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Best Series Finale of All Time Edition

>>217033329
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An evil rock?
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the spin off should be about steve’s coaching and teaching job
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So what was the rock that originally infected Henry? How did it get here?
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>>217035446
What's rocks story?
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>>217035411
I hate the show but this guy was good.
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>>217035411
>subverting expectations is bad writi-ACK!
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>>217035457
How the fuck should I know? Nigger.
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Great show
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>>217035495
I'm glad they gave her some pants.
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>>217035466
But he basically said exactly what a mind controlled person would say. Are we supposed to just take his word at face value? Idk it's kinda dumb.
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The last episode wasn't so bad, the big fight was good I guess. I was expecting a final scene of El wandering the eldritch cosmos or something though.
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>jonathan making a movie about a woman eating
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>>217035411
>actual sequence
Mindflayer -> Vecna -> Mindflayer/Vecna symbiote
>based and trv sequence
Vecna -> Mindflayer (it's the actual big bad)
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That army subplot abruptly ended. Why did they face no consequences for murdering a bunch of soldiers
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It was kind of the military to pardon them all despite them mowing down dozen of their own and knowing a fuckton of military grade secrets.
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>>217035576
because murdering killer terrorist thugs like the US army is based
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>does nothing
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I suppose in a way the ending matches the whole childhood 80's vibe of the show. It's over now, it won't be back. Everyone is moving on. I like that Hopper and Joyce got a nice ending though. All the flashbacks were pretty sad though, everyone was so young, if only they had filmed each season sooner. Shame Linda Hamilton's character didn't fucking go off into space when it all collapsed, like all the dying pregnant women that were probably still there.
But then again having her run up to Eleven, try to grab her and realize it's an illusion before getting sucked off into nothing, would ruin the "maybe it's real" ending.
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Realistically speaking, would firing at the mindflayer with 1 gun from this far away even hit it or cause any real damage to it? (I know nothing about guns)
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>>217035411
are women gooning for vecna and mrwhatsit?
>>217035567
>>mindflayer
it's just a fucking bug
>>217035576
soldiers are cannon fodder, they mean nothing to the government, in fact they deserved it because they lost against a bunch of kids
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>>217035576
What's wrong with killing fascists?
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>>217035632
did they seriously dodged that thing with bullets?
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>>217035576
Bro, this show hasn't made sense since season 1. At this point, complaining about it just makes you sound like a retard with zero learning curve.
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>>217035411
I thought he was terrible in season 5. He was great in season 4 though.
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>>217035556
I hope these fag nobodies get cancer.
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I just feel like the show lost itself. Season 1 was really good and just nothing like the rest at all. Why the hell is Nancy a commando now?
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>interdimensional psychic being
>can bring others under its thrall, which also means that if the thrall dies the mindflayer dies (or is at least extremely vulnerable)
>1000 feet tall but gets outrun by humans on foot
>knows there are humans which knows its weakness and have already hurt vecna, doesn't send a trillion demogorgons to kill them first
>lives on a planet which has the perfect atmosphere for humans to live and breathe on
>bullets hurt it enough that it runs into a trap where it is killed
I don't get the mindflayer at all
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mindflayer looked like SLEEPER in gothic 1
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>>217035686
It went from
>what if Stephen King's IT, the X-Files, and the Goonies mashed together?
to slop.
There's not even any horror element anymore outside "oh noooo scoob, the evil It ripoff kidnapped the children, we gotta go save em!" I thought the fat kid might die for example, but they chickened out. I'm not even that bloodthirsty, either kill someone to reinforce stakes or fuck off.
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>>217035700
it just forgot
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>>217035662
His backstory ep in S4 was amazing, easily better than most episodes after S1.
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>>217035700
Don't worry about that shit bro at least it looks cool
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were people really crying during the finale? these must be bots.
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>>217035660
>>217035686
Obviously Season 1 was made with no real explanation for all the weird shit. And then when Netflix ordered more they needed to keep adding to it and create actual villains that can talk rather than just 1 monster.

