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Is this really as kino as /pol/ says it is?
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its not even in the top 3 of Mann's films but yeah its pretty kino
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>>217023209
reminder that it's a remake of one of Michael Mann's earlier movies
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>>217023321
>reminder that it's a remake of one of Michael Mann's earlier movies
I wouldn't call it a remake but he definitely copied a lot of the scenes from Thief
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>>217023209
no
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It's a good film but everyone here sucks it off too much
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There is no better heist film
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>>217023389
>There is no better heist film
This is not even the best Michael Mann heist film.
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>>217023389
there's like 3 Ealing Comedies that are better heist films whilst also being comedies.
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>>217023423
Don't be a contrarian fag (pls). Heat is mostly great just because Mann got to make it twice essentially, he made like a TV version years prior. No one in their right mind is arguing Their or whatever else as a better heist movie.
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>>217023209
>/pol/
Do not listen to 40+ yo incels
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what the fuck does this have to do with /pol/
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>>217023209
It's pretty shit really.

Also, >>217023227
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>>217023209
There’s a few good scenes, but it drags a lot. Completely overrated.
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>>217023209
I like it but I skip about 20 minutes of crap I don't care about.
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>>217023209
>/pol/
Why don’t you fuck off back and ask those dumbass 80 IQ brown twerps?
>>>/pol/
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>movie is about how men are monstrously obsessed, dysfunctional, and destructive
>/pol/ likes it
huh
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>>217023209
Mediocre. /pol/ is midwit central.
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>>217023365
It's a remake of L.A. Takedown
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The love plot + ending are gay Hollywood goyslop other than that it's pretty good.
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>>217023209
yes
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>>217023209
>contrarian
It’s contrarian to not support taking a knee for BLM. It’s the lamest excuse to shield people from having to explain why this movie is so good.

The shootout scene is legendary. The rest of the movie is mid to complete fucking garbage. The shootout scene end does all the heavy lifting for the rest of it and I’m tired of being worshipped as a 10/10 masterpiece here.
>hey we’re a split second timing super organized crew who covers all the bases
>so naturally let’s take on some asshole we’ve never worked with before a major heist that will draw nationwide heat
>oh this guy fucked up?
>well lets discuss it with him in a diner full of people after murdering several guards and being on worldwide news
>he gave lip?
>let’s commit a mob action on this guy in front of the whole diner and mean mug all the patrons as they look to see what’s going on knowing 99% of them are discussing this heist murder that just took place
>well now lets just murder this guy in the parking lot of the diner where 50 people just saw our faces as we assaulted this guy

>al Pacino makes crazy eyes and screams random things at random times
Wow, he really showcased his range there.
It has its moments outside of the shootout scene but for the most part It’s ridiculously bad.
>>217023740
Thank you.
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If you want real Mann kino, watch Blackhat and Ferrari. Heat is amateurish in comparison.
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>>217023683
Might as well leave 4chan entirely then
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>>217023209
everything else by Mann is garbage that shows a bit of promise. This is just straight kino, THE crowning thriller of the 90s along with The Fugitive.
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>>217024356
I can't even begin to fathom the amount of damage your poor brain is dealing with.
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>>217023209
Rewatched it a few months ago and it hasn't aged too well. It's like 3 or 4 great scenes while the rest of the movie is mediocre
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>>217023209
Pure fucking bushidokino
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>>217023209
WAGS subplot(s) are kneecapped by the ending. Pacino's heel turn isn't followed through on satisfactory. The theatrical ending cannot have stood without cutting 80% of the WAGS material, because that's the end it served-- despite the action, it truly drags.
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>>217023740
This. The family scenes do nothing for it
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>>217024238
>its contrarian to not support taking a knee for BLM
Wtf where do you think you are you nigger loving faggot
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>>217024356
Astonishingly filtered, truly remarkable.
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Boring movie propped up by two or three god tier action sequences


