Trojan armour in Nolan's The Odyssey
>>216997556lmao whose wife did the eye holes on those things?
you're not allowed to be critical of Nolan's gay shit aesthetics
>>216997556cool, they look hand made from a poor mom wanting to give you a great halloween mask
>>216997556Did Bamboo Labs sponsor this movie?
>>216997871Yes
>>216997556why is it so awful and embarrassing?
>>216997556historical accuracy aside, it doesn't look good at all
>>216997907Humiliation ritual.
>>216997871My main issue from what I've seen so far is he never decided whether he wanted to go fully grounded and realistic, which would have been fine, or full on stylized fantasy, which also would have been fine. Instead we get a bland "worst of both worlds" compromise. I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it but every image I've seen so far leads me to believe this movie has no identity at all.
>>216997936troy is a myth
>>216997556>>216997797troy and trojans are not real
>>216997964It's slop in its purest form.
>>216997964you have no identity
I don't even care about accuracy for the time it was written. It looks objectively fucking trash. Literally like some ol' plastic ahh bargain bin halloween shit from one of those big party stores.
>>216998040you're slop
>>216997903oh my science! is that the heckin' bible accurate armor????
>>216998055you're trash
>>216997964>Instead we get a bland "worst of both worlds" compromiseThat's my issues. Either go full 300 and make it over the top wild looking, or go the grounded route and try to be more accurate. A little bit of both is like mixing milk and tequila.
>>216998069I was born in the slop, molded by it.
>>216997556I'm okay with it not being historical accurate, but I'm not sure where the fuck he is going with this
I don't think I'll be torrenting this.
>>216998138it just looks cheap, like he went to some party shop to get the costumes
>>216997556Nolan is putting his own stamp on it and going full fantasy. I don't see an issue with it. If you want historical armour, then you should also want the characters to be speaking ancient Homeric Greek and played by actors who are part of a long extinct race. Don't be silly people.
>>216998196It's not about historical accuracy, nitwit. It looks like low effort 3d printed shit - this is the issue, not your strawman.
>>216998196OP's pic is anything but "full fantasy" that's the problem. It looks terrible. I don't have an issue with your pic but if that's how he wanted it to look all the armor should be that stylized. The OP armor just looks like shit.
I liked the armor in 2004 Troy
>>216997903That shit is so gay. I'm glad Nolan's team took some artistic liberty. Niggas looked like traffic cones
>>216998281That movie is great. It would make a billion dollars if it came out today. The audiences of the time just had epic fatigue.
>>216997871>>216997907>>216997936>>216997964>>216998138>>216998235>>216998269The armour looks like stone which also seems to match the weird looking temple in the prologue. I guess Nolan is depicting the Trojans as a kind of grounded brutalist civilisation.
achilles's achilles heel was his achilles heel
>>216998412Do you think they had time to finish this set before shooting ended?
>>216998412styrofoam/cardboard lookin-ass set
>>216997903With that image everything is said and done xDD
>>216997556Bet they're not going to depict this
>>216998303it might be gay, but if you think >>216997903is MORE gay than >>216997556 then YOU are gay
I'll probably see this but the minimalist production design is kind of bad
>>216997556"With the blast shield down, I can't see! How am I supposed to fight?"
>>216997556>i cant see fucking shit in this thing
>>217000002death blossom
have none of you shitters ever been to theater?That's what armor looks like in stylized productions
>>216998022It was up until some retard blew it up with Dynamite
>>216997871It’s the boyega principleUsing politically correct and anachronistic casting he casts a spell over the mediocre aspects of the production>boyega principle = when studios turn casting into a political tripwire so you can’t criticize the movie without walking into a racism trapshort version you can paste:>the boyega principle is when a studio makes a really conspicuous race-coded casting choice in a legacy ip, not to serve the story, but to serve marketing and armor>the role is picked so that any complaint can be reframed as “you just hate [x] people” instead of “the writing / tone / direction sucks”>it moves the argument from “is this good?” to “are you a bigot?”how it works:>take a famous property with built-in fan expectations>drop in a “statement” casting choice that will obviously change the vibe (or clash with the setting)>spend the promo cycle hinting that pushback = prejudice>media runs cover: every bad review is “toxic fans,” every concern is “racist backlash”>result: quality is off limits, you are forced to defend yourself instead of critique the filmnamed after how disney used boyega’s casting in star wars as a moral shield: any criticism of the direction, tone, or character handling could be smeared as “angry racists mad a stormtrooper is black” rather than “this trilogy is creatively bankrupt.”