>>217035700
>doesn't send a trillion demogorgons to kill them first
They never did explain why all that shit only spawns in the Upside Down.
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>>217035632
>>217035700
>Super intelligent interdimensional/alien boss fight
>Acts completely retarded
Many such cases
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>>217035686
>>217035712
honestly for the show to be good it needed to have at most 3-4 seasons. Vecna needed to appear in season 3 at the absolute latest after a lot of foreshadowing. there just isn't enough mileage or mystery if you string this kind of concept out for this long.
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>>217035748
I cried when he died too
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>>217035759
>They never did explain why all that shit only spawns in the Upside Down.
and it doesn't make any sense if the UD is just a temporary bridge that mirrors the real world. it all should have been from the Abyss.
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>>217035765
I think Vecna completely ruined the show, I was confused for much of it whether there was actually a Mind Flayer or not. Get rid of Vecna. Keep the Mind Flayer as the main Upside Down villain. If you want to have a "villain with a face and backstory", focus on the military.
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>>217035495
imagine these lips wrapped around your asshole
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What do demigorgons actually eat? It sort of made sense if it was this low population intra-dimensional predator, it eats missing persons, but now it comes from a barren rock with no water or life.
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>>217035783
Nah it's like half and half, one side is Hawkins and the ceiling is the Abyss. Now as for why there's only gravity on one side, and why Abyss has no flesh shit. Who fucking knows.
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>>217035800
Don't think about it. Zero effort was put in the ecology of the upside down, it is just an evil dimension that exists because the story needs an evil dimension.
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>>217035788
netflix audiences are too stupid for a villain that can't constantly be vocalizing the plot and their motivations in every scene
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>saves the season
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>>217035834
Then focus on the military.
I personally thought things were pretty clear with the "Mind Flayer wants into our dimension, no other reason" in Season 1 and 2.
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>>217035411
>Good morning saaars!!!!
Am I the only one that thought he was an average actor? I dont get the hype.
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>>217035843
She didn't even do anything in the finale.
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>>217035411
lol I would blow him away with my lips as i suck his penis lol
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>>217035843
Joshua is so lucky
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They didn’t show us what happened with Murray the Jew. That should be the spinoff.
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>>217035827
one issue with stringing out the show for too long is that the Upside Down inevitably started to feel boring and empty, to the point that the show had to introduce BOTH an additional boring empty dimension, AND spend a bunch of time in Henry's memories instead so they could have scenes in IRL locations.
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>>217035862
murray and the russian pilot guy spinoff when
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>>217035864
You could have had a whole season where they explain how the Upside Down works.
>something something there's these plants that feed on quantum energy put off by our dimension!
>wow, so that's where the missing gravitational energy goes!
>string theory was right...
>look there's this bug that eats the plants!
>and a lizard eats the bug!
>and the demogorgon eats the lizard!
That's it. Five fucking seconds to build an ecology with garbage dialogue.
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>>217035759
It's not just villains, it's adding all these other people. That Murray guy in particular is fucking awful.
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>>217035788
the show needed some kind of sub-antagonist who could be played by an actor. he was very servicable in season 4 until the Duffers ruined his threat level by having him get seriously wounded by being shot then didn't replace him with anything for too long in season 5.
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Most of the plot is explained off-screen in a play unironically. Back in WW2 the Philadelphia experiment accidentally sent the USS Eldridge to dimension X (abyss), and that's where the rock came from. The guy in the cave was a soviet spy.
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I am satisfied
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>s4 it looks like the upside down is going to start expanding into the real world
>s5 it's covered up
>uhh let's add another planet where the spider demon is from! it's going to crash into earth by coming through the upside down!
>meanwhile the town remains completely oblivious, even the military have no idea and think vecna isn't real, even after he attacks their base they don't seem interested in him at all(????)
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>217035886
the UD isn't Pandora, its plot role isn't that we actually want to go to live there and need to know what that would be like. its the scary place bad stuff comes from.
>Five fucking seconds
show don't tell actually takes up a lot of screentime. again: the Avatar movies.
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>>217035854
she leads the kids to the cave and hits him with the poker twice that stalls him
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>>217035933
>>uhh let's add another planet where the spider demon is from!
the other planet is in season 4, its where Henry gets banished too by Eleven in the backstory. why he ends up there doesn't make sense in retrospect but it is actually shown.
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>>217035954
that just means they planned the lame dimensional portal shit for even longer. that's somehow worse
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>>217035411
What a dogshit finale. Any discussion on this show has a 2 week's timeline. Absolute snoozefest of a finale. The whole show being a D&D campaign was the only way to salvage this ass shit crap. Holy fuck. Ass shit poop crap ending. Waste of time.
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>>217035954
It was different then, the idea was the upside down dimension was different and made alike to Hawkins by contact with our world, like imprinting onto it.
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>>217035700
this show was for children and women what the fuck do expect?
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>boss fight
>hundreds of demodogs gone
>the bats that killed eddie gone
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>>217035859
They just had to slip that in there, didn't they.
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so if the planet had touched the ground in the upside down the portal would have been direct from earth to the desert planet and the spider could come through? that's the plan?
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>>217035843
The season was shit
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I blame the stupid stage play. It ruined everything S4 had built up and explained. It’s like someone went “Wait this actor is hot, I can fix him. He should be under the control of the mindflayer so he can be redeemed.”
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>>217035929
Condolences on being a retard.
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Peak slop. It couldn't be any sloppier
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>>217036105
He wasn't redeemed.
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>>217036042
No the show was for 80’s boomers back in S1. Now it’s for women.
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holly the snowcunny
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>>217036085
Apparently. It would have then been promptly killed by any given squad of armed men.
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>>217036123
But they attempted to. They even explain that he wasn’t really a psychopath.
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>demidogs are bulletproof
>godzilla mindflayer gets hurt by small arms fire
I can't
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Holly sucking off 8-inch African dick of joshua while derek is in the room watching it all happen
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>vecna was raped as a child so that turned him gay, he then went on to rape Will when he grew up which turned Will gay.

