Am I stupid?The first time I watched season 1, 2, and 3 of the "Fargo" TV series I probably grasped none of the deeper meanings described below.Season 1: (a) Humans are animals: just another aspect of the natural world, but with reason this time. This season shows how the various characters are various animals: predators and prey, failures and winners, rare and common. (b) Cosmic forces or random chance result in a force of nature / an apex predator / a wolf (Malvo) causing all of the events of this season. Lorne Malvo crashed because deer ran into the road, and he ended up in the city or town where the characters he interacted with are.Season 2: (a) People are drawn to their fate by cosmic forces (or random things). Some are puppets and others are more so in control. The color blue and the UFO sightings (also blue-themed) are representative of this. The color red is representative of not being so bound by fate = more in control. (b) Failure of communication results in things happening.Season 3: (a) Uncertainty and confusion is prevalent throughout. Until more closely observed, things are in a superposition of both true and false, existent and non-existent, dead and alive, etc. Important things are left inconclusive or undetailed. Who really is V.M. Varga? What was his fate? What was the thing at the beginning in East Germany about? (b) Do things happen due to cosmic forces or due to randomness? I think there's more to it than that, but this season is probably the most "postmodern".Am I stupid for not realizing these deeper meanings on first watching these seasons? Did you see them after your first watch?
I got those ideas from these videos:The Essence Of The Coen Brothers In FARGO Season 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEDFHZxywLwhttps://inv1.nadeko.net/watch?v=fEDFHZxywLwThe Blue Light Theory Of FARGO Season 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5k582tqqUohttps://inv2.nadeko.net/watch?v=c5k582tqqUoThe Uncertainty Of FARGO Season 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUSh76eQXE8https://inv3.nadeko.net/watch?v=iUSh76eQXE8
>Season 3>What was the thing at the beginning in East Germany about?Wikipedia:>In East Berlin, 1988, a man is falsely accused of the murder of Helga Albrecht, committed by "Yuri Gurka", because the men lived at the same address at different times.or>In 1988, in East Berlin, Jakob Ungerleider is interrogated by Colonel Horst Lagerfeld, inside what appears to be a basement. Ungerleider is accused of being a man named Yuri Gurka who murdered his girlfriend. Jakob claims it is a case of mistaken identity, as he is married and his wife is alive. Lagerfeld becomes more aggressive and threatens and forces Jakob to "tell the truth."That small part at the start of season 3 is similar to the events of season 3. Also, Yuri Gurka = the same Yuri who is an employee of Varga?
Yeah. Fuck this gay dimeless shit and go watch The Shield instead
>>217007043I'm not insulting this show for being highbrow, just wondering if I'm negative IQ in my initial understanding of it. What do other viewers think?
>>217007013Furthermore:>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Law_of_Vacant_Places>Vinnie Mancuso of the New York Observer analysed the opening scene, set in 1988 in East Berlin, stating "In its third year Fargo is going to exist more than ever in the murky gray [...], 'truth' and 'story', trudging plow-like through the foothills between a truth, your truth and the truth. Which makes it all the more appropriate that when Fargo: Year 3 arrives now, 2017, a period plagued with “alternative facts” and “fake news,” it does so not with the grace of a UFO but with all the subtly [sic] of an air conditioner falling on your head." Exploring the idea further, he added "Ray isn’t dangerous because he’s naturally a criminal, or because he’s violent. He’s dangerous because of that malleable idea of the 'truth', his truth, a vision of a future-to-be that so consumes Ray Stussy he’s willing to do anything to make it a reality."
>>217007086I don't care, nigga. Turn this gay Fargo shit off.
>>217006740Then there's the amazing themes of Season 4 and 5.Season 4: Wypipo bad.Season 5: Men bad, conservatives bad, libertarians bad.
>>217007192I laughed. Years ago I watched the first episode of season 4 then quit: was pretty sure it was going to be dumb ideas. Recently I was thinking of skipping season 4 and watching season 5. I watched all of neither seasons so far.
>>217007192>>217007289I watched the first 2 episodes of season 4 and got like 5 minutes into episode 3 and concluded that I didn't like any of the characters, I didn't care about the story, and the writing was shit compared to the earlier seasons. I gave season 5 an even better chance, I got through a full 4 episodes and then concluded that I didn't like the characters, the story and the writing was still shit.They're not worth your time. Noah Hawley just doesn't have it any more. I watched his new Alien series, the whole thing and the writing on it was just terrible. I honestly don't understand how the same guy who made the first 3 seasons of Fargo has managed to go off the rails so hard; but he's been a complete hack since 2020.
I mostly rewatched seasons 1 through 3 over the past year(s). Varga recited this nursery rhythm, which is related to or representative of his character:There once was a crooked manWho walked a crooked mileAnd found a crooked sixpenceAgainst a crooked stileHe bought a crooked catWho caught a crooked mouseAnd they all lived togetherIn a crooked little houseAttached image: based Varga disliking spics / border hoppers.
>>217007421I see. I usually don't quit watching shit even if I know it's shit. If I start it I finish it. But maybe this time I'll actually do something better with my life than wasting time watching stupid TV show episodes.