>>217001681Why are people defending these? I like Nolan and I don't mind fantasy armor in my fantasy but these just look cheap and bad.
>>216998196>eat shit or you’re le SILLYIt’s sad how this works on you
>>217002230Because this is a woke dei version of the odyssey and therefore nothing about it can be bad >movies never had good costumes>we were always at war with east asia
>>216997556looks like cheap direct to streaming shit n slop with over the hill actors. that's what it is anyway. i would have never guessed it was some big hotshot's movie. it looks so unremarkably cheap and bland
>people expecting visual creativity from Nolan, the guy that made a movie about going into people’s dreams and created the most boring dreams imaginablePeople shouldn’t be surprised about this. Nolan doesn’t give a fuck about interesting aesthetics and always creates the most barebones, least visually interesting version of things he can make. When it’s something more grounded in reality like Oppenheimer, it works out. When there is any fantasy element, it fails.
A big issue is that the helmets are so oversized that it becomes a parody
>>216997903Heat stroke seems inevitable in Nolan armor
>>216998412I've seen better sets in the flurry of 80's fantasy movies inspired by Conan's success. Cheaply made movies. They at least tried with what little they had. Look at how this retard spends the insanely huge budget. Doesn't give a fuck at all does he. At this point I assume it's deliberately to piss ppl off. like with the Lord of Dem Rangz series, it is solely to spit in the face Tolkien, Tolkien fans, and ppl with good taste.
>>216997556Christ, I wouldn't find that level of quality acceptable from a fucking cosplayer, let alone a major Hollywood movie.
>>216997556Did they forgot to paint it?
Why are there Trojans in The Odyssey?Why does this need to advertise here so hard?
>>217002438Every shot in Oppenheimer looked like pajeet ai with the “cinematic” option turned on
>>217002797You aren’t wrong, but it’s the best Nolan can be expected to do.
>>216998004I mean it's a myth in the same sense the holocaust and moonlanding are.
>>217002863There is physical proof of the moon landing sweetie.
>>216997556white = evil?
>>217002562nigga they had better set in the 1910s than this shit. there is no excuse
>>217002797lmao, imagine having such TRASH TASTE you FUCKING CLOWN LOLOLOLOLOL. Cope and seethe, you'll never be a real filmmaker like CHADopher NOLAN you 4chan chud FUCK
>>217003124Wow a real indian who poops on the street and eats it
>>217003143OLD SPORT you're wasting your FAT MISERABLE FUCKING CHUD ASS on 4chan while Christopher Nolan makes BANGER after BANGER after BANGER with 1,000,000 likes on X you'll NEVER amount to his greatness so sit down and STFU XD
>>217003269But his movies are slop so this just makes me glad I’m not himI’m just going to confirm that you’re an Indian who poops on the street and eats it with his brown hands
>>216997556The whole movie is amateur hour.
>>217003102The 1910s was the peak of modern civilization though.
>>216998493were they in syria or something
>this isn't historically accurate!!!
Guys I'm starting to think Nolan is a hack
>>217003530Nah now he’s the guy saying>UGHHH WHY DO YOU CARE JUST LET PEOPLE PRETEND TO ENJOY THINGS
>>216997556Realistic or not it looks retarded. If this was what they really wore then he should have changed it.
>>216998407Then why did 300 make a shit zillion dollars two years later?The real reason Troy tanked was because the retards from GoT wrote it.
>Nolan saw Dunc and the praise it was getting>I CAN DO THAT TOO
>>216997964Great reply
>>217003559Yeah Troy is a snooze fest >>217003580Exactly what I thought>OMG IS MINIMALISM IN NOW? YAYYYY I DONT HAVE TO TRY ANYMORE! YAAYYYYYY!
>>217003530It's not simply about being historically accurate. Everyone acknowledges this is a fictional story. But historical armour pieces just fucking look good, they're often ready to go for mass rentals for movie productions, and you've already got a solid design to replicate if you need a decent baseline for your own costumes.Like what is it with western creators absolutely hating historical armour? They always think historical pieces are too boring and they want to put their own gay twist on it. It ALWAYS looks like shit, too, it's incredible. It's a massive fucking waste of money to make something that looks like absolute dogshit.