who is will going to molest?
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It's not as bad as Game of Thrones, but nobody will talk about this show. This last season was easily the worst. Amazed how intellectually bankrupt Pedowood is. I've read better theories and ideas on this board than what we ended up with.
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>>217036131
No, you can only kill it, or Vecna, if you are a main character. Remember the massacre at the military base at the end of episode 4? If Nancy picked up a gun dropped by a dead soldier and shot Vecna it would have killed him even though bullets from the same gun were bouncing off of him when a grunt shot him earlier.
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Was Milwaukee at the forefront of gay culture in the 80s?
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>>217036163
worst is Holly has crush on Josh so it's not a Black sexual superiority thing. she just loves Blacks
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Ohnononononononoonno
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>>217036173
Not even making an attempt to handwave it away with "we soaked our bullets in chemical x and thatll make them effective". Just nothing.
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Where was El in the end? New Zealand?
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So everyone stormed a military base and killed several dozen men, got caught, and later they're all released? Not even just the minors, even Hopper is the sheriff again.
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Just finished watching. It was vastly better than Game of Thrones, at least. The 40min epilogue was heartwarming, it gave closure and was a pleasant surprise given the ungodly amount of cliche that came just before.

Mike's actor looks better with fake vampire fangs. lol
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>>217036188
>>217036163
Did you two not notice she got together with Derek after the timeskip?
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>>217036105
qrd on the stage play. What am I missing out on?
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>>217036215
What about everyone in Hawkins and the rest of America? They were fine with the military locking down the entire city and putting steel plates everywhere and then just disappearing and blaming it on Earthquakes?
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>sassy black sister and genius teacher have no relevant part outside a 1 liner
>obnoxious fun jew has no conclusion
>pojeeta has an ambiguous death
>military has no conclusion
>main cast is allowed to live out their normal lives despite being subjects of a top secret operation
>Will gets to he a faggot in 90s New York
>Whatever happened to Dustin's Mormon girlfriend?
>Nancy, Jonathan and Steve have no actual conclusion
For a 2 hour finale, they sure fucked up tying loose ends
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>>217036212
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granni_Waterfall
https://www.gocarrental.is/nature/waterfalls/granni-waterfall/
It's Iceland.
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>>217036223
>delusional Timmy cope
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>>217036220
This slop was made for idiots like (You)
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>>217036239
>Nancy, Jonathan and Steve have no actual conclusion
Nancy and Jonathan are married in NYC and making a movie. Steve is alone in a dead end career in a dead town with no prospects of any kind, his only friends a lesbian hag and a retarded afro kid who's leaving anyways.
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>>217036163
She's sucking Derek's fat one instead
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>>217036259
>Nancy and Jonathan are married in NYC and making a movie
No they're not. Speedwatcher.
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>>217035686
Season 1 was so kino, it's easy to forget. The contrast is astonishing. https://youtu.be/gYZ-9L_waU8?si=8s1fqMm66vFk0WKA
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>>217035700
I always thought it's way bigger desu
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How does Mike's theory make sense? The Indian kid was shot like 2 hours ago and bled out. Then the building she was in was blown up
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>>217036284
The upside down used to be toxic and hostile and now you can just walk around no problem, not a bat in sight
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MBB is going to have the worst filmography of all time by the end of this decade
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>>217035700
We was groggy, he just woke up. Cut him some slack.
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>>217036306
She was also an illusionist and could have been faking the gunshot. Her and El could have had a plan to fake their deaths.
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>spend half an episode shitting on ST and making fun of gay Will
>the other half of the video is about Milwaukee
>in the finale Will ends up moving to Milwaukee in the late 80s, likely becoming a Dahmer victim
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>>217036284
Show gets shit as stakes increase to universe ending events. Many such cases
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>>217036244
>>217036212
You're both mistaken.
She's in a volume sound stage.
>This post is sponsored by unreal engine 5 and quixel megascans.
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>>217036317
I dunno, i enjoy her body of work
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>>217035446
There was some kind of experiment done in the 50s that revealed the alternate dimension. the guy with the briefcase was a scientist who was trying to sell it to the russians
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>>217036284
>basic melodrama
omg so amazing get some fucking standards
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Str(eddit)anger Thing(ay)s
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>>217036317
>the worst filmography of all time
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>>217036306
The ending is shit, who cares?
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>>217036317
Her career is super over. You can see it already. What's going to happen is she'll feign being happy with her millions of dollars and being out of the movie/tv industry and her recently adopted kid (who will not be sticking around with her for long), and after about a year, she'll still openly hold that opinion, but won't be talking about how her agent is trying to get her roles, and only coming up with garbage C tier shit which she refuses.
Fast forward a couple of years, and either because of her need for attention or her need for money, or a combination of the two you will start to see her popping up in comically bad trash.