>>217007521I generally watch things to the finish too. I really enjoyed the first 3 seasons of Fargo so I gave the 4th and 5th seasons a fair amount of leeway; but like I said I got halfway into the series and I just didn't care about any of the characters or the story enough to finish the season.I guess his Alien series at least managed to keep my attention; but it kept its most retarded writing for the last two episodes. So even though I watched the whole thing I doubt I'm going to tune in for the next season. It had some interesting ideas; but the characters are just all idiots even the ones that are supposed to be geniuses. People die out of just absolute mind numbing stupidity on numerous occasions. At one point they put an extremely dangerous alien in a test tube that's apparently made out of normal glass since it shatters when it falls off a table. Like surely they could have come up with a smarter way for the alien to escape; but the writing is just lazy.
>>217006740V.m vargaThe v.m stands for virtual machine. He was a robot
>>217006906better quality image
>>217007642true
>>217007449>based Varga
>>217007097Some anons thoughts on that:https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/204072733/#204073402
Vargaposting before this thread ends
>>217008273>>217008290
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/84046133/>*picks teeth*>>Mister Stusssssy>>Have you ever considered the inevitability of our pecuniary reality? The endless inverted ascent into heaven with millions, or hell, with billions. The big banks, with their Jew lawyers and Jew executives and Jew janitors will fall, leaving all but one prosperous group standing at the summit of this filthy heap of detritus. And do you know, Mister Shtushy, who that is?>>*vomits profusely*>>The Kurds.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170502160613/http://www.vmvarga.com/
https://archive.is/2025.12.31-080031/https://web.archive.org/web/20171005235518/http://www.vmvarga.com/
*blocks your path**takes over your company*
>>217007979>One of Varga's goons had murdered his girlfriend and pinned it on an innocent man. It's why he appears to taken by ghosts when in the strange bowling alley.So "yes" on >>217007013>Yuri Gurka = the same Yuri who is an employee of Varga?Also:https://web.archive.org/web/20240910022456/https://antifandom.com/fargo/wiki/Yuri_Gurka
>>217008255>VargapostingTakes me back to late 2019:>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/121703496/#121708241>Ever notice the catalog is the same 20 memes spammed over and over, like Bane, Sneed, Soijack, Dubsguy, Boomer, Zoomer, Femjak, Black Femjak, Wojak, Mask, Deh, Robert/Kinoplex, Pepe, Apu, Soprano's (close the damn door, etc.), Dad's Google History, Dole Dippers, Jokerposting, Bobbyposting, Vargaposting, Vargposting, Those 2 rednecks who shot a guy. Anything I've missed?About this part:>Those 2 rednecks who shot a guy.I'm looking for that video or some edit of it (with music?) that I watched years ago.
>Season 3: (a) Uncertainty and confusion is prevalent throughout. [...]Post related to that:> https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/204072733/#204073542> >>A fat woman is inherently untrustworthy as they see no real difference between a pastrami sandwich and a dick in the mouth.> >you can just make up any statement as the truth with enough verisimilitude
>>217008547Creator of that image is apparently this guy:https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/89144452/#89145475
>>217007799His mindset: make lots of money = win at life
>Season 1 7/10>Season 26/10>Season 39/10>Season 4 3/10>Season 5 6/10
>>217007601>I guess his Alien series at least managed to keep my attentionI feel a similar way about some shows. Sometimes I dislike them but they aren't boring. An extraterrestrial-related TV series that I wish I could see season 2 and 3 of is "3 Body Problem". Maybe it'll release in early or middle 2026. I sorta dislike that show but I found the basic story/writing to be interesting.>other things you wroteInteresting/funny. The series you wrote about is "Alien: Earth".
>>217008804I also think season 2 is worse than season 1 and 3 of "Fargo".I suspected that season 5 was better than 4.
V.M. Varga is a paranoid and neurotic billionaire. He witnessed his mother, who worked as a maid for rich people, get killed by an angry poor person once in his life because she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He has decided this act was emblematic of a way of the world that he must protect himself from. He certainly 'works' Emmit a bit, he fluffs him up, he strings him along, he's using him after all, but what of Varga when he's alone? It feels like a cop-out to say MUHHH ITS A METAPHOR when examining his bulimia but, have you ever done something and thought to yourself "IM DOING A METAPHOR RIGHT NOW GUYS!!"? When he's alone, and isn't 'working' Emmit, you can still see his neurotic nature and paranoia and fear. He actually believes everything he tells Emmit. He points the crosshairs right at Emmit and unloads his beliefs 'at' Emmit as a tool, but he also still has them, even when there is no task. You can say "nice headcanon" but all of this is pretty obvious if you pay attention. Having the old Asian guy be the serial killer in Aporia is stupid I will give you that, but season 3 doesn't have a speck of dust on it. Its tight its scary, the big snarling mouths, violence not really showing up so that when it does show up it hits you hard. Its absolute kino and the best season by far. It lets you sit down and think and lets you enjoy it instead of telling you to enjoy it.
Good timing /tv/. Just watched the first episode last night now this thread is up. I liked the first 2 seasons.