>>216997556How hard was it to at least not make it oversized?
>>216997556Shows like ZENA and Hercules had better fucking armors.
>>216997556it looks fresh though
>>216998303And these >>216997556 niggas look like their armor is for a kindergarten play.
>>216997556looks like shit
>>216997556What material is that supposed to be?
>>216998412Looks so fucking bad holy shit. Like a cheap high school theater prop
>>216997556Fallout 4 Toilet Armor
>>216997556They look like fucking legos. What the fuck was Nolan smoking??????????
>>217003102photo trickery
>>217004641Yeah it’s called directing
>>217004626Hilariously accurate
>>216997556
>>216997556Nolan is just mailing it in. I think all movies are just awful now nomatter what they do. This looks like a bland piece of shit. Nothing exciting at all. No cool action scenes to make you even want to watch it.
>um, it's supposed to be a fantasy movie, chud!>oh and we also made all the fantasy bland boring and retarded lol!
>>216997797
>>216997556General KenobiWe've been expecting you
>>217004641what do you mean "trickery"? film is literally the art of photo trickery. they straight up made the whole set, man. how is it excusable that someone from 100 years ago made something 50 trillion times better than a modern movie with a 1000 goyrillion dollar budget is able to make?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM5hVs2UB4s
>>217004759>and this in no way indicates that it’s propaganda! teehee!
Nothing is going to happenIt's been 20 years of Nolan showcasing his fraudulence to the world and everyone is still enraptured every time he makes a movie. It makes no difference whether The Odyssey is getting some negative buzz on 4chan and Xitter. It's going to come out in 7 months, everyone will adore it, it'll win a bunch of Oscars and the critics will call Nolan a genius again. It happens every single time.
>>217004766She looks like faceapp gender switch Eli roth can’t unsee
>>217004921He has the third world shilling for him online at all timesOnce india got internet it was just over Wha lt year was that? 2014? Oh yeah the last time he made a decent flick
>>217004941My favorite part about how everyone acts like they're intelligent for enjoying Nolan movies is he himself has no pretensions. At every opportunity he readily admits to be a trickster, a magician, an entertainer, a technician. Rarely does he call himself an artist, if ever
>>216997903That's a chariot rider armor, a foot soldier wouldn't wear that
>>216998196>>216998412I don't care the art direction isn't period-accurate. I care that it looks like shit
>>216997556Nolan is back!!! Yay!!! Another masterpiece is coming!!! Forget that Oppenheimer garbage!!
Nolan is a mixed bag these days but this shot is pretty sick.
>>217005854because it's the most colorful shot in the trailer lol
>>217005854eh
>>217003852>But historical armour pieces just fucking look good, they're often ready to go for mass rentals for movie productions, and you've already got a solid design to replicate if you need a decent baseline for your own costumes.It's possible that they're concerned about fatigue because that armor became so ubiquitous, such that it can be rented as you said. Earlier somebody referenced Troy stumbling financially because of "epic fatigue", a valid point, because I was there and I was fatigued. There is merit to stylization, to create something new and interesting. And having read Odyssey, it's more biblical/mystical than it is historically accurate, so there is plenty of room for interpretation. Nolan is one of the few directors who I'd think *might* make alterations for the sake of improving the product, not as a weird political statement. I just watched the trailer and didn't see any niggers, so maybe he's still got integrity.
>>217004766Tarantino enjoying the sunset of his life boning a jewess who'll let him do anal and jizz on her feet in exchange for his accounts when he kicks it.Not a bad way to go for a selfish fuck.
>>216998303It’s cherry-picked by Nolanjeets. Look at any other armor from the period and you’ll see if not kino, at least something with potential for novelty
>>216998412what the fuck
>>216998412This pic is the definition of soulless, anyone that thinks this is acceptable is a braindead NPC
>>216997556>Trojan armour in Nolan's The OdysseyGod damn, this movie gets dumber with every pic posted.
>>217003530Basedbois are okay with historical inaccuracy you dumb ape
Just watched the Trailer (didn't know it was out)Damn does this look troubled. God awful and outright bizarre choices in costumes and art direction, "diverse" modern NYC in ancient mythological Greece, generic Hollywood lighting clearly trying to command you to find a scene deep & important but we've all seen it a million times now. Yeesh.
