>eratosthenes
>>216999485The part of the cosmic calendar where he explains the age of the universe, planets, etc. is great.Or when he says that there are more stars in te universe than grain of sand on Earth.It blows your mind.
>>216999485He sounds like a Muppet, and I mean that in a neutral way
>>216999485Right wingers hate materialist philosophy because they believe that faith can overcome the real world and this faith is key to maintaining hierarchical class society. They criticize the faith of all except themselves as well and feel like there’s a god who will punish evil so they don’t have to do anything about it now other than virtue signal and impotently seethe. They hate a man like Sagan because the world to him was what can be measured and what existed outside of the mind and they despise this because every time people do this they reject their traditions and their academic speech confuses and frustrates them. They cannot comprehend there are people who are smarter than them who disagree with them and strawmen them and start calling them a tranny or comparing them to interracial porn because their minds are rotten and broken. It’s always a pity to see.
in retrospect, he was a big fag huh
never ask that guy to make an apple pie
>>216999485>PTOLEMAEUS
>>216999687Trvke
>>217000000wasted
>>217000000Dude, what the hell? We were planning something based in the avatar discord for this get
>>217000000checked
>>216999687This isn't a long post, but somehow it is still a slog to read. Commies are cursed to be dweebs.
>>216999687science can be its own religion too, take the vax
>>216999600His explanation of how to contemplate about higher number of dimensions is also very simple and on point.
>"...he knew this because he paid a man to pace out the distance between Alexandria and Syene"Imagine being paid to go hiking. The ancients had it so fucking easy
>>216999687Sagan is no way a materialist. Deeply spiritual person in his own right.
will this thing run in a blue-ray player?
>>217000780yup"Atthe time of writing there are three claims in the ESP field which, inmy opinion, deserve serious study: (1) that by thought alonehumans can (barely) affect random number generators in computers; (2) that people under mild sensory deprivation can receivethoughts or images 'projected' at them; and (3) that youngchildren sometimes report the details of a previous life, whichupon checking turn out to be accurate and which they could nothave known about in any other way than reincarnation. "by the way there actually does seem to be evidence of the first two claims at least
>>217000685Secular religion is a problem and it’s a product of the anti-soviet Frankfurt school just like queer theory and other nonsense. What you need to understand is real philosophical development peaked in the 50s and has stagnated since this point. The interests of powers that be have rejected dialectical materialism because it’s conclusion is true communism and as far back as Kruschev this was being rejected because of its conclusions which would be the final abolition of class hierarchy in perpetuity.
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>>217000860Neither of these reject materialism in of itself as there could easily be quantum mechanics that would facilitate the exchange of information through these methods. It’s something worthy of study, epigenitcs was thought to be similar pseudoscience for a ling time but turned out to be true.
>>217000812ERERERERLike a rhinestone cowbo-bo-boy
>>217000860Remote viewing is real, the CIA declassified documents about it a few years ago. I haven’t worked out how to do it, but it’s a real phenomenon.
https://youtu.be/3kK_HGNOo9Aeven the music kicked ass
>>217000873>the final abolition of class hierarchy in perpetuityexcept for the ruling class, big brother will always own you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc&list=RDzSgiXGELjbc&start_radio=1>I'm not very good at, uh, singing songs but, uh, here's a try>WHOOP>BUH
>>217000944could you explain how quantum mechanics allows the nonlocal exchange of information? I thought that was something it explicitly didn't do, a misconception or misunderstanding about entanglement.don't understand qm well myself so feel free to correct me.
>>216999687>>217000873>flat earth tier marxist pseudoscienceYou should be fucking embarrassed for existing.>leninRemember when he tried to abolish currency leading to mass starvation and extreme poverty?Do you believe in base and superstructure too? LOL
>>217001002https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk
>>217001005>quotes a novel written by a guy who’s experience with authoritarian rule was seeing firsthand the colonial administration of Burma and by his own admission wasn’t even about socialism
>>217001145The one I posted >>217001066 is better plus I got dubs
>>217001177who will make sure the classeless state runs smoothly? who has authority? by what means is authority maintained?
