Why did people hate it?
>>217013056It made too many changes to the original book.Specifically it ends on a hopeful note when the original had a downer ending where the Monster is DOOMED rather than blessed to roam the Earth forever
>>217013056They updated the setting without changing the society in which it was set, and made the monster into a sympathetic figure without earning it through storytelling. The monster learns about love and all, but never develops beyond pining for a woman he wants to possess and demanding vengeance from his creator. It's all feels so one dimensional.
>>217013200>>217013267so it's woke? i didn't see a single poc
>>217013056Its very highly rated on all the film sites and critics loved it.Who exactly hated it apart from jaded stagnant uncs on /tv/?
>>217013636I wouldnt say woke, just very stupid at times>the woman meets the monster made up of piece togheter body parts but cares about a small wound on his arm>said monster also has wolverine tier regeneration, yet this wound didnt heal right away>the brother is barely a characther and only exist for Victor to cuck him>the father is a completely different characther than the book>monster dindu nuffinIt looks very pretty but the dialogue its very narm and dumb at times, also the sudden chapter change to the monster's side story was so jarring that was hilarious.Its a enjoyable movie but a fan of the book would hate it
>>217013056It insists upon itself.Also the monster having a healing factor is retarded.
>>217013762>>217013744Did you read the book?
>>217013834Yes but like 20 years ago, so i have a vague memory about it, which explain why could overlook the changes and enjoy the movie
>>217013056Oscar's accent is so bad I had to turn it off ~25-30 minutes in. I'm going to have to try again at some point bc a family friend went to the screening where GDT did a Q&A after and she raved about it and insisted that I watch it.
It has more of the book than the karloff version. the monster has a lot of monologues in the book.
>>217013056Frankenstein was pretty lame. There's way better and scarier monsters than him.
watched this last night. first of anything "frankenstein" ive seen. never read the book or seen any other movie.it was fine. started watching tron ares and quickly reminded how bad, bad, bad writing can be in modern film.anyway the "humans are the real monsters" cliche is severely eye-rolling, though i dont know if the trope didnt start with this book. apparently even old gothic literature wasnt as simple as "humanz bad!" but more of a commentary of how society and life circumstances can corrupt and change people, and was partly a response to the enlightenment period of people leaning more towards science."humans bad" and le nice old grandpa gave me liberal white savior vibes.they seemed to clearly go for more of a story of the creature than straight horror, but i dont know if having it learn to speak was the best choice. it also looked a bit too silly, like its just that actor with lines painted on him.i guess the lady who got shot is foreshadowing or sequel baiting for bride of frankenstein.tl;dr it was alright
>>217013897It sounds like you just enjoy being stimulated by motion and light. Good for you.
>>217014574>more of the book than the karloffit also changes more plot points than the karloff version, which fucks the story up much more than just leaving things out.
>>217014700why do you put all those retarded spaces into your post? I assume it's to let me know not to read it since I automatically skip it when you do that.
>>217013834the monster in the book only gets shot once, it didn't require Wolverine powers to explain him surviving given that he's already an undead monstrosity.
>>217014739so its not a wall of text. contrary to newfag (i.e. you) belief, spacing to make things readable has always been a thing. its not a reddit thing (which does it with one press of the enter key rather than two). you are just angry young boy looking to be edgy and lash out at what you subsconsciously believe something that is considered acceptable to lash out within the given context of the community you are currently in, which unfortunately is a misunderstanding on your part. you arent and never were bothered by spacing or other generic 4chan crying points, you just saw others make the same replies and copied and followed suit to fit in without an indepedent thought or sense of your own will whatsoever, greatly hinting at a relatively young age (or if not, its evident of a lack of intellectual maturation). run along and play while the adults talk, ok? there, a wall of text just how you like it
>YOU KILT OUR GRANPAPPY>dead wolves litter the cabinok
a lot of the critiques people bother to actually articulate I find to be reflexive or outright demonstrably wrong when you examine what is actually presented (especially bookfags) but enough people bounced off it for stylistic or substance reasons you have to fault the film to a degree even if I feel it's misunderstood and any flaws far from fatal
>>217014899>everyone is stupid and wrong except for me>i will not provide any examples or explanation
>>217014737The Whales version reduces the monster to a dumb grunting brute and became the template for decades after. That fucks things up more than anything else. Characterization > Plot.
Why is everyone so angry in this thread? There's been a dozen adaptations you can enjoy, it's not like he rian johnsoned your life.
>>217014997I feel frankenstein's hate inside my heart
>>217013056I rather liked all the visual references to gothic art/symbolism.
>>217014700Pretty sure the monster spoke in the book too, I remember the book ends with the monster giving his 2 cents to the captain right after Victor's death.Agreed on the shift of themes. The book has a strong enough message without trying to point out >rich people vain and everyone's an evil bigot for the umpteenth time, and they hardly highlight the main dilemma of Victor feeling like he's done something unforgivable that oversteps what humans ought to be capable of doing.>>217014739You're a newfag who misinterprets the reddit spacing insult
>>217014956 I said there is some validity to the detractors in sum even if I disagree with many explicit critiques such as:>it sucks cause he's not a heckin child murderer, that was the whole point! killing all those other people doesn't count>it sucks cause it looks like AI PS2 games despite tons of real miniatures, lavish sets and props>it's overlit despite tons of exterior single point light sources with tons of shadows and saturated colors>it felt unearned but also why did we need all that backstory with Victor's mom? 1 dimensional ontologically evil, and what's with all the weird Freudian stuff with Elizabeth and the milk and the monster and his father and his ambition 0 depth btw>you can't just have the delusional narcissist be explicitly confronted in the supportive sibling's last breath as he dies as a result of your fault. forced!my biggest gripe is really the bookfags that seem to think the monster becoming malevolent and violent because muh society is the only thing that makes the work "complex" and enduring and that's lost in this adaptation even though that's still there along with many other overlapping themes carried forth and expanded that they ignore like the Paradise Lost motif, paternity/motherhood, responsibility, atonement and absolution, science and nature, ambition and love, the will to live in a cruel world etcComplaints about the roaming camerawork, overused wide-shots and post-processing sheen I think are valid and of Isaac's hammy performance even if intended.
>>217015297>hardly highlight the main dilemma of Victor feeling like he's done something unforgivable that oversteps what humans ought to be capable of doing.this for instance, just an incorrect misunderstanding. trespassing on nature only becomes the sin that it is in the story because he abandons his creation and that is the crux of this film as well
Whats considered the best and/or most accurate adaptation?
>>217015682Ngl I personally think it's this one. Frankenstein has always been plagued with inaccurate movies. Most complaints for Del Toro's are from people not remembering the book because they read it once in high school, or having poor comprehension of what was happening in it. Most of the changes are sort of shallow and don't veer drastically from the book.
>>217015682Its just coping because its hollywood action
>>217016080? wrong post?
Women shlicked too hard to it
was this bad cgi?