>>216998090milk tequilas are fucking based and you're a knuckle-dragging coon-lipped bantustani nigger if you disagree
>>216998412>I guess Nolan is depicting the Trojans as a kind of grounded brutalist civilisationYou're giving him too much credit if you think Nolan pondered even for a single second the "kind" of civilization Troy was and how he'd communicate that visually
>>216998412>Set design: theme park antiquityThe columns are oversized, clean, modular. The stairs look like abstract ramps. The bronze horse reads like a Vegas casino centerpiece, not a religious object. It isn’t Mycenaean space meant to compress bodies and signal hierarchy. It’s museum-core built for IMAX walkways and insurance-safe choreography.>Staging: corporate ritualThe crowd is evenly spaced, all facing one way, arms up like a stadium wave. No social strata, guards, slaves, filth, animals, or power layers. It isn’t a mob or a cult. It’s a Marvel premiere audience cosplaying as peasants.>Camera: tourism god modeHigh, wide, detached, unobstructed. No occlusion, no bodies crossing lens. It’s drone-eye meant for thumbnails, not human POV. The Odyssey is disorienting and cruel. This is spectator seating.>Tone mismatchHomer is claustrophobic, dirty, superstitious, unfair. Gods whisper in dirt and dreams. This shot is bright, clean, brand-safe, instagrammable. Myth without dread.>Commercial intentTrailers need a frame that screams EPIC in 0.8 seconds. IMAX wants skyline scale. Global markets need instantly legible fantasy language. So the set exists to say: “ancient times happened here, please clap.”>Why it feels fakeIt’s not a mythic civilization. It’s a luxury mall cosplaying as Homer. Odysseus looks like he could buy a latte off-screen. The craft isn’t bad — the anthropology is.
>>217006885based
>>216998196>By not constraining himself with historical accuracy he can make even cooler armor for us all to enjoy>Makes the lamest, blandest, shittiest armor ever put on screenGreat work there Nolan.
>>217005854So they fucking drown the horse with their soldiers inside? How it supposed to make sense?
>>217007131why not make it like 300 where its same fake armors but made to be cool and epic instead.
>>217007659Nolan seems to have lost confidence and is copying denis basedmilk Villanueve
>>216998412They might CGI in the details maybe
>>217006885>>217006885>>Set design: theme park antiquityOnly the temple is a set. The rest is an actual location Aït Benhaddou that is neither brutalist nor minimalist.> No social strata, guards, slaves, filth, animals, or power layers. It isn’t a mob or a cult.In exactly another shot the guards are seen holding a mob of people in line.>Gods whisper in dirt and dreams. This shot is bright, clean, brand-safe, instagrammable.And in the shot of the soldiers inside the horse they're cramped, sweaty, dirty with some of them even partially drowning. We literally see the undead coming from inside the dirt in another shot.>ConclusionYou're a midwit who overrates his own intelligence who tried a laughable yt video essay tier analysis based on a single shot. Embarassing
>>217007834Lmao. Way to go.
>>217007834You’re arguing facts. The critique was about function.Yes, Ait Benhaddou is real. Yes, other shots have guards, sweat, dirt, undead, cramped soldiers. None of that changes what this flagship image is doing.Trailers don’t average a film. They establish a baseline ontology. This frame is the baseline.Look at what it communicates:• the temple dominates with impossible clean geometry• the plaza is flattened into a civic stage• the horse is framed as a heroic sculpture, not a threat• bodies are spaced for skyline readability• no enforced compression, no choke points, no visible exclusion zones• crowd arranged for spectacle, not terrorThat’s not “Benhaddou being Benhaddou.” That’s a real location being lit, graded, and blocked into a marketing tableau.Saying “but later there are guards and dirt” misses the point. If your defining image reads as:grand civic event with moral consensus crowdthen every grim insert has to fight upstream against that meaning.That’s why one shot matters. It isn’t a nitpick — it’s semiotics. This is the Trojan Horse. It should feel like the city is swallowing something it doesn’t understand. Instead it looks like a rally venue unveiling a public art piece.And no, a mob being corralled in a different shot doesn’t fix the absence of power geometry here. This plaza doesn’t encode hierarchy. It encodes legibility.This isn’t about “accuracy.” It’s about anthropological imagination. A civilization is not defined by whether there exists some dirt in the edit. It’s defined by what the studio chooses as its emblem.That emblem says: prestige spectacle, not mythic dread.