>>217001092The difficulty in something like a random number generator is randomness in general is virtually impossible to create and requires a lot of advanced math theorems to even begin to replicate which is in line with the materialist understanding of the world as forces and matter interacting with eachother in a logically consistent way. Any number of minor things like the presence of human electrical energy from neurons could easily alter these sensitive and complex computer operations on a quantum level. As for the memories part, I brought up epigenetics for this exact point as past traumas can potentially manifest genetically through this process.
eratosthenes nuts
>>217001252The People™Some people are more equal than others
>>217001102Lenin successfully electrified the feudal Russian Empire in 5 years when parts of the United States wouldn’t be electrified until decades later in the 40s.
>>217001177>UHHH WHATABOUTRemember when socialism turned Burma into an authoritarian poverty stricken shithole, and when they got rid of socialism they did a lot better?Also there was zero intervention by muh CIA in this case(and most cases lol).>>217001252Why the vanguard party of course :)They always have our best interests in mind, are never corrupt and magically know how to centrally plan the economy without pesky market prices.
>>217001252Self management through democratic centralism. The most total and complete democracy ever created on earth.
>>217001344> and when they got rid of socialism they did a lot better?They have been in perpetual civil war and ethnic sectarian conflict ever since. They also never had much more than a left nationalist government and nothing resembling proper socialist governance.
>>217001325No he didn't lmaoAlmost all of the development in the USSR happened due to massive capitalist investments from the west. This was primarily done during lenin after he realized actual socialism/central planning(war communism) was a massive failure, so he created the NEP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWWqhsh848E>feudal Russian EmpireIt was already one of the most industrialized nations on earth you pathetic liar.Why do you tankies even exist? You're brainwashed to fight against your own economic and social interests.You support your own enslavement lol>>217001348>Self management through democratic centralism.So other people you don't even know get to completely monopolize everything including your own life?Imagine being so retarded you think the state monopolizing everything will somehow give you a better life.>>217001390>They have been in perpetual civil war and ethnic sectarian conflict ever since.Funny how even civil wars result in higher living standards than outright socialism lmao
>>217001348are there any real world examples?
>>217001348>Self management through democratic centralismSo a one party state with no human rights?Why would you want no right to your own finances and personal autonomy?
>>217001475Yeah north korea today and pol pot's Cambodia(funded and influenced by Mao).That's unironically what this brainwashed sperg is advocating for.
>>216999687>IMG_
Carl Sagan, right now, at this very second.He has been in this state for the past 29 years.And he went be in this state for every second for the rest of eternity.
>>216999687Marxism isn't a materialist philosophy.They don't even believe in evolution or human instincts and instead believe all human behavior is an economic construct.It's embarrassingly retarded pseudoscience.
>>217001455The Russian Empire in 1905 had less industrial output than Massachusetts and it was almost entirely light industry owned by foreign companies. Nice CIAslop channel btw, the actual NEP was implemented because there wasn’t capitalism production to socialize like the west in Tsarist Russia, so the NEP was the solution to this which was phased out a decade later. Keep in mind this was literally the first time in history communism was being tried and they were actively figuring things out as they went, but once it was figured out it made the USSR the most industrial nation on earth behind the US within 20 years. They were advancing faster than they even planned by the time the 2nd and 3rd 5 year plans were implemented.
>>217001475Good video on the subject: https://youtu.be/2_mxyniU7q4
>>217001571Evolution and instinct are both products of material conditions over countless generations. Without material dialectic evolution is impossible.
Just hopping in to tell everyone here that materialism is false and believing in determinism or compatibilism is weak mind behavior.
>>217001598By 1913, Russia was the world's 5th largest industrial economy. You people just fucking lie constantly.>CIAsloplmao classic tankie religious cultists claiming any research into the soviet union that doesn't support it must be muh CIA.As if this CIA is this magic mind control machine kekEverything in that video is 100% true.Why would lenin have abandoned war communism(actual fucking central planning) if it was working?Obviously it was a colossal failure so he had to switch to markets, like any intelligent marxist would(see china and vietnam)> the actual NEP was implemented because there wasn’t capitalism production to socialize like the west in Tsarist RussiaWhy did't lenin realize this before he implemented war communism in the first place? lol>was phased out a decade later.The massive capitalist investments weren't. They continued throughout Stalin's time and beyond.Lend lease happened under stalin.The USSR didn't industrialize on it's own, almost all of this came from capitalist investment.>but once it was figured out it made the USSR the most industrial nationAfter the USSR fell it was discovered they were much less industrialized than they said they were. They mainly produced industrial goods like concrete and steel while the USA was producing computer chips.>They were advancing faster than they even plannedMany capitalist nations like Japan and Taiwan outpaced them.>>217001680>dude just give all power to a one party state monopolyWhy are you such a cuck that you don't want personal autonomy and the right to manage your own finances?>>217001718>Evolution and instinct are both products of material conditions over countless generations.They have nothing to do with material conditions(in the marxist sense). Biologists laugh at you people.You don't even accept humans HAVE biological instincts, making you flat earth creationist retards.>material dialecticActual pseudoscience with zero predictive validity.
