Shills tried their best, and yet it still bombed so hard that there probably won't be a 4th
It's already made $200m more than Superman you fucking retard
>>216989533>released in summer>barley reach half a trill before 26what went so wrong bros
>>216989558still not enough to break even :/
People who care about the box office despite standing to gain nothing from it's results ought to be put into an old-timey cannon at shot at a vertical mountain face.
>>216989533Reminder Superman did less than Man of Steel.
>>216989558i choose not to believe that
>>216989533Domestic doesn't really matter anymore. Tptb have turned their back on us. We're too poor to afford their movies now.
>>216989642It will break even in one week and then profits hundreds of millions after it.
>>216989533>domestic box officeI like how this is still thrown around as if it meant fucking ANYTHING. China eats up literally any old slop and all these movies make their money there. You could make 0 dollars domestic and still get enough money out of chinks to make 4 sequels.
>>216989723>Domestic doesn't really matter anymoreis this the new cope?
>>216989667>laughs in 3x the profit
>>216989758Superman flopped and made Warner lose money.
>>216989642it's made $761m already though
>>216989533Superman made less money than Man of Steel though
>>216989756money is money, no matter where the fuck you earn it, you fucking retard, Cameron doesnt give a fuck about domestic gross if he get a billion to make sure he can sell more slop.
>>216989756It was always their weakest cope to begin with.
>>216989533>it still bombedIt's not about the money. There will be as many continuations as it takes for the message to sink in.
>>216989533Nobody cares about superman outside of the US.
>>216989800it needs to make 1.6 billion to break even
>>216989758Lmao you actually fell for that bullshit article huh? Please explain to me how a movie with the same budget as MoS that made $60m less money made 3x the profit?
>>216989774
>>216989999Nobody cares about Avatar outside of India
>>216990148with a 400m budget? i understand marketing but it surely can't be that much
ITT: DCjeets arguing with Avatarjeets
>domestic doesn't matter even tho studios get like 80% of the gross on the first weeks there vs like 25% in China>it's the BROWN third world that matters!!!No wonder disneybrowns have to resort to this cope, Zootopia also lost to the Superchad in the only market that matters
>>216990184Keep in mind this dont include the fuck expensive global marketing cost Gunn refuse to reveal
Gunjeetman got raped by anime lmao
>>216990242So Man of Steel never was a flop then? You shilled the film by bragging about how it will make more money than MoS
>>216990285>global box office divided by average US ticket priceabsolutely pathetic cope, chudcel
>>216990242>Mentally challenged gunjeet embarrassing itself again Both Zootopia 2 and Avatar 3 will pass Superman domestically before they end their runs you retard
Why do all chuds worship Zack Snyder and James Cameron, the most indian-coded CGI-slop directors in the west?
>>216990321>So Man of Steel never was a flop thenOf course not, it got a sequel just like Superman. Not as fast because it only made a third of the profit but still decent enough
Shieeet
>>216990692Two billies incoming.
>>216989648It's just jeets, jews and niggers arguing with each other
>>216989533Supergoyschizo truly is crashing out because Avatar already made a billy while warner is getting sold to fucking Netflix due to superman's failure
>>216990228If you spend five minutes on literally any social media site right now, the contrast is impossible to miss.Your feed is flooded with Superman memes, people yelling “A1! A1!” over food clips, wholesome smiling Superman reaction images, Krypto reactions, Lex Luthor being petty. They’re not even framed as “Superman memes” half the time; they’re just being used as everyday reaction language. The movie escaped its own fandom and turned into raw meme material.Then there’s Avatar.Nothing. No recurring images. No quotes people spam ironically. No reaction shots you recognize out of context. No meme templates that survived beyond release week. It made a ton of money and then completely vanished from the cultural bloodstream. That’s what people mean when they talk about zero cultural impact.