>>217007900>They establish a baseline ontology. This frame is the baseline.This is not from the trailer. It is from the IMAX prologue released in theaters(so not a shot that's meant to be a showcase/representative for the entire film) and I can tell for a fact that this shot won't be the representative of the film because most of it is shot on real locations, forts, etc...
>>217001681If you're making a movie with a $100M+ budget then your costumes should NOT look like theater clothes.
>>216997556>>216997903https://youtu.be/aM-TuFkUXEA?si=91DH8KbaIXatsVyH
>>217002562Can you name some of those movies? There's this really old, campy D&D-esque film I am trying to find, it's not from the actual D&D franchise so far as I can remember so I am always checking out these films hoping to find it.
>>216998196long extinct is your spermcount and your mom's pussy.
>>217006304Ai
The important thing with armor isn't how it looks.Can you hear the music of it?
>>216997556The design is extremely retarded, but the fact that they literally look like they're made of plastic -because they are- it's the saddest thing.
>>217008565To be fair at least they are not circumcised
>>217008531Lol
>>217008478nope
>>216997964AGREED.
>>217008071It's actual kino in motion, wtf
>>217008565>>217003852Art-designers trying to re-invent armor and weapons without understanding or knowing about actual real gear is always hilarious. We have literal thousands of years of armor history made by people killing each other, perfecting this over the centuries, and then some are hoe goes "um I can actually do better, chud!" and fumbles that shit every time.
>>217007721I love the optimism lil frognigger but unfortunately I don't think that is the case :(
>>217008630Demonflyingfox is a pioneer of using AI in videos. He's responsible for the Balenciaga Harry Potter vids a few years back. It seems he's on track to be the first "AI-Movie Director".
>>216998412>I guess Nolan is depicting the Trojans as a kind of grounded brutalist civilisation.Nigger retard actually reading that much more into it than "black armor for bad guys and white armor for good guys"Ameba brainers actually think it's about anything else with this retard
>>216997556Man Immortals may have been a dogshit film, but at least some of the costuming looked cool. The fuck is this?
>>216998022Wiluša is a real city and kingdom attested to in Hittite archives.
>>217009079>>216998022>https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/849/
>>216998196>if we look at it from an angle at which it is completely in the dark it kind of looks like this clipart recreation of black figure potteryIs this bait?Are you genuinely retarded?
>>216998412I got it: it is Dogme 95.
>>216998407>>217003559Troy: $497.4 million300: $456 millionMouthbreathing retards.
>>216997556Cheap plastic shit.Most wouldn't even have armor anyway.
>>216997556Historically accurate clothes, materials, armor, architecture and cultural representation is so much cooler and more interesting than modernized fantasy slop
>>216997556if i hadn't already dropped it over the golden spine retard armor, i would have dropped it for this. troy (2004) remains the patrician choice now and forever
>>217008531Really? Because I don't think algebra's like that at all. I think Christopher Nolan is actually just a hack writer.
>>216998196If it's full fantasy, why the compromise on religion and VFX hmmm? Jason and the Argonauts, hmmmm?
>>216998196The Greeks were caucasian, you fucking dumbass. LONG EXTINCT... Maybe true in five years.
>>216998196If shit movies like Prey can release a Lakota cut and if other films doing Shakespeare can go full Shakespearean dialogue while portraying characters in a mock modern day, like Coriolanus did. Then there is no reason outside bed wetting that Nolan can't do a Homeric cut as as well.
>>216998196Fantasy should look cool, not like some temu shit that got spray painted
>>216997556Literally every single aspect of this movie looks bad>terrible cast>terrible costumes>terrible sets>no color>bland shotsJust awful
>>217009459>>terrible castThis is what got me the most. No I will not go see Matt fucking Damon being Odysseus and fuck the casting director for trying.
>>216998196>speaking ancient Homeric Greek and played by actors who are part of a long extinct race. Don't be silly people.Do you want to know a secret? Linear B, the script used by the Mycenaeans, has been deciphered. They used it to write about the same fucking Gods worshiped in classical times in an ancestor of modern Greek
>>216998407no it wasnt. Average hollywood slop. Also I hated Orlando's character so much, cowardly weak and still survived.
>>216998412the trojan horse looks like it could fit 5 people in it tops.
Is anybody here aware that trailers and production stills released 6 months prior to a film feature lots of footage that won't be used and unfinished effects?