>>217001325In 1920, Lenin publicly described nationwide electrification as a “long-term task” that would take “at least ten years” and explicitly said the plan’s main objectives could not be achieved in less than ten years.So “successfully electrified in 5 years” contradicts Lenin’s own description of the project.
>>216999687If this were true communists would all be TND advocating hyper-eugenicists instead of turd world biomass and troon maxxing in order to cause fall of rome tier societal dysfunction in otherwise functional societies. Sagan was a hypocritical jewish libtard just like every commie faggot
>>217000975I wish there was a QRD on this, I tried to look into it a while ago but everyone making videos/blogs about it was either a new-ager or simply insane.I can't be assed to read the files, I've got kino to watch.
>>217001929They did better than they anticipated that’s how good shit worked.
>>217001481You had every right to your finances in the USSR. In theory you wouldn’t be able to own a business where others worked because then it would all collectively own it, but in practice there were loopholes to this which eventually destroyed the USSR in the latter years.
>>217001974Capitalist nations after ww2 electrified and developed faster.As technology knowledge becomes available, it's obviously easier to implement
>>217002022In the early ussr? In maoist china? Hell no.The idea is to abolish money, right?That can only be done through statist force
>>217001832Ah I see, you’re going off the google ai answer that all it’s sources are reddit or YouTube. Here’s an oxford source that breaks it down and tldr; no: the Russian Empire was stagnating and falling behind all the manor powers through the 19th and into the early 20th centuries https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/catching-and-falling-behind-russian-economic-growth-1690s-1880s>why didn’t they do it originally Because Lenin fucked that up and it was fixed>wasn’t phased out under StalinYes it was. If you’re talking about trade then this continued on a 1 to 1 basis and never allowed for private ownership of land or resources directly within the USSR>Japan and TaiwanNeither even remotely as massive as the USSR>one-party state monopoly Capital has this today in every capitalist economy. >the other stuffBullshit but I’ll go find more sources for that bear with me
>>216999485>The sky calls to us. And if we do not destroy ourselves, we'll one day, venture to the stars. >A still more glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise but a galaxy-rise. A morning filled with 400 billion suns: The rising of the Milky Way.>Science is not only compatible with spirituality, it is a profound source of spirituality.>We can judge our progress by the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers, our willingness to embrace what is true rather than what feels good.I miss him, bros. At least when I'm opening his books, he can talk to my mind as if he was still alive.
>>217002371yeah but he isn't really, he's dead and you'll never see him again. don't fool yourself
>>216999485>greek man calculated the size of the earth by measuring some shadows hundreds of years before the birth of christ>today right wingers debate whether the earth is roundwhere did it all go wrong?
>>217001562I thought zoomers larping as hardcore christians was out for at least 2 years now?
>>217002062Socialism is the transitory state where the state is still necessary to develop the productive forces and organization needed for communism. The problem is the constructive process was stopped by the Kruschevite coup in the 50s which had global reverberations for the socialist movement.
>>217002417larping?
>>217002028Who laid those foundations? And why did it struggle to reach so many the third world countries? Those that did to varying degrees like India had assistance from the USSR.
>>217002417This thread has /his/ crossboarders for sure in it and there are schizos there who never stop posting this stuff.
>>217002389>What an astonishing thing a book is. It's a flat object made from a tree with flexible parts on which are imprinted lots of funny dark squiggles. But one glance at it and you're inside the mind of another person, maybe somebody dead for thousands of years. Across the millennia, an author is speaking clearly and silently inside your head, directly to you. Writing is perhaps the greatest of human inventions, binding together people who never knew each other, citizens of distant epochs. Books break the shackles of time. A book is proof that humans are capable of working magic.Reading a book and realizing that the thoughts of the author are now inside your head, doesn't mean that one starts to forget that the person is dead. I really thought I didn't need to explain what a kindergartener easily gets.