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>>217036346
Sad tits
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>>217036371
I believe in Zach Snyders ability to churn out the worst dogshit imaginable over these last four years of the decade. MBB you are not taking the crown from the King of Dogshit!
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>ending to the biggest show of the past decade is just turn off your brain bro lol
No fuck you hollyjews I'm tired of the ever lowering standards of slop
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>>217036324
Dahmer wouldn't go after a white guy.
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>>217035466
>straightforward thing happens
>MUH HECKIN EBIN SUBVERSION BRAVO VINCE
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>>217035700
Is this the mind flayer's real body or just a flesh golem vecna created?
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>>217036346
>here's that young youthful 20 something I was telling you about
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>>217035411
links cool rechts schwul oder wie ging das?
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>>217036379
former child actors don't automatically have the desperate need to be famous that drives people who become actors later in their lives.
she can focus on monetizing her fame efficiently and doing philanthropy or just enjoying being rich, it doesn't mean its fake.
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>>217036399
Does it actually matter?
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>>217036399
I'm assuming golem, Mind Flayer was in the rock and it's an alien virus. So I guess 11 is now gonna be shedding that virus all over the planet so when they come back to do the legacy sequel in twenty years they can explain how kids all over the world are developing powers.
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>>217036306
It's just his cope to make sense of her death.
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So why did Vecna need the kids again? And they all escaped so he didnt need them anyway?
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>>217035676
>nobodies
they could coast on being the guys that made stranger things s1 for the rest of their lives.
imagine being this delusional
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It had flaws but as far as finale goes it wasn't that bad, I had fun watching it and it made me feel something. I can fill the plot hole with my imagination, it's not that deep.
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>>217036399
Yeah i got the impression it was the real mindflayer, just some cheap imitation
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>>217036438
you're right, but I get the sense with her that it does apply. You could be right though. But also she has no concept of what life is like when you aren't expecting a few million dollars every year so I suspect she will still fall into the desperate for money category. But hey, if not, then good for her.
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>>217036450
if that scene was Mike's fantasy then why is she wearing clothes? answer me that, oh wait you can't.
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>>217036458
he needed them to be more powerful except when they escaped and he continued to be more powerful so that he could remain a threat to El.
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>>217036470
I wish I had shit-tier standards to enjoy this slop like you. Multiple points in the finale i thought "this is actually shit", but it still went on and still provided shit.
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>>217036458
I'm going to assume that Mindflayer dust in humans (specifically kids) gives them powers, and having enough of them being mind controlled allows the Mindflayer to move it's body through their powers.
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>>217036458
to move the planet and power the spider i guess?
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>Steve saying Eddie died for nothing
>Robin joking about how no one even knows if the UD air is toxic or not
>Kids going "Wait why aren't there tentacles and demos here?" while in the abyss
Why the fuck are the writers making fun of their own shit?
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>>217036496
So like does he consume the kids? Is the powerup permanent? It was so fucking vague. I thought he needed them to merge the worlds. And then they exited his mind but were still hooked up to him because they were still tied up...??
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>>217036504
My genuine advice is stop thinking about what things could be or things aren't and start thinking about what you actually enjoy about them. And if you genuiely didn't enjoy anything about what you watch then that's fine you can go and watch something you actually enjoy.
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>>217036458
He was was sad and wanted frens ):
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>>217036533
It's called lampshading. And it's gay.
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>>217036510
>having enough of them being mind controlled allows the Mindflayer to move it's body through their powers
Its so fucking funny that they pulled this out of their ass with like 2 episodes to go.
>oh yeah the whole plot of the last 5 seasons is pretty much irrelevant, it was always about the mindflayer abducting kids
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the show is over, faggots. Time for your general to go away.
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>>217036477
I interpret her being good at social media as being savvy and understanding how it works, not some kind of pathology.
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>>217036549
Wasn't expecting a genuine response, I rescind my judgement, you're alright anon.
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>>217036536
the logic was that he can have them hooked up in his Abyss palace but he needs their consent to actually use them to power stuff. did it feel contradictory? yeah.
all of this would be less of a problem if they hadn't already defeated him a couple of times in season 4. they strung the story out for too long.
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>>217036470
i was totally zoned out of it about halfway through
the epilogue wasn't too bad (especially the hopper/mike scene) but it was too long
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fuck you, she cute
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>>217036606
she looked really good in the epilogue
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>>217036606
I agree.
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>>217036583
S4 really killed all momentum in the show. There's no wanking around El's powers coming from Henry but somehow she's more powerful.