>>216998196>you should also want the characters to be speaking ancient Homeric Greekyes
>>217004766that's how i learned dano is an antizionist
>>217009265You should just get the right mindset for this movie. Imagine that it is a film adaptation of Graham Hancock /Assassin's Creed theories about some ancient advanced civilization.
>>217009502It was always cool to me that Athena is an older goddess, being Astarte who is also Ishtar, who also Inanna, transplanted into the pantheon by the Greeks out of popularity and that Aphrodite wasn't even a God, she was a Titan who changed sides and was allowed to keep her status.
>>217006885Thanks ChatGPT.
I simply avoid anything from the late obama period or latersaves me a ton of time and effort and disappointment
>>217009192Nolan is too dumb to be brechtian
>>217004641>photo trickerySo... a movie?
>>217005854>let's make it as hard as possible for the Trojans to bring the key element of our plan into their city.
>>216997903I mean, Nolan made the correct call. Watch a documentary if you are so upset.
>>217009929Isn't Dionysus the oldest god they worshiped?
>>217003418This is true. The Most Holy Trinosophia (written by Freemasons) revealed that the Freemasons deliberately orchestrated things since at least the mid-1800s. Le Comte de St Germain was some engima Hermeticist bullshitter who trolled his way into their courts and played a double agent for like five countries at the same time. He baited them with a fake potion of immortality and never told them how to make it, just to fuck with them even more. He assisted them in orchestrating the French Revolution, which led to his arrest and presumed death. The last surviving thing of his was The Holy Trinosophia, which was a letter he wrote to someone while in the French prisons. It detailed a bunch of philosophical symbolism, and was only transcribed by some Ascended Master from the Great White Brotherhood aka The Invisible Brotherhood of Christ. This sounds ludicrous, I know, and wikijews claim it's a hoax. But the Freemasons swear the truth of this up and down, despite the fact that it is horribly disparaging for them.
>>217010008>DionysusIt's a toss up, ancient Egypt lasted long enough to have archeologists dedicated to studying "Ancient Egypt" in their time and Innana had a temple at the city of Uruk known then as Eanna. That's pretty fucking old because both Athena and Dionysus are pre-Egyptian transplants.
>>217003418>>217010105Anyways I forgot to say the point. Talk about burying the lede. What I forgot to conclude, was that is also historical fact that they also had their hands in orchestrating the assassination of Franz Ferdinand II. As well, the Norman Dodd Report to the Comittee on Foundations (1954? 56? something around there) confirmed Fraternal societies and "charitable" foundations are typically lead by groups attempting to orchestrate and consolidate power through seemingly philanthropic business practices (ala Freemasonry, the Carnegies, etc.). Did you know it's illegal to claim to be a fraternal member? Weird. I don't remember a branch of government specifically being designated for faggots who peddle buildings older than modern society itself as their own. There are many strange things about the habits of these jew golem.
>>217009929>being Astarte who is also Ishtar, who also Inannawhere do you get that from?
oh its the stargate schizo
>>217010264I don't know as to whom you mean ITT. You seem like a petulant weasel, speaking so cowardly and vaguely. Prevarication is the language of the Hebrew.
>>216998022>trojans are not realLol virgin outed himself
>>216997903Nolan haters be like>why didn't he make the armor look gay and retarded??
>>217003004Troy was discovered by a crazy archeologist in the 20th century
>>217010422It already looks gay and retarded. I could genuinely ask any random gay black retard with Down's Syndrome and a coupon book for Hobby Lobby to make me historically accurate costumes for an adaptation of the Odyssey, and it would still look better than those fucking costumes. Those are cheap, colorless, bland, and lacking culture. They lack any sense of style or purpose, outside of servicing as vague silhouettes for a scene. How much did this movie cost? It looks like he went into the fucking desert and shot some scenes with Spirit Halloween suits, but only after he was allowed to paint them all grey and black. GET IT? LIKE BATMAN, except the suits have zero detail, and inspire disinterest in audiences.
>>217010233Inanna is literally the Sumerian name for the goddess who is known as Ishtar in Akkadian mythology, the concept of Athena directly comes from that goddess through cultural exchange in Mesopotamia of antiquity. Ishtar is also linked with Isis as a concept in Egypt and Osiris has ties with Dionysus in the same way. These ancient civilizations within that specific area, all orbit the same ideas adding their own flair over time. Like how Set wasn't originally evil during the old Kingdom lore and how Set and the older god concept of Seth sort of co-mingle to become an Egyptian boogeyman later on.