>>216990771Huh? Superman is the reason two companies are bidding over a $100 billies for WB, and Avatar is making like 80% of its money on countries where people eat literal poo, being the new Transformers isn't anything to brag about (unless you're brown yourself ofc)
>>216990836This was 100% copypasted from Reddit
>>216990868name one popular Avatar meme
>>216990850These posts make me laugh, what countries do you consider brown? Because you're simping hard for the US, which is more brown than anywhere in Europe, where Avatar is making a shit ton
>>216989533They should just make it into an open world RPG video game.
>>216990948Literally every country on that list is brown except for Korea.
>>216989533its over for furries
>>216989533why would I watch a movie about generic blue cats hugging trees?I would rather watch animal documentaries
>>216991090Nah, Korea is brown too.
>>216990948A good barometer for if your country is brown or not is how many brown people come from other countries to live there. The more, the whiter.
>>216989723Yes it does. Studios get a much higher percentage off domestic. Disney gets 90% opening weekend and it drops every week after. Overseas it’s a flat 50% or less. In China it’s only 25%
>>216989648It’s kind of frustrating that in recent years (not sure exactly when the trend started) it’s become a major part of online discussion about films. Like people determining whether a film is good or not based on box office numbers rather than the film’s merits or flaws. Do people not realize there’s excellent films that bombed, and plenty of crappy movies that did well financially?
>>216990179I don't know about this 3x number, but multiple people on Man of Steel had backend deals, especially Nolan, that ate into the profits for the studio. Plus all the extra money Man of Steel made came from China which keeps like 70-75% of the box office, whereas Superman did much better domestically where theaters only keep about 40-50% of the take. So Superman probably did generate more profit theatrically for the studio. But Man of Steel also came out when dvd/blu ray sales were bigger, so it may very well have made up the difference there, I dunno.
>>216989533>>216991919https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBeIAeILk
>>216993125Man of Steel was not a financial failure but a failure for starting a new universe. It was a critical bomb with a massive second weekend drop off which meant bad word of mouth and a very divisive movie. That is not what you want to build your foundation off of and had they done a straight up follow up it likely would’ve done worse at the BO. Movies with bad drop offs alway do worse. WB wasn’t going to reboot Superman for a third time in a row so they just went into damage control mode and demanded Batman be in the next one and a big name to play him
>>216989533Here’s a boomer dunking on your bitch ass and will prove you wrong.https://youtu.be/xbYPScHMP6M?si=j85a5sqAunWTYJg5
>>216989533Further proof of the shit taste of Americans
>>216993353are you doing this for free, shill?
Snyder Avatar would have hit 3 billies
>>216990221Theatre cut.
more like avatar FART AND ASS
>>216989533First worlders spend more time on tiktok and trying to find ways to get tiktok famous. Big budget movies are for low iqs, end of story.
Saar please watch our Supersaar movie please and thank you.
>>216990719Twwooo biullliieesss????? AVADRUNPF GOT 2 BILLIIEESSS?????
>>216994337now adjust for inflation
OH NO NO NO GUNNJEETS
>be Gunn>be an extremely shitty writer and director that only found success being tard wrangled by Feige>somehow your pedo narcissism makes you think you're hot shit after three movies of genocidal CG racoon dropping quips>go to DC>somehow trick the dumb fuck suits to make you head of DC, immediately multiple big budget DC movies flop and are cancelled>The Batman 2 is on hold as Gunn fights to steal the character>finally releases his DC Superman movie (his soiboi army pretended TSS never happened)>despite huge gaslighting by the online soiboi community, the movie becomes a flop with International audiences and far behind MoS not even adjusting for inflation>has to keep shill Peacemaker wherever possible, making Peacemaker more important than the actual man of steel>all upcoming projects are inbound flops and only appealing to a soiboi online forum warrior like Gunn>doesn't even dare to call Man of Tomorrow a Superman sequel>Supergirl is yet another wacky space comedy GoTG rehashBRAVOOOOO
>>216990934The next Oscar category. Most popular meme spawned.
The Gunn effect....
The tier list feels truer than ever. Although that’s considering pre AoTD Snyder. Also reminder that Zaslav only renewed Gunn’s contract by 6 months so if MoT flops he’s probably out, Netflix politics withstanding.