>when you girlboss your way into trashing your lore
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>>217036606
>dress her feminine for once
>drastically looks better
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>>217036606
vaguely fuckable for someone twice her age
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>>217036606
>Robin hit the wa-ACK!!!
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>>217036606
What happened to Vickie
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>>217036652
Anyone we don't see in the finale was killed by Sarah Conner.
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>>217036652
>he thinks relationships at ~20 last
kek
>he thinks lesbian relationships ever last at any age
lmao even
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Who had the longer ending, Stranger Things or Return of the King?
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Worst season finale since WW2
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should I watch this show after getting all the spoilers?
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I like the character itself, but the actor is a fucking lunatic who said far pro-israel shit about jews should enslave everyone and he gets hard off watching dead bodies
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>>217036688
he's just like me
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>Purple Rain album is 44 minutes long

So it took them the greater part of an hour to set the bomb and get out of the UD? Were they going 5 miles an hr?
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Why did Vecna abandon the whole mind control idea? Seemed awfully more effective at seizing control than this flesh spider thing that would job to a singular fighter jet.
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>>217036687
I only watch it to see that shit through, I don't really care about the story or characters anymore.
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>>217036688
Apparently he wasn't playing a character then, he just started to say things and they started filming it
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>>217036703
To give his enemy something they can fight. Same reason he didn't just kill Will.
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>>217036703
Moreover, what exactly was Vecna's plan? Yes, merge the two worlds, but then what? Chill out and watch all the monstrosities destroy the rest of humanity?
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>>217036703
Best season to be honest, the duffers ran out of good ideas after that and introduced vecna.
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>>217036716
they still haven't addressed this
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>>217036688
the character and actor are both putrid dog shit and I couldn't stand whenever he was on screen
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>>217035411
>It was me, I did it. I wanted it. We are one and the same.

>laughs in Mindflayer
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>>217036708
I want to hear if mystery elements are so much important to show because I dont think I will sit through 42 episodes knowing what happened in the end otherwise
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>check out my faggot friend!
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Ok so what was the deal with the cave scientist guy.
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>>217035411
>he is just a kid who was manipulated by a monster
>Gets a decapitating death even after monster is killed
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>>217035436
No, the spin-off will be a comedy series with Holly's crew playing D&D, with the occasional visit from Uncle Steve. Derek will be comic relief, kinda like Screech in Saved by the Bell.
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>>217035446
They found exotic matter in the rock which connected to the mindflayer via a wormhole
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>>217036749
They were up to season 3 or so, then it becomes nonsense.
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So why did Will have to out himself in front of everyone again? Oh right, Netflix.
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>>217036749
mystery elements are absolutely central to the show working. it was originally not even planned to be more than one season and they likely never planned to explain all the lore, at least not in a plot using all the same cast of characters that also needed to try to have proper character arcs.

it's very much NOT a show where the reveals are as good as the suspense of not knowing (Dark mostly is, watch the subtitled version of that instead).
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>>217036720
>kept going on about merging worlds
>figured it would be like any number of those stories where dimensions merge in like a quantum event type deal
>what actually was going to happen was the two upside downs were going to smash together then somehow that affects the real world
The "merging" would have destroyed the exotic matter and the wormhole anyway. Everything is stupid.
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>>217036720
I think the mind flayer wanted that, it's like a virus that wants to invade other things, it got everything in the Abyss and as soon as he got a hold on something outside of the Abyss he was like "Well damn, that's the jackpot".
Vecna thinking it's HIS plan is bullshit, he was being mind controlled for like 30 years, even if you can resist no way you can resist 24/7 for that long.
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>>217036720
what monstrosities? the abyss is empty
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Vecna died like a bitch.
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>you fucked with the wrong Stranger ™ ® © Things™ ® ©
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>>217035748
I teared up a bit when Mike was telling the story that El might still be alive. Shitty writing aside, these kids grew up with me and it was a bit sad to see them go.
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>>217036105
There was a stage play?
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>>217036784
According to the play, he essentially gives up for breaks down back in HS a the play. By the time we see him in the lab, he's already been mindfucked since then.
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fucking derek is stronger than vecna
god what a pathetic villain
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>>217036812
Underage get out.
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>>217036220
>Just finished watching. It was vastly better than Game of Thrones, at least.
The bar can't be set that low
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>>217036753
My theory is that the mindflayer, as per usual with immortal alien hiveminds, expels spores into space and on meteors and shit. They spread around the galaxy and eventually some of the billions it spread around end up on planets with whatever the fuck it wants from planets, who knows, maybe it just needs biomatter, or souls, or zinc, or whatever. It consumes all the things it wants from the planet it's on and then goes into hibernation waiting for the spores to activate and in this case start to psychically signal back to the mindflayer that earth is a good destination, starts doing it's mind control business, and what it needs is something like beings that it can make a strong enough psychic connection to the destination planet to open a wormhole big/stable enough for it to physically travel through and get in.
In this case, the spore was also discovered by scientists and they were also attempting to study it.

