>216988985There's definitely worse ones than Howl, though out of the more popular lineup of ghibli movies, its certainly the worst adaption/has the messiest plot. I still enjoy it for the whimsy and characters and such though.
>>217005593American no read subtitle good, make brain hurty
>>216996915>it resolved with a pedo romancehe liked gina, not the teenager girl
FYI on nyaa dot si, the uploader "hydes" has released gold-standard torrent releases of the first 4 Miyazaki films with fresh translations, best video/audio sources, etc. ; go see if it changes your opinion of any of them vs. the Disney translations. I really hope they do the rest of the Ghilbis but it's a year since their last upload now. Really is the gold standard of what all anime releases should be.
>>217005598>Miyazaki's best and it's not even close.Said no one ever.
>>216986700>Come on guys it's one of his best worksMaybe if it wasn't dull as fuck, you would have a point. Nobody would even know who the fuck the main character is if her name wasn't in the title because that's how much personality the character has in that slog of a movie. It's just so fucking boring and I'm sick of retards pretending like they find any entertainment value in it let alone try to gaslight me or anyone into thinking it's "one of his best works" when it really fucking isn't. If you or anyone unironically claims Kiki's Delivery Service is some great movie, I'm going to just assume you're as interesting as a potato and that your favorite food is white bread because that's the type of person that loves that movie.
>>217006582You ever left home? Been out on your own? It's about that. Things change, childish things don't matter as much as getting a steady job and finding a partner. It's timeless.
>>217006782Nigga Disney films from the 1940's have more life and soul in them than the bulk of Ghibli flicks that came out in the 80's. Kiki is as mundane as a movie as it gets. I don't even understand why it needed to be animated. They could have easily done a boring live action slice-of-life Kiki flick and it would be exactly the same. Nothing about it has any reason to exist in that medium since nothing about it is a showcase of what makes animation so great. It's just Seinfeld without the funny and a flying broomstick. I exaggerate but my point still stands. I hate that fucking movie... almost as much as I hate the new captcha.
>>216986165+1>>216986700Nothing happens. It's a cute slice of life, but there's not a lot of payoff
>>217007032Neither of us were talking about Disney. The mundanities come from the notion of being out on your own, childish things mattering less, needing a steady job, and finding a partner. Let's just agree to disagree. You have other things going on I don't care for.
>>216986047Princess Mononoke. Nothing comes close minus Oscar bait stuff like Grave of the Fireflies.
>>217007165>Oscar bait stuff like Grave of the FirefliesBruh
>>217007065Try giving it a rewatch after you move out from your parents’ house
>>217005036I think it has multiple layers. Have you watched the new Miyazaki documentary? Suzuki was saying Miyazaki was crying while watching Pom Poko because he could tell it was also about their youth, Miyazaki and Takahata were part of the leftist activists.The 1960s left youth movement was pretty idealistic and extreamly juvenile in many ways and many of them became ecologists after that just like Miyazaki himself.
>>217004010>>217005036>>217007722Wtf is this nerd shit it's a film about getting older and how much that sucks.
>>216986165Definitely the most underappreciated of Ghibli. Most people haven't even seen it but should
>>216986129this isn't daily wire premium
>>217008075it was entertaining but I felt like it was missing some deeper meaning
>>216996915>- Porco doesn't really explain why he's cursed, the best sequence in the movie is stolen from Roald Dahl's autobiography, and it resolved with a pedo romance (teenage girl x fifty year old pigman)What scene anon? I must know!I agree with your take on Spirited Away. Such a garbage movie.
>>217003500then why are you telling people to go back there, retard
Nausica is great. I find it underrated and overlooked.
>>216986047Wind Rises is incredible but Grave of the Fireflies gets my vote. Everything they do rules.
>>217008356Good point, Nausicaa is amazing.
>>217008356I think the manga is so much better and the anime leaves out like 70% of the story and that's why the anime is seen as underwhelming by comparison. I wish they would do a full adaptation of Nausicaa. The movie doesn't do the story or the characters justice at all. Mononoke is my favorite still because that was the first one I saw. I love every single one of them, even the ones I don't love as much. They're all different, and they're all great.
I loved Grave of the Fireflies when I was younger but watching the movie as a parent made me furious. Sasuke killed his little sister because of his pride. He should have grovelled and stayed with the aunt. My most enjoyable watch is The Cat Returns. It's just a fun adventure movie, similar to The Princess Bride. It has no pretensions of being a moral story, it's just about a girl who's in over her head and finally realises she's not a kid anymore. The best overall is Howl's Moving Castle. The music, the story, the characters, it all ties in great in a wonderful package. I tried watching Ponyo with my son and it was almost traumatising for him when the little fish ran away from her father. He couldn't watch after that. It really is a terrible story when you break it down like that.
>>217008647>The best overall is Howl's Moving Castle. The music, the story, the characters, it all ties in great in a wonderful package.Naaaah it's in the same league as Spirited Away. A bunch of shit happens and nobody really learns anything.
Nausicaa should be their best movie, but it has a problemThey made Mononoke later which is basically Nausicaa but with a guy main, and io and behold, it's a better movieSo Mononoke is a better movie, but because it's a more refined Nausicaa, which, at times, it just drags on
>>217008931my problem with Nausicaa is just sound quality and a soundtrack that doesn't fit as well as the other movies. Due to the abrasive audio it's not really a comfy movie to rewatch.
The older I get, the more Only Yesterday hits me in the feels.
>>217008986that too, but it drags dogMononoke is LONGER than nausicaa, and doesn't stop as much, it feels shorter because actual things are moving the plotThe damn giant space sausage nigga walks on the forest and it's not a view, the guy is actually going somewhere, it's "a view", but even that "view" is advancing the plotYou have "views" on nausicaa that do nothing, it just looks coolThat's why I say it's more refined, that's good cinematography, it's good that they learned that trick, that you can show a view and that it actually does something besides looking good, I love that
>>217006175The Nausicaa film is only good for playing a game of "spot the things that went into Final Fantasy".
>>217008502Nausicaa is a rare mary sue character who remains likeable and it's refreshing to have a film that doesn't do hero's journey arc - she remains OP the whole time
The earnestness of whisper of the heart made me want to cry
>>216986165the opening with the history of the world is so cool
>>216986047Totoro, Kiki, Grave of Fireflies, Mononoke and Princess Kaguya are the only good ones
>>216988985why though? i thought it was by far the comfiest of all ghiblis and i can endlessly rewatch it, while others i get bored of quick
>>217008647>I tried watching Ponyo with my son and it was almost traumatising for himArent all Ghibli flicks kind of traumatising for kids? I remember being scared as fuck of Yubaba in Spirited Away when i was younger
>>217008647God damn your kid is a pussy
>>217010156Because Howl is such an overt female fap fantasy which is going to rub a lot of men the wrong way. Twilight vibes. I don't know what Miyazaki was thinking with that one.
>>217005598>Grave of the FirefliesI watched that with a Korean girl I was dating and she said "those Japanese kids had it coming, I hope they burn in hell".
>>216986700Boring as shit>b-but I want to be the little cute anime girlMoe fags should be raped to death.
>>217006582Based
Wind RisesPrincess MononokoWhisper of the HeartNausicaWhen Marnie Was Herein no particular order: Also shout out to Kiki, Totoro and the highly underrated Kaguya
