Shows are really still doing the dramatic “I’m gay” scene in 2025? The only surprising thing about a coming out scene these days is that they didn’t start the show already letting the viewer know immediately that a character was gay. It’s not 1994 anymore when advertisers will pull out if you show a gay kiss, you’re putting nothing at risk and you’re saying nothing.
>>217017049I found it strange how he gives the whole “I’m just like you, I like the same things” speech as if this is a very special episode from the 1980s. As you said, gay people on TV are nothing new or groundbreaking any more. This really should been an intimate moment with his mum and brother and Mike or some shit, not a faggy speech given to 20 people. It made my balls retract into my stomach it was so embarrassing
>>217017049Show full of weird creatures and different dimensions and this is what they saved for their endgame, a boy who likes dong
>>217017098I’m pretty sure he’s never even spoken to several of those characters before
>>217017049This show is set in the 80s retard. It's context appropriate.
>>217017098>show set in 1980s>parody of 1980s sitcom very special episodewhoa… why would they do this
>>217017127Is this the official midwit defense of the scene? I don’t go on Twitter so I’m not up to date on what midwits are doing.
>>217017141You don’t know what a parody is.
>>217017049https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_CN2V8h77Y
>>217017127The famously progressive and gay friendly 80s
>>217017098>This really should been an intimate moment with his mum and brother and Mike or some shit, not a faggy speech given to 20 people.Completely agree, but the Duffers have lost all appreciation of subtlety and are just pushing s5 to be bigger, more epic, and more emotional than ever before, and it's backfiring. It's just not compelling to watch anymore.
>>217017049I'm just like you guys! Except i got molested as a kind and now I cope with it by being a disgusting degenerate. Other than that I'm just like you guys!
>>217017867I don’t watch the show, but how can you be gay when you have a brown qt 3.14 tradwife sitting next to you who clearly wants to betray her race and be colonized by your BWC?
>>217017127tbf, his friends and family should have immediately disowned him, if they were going for accuracy.
>>217017098>As you said, gay people on TV are nothing new or groundbreaking any more.They still are.
>>217017987Who even watches this stuff?>NORMAL THINGS, BUT A GAY GUY!
https://x.com/i/status/2005275257435738363
>>217017127fag!
>>217017987I don’t see how that supports your argument. It’s a show with an openly gay lead that is getting clear support from critics. You wouldn’t see that in a time or place when gay characters were in any way groundbreaking.
>>217018006Women and fags.
>>217017987
The thing about these coming out scenes that was always strange to me is, shouldn’t the people who you’re closest to and know you intimately have already sort of figured out that you’re gay just from being around you all the time? The only way it makes sense is if you’re coming out to your dad or someone who is in denial over you being gay, but is still aware of it. These scenes aren’t for the characters’ benefit, they exist just for good press.
>>217017907If you really think molestation causes homosexuality, why isn’t your reaction sympathy for the child rather than hatred? It’s obvious you don’t care
>>217017049Homosexuals are fucking disgusting and the primary spreaders of HIV. The anus was not meant to be fucked. Fecal incontinence will ruin your life. I wish they'd stop trying to normalise this degeneracy. 99% of animals do not engage in anal.
>>217018229Because he’s choosing to perpetuate the cycle of abuse rather than end it. Hope this helps :)
>>217017926Will ibeing literally the gayest character of all time is the only explanation
>>217018284>Hope this helps :)Not sure if predditor or larping as one.
>>217017049why every white boi gay in hollywood yikes
>>217017867What a fag
>>217018407I mean, every black boi in the music industry sucked diddy’s cock.
>>217017098>>217017127>And... and we like Milk Duds in our popcorn with extra butter. And we like drinking Coke with Pop Rocks. And we like bike races and trading comics and NASA and Steve Martin and Lucky Charms and... literally all the same things.This sounds like pure instatok twee moment influencer talk, though.Especially the abuse of the word "literally", that's pure millenizoomer. I dare you to find literally anyone in the 80s who literally did that.
>>217017049does he even say gay or does he just say that he doesn’t like girls
>>217018141>shouldn’t the people who you’re closest to and know you intimately have already sort of figured out that you’re gay just from being around you all the time?How would you figure out someone's gay without them telling you? Unless they're bringing hookups home to meet you, which they probably aren't if they're in the closet.
>>217018601Just that he doesn't like girls. You can tell the seethers are just as stupid as the writers because so many of them are fixated on "he didn't say gay" when that's like the only historically accurate part of the scene.
Will is cute, so I'll allow it, but don't you fucking DARE giving him a black boyfriend.