I haven't rewatched any of the show, I have no idea how consistent this idea is.
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Was Derek's family kept tied in the barn the whole time?
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Is the chick with hat Robin?
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>>217036780
I didnt understand. do you mean the show is unwatchable with spoilers despite the ending being shit?
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Nobody will remember this show in 2 years
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>>217036782
>The "merging" would have destroyed the exotic matter and the wormhole anyway
Holy fucking shit youre right
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Why is the giant spider crab mindflayer more vulnerable to small arms fire than a fucking demogorgon?
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>FUCK THE SYSTEM!
>Iron Maiden starts playing
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>>217036859
If the worlds are merged, you don't need the wormhole.
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>>217036606
this scene was so fucking bad
steve is the only one of them who can act and he's just acting like himself because he's steve irl
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>>217036846
>it's a side profile shot of noah showing off his transformation into a goblin
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The Vecna stuff never really mattered, the show is character/personality mix centric.
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>show started in 2016
>whole hook was appealing to gen x/early millennial nostalgia about the 80s (ghostbusters, 80s music, etc)
>minimum age of 40-45
>those same people are in their 50s now because it took 10 years to do 5 fucking seasons
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>>217036873
The Abyss literally needs the wormhole to cross into their world
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>>217036873
It would have been destroyed before the merge happened.
Like, "system crash at 0.4s before launch" type of thing.
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>>217036853
I don’t remember it now
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>milf with claw scars on her chest
hot... raaaaawrrrrr.....
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>>217036356
Is that why they mentioned the New York place at the end? Hopper did.

Maybe a spin off?
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>>217036836
Its interdimensional and mindflayer wants to takeover everywhere I guess
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>>217036890
The hook was kids dealing with the supernatural. Then it took 10 years and they clearly weren't kids anymore so they tried to reintroduce the youngsters again with Holly's group. Naturally this was the best aspect of the new season.

This wasn't helped by the Duffer's never having a clear idea of the mythos. They changed the rules whenever they felt like it.
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>>217036908
Nah the briefcase is related to that fuckass play. The place hopper mentioned is related to this
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Project
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>>217035411
At least the cast and crew got to enjoy the finale together
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>>217036937
Where's lucas?
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>>217036937
Umm
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>>217036889
And that's why the last good parts of the show were Steve and Robin in the mall.
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>>217036949
>>217036955
omg. fucking lol
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>>217036931
My eyes twitch every time I hear about this fucking play
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Wet fart ending
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>Henry remained evil
Thank god
I really thought the finale would swing into even worse territory if this fucker had a last minute turn and the 1+8+11 thing would've happened.
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>>217036806
He also got jobbed by an 8-year-old girl before he even entered the abyss. He's always been a bitch.
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>>217036998
I only learned about it after Thanksgiving and after looking up a plot summary I instantly knew the rest of the season was going to be shit.
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do the monsters make you gay?
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>>217036937
>Hey Millie want to come see the fin-
>FUCK OFF
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>>217036852
if you know exactly why the ending is shit in advance it leaves little reason to watch the show.
you might benefit from torrenting it and skipping ahead to specific interesting-sounding scenes. before season 5 a lot of the highschool character drama stuff is good.
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>>217036927
>they tried to reintroduce the youngsters again with Holly's group. Naturally this was the best aspect of the new season.
Holly's group sucked other than Derek. It made no sense that they would all immediately fall for his shit and especially that Holly would fall for it despite what she saw. The only reason it could have worked is if Holly was her original age (she should be 7, but her actress is 14)
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>>217037048
I much prefer the S4 setup of he was thrown into the Upside Down, and then using his powers he reshaped it into what it was since the start of the show and all the monsters were just his creations.
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>>217036998
Same.
>hey what's the deal with-
>"OMG DUDE IT'S EXPLAINED THE PLAY UGH SO CLUELESS"
>what's henry's-
>"DUDE THE PLAY"
>how does brenner know anything about this
>"WATCH THE PLAY DUDE"
I fucking hope my spite manifests and the theaters burn down. Yeah great cool story critical platform exclusive DLC for a show, fantastic.
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>>217037073
based millie
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>>217035748
The Purple Rain bit got me
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>>217035748
Because the performance is utter wank?
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Finna re-watch seasons 1-3 the good seasons
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>>217036904
Mr Wheeler eviscerated and thrown across the room,
>Nah, he's fine.
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>>217037085
Why couldn't they just hire kids again. Having actual kids in S1 is what made it so special.
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>>217037105
>please give Netflix more viewer minutes!
>look other people on 4chan are rewatching it!