>>216994688Supergirl will decide Gunnverse's future. They are heavily advertising it now. If it flops, there won't be MoT or it will be marketed as a finale movie to end this shit without losing face.
>>216994509>>216994540>>216994625>>216994688>>216994845What's up my floppers, I hope you're having a FANTASTIC (say that again? LOL) christmas holidays!
>>216995462Glad you admit Gunjeetman flopped
>>216995695It didn't, cant' say the same about that fantastic floor bomb you brownies were shilling back in july THOUGHIE
>>216989648This, fucking nobodies talking about how much a piece of media made as if they're shareholders lmao
>>216995741Debunked>>216994509
>>216994845You’re an idiot. MOS will be filming when Supergirl comes out. And Gunn didn’t direct Supergirl or write it nor is he planning on doing anymore Supergirl movies. Giving each character one movie to establish themselves before teaming them up. She will be in MOT
>>216996010*MOT
>>216995931>opinion piece by seething disneypooRebunked
>>216989533There won't be a 4 & 5, Cameron's sick of making them & trying to dump them. Plus the cast is getting too old & tired of that shit too
>>216996035Debunked>>216994509
>>216989533>Avatar flopping domestically but making money overseas>ie India, China>/tv/ has a bizarre boner for Avatar despite it being woke garbageEvidence /tv/ is made up of mostly Indians and bug people
>>216989879>getting a quarter is just like getting a dollar, chud
>box office thread yet again/tv/ be like ok throw me some numbers
Superman’s box office is what you get when you appease that small minority of nitpicky Superman’s fans and forsake making a simply cool movie.
Snyderbros are faggots
>>216994509fake AI generated article
If Gunn's Superman is a punkrocker then what kind of music does Snyder's Superman enjoy?
>>216998060Pick any lame depressing suicide shit made in the Seattle area from the 90s.
>>216998060Creed and Nickelback
>>216990850OK, whore, yet you claimed Man of Steel "flopping" is the reason the company needs to be soldRather Superman flopping is why they needed to sell WBNow get the rope and hang yourself, hypocrite whore
>>216998023Get over it, Supernerd. Your hero's just too lame and geeky to beat Batman.
>>216989648>People who care about the box office despite standing to gain nothing from it's results ought to be put into an old-timey cannon at shot at a vertical mountain face.Movies need to make money to succeed, dumbass. Studios ain't making them pro-bono. If it flops, that's it. No sequels, no nothing. Basic shit.
>>216990850>Kindness is the new punkrock!>Avatar is making like 80% of its money on countries where people eat literal poo, being the new Transformers isn't anything to brag about (unless you're brown yourself ofc)Does your sappy pretentious slop represent liberal moral values or not? Just yesterday you assholes claimed racism and transphobia isnt the "Superman way"and that snyderfans are racist and transphobicThis is nwhat makes the phrase "kindness is the new punkrock" ring hollow and proves to show its false marketing, Gunn and his fans alike are fratboys that will bully other men who dont dress and behave masculine enough
>>216998194>Gunn and his fans alike are fratboys that will bully other men who dont dress and behave masculine enough>snyderfans are racist and transphobicI can't decide who is more based.
>>216998060Whatever music 13-year olds in Tennessee were listening to in 2001.
>>216998132WB was selling anyway, it was the whole reason zazlav was hired
>>216992595the difference is now do to DVDs mostly being dead that movies entire success, and thus sequels is more or less entirely determined by its box office. Batman Begins would've never got a sequel if it were under similar circumstances.
>>216998248This. Zazlav was hired to fix WB so that it actually had value so they could eventually sell it for a shit load of money. That's why Gunn was hired. It wasn't just their awful comic book movies, the whole company needed fixing. Before Zazlav WB was a miserable pile of failure.
>>216998111Nickelback is at least upbeat most of the time
>>216998332Hating Nickelback is extremely reddit.