>>217017049I caught the police academy last night, when mahoney said sleeping is for fags i kekd
>>217018638Okay, maybe this anon wouldn’t be able to tell, but most people would.
>>217018407Gays are actually talented, heteros aren’t.
>>217018767how?
>Will no that’s your brother
>>217018601>I.. I don’t like girls.>It’s okay Will.. we know you’re gay.>Gay? The fuck you mean, gay? I said I don’t like girls. I’m deeply misogynistic and now I’m being open about it. Get outta here with that faggot shit, nigga. And why do Eleven look like she in her 50s? Bitches be hitting the wall earlier and earlier every damn year. This is why I fucking hate women.Jesus, Will..
>>217018844By being less socially retarded than you.
This scene is the least of season 5’s problems.
>>217017049Meanwhile Pluribus has a lesbian main character who never uses the "L" or "G" words. And her marriage is treated as matter-of-fact as any straight marriage.
>>217018972Answer the fucking question. How. I know you don't mean>gee golly, Mr Fag acts like a lisping queer, you know, he must be gaydo fucking tell
>>217019135>>217018972
I'm not a fag, but I'd let him suck me off.
>>217017098Beyond mentally ill Byler freaks and 'this is woke nonsense' types, if Will took Joyce, his brother, and childhood friends aside whilst Hopper, Steve, etc. were preparing simultaneously to come out it wouldn't be anywhere near as laughed at for the shitty worthless scene that it is
Question: why does Finn on the whole look good despite his massive Jew beak but Schnapp is very strange/unpleasant to look at? Maybe because Finn is obviously a yid but Schnapp looks like some weird mishmash of stolen goy and yid features?
>>217019149>still no answerSo "chads" are just memeing their own social prowess, got it.
>>217017049The world is ran by boomers and their money.They remember thinking this kind of thing was heroic and powerful in the 90s, so now they're going to do it again 30 years later because worshiping gays is just part of leftist culture now.
>>217017049>>217017098this was written in 2023 and shot in 2024, way before the vibe shift where normies realized how fucking cringe and gay this was>>217017127people say this shit but don't notice that a show set in 80s Indiana has never once depicted characters as being Christian or refer to regional sports figures like Larry Bird or Mike Pagel
>>217019226Finn radiates quiet dignity and self-assurance while Noah seems passive and submissive.
>>217018972Fine, then you should be able to tell what my sexual orientation is. Go ahead.
>>217019255You must’ve missed the answer, it’s right here: >>217018972Hope this helps :)
>>217019325You must have missed all the replies of us calling bullshit, hope that helps too :)
>>217019281I'm Bri'ish so watched that episode they did on a 80's UK-style Christmas dinner and Finn (and Gaten) were the funny ones in dry sarcastic way. The Will actor barely said a word, he seemed very nervous
>>217019305Not really, no. Since I specified here >>217018141 that I’m talking about “those you’re closest to”, and you’re some random anonymous nobody. Nice try, though.
>>217017098Faggots are narcissists that enjoy being victimsEveryone who is insecure enjoys to some degree being a victim, so that includes all browns of all sorts and women, and jews
>>217019278>this was written in 2023 and shot in 2024Coming out scene withstanding, this ebin final season if fundamentally broken and dogshit
>>217019343Nope, I read them and rightly disregarded them. Your answer is here: >>217018972Also “us”? Really? You’re samefagging now? Did I hurt your feelings that much?
>>217019403I enjoy being a DOM TOP actually
>>217019435So you can't answer then.
>>217019373Which means your "by being less socially retarded" answer was wrong. You're perfectly free to be less socially retarded as a random anonymous nobody on /tv/, so if that somehow gave you magic insight, it would work here too.
>>217019435>rightly disregardedSaying you're right doesn't make you right.It might explain how you think you can psychically tell who's gay and who's not without anyone telling you, though. I'm guessing you also "rightfully disregard" anyone who tells you "No, anon, I'm not gay/I am gay".>Also “us”? Really? You’re samefagging now? Did I hurt your feelings that much?You can cope better than this.
>>217019466Are you ESL and stupid or just stupid? My point about him being a “random internet nobody” is that I am not close to him and so his sexuality has nothing to do with my previous statement.>>217019456>>217018972
>>217019558Didn’t read. You just wasted a few minutes typing this. >>217018972God this is ea
>>217019572If you're a smart native English speaker as you claim, you should understand he's not saying 'you literally didn't reply to my post', he's saying 'your reply doesn't justify your claim', so no need to keep linking >>217018972.
Wait for it..