nah i'm good
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the way she got that weird momentum i thought she did like a double jump dash somewhere inbewteen shots dante style kek
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>>217035748
Billy was still the best villain this show had
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>>217036904
I feel like a woman like her would cover up those scars. They're pretty gnarly.
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>>217035632
That looks ridiculous
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what does he eat?
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This show is nothing but contrivances and that is its biggest sin. It feels like the writers write backwards, with an end goal in mind, and then they just make shit up to get characters there while ignoring anything previously established that could get in the way. We need the characters to determine that the upside down is actually a wormhole? Just have Dustin find a book about it that explains everything. We need our heroes to effortlessly kill Vecna and the Mindflayer? Let’s just forget that Demogorgons exist and not have them interfere with the final fight. Our heroes have been caught by the military and are likely to be imprisoned? Uhhh…they let them go free after El seemingly dies since uh…they were only really after El! We need Vecna to be preoccupied with something for the entire season so our heroes have all the time in the world to come up with a plan, arm themselves, and then execute the plan? He needs to kidnap kids and babysit them for a couple of days before his plan to merge the worlds can take place. Seriously, almost every single story beat in this show is contrived. Add in no stakes thanks to literally every character having plot armour, dialogue just being exposition dumps and usually done using props, and is it any wonder this season is being poorly received?
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>>217036549
NTA but the awful dialogue repeatedly takes me out of any otherwise enjoyable moments, among lots of other big misses. If you've consumed anything decent it's hard to enjoy really shitty media
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>>217036904
Mikes dad is based and has a hot wife
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>>217037048
>rewrite show to incorporate a play
>play makes it clear henry isn't evil, just changed by the mindflayer
>show then disregards this
Of course you could say he was still controlled by the mf and that's what he'd say.
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>Milwaukee gay bar
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>>217037073
She was probably banned because she went all ME TOO with David Harbour, so the rest of the cast told her to fuck off.
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>>217037142
>from this to that with no explanation
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>>217037154
The David Harbour thing was over "bullying" right? Would've loved to see that honestly.
>hey kid fucking botox make you forget how to act?
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I kinda liked the ending credits with the drawings over David Bowie's "Heroes", but you know they totally stole that bit from Lord of the Rings.
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Is Will top or bottom?
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>>217037154
MBB has publicly acknowledged that she couldn't wait for the show to end.
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>>217037105
>season 3
>good
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>>217035411
i literally had to ff half of it, it was so full of cringe
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>>217037175
definitely a bottom
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>Nancy and hop aren’t arrested by the police for murdering government officials
>Gang aren’t charged with breaking and entering several times on government property
>The Abyss ran out of monster apparently, completely empty besides from MF Doom and Vecna
>Hivemind no longer applies to the bats, bats are gone in the upside down too, stepping on the vines does jack shit despite Vecna being plugged into the hive
>Constant flipflopping of who is in charge between MF and Vecna until the final hour
>Kill off Kali (I.E the character that was basically introduced this season just like bob/russian/Eddie) and Eleven (Same fate as S1 so this shit just went full circle)
>Main villain backstory is IRL DLC
>All the fakeouts without having the balls to go through with them
I’m not going to pretend there weren’t some good moments but man, what a shitload of fuck
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>>217036105
>I blame the stupid stage play. It ruined everything S4 had built up and explained.
The literally retcon S1, where Hopper says nothing ever happens in the town.
That nigga and Joyce literally experienced shenanigans when they were teens and didn't put two and two together. Why? BECAUSE IT CANT BE CANON. But it is, and it was stupid to make it canon.
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>>217037175
>this is what teenage girls get off to these days
Back in my day it was Robert Pattinson.
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>>217037085
It was fine until the last episode because, yeah. Even 7yo kids aren't that stupid or gullible. I guess that's what the duff's are relying on, people believing kids are that dumb.
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>the mindflayer is a dangerous incorporeal smoke monster!
>nvm you can just kill it with guns and fire now lol
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>>217035411
All the things I've seen about this season look terrible, I think I may skip watching it to avoid ruining the show like GOT did.
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>>217037164
that's just a psychic projection i guess
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>>217037048
You think that’s a good thing but it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t give him a redemption because it’s faster to just have him go ‘nah I’m evil as hell’ and then kill him, instead of trying to film a moving redemption scene. The whole final fight was so incredibly rushed. It makes you wonder what the fuck they were so afraid of to begin with.
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>>217037164
that looks so much better. like the spoopy thing from the mist ending.
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>>217035446
nonsense, when you string up the whole story with eleven sending henry to upside down, it makes zero sense
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>>217035632
wow what happened to Maya Hawke
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>>217036631
Peasant blouse and overalls
Gtfo
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>>217035495
I think she made a second face somewhere near the end of the finale
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>>217037197
my favorite part was how Nancy went in with 3 different guns while four other characters were armed with basic shit or nothing at all.
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>>217036889
Then why do the character moments also suck?
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>>217037167
She seemed like an adhd riddled kid or whatever back when she was younger or just always having energy and annoying. Harbour probably told her to cool down or something and she flipped out. She was definitely a posh kid who never got told no.
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>>217037203
no, it appeared as a weird cloud to Henry too. It's clearly a cloud entity so it cant be dead just because a henry flesh monster mix dies
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They should have played a Bobby Brown song as an inside joke and a subtle dig at MBB.
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>>217035632
assault rifles are very dangerous.