>>216998303>t. socially autistic Tel Aviv muslim living in Canada
>>216997964>this movie has no identity at all.checks out, neither did tenet
>>217010579>concept of Athena directly comes from that goddess through cultural exchange in Mesopotamia of antiquitysays who? how are they similar? why did they change her name?>Osiris has ties with Dionysus in the same wayother than the fact that both gods died in some way, what else do they have in common? people always say stuff like that but the greek gods and religion are nothing like the egyptian ones.
>>217010626Damn. NTA. Maybe the boomers are right. I'm a zoomer and I hate that I have to admit none of you people fucking read. What are you, pushing 30 now like me? Grow up, you fucking retard. Stop playing video games, and smoking pot, and watching youtube videos. Read about the actual history of the Earth in a book that isn't curated in bulletpoints on wikipedia, and isn't hardcover propaganda for high schoolers. Read an actual book, man. You can't discuss what you haven't done any research on. You should be old enough to already comprehend this fact of life.
>>217010713you said nothing. and reading from a wiki is what he did. so tell me you well read one since you seem to agree with him, how is athena similar to ishtar?
>>217002797I still laugh at how in a fucking historic biopic about a scientist and project director, he gave the man an epic 'suit up' scene after Isidor Rabi said stop wearing the army uniform. Hard cut to Oppenheimer but on a suit and his hat with EPIC FUCKING MUSIC Y'ALL blasting.
>>217010782Due diligence is required in order for an intellectual opponent to honestly disagree. You, sir, are a degenerate who needs to read a book. You type like a legitimate hood nigger. I feel bad for you. That's why I tried to impart upon you my advice. I don't care to handhold a grown man who is quite possibly my age or even older than me. You don't need to be placated, faggot. You need to be self-reliant and research subject matter on your own. It's not anyone else's responsibility if you don't understand the subject matter well-enough to discuss it. What you're querying of me here is like asking a nigger if jazz exists.
>>216997964It doesn’t help that Nolan’s “style” is identical to AI slop. I can go on YouTube and look up an 80s Dark Fantasy of LotR and it’ll look identical to the trailer we were given.
>>217010867Dunkirk proved he can't do historic epics
>>217010889What *can* he do? How did this guy become so popular if he’s a shitty director?
>>217010233nowhere, its an assumption based on comparative mythology (i.e. chaoskampf/great flood etc.). they share in the same archetypes at most
>>217010902You have to be eighteen or older to post on this website.
>>217010913which AI model ran that group of farcical details up for you?
>>217010925I’m 35 years old and was at OSU when Inception was in theaters.
>>217009937>the idea of anyone typing more than one paragraph is so foreign to zoomers they assume everything is chatgptYou guys are, how do you call it? Cooked.
>>217009459>>217010507Midwits who overrate their own intellect amd are devoid of taste. Faggots kys.
>>217010946You're so cool for posting such an ingenious joke, then. It was really very clever, and you pranked me hard. I believe you, now.
>>217010902It's not that he's offensively shit but he gets glazed in a way that is totally out of proportion with the products he often produces. The creative autistic X factor isn't there. I, like most fucking people, like TDK but the sterility of Gotham City is an aspect even people that really worship the movie can concede. Now apply that to the fucking Odyssey or depicting the Dunkirk Evacuation and it becomes too bothersome and offensive to ignore. Nolan is not this gigabased autist except insofar as always resisting CGI even when common sense dictates he should embrace it and it WON'T make the product the same as Marvel green screen slop. Dunkirk as a whole, the wet fart of a bomb in Oppenheimer, etc. These things were actively harmed by anti-CGI autism
>>216998196>durr it's accurate because of this potterylowest of iqs
>>217010913>Transformation of a Goddess: Ishtar – Astarte – Aphrodite, by David T. Sugimoto
>>217010988Midwit
>>217010988Did jeets seriously lap up Oppenheimer because it starred TOMMEH FOOKIN SHELBY himself? Probably more to it than that like the STEMcel jeets projecting themselves and the grind onto Oppy
>>217010979Nice save. I will now watch old men with botox playing around in the sand; wearing minimalistic, cheap suits of plastic and polyester.