It's a must watch though for sure

Collateral
Miami vice
Heat
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>>217023209
The shooting scene is the best in all cinema because it's real gun sounds instead studio dubbed and real bullet impact prepped. and don't forget the exemplary reload of Val Kilmer that become standard reload action speed of US troops and their movement tactics
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ive only seen heat and the insider but does mann put kino music in all his films or just those two?
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>>217023756
No lmao eat the shit out of my ass faggot.
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>>217023209
don't watch unless you are a big gay
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>>217023227
1. Collateral
2. Heat
3. Thief
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>>217024238
nigga I ain't gonna read all that
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>>217027755
The Insider and Manhunter were better than Thief, and Collateral. And Heat.
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>>217024150
which is why heat sucks. takedown was a tv pilot so heat got stuck with a bunch of pointless melodrama bloating the film
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>>217026341
the main gunfight is trash. literally just them suppressing guys with pistols already out of range.
way of the gun is far superior or collateral or even ronin
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>>217023209
Manhunter, thief better
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>>217027912
I'll be honest the only Mann movies I've seen are those 3 and miami vice so you might be right
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>>217027912
>The Insider
Pure contrarianism
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CLEAN UP, GO HOME
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>>217027129
He put the same Einstürzende Neubauten song in two different movies
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>>217023209
Yes but the airport chase scene drags on for way too long and ruins an otherwise great movie.
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>>217029513
Not him but how can you not like that movie?
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>>217023209
greatest shootout in film history
but Thief is more kino overall
Manhunter is also great
Collateral could've been on par with Thief or Heat but Jamie Fox is in it
he's like proto-Pedro Pasqal DEI hire
really lowers the films vibe
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>>217024238
>a-bloo-bloo muh Waingro
They're a super-organized team of robbers, but they're still just violent impulsive crooks, dude. They make mistakes and do dumb shit. Calling the rest of the movie "mid" because of that one scene is fucking retarded.

You are indeed a contrarian fag, along with:
>>217028110
>>217027992
>>217023740
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>>217023209
You take movie advice from /pol/? And THEN you ask us?

This website is a cesspool of sewage. Don't actually get advice here. It's from the wrong kinds of people who like and hate the wrong things for the wrong reasons.
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>>217023209
If you want the cozy European version
and don't worry Europe is still Europe in this
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>>217023389
I love 'Heist' by David Mamet. With Gene Hackman in it. That and 'Spartan' are super underrated.
Mamet-directed movies never did very well but I always loved them.
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>>217031950
based
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>>217031917
Why the fuck are you here faggot?
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>>217032109
reddit mods are trying to take over 4chan like they did reddit by bidding for lower wages and flooding jannie applications
but they don't realize Israel is already running this whole site
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>>217031921
Nice car chase too
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>>217032154
Oh ok well I hope those disgusting degenerate nigger faggots all get aids
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>>217032210
>asking a nihilist to an hero
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>>217032069
>Take your knife out. Where is the girl? Take out his eye. ....you bet your life."
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>>217032109
Because I've been here 15 years and I'm not letting a bunch of bitter virgin chuds crowd me out. Fuck off, incel.
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>>217032210
I feel the same way about you, chud. Sorry you'll never try pussy. You should hang out here and complain about jews and 'wokeness' and black people. That makes it all better.
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Not really. The action sequences are, but the dialogue and long, meandering plots of the two protagonists is fucking terrible and their worst performances.
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>>217023209
Pacino's FNC sounds awesome.
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>>217023209
It’s way too long and the last scene is retarded, despite what some retard might say
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>>217023209
Only if you're willing to make a move and get it on.
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>>217032384
t. woke nigger jew
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val kilmer was the best method actor ever btw
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Yes
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>>217023209
Watch "The Friends of Eddie Coyle"
Absolute kino with Peter Boyle and Robert Mitchum.
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>>217023209
one good scene: the movie
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>>217023683
>>>/r/edditfag
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>>217023209
Nah
Best scenes are the opening van robbery, breakin/police spy truck, and the bank robbery shootout
It's up to your judgement whether context matters enough to see all of it
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>>217033168
>hurrrr don talk shit bout muh homebourd joooo!!!1!!1!!one!1
lmao fag
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>>217023389
The Killing
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>>217023756
You first, jungle nigger.
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>>217023209
Overrated, overlong, utter tripe. Watch Thief (1981) if you want something that actually lives up to the enormous hype of this pathetic piece of cinematic filth
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Watched it yesterday. I enjoyed it but it didn't seem great.
Honestly it didn't feel like there was much of a coherent story to be told, characters are just doing things. There is a lot of dated romances that add nothing. Al Pacino is hilariously miscast and overacting, has a cuck arc again for no reason. The big heist that was the sell for the movie is about 2 minutes of the movie

It comes across as a bit circlejerk-y and is an early glimpse into the future for De Niro and Pacino continuing to act like tough guy mafiosos despite being way too old and fragile.
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>>217023209
a lot of people ITT who have never had to get it on
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The only person I know in real life who thinks this film is good is my dad. And if you wanna know what kinda movies my dad likes, the only two movies he was excited for last year was the new captain america and jason statham movie
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It had a shitty message



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