>>216998134>Gets shit on by Batman in his own movie and has to beg for his momLMAO
>>216998060>CRAAWWWWWWLING IIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIN
>>216998360100%
>>216998360i never said anything bad about Nickelback I like Nickelback
>>216998371Why do you nerds always exaggerate how dark Cavill was? He wasn't some depressed fuck, but some guy with the world on his shoulders. That and pretending he's some psycho killer. Is it autism?
>>216998360zoom zoom
>>216998425You got played.
>>216998421>Is it autism?I mean, the guy sat in the closet making Forrest Gump ree sounds in order to cope, it probably is partly autism.
>>216998421he was a bit of a moody asshole, I'm pretty sure the only time he smiles and seems sincerely joyous in the entire two movies is the first flight scene. even when he's saving people he doesn't seem like he enjoys it. even Spider-Man for all his real world issues seemed to genuinely enjoy being Spider-Man in the Raimi movies.>oh no woe is me I'm a 6'2 adonis musclebound chad with immortality, the ability to fly and super everything else my life is so hardshut up
>>216998421He killed half of Metropolis and scowled at all times
>>216989533What kind of shilling is this? Gotta be getting 10 dollars per post if you really are gonna pretend a movie that barely made 600 million did better than one that is already at a billion+ in less than two weeks
>>216998371>Linkin Parkding ding ding dingMoS's demo is the same demo that was making cringe-inducing DBZ MVs in 2003.
>>216998421>why do people act like Cavillman was darkerit's a mystery
>>216990285>>216994688i feel like gunn's superman could've beaten MoS's box office if superfags didn't decide to just spend the entire time leading up to the movie's release antagonizing snyderfags who clearly weren't the vocal minority that people painted them as.>b-but they wouldn't have seen it beca...keaton as batman and RDJ as iron man were met with almost the same level of pushback that snyderfags were giving gunn's projects and i think we all know what happened with those.they would've inevitably gave it a chance by the time of it's release. hell, most of them were just pissed that cavil got screwed over.
>>216998634We're still going to relentlessly antagonize you braindead snyderincels, sorry. We don't care about Gunn's box office, we just like making you cry.
>>216998634>vocal minorityThey honestly were. The movie didn't do as well because of international disinterest. Notably China completely abandoned capeshit/has their own movies on top of it now and Euros outside of Anglo cunts were less interested. I highly doubt there was a significant concentration of Snyderfags in either of these two markets. Domestically the movie did very well.
Why are all Americans gunjeets??
>>216998702It's almost like there aren't actually a lot of Zack Snyder fans in general or something. Gee.
>>216998421Cavill sucks. He has that Dolph Lundgren in MOTU energy.
>>216989533>$400m budgetIs that for the film itself or the series? I think some of the film productions were done at the same time so a lot of time could be invested into just the cgi.
>>216998703>Why is Snyder so popular in India?Look up "machismo" and "india" on google, you'll get your answer. There's a lot of insecure brownies out there.
>>216998999This one was lower at 350
>>216998421Snyder, not Cavill.
>>216994509there are a lot of jeets that love superman, but it takes them like 30 people to buy 1 ticket lol
>>216998703Gunn’s Superman is uniquely American. He’s the strongest man on earth while also being extremely humble. Being humble despite your strength is not something that appeals to India. Also there’s the fact that humor is difficult to translate.
>>217002030This. Gunn also removed what so many people in US got bored with Superman. Him being too powerful and “God” like. He purposely showed Superman completely fucked up for the first trailer and at the beginning of the movie to show this Superman can get roughed up. Most popular capeshit characters are not the most powerful. Batman has no powers. Spider Man always get beat up by more powerful villains and so does Wolverine who is power wise one of the weakest mutants
>>217002030>>217002295What was humble about his portrayal? Because he came off as hyper sensitive and whiney. Constantly crying about people not "getting" him or giving him grief.
>>217002446Humble as in “I don’t behave in the way you’d expect the strongest man in the planet to behave”. Superman apologizes to people, he cares about what other people think. He doesn’t have to do any of that. He does so because he’s humble.