>>217019597>You just wasted a few minutes typing "by being less socially retarded than you". Um, okay. Thanks for the compliment, I guess?
>>217019638Read this since you get the same reply: >>217019597>>217018972-sy.
>>217019663Weird failed comeback attempt lol Check it: >>217018972
>>217019677Same to you then >>217019663Maybe next time wait for your "closest ones" to come out to you,
>>217019699>Weird failed comeback attemptNot all of us live for "comebacks", you proud well-hung "socially unretarded" chad. Here, I'll save you the trouble of spamming your next reply: >>217018972 >>217018972 >>217018972 >>217018972 >>217018972
>>217019708Imitation is an admission that your own tactics have failed and you need to use someone else’s.>>217018972
>>217019766Mmm, nah. It’s not the same when you do it. You just don’t have the same flair. Check it: >>217018972
gayest argument ever witnessed on tv
>>217019774>>217019798>>217018972
>>217019828I wouldn’t call me slapping some social retards around like they’re a toddler who fell into a lion enclosure an “argument” lol
>>217019856>>217019774Check it: >>217018972
>>217019866>Imitation is an admission that your own tactics have failed and you need to use someone else’s.>>217018972Hoist by chad's own petard...
>>217019917Literally makes no sense lol, I’m not imitating anyone in the post you tagged. Please tell me you’re ESL, it would explain so much.Oh, also:Check it: >>217018972
I think>>217018972is gay guys, don't know about you
>>217020022What’s a “gay guys”?
>>217017127If this was truly loyal to the 80s there should have been at least 3-5 people listening to that speech who ended up hating him for it.
>>217017049what is this fucking show.
>>217017049you thought the jews were done? they are just Jewgun goy
>>217017098t. Chud
>>217020237The Jews invented homophobia to begin with as well though
>>217020248Not the last time he’ll be inside of another man.
>>217019258It's Kevin Smith and He-Man all over again. There's a whole cultural segment that's convinced itself they're living in a cartoon version of the 1950s. In real life this scene would already have been embarrassingly trite and self-important in the 90s. In forty years from now, Netflix is going to make a show depicting the 2020s as a fascist dystopia where gay people are hunted down in the streets and shot. Meanwhile in the real world, you and I, actually living in the time period, know the only thing going on in the streets is pride parades. It's annoying how many people uncritically believe this revisionist version of what the 80s were like.
Fun fact: the first openly gay tv character in America was shown in 1971. Later that decade there was the first major character to come out of the closet. That’s how old this shit is. The difference is that 50 years of the LBGT movement have only made writers worse at it. https://youtu.be/2TkPs1SkiEw?si=-SkhNKj01zTw-c3QThis is a scene from 55 years ago, and it just shows a normal guy who’s gay. He doesn’t shame Archie for having an old-fashioned view of it. He doesn’t have a big monologue about how normal he is, you just see him being normal.
>>217020644Well, the main unifying quality of the leftist worldview is that narratives constitute reality, not anything tangible.When you say something like "Blacks commit half the crime," they get pissed off about it not because it's untrue, but because they think you're making it real by making it part of the narrative, thus, you're creating racism.When you talk to a person who has this kind of worldview, yeah, the universe they live in is going to be their own personal political fanfiction. They have a white savior complex, and they've created an internal universe where bragging about their moral superiority on stage IS protecting the weak. Because remember, only the narrative matters to these people. Talking about how great of a person they are on twitter is literally the exact same thing as actually being a good person, all you need to do is agree. Transwomen are real women, all you need to do is accept it. I could go on.When all you care about is narratives, you've made a world where you can do anything as long as you can come up with some faggy little story about how you're always right and a great person. The thing leftists fear and hate more than anything else is the idea that they might lose control of the narrative, this story line of legitimacy they tell themselves.
>The data indicate that a much higher percentage of gay males are in the normal weight category compared to straight males; 41.9% versus 27.0%https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-10936-2_16This can't be happening straightsisters...
>>217020908> Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter. The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy. He's obviously queer — wears an ascot — but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar. I don't mind the homosexuality. I understand it. [...] Nevertheless, goddamn, I don't think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddammit, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that. So was Socrates.
>>217017049This scene is unironically based because it caused millions of Indians, Pakis, Brazilians and Russians to seethe and it will cause their birth rates to drop by 90% in next 20 years because only thirdies can become gay by media influence
>>217021000>he’s obviously queer—wears an ascotIs that all it takes? I thought ascots were a sign of high education and were just the style of the time.
>>217017127Coming out to a group of people is not context appropriate for the 80s. They would laugh at him and call him a fag if he did that irl