>>217011027That's cute. Where'd they shoot it? Cape Canaveral?
>>217011051You flatter yourself. This film doesn't need you to succeed.
>>217010782I think he is just extending the cultural exchange rule of Greece to Rome like Mars is essentially Ares. It seems like pagans seem to adopt stuff from another like the Jesus type Demi-god has similar figures all over the place even in Persia
>>217011069That's adorable retard. It is in fact in Dunkirk.
>>217011027>>217010986I’m beginning to realize you might actually be brown. Maybe a Jeet? But as others have pointed out, browns are obsessed with Nolan’s work.
>>217011085You're absolutely It needs about 70 million more individuals to pay for tickets, if it wants to succeed.
>>217011108You're talking to two different people retard.
>>217011027Isolated shot. Nothing in the movie as a whole worked to indicate a few hundred thousand men were present, Dunkirk the town wasn't a smoking ruin, there was fuck all of a Royal Navy presense when evacuated because they only had one le Destroyer and how dare you use CGI to create doubles, etc. and the characters (especially the Tommies grounded on the beach for a week) were dreadful - not an ounce of gallows humour anywhere which is what such people are known for. And yes I'd say cinematically it was shit to not convey a sense of chaos adjacent to what they showed in the movie Atonement (middling movie though). The whole 'the ENEMY is coming' shit also fell flat because despite the premise of it being a ticking clock there was never anything to indicate they are coming like the sounds of war in the distance (them vs. rearguard actions) growing progressively louder and more violent. I saw the movie in theatres for fuck's sake and found it extremely underwhelming and sterile and that was all downstream from Nolan's own creative choices
>>217011115And it will. Like every other Nolan movie.
>>217011100Who would have guessed? It's a fucking beach, you faggot moron.>>217011108Two different people. I was the second guy, but yeah I do live in Bangaladesh, from which I post from a dynamic IP with veepee ehn, sir? Sorry I do not shit give about the Dunkirk, sir!
>>217011134>Nothing in the movie as a whole worked to indicate a few hundred thousand men were present,There weren't. It was a weeks long operation and the beaches looked like this most of the time.
>>217011142Name 2 that have made over a billion and aren't tied to the most famous DC comic book character.
>>217011191Does it need to hit a billion to be successful? Nolan films always do on the higher end of the boxoffice for their genre. Opprmheimer is the highest grossing biopic btw.
>>217011225Oppenheimer isn't a biopic. A biopic is a biographical documentary. Oppenheimer is a dramatic reenactment. It belongs with History Channel slop from 2004.
>>217011225>>217011260And you cannot seriously believe that low DoF desert backgrounds, mid-shots, and plastic grey minimalistic suits of fake and gay armor will sell anywhere near Oppenheimer. Namesake is not nearly enough to carry a piece of paper with a circle drawn in the middle to a billy, let alone a couple milly.
he has 2 maybe 3 good films. Batman Begins, The Prestige and depending on the day, Interstellar. I saw inception few days ago, holy shit what an awful film that survives by editing its way through its flaws, no time to think about any of the garbage just fed to you, onto the next set piece. Lets dream, but dream within a dreams dream, that surely will not confuse and create stupid paradoxes
>>216998004>Search AssistThe archaeological site of Troy was discovered in 1870 by Heinrich Schliemann, who identified it based on descriptions from Homer's "Iliad." Located in northwest Turkey, the site has revealed multiple layers of ancient settlements, indicating a history of continuous occupation for over 4,000 years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy#Historical_Troyhttps://whc.unesco.org/en/list/849/
>>217010963It's literally formatted as a ChatGPT summary. You Boomers are cooked because you cannot detect AI and will give all you pension to an Indian using an AI voice to sound like your neighbor.
>>217011334Just wait until the normies hear of the Rupes Nigra. Now that'll be quite the day.
>>216997903It does look strange and weird, but that's because it is unknown to me. and after you get over it it looks normal, just like the whole story of odysseus. there is a cultural shock at first but it would disappear if you give it time. but hollywood is deathly afraid of this. everything has to look familiar and readable in 2 seconds to brown international masses>durrr this is the gladiator guy? oh he's greek gladiator or something ok! epic hans zimmer! this looks familiar so now I will watch your moviefucking bitch ass corporate slop afraid of anything new, only serving stereotypical established ossified formulaic shitnolan is a HACK!