>>217002492You can also say he is self absorb, hyper sensitive, and a Karen. This recent portrayal gave off a very feminine aura. He's almost like Homelander, in that he cares way too much about his image and what others think of him, even someone evil as Lex Luthor, and this is after Lex killed an innocent man in front of him just for shit and giggles. Instead of treating Lex as a monster he instead was more worried about over explained himself to Lex, and trying to get Lex to "understand" or "accept" him.Imagine dying at the hands of a thug because of Superman, afterwards Superman is trying to get the thug to "get him" as some woman more obsessed with his ego and self image than getting that thug locked up for what he did to me. It honestly felt more like James Gunn taking Superman and changing the character fundamentally so he can externalize his own issues through the character. Because Gunn seems very self absorb.
>>217002492This. He doesn’t want people to think he’s Man of Murder. Some super powered alien that’s just going to do whatever the fuck he wants. It’s a theme Gunn is going with. The other meta humans like Justice Gang did whatever they want and now there will be consequences. After Hawk Bitch dropped a world leader to his death Rick Flag got the go ahead from the US to build Salvation to throw meta humans into. Superman and The Gang or going to be sent there. Question is at the beginning of MOT or the end
>>217002591You’re brown see >>216999000
>>217002600So you're saying that the consequences of the Not-Justice League killing the dictator and his soldiers in scenes that were clearly made so the audience would find fun in their demise and root for the "justified" killing, is that the obvious bad guys that are shown to be corrupt and uncaring to innocent lives are going to go after the Not-Justice League and Superman by doing something that is being portrayed as wrong and dehumanizing? I don't know, but the whole thing seems to be pushing that the bad guys are obviously on the wrong, and the Not-Justice League were still justified.It would have been different if, say, it was Superman himself chastising the Not-Justice League for what they did, since he is supposed to be the obvious good guy and the moral arbiter.
>>217002693We never saw what Superman thought about The Gang killing a world leader. However from Peacemakee we found out The Gang was fired and are now headquartered in some shitty strip mall. Also not about killing anymore and why they didn’t recruit Peacemaker. Also see that Superman is not with them so obviously he isn’t happy with them
>>217002591You’re desire for characters to be perfect in all aspects of life just goes to show that you aren’t white. Perfect characters are boring.
>>217002764Pretty sure that wasn’t their headquarters. That was just a place where they were doing secret interviews.
>>217002769Reminder that you're talking about a movie where Superman is shown to always be able to rescue anyone with ease even if the scenes take where he goes to rescue people one by one takes minutes, all because the movie is doing everything to show that nothing bad ever truly happens and that Superman never fail. Hell, Gunn probably thinks that this self absorb and whiny version of Superman is perfect, since it is just like him.
>>216989533I refuse to believe real people actually watch these Avatar movies.
>>217002764You're doing a lot of assumptions here for things that are not shown.What was shown is Superman just sort of complaining somewhat about Mister Terrific killing the monster, but then going back to not care much about it.And in Peacemaker Rick Flag letting his own soldiers under him get killed just so he can get his revenge, clearly portraying him as a corrupt and uncaring bastard that the audiences should hate.
I’m betting they all get thrown into Salvation at the beginning by Flair. Lex is released and starts working with Brainiac who ends up infecting him with a virus while then taking over Earth and turning humans into cyborgs. Lex breaks Superman and metas out of Salvation to stop Brainiac and Salvation is turned into The Phantom Zone where they end up sending Brainiac
>>217002825The last scene where Superman is talking to Alex contradicts your prescription.
>>217002900No, it doesn't. He's once again complaining about people not understanding how human and emotional he is, and yadda, yadda, yadda. This to a fucking monster that kidnapped tons of people and killing someone innocent in front of him just because. If Superman wasn't so self absorb he wouldn't care about what Lex things, he'd would just want to get Lex in prison, specially after what he did. But this Superman is more worried about what Lex thinks of him than anything else. Thankfully, we were all spared from the emotional speech because Krypto, the unsung hero of the movie, interrupted him and mauled Lex, treating him as a ragdolll, something everyone, SPECIALLY THE AUDIENCE, wanted to see it happen.