>>217002507sounds pretty gay senpai
>>217002318>that all it’s sources are reddit or YouTubeNah, if you're doing research like this it looks for academic studies, books, official soviet documents etc. and actually provides the link.But cry about it I guess.>the Russian Empire was stagnating and falling behind all the manor powers through the 19th and into the early 20th centurieslmao no shitNobody said they were the best, we just say they were quite industrialized for the time.They were the 5th most industrialized nation on earth with a system of railroads etc.It's you tankies that lie and pretend russia was akin to fucking africa at the time in terms of development.>Because Lenin fucked that upJust like he fucked everything up.Glad you actually admit that though. Rare glint of humanity for a tankie.>Yes it was.A lot of it was but the technological transfers and capitalist investments(for profit) weren't.It was funny that rich western capitalists were allowed to own private property in the ussr while the people weren't.Do some research:https://web.archive.org/web/20210518104623/https://ia801203.us.archive.org/5/items/Parts13/55437228-2-Western-Technology-and-Soviet-Economic-Development-1930-1945-1971.pdfhttps://web.archive.org/web/20210518104634/https://ia801203.us.archive.org/5/items/Parts13/55435162-3-Western-Technology-and-Soviet-Economic-Development-1945-1965-1973.pdf>as massive asand this matters why? Shouldn't the living standards of the average person be more important?>Capital has this todayLast time I checked there are tens of millions of businesses all competing.There is not one single capitalist or company that owns everything, therefor not a monopoly."monopolization by a class" is not a real thing
>>217002431>Socialism is the transitory state where the state is still necessary to develop the productive forces and organization needed for communism.lmao they were never going to achieve communism because actual communism is fucking impossible.You don't make the state wither away by creating a massive totalitarian slave state.>>217002458>And why did it struggle to reach so many the third world countries?Because those third world countries were either socialist themselves or extremely interventionist. The ones that developed the most were the ones that liberalized their economies the most.>India had assistance from the USSR.India was a poverty stricken shithole until a TINY amount of market reforms in the 90s.>>217002479Marxism is laughed off /his/.It's pseud bullshit for clowns.
>>217001598>The Russian Empire in 1905 had less industrial output than Massachusettslol I fucking love AIA careful historical estimate of the gross value of industrial output for the Russian Empire (excluding Finland, and excluding some categories like repair shops/logging/fishing) puts total industrial output in 1905 at 5,527 million rubles.Massachusetts’ official statistics for 1905 put the total value of goods made by manufacturing establishments at $1,098,751,900.To compare in the same currency: under the pre-WWI gold standard, the ruble’s parity was about $0.51 per ruble (the “gold ruble”).So Russia’s 1905 industrial output ≈ 5,527 million rubles × $0.51 ≈ $2.8 billion, versus Massachusetts ≈ $1.1 billion.Even allowing for imperfect comparability (different reporting systems, what’s included/excluded), the direction is clear: Russia’s industrial output was not smaller than Massachusetts’ by this kind of gross-output measure—it’s multiple times larger on the same rough dollar basis.Bonus point: 1905 was a politically chaotic year (revolution, strikes). If anything, it’s a year where Russian output was suppressed relative to trend—yet it still doesn’t support the “Massachusetts bigger than Russia” line.
>>217002546> Nah, if you're doing research like this it looks for academic studiesOk now I know you’re trilling, you can literally click it’s links to expand them>broken links and paywallsNice sophistry, give something I can actually analyze and we can continue like adults >the free market sophistry Pic related, they share over 80-90% of shareholders btw
>>217002666Tbh that statistic might have been a specific metric like steel output, there was a table going around years ago i have since lost. But even your figure shows a US state was comparable to continental spanning empire
>>216999485He couldn't bring himself to say our bodies are made of the ashes and dust from exploded supernova so he made up the extremely gay term "star stuff"
>>217002696>you can literally click it’s links to expand themYes, and they're all academic studies and well sourced data.>broken linksIf they were broken, an LLM can't access and read them.Also internet archive exists.>paywallslmao so you don't know about sci-hub?>give something I can actually analyzeAlmost everything tankies like yourself spew online is a massive gish gallop of lies that require deep reading to debunk. You people have poisoned the minds of impressionable low IQ retards on reddit and tiktok with this nonsense.Now you're complaining I'm doing the same(but actually being factually correct)?>sophistrythe ironing>Pic related,Those are just a few brands owned by several conglomerates, who are actually competing with each other anyway."The exact number of U.S. businesses varies by definition (employer vs. non-employer), but recent estimates place the total number of small businesses around 33-34.7 million (including non-employers), while total employer firms are closer to 6-8 million, with most being very small (under 20 employees). For instance, the SBA reported 34.75 million small businesses in 2024, with 62.3 million small business employees, showing the vast majority are small, often with few or no employees. ">>217002729>But even your figure shows a US state was comparable to continental spanning empireNot really comparable, russia was almost 3x as big in terms of output.That's not a "backwater agrarian feudal shithole" as you guys constantly state.Also, USA was the most industrialized country on earth(due to their free markets) with the highest living standards for workers.No wonder a single state(one of the most populous) in the usa had high economic output.