>>216990285I'm a punk flopper yes I am.
>>216998634Gunn’s Superman movie was typical capeslop so it was doomed to underwhelm on some level, and that’s probably why it failed internationally. But also the real general audience is indifferent to Snyders DC. Superfags/reddit discourse has snowballed into a disingenuous hate train. On a side note I think Avatar’s success proves that Snyder’s 3hr epic approach was viable. Like Avatar 3 WB could’ve clocked JL in at 3hr20m and it would be fine, and the same for BvS.
>>217003228The Superman movie also looks like shit. Visually that is. The camera work, the color filter, the CGI. Good God, was the CGI bad.Meanwhile Avatar looks great.
>>217003199Him getting emotionally upset is a flaw. Perfection involves stoicism.
>>217003370See, the thing i think is that for the director, maybe that wasn't a flaw at all, because the movie honestly felt like just Gunn venting about his own personal issues.Wasn't there a marketing video where he cries while filming the scene where Superman tries to make his speech?
>>217003370Faggots like Gunn absolutely believe that stoicism is a negative trait, they worship women.
>>217003199It's funny how the movie lectures the audience about kindness yet it makes sure to give them cathartic moments of the villains being mauled/killed.>Superman throws Lex at the wall for no reason>doggo stomps Lex in the floor>Hawkgirl kills Putin after cracking a jokeWonder Woman 1984 was actually a movie about kindness and everyone hated it.
>>216990674>third of the profitneither superflop profited, WB was just pretending they did well
>>217003401Nah, there’s one where he and the actor are having an argument about whether Superman should be so emotional. The actor argues that getting emotional at the moment isn’t very rational and Gunn argues that the point is that it isn’t rational. Constantly being called an alien hurts his feelings and made him emotional.
>>217003425Haha stoicism is the most beta cuck philosophy that every onions faggot like Ryan Holiday jumped on. “A black dude fucked my girlfriend. Well it’s out of my control and I shouldn’t get upset about it. “Jewberg is cutting my payday and making me work more. Well, it’s out of my control better not get upset about it”
>>217003501>PutinThat was David Ben Gurion.
>>217003501Don't forget about Mister Terrific killing the kaiju.
>>216989533>i can't believe the movie franchise known for its relatively weak opening weekends and incredibly strong legs opened relatively weakly and is having strong legs.
>>217003579Not a stoic but I'm pretty sure that's not what stoicism is about.
>>217003579>>217003693that's not even close to what stoicism isbeing stoic means you limit how much you let out, a more muted performance of "i'm gonna kill this nigger" as opposed to "I'M GONNA KILL THIS NIGGER" is better every single timeyou want stoic? look at mark hamill in empire strikes back when vader tells the truthyou want faggot shit? look at rey's face in the entire sequel trilogy, or darth emo's tantrums
>>216990285Inflation truly is one of the greatest scams of all time.
>>217003635>stands there and lets the armed black man murder a monster that he easily could've uppercut into the neighboring solar system and crash landed on a planet conveniently suited for its survival
Avatar has legs, it always has. I turned off the first avatar after like 15 minutes, I never hear literally anyone talk about it or praise it offline but it always succeeds. It always has legs. It will make like 7 billion dollars, because it just hits something in people, like a blockbuster action movie equivalent of mr bean
>>217004569The problem with avatar is that the aliens don’t have enough legs. Why do the blue people have two pairs of limbs while every other animal in the world has three?
>>217004569/co/ has their own avatar by the name of Big City Greens.No one ever seems to talk about it, there's very little fanart, but the viewer count is insaneThose fans tend to be a bunch of children which explains a lot of this.Not everyone who watches and enjoys it has to go online and praise it so muchYou forget that 4chan is not filled with normal people so shilling and shitting on a movie is not something you'd see unless there was monetization involved.