>>217002815Dude you use AI to tell you real world information on this stuff and can’t even spell irony right. Are you Indian? And 3 times the output of Massachusetts for a country with 9million square miles and over 100x the population is abysmal, there’s absolutely no wiggling out if that.
>>217002564>Marxism is laughed off /his/./his/ is also one of the lowest IQ boards on the site, on par with /pol/
>>216999687Nigger I'm an ecofascist I believe in evolution and I believe my people are simply genetically and socially superior.
>>217002948>Dude you use AI to tell you real world information on this stuff and can’t even spell irony right.jesus christ bro,You just outed yourself as a redditor lmaohttps://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/ironing/>And 3 times the output of Massachusetts for a country with 9million square miles and over 100x the population is abysmal,For the time?Fuck no.Almost all of the world wasn't industrialized. Russia was the 5th most industrialized nation and had a railroad system with lots of factories.Why do you retards act like they were africa tier or something?Lenin actually had something to work with when he started, it wasn't a "backwater agrarian feudal shithole" as you guys constantly state.>wiggling outlook at your posts in this thread>>217002981It's actually one of the highest IQ boards.That's why they regularly debunked /pol/ takes as well as commie ones.Cope and seethe.
>>217002981Marxism is laughed off of /sci/ as well.Imagine thinking dialectical materialism describes reality.
>>217003091>links a ton of posts he made of his forced meme and calls you a redditor>lenin had something to work withA few naval yards, textile mills and a ton of miners and peasants >actually calling /his/ high iq in the big 2025Let me guess, Anne Frank poster will show up soon with their garbage takes too next right?>>217003117Out of curiosity I had to check and indeed that board is still constantly bragging about their iq scores and doing nothing productive lmao
>>217002981which board do you consider high iq? asking so's i can cross reference their opinion on Marxism
>>216999485he influenced faggots like brian cox and le black science man, truly a disgrace
>>217003387/mlp/, /a/, /h/
>>217003340>of his forced memeHAHA What the fuck? This meme has been around since 2010 and was on every single board with tens of thousands of posts. Just check the archive.You ARE a redditor and coping about it. Just take the L.>A few naval yards, textile millsAnd railroads, as well as:"""One clean way to see it: in the standard branch breakdown used by economic historians, the Empire had large employment shares in clearly “heavy”/upstream sectors (fuels, metals, chemicals, construction materials) alongside textiles and food. For example, in 1900 (close to the 1905 claim), fuels and ferrous metals alone account for a meaningful share of industrial workers, and there are additional heavy-ish branches beyond that.And by the pre-war period (which is still the same industrial system built in the late-Tsarist era), sectoral output tables show big chunks in fuel, metals, electric power stations, and chemicals—i.e., not “almost entirely light industry.”So: Russia absolutely had a major textile and food sector (true), but the claim that it was “almost entirely” light industry is just not consistent with the sectoral data."""">>actually calling /his/ high iq in the big 2025I mean they are. For starters they know that marxism is a pseud religious cult filled with contradictions. Imagine believing in base and superstructure and then claiming you aren't retarded.>Out of curiosity I had to check and indeed that board is still constantly bragging about their iq scores>seething about a bunch of people far more intelligent than you>doing nothing productiveThey all have high paying jobs. They go on /sci/ to fuck around and talk about interesting complex topics.
>>216999485Wtf was he thinking?
>>217003642i swear that's some video game developer logo at the bottom