but that's a hole too because Hopper could have 100% shot up the helicopter and reactivated El and Kali using the rifle he had.
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>>217037167
>hey kid fucking botox make you forget how to act?
kek
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>>217036846
I will never understand how you faceblind retards get through life.
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>>217035603
She should've stayed some big boss not go to every single place with the assault squad
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>>217037203
While the Will scenes were, it did actually look like that too.
Pretty sure this is my favourite shot of it.
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>Kali's gang was so hated they are literally killed offscreen

Based
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>>217035613
>all the dying pregnant women that were probably still there.
Somehow everybody forgot about those
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>>217036533
Because they literally "wrote" it last minute and had no idea what to do despite all those years between seasons.
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>>217037231
>makes her brother literally beg her to not hog all the guns so that he doesn’t have to go fight a demon unarmed
>the best she can give him is a flare gun and she’s annoyed about it
What a fucking bitch
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>>217036470
bot
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>>217037091
>>217036998
There was a subtle nod to the play, when Max said we have a play to catch or some shit.
It was meta humor amigo haha. You prolly missed it though because you missed the play. Should prolly watch the play.
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>>217037290
Oh yeah Mike is her brother.
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>>217037175
I don't see how he is top
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>>217036533
Because if you lampshade your own shit writing that means it's self aware and quirky!

They did the same thing with Holly's age being retconned.
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>>217036346
So where the fuck is this clip from, some other movie she did? Or is it actually after the credits lol
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I legitimately though there would be a mecha fight with Eleven controlling a giant golem made of rock
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>>217035603
>just gets away with it all despite several opportunities to kill her
>inb4 'someone new will just replace her'
I think fucking not.
...also Nancy killed soliders...shouldn't she (and Hopper) get the chair?
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>>217036643
unironically looks sexy here but in a twice her actual age milfy way.
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Why did they give Steve and Jonathan bizarre sexual tension in this season?

Why did they reverted i think Robin to bisexual status and make her to be pushy to him and talk out of nowhere of his fat hog ?
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>>217037190
What even happened in the stage play?
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>>217037307
From the ambiguous "is she alive or is it Mike cope" scene near the end.
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>>217035759
>They never did explain why all that shit only spawns in the Upside Down.
i'm pretty sure they said in the previous episode or one before that, that demogorgons and all the shit actually comes from the other world and that upside down is just a transit, a wormhole. so yeah, it makes no sense how come there are zero of those with the mindflayer
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I think it’s safe to say that the duffer bros are hacks. Literally just stringing viewers along for a fat paycheque. They knew this would’ve the final season so the quality wouldn’t matter, and so they just stood giving a shit.
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>>217037292
town ain't big enough for two gay quirk chunguses
there can be only one
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>>217037307
Before the credits, and may not even be real. Just wish fulfillment by Mike.
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>>217037311
Would have been more kino. They could have referenced the power rangers like 28 Years Later did.
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Why does Robin know Godzilla, it wasn't even a pop culture phenomenon till the 90s
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>>217037318
>muh soldiers
>2026
>still thinking anyone cares about zogbots
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>>217036998
>>217037091

Dude the Play isn't even canon anymore they retcon and ignore what it establishes. The play says Henry is teleported to dimension X which changes his blood type and he becomes psychic when he is somehow teleported back 12 hours later. After this he makes contact with the Mind Flayer who spends his entire teenager years trying to turn him.

Now its just he got infected by something and now has psychic powers and is controlled by the Mind flayer.
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>>217037274
This was a really bad backdoor pilot that I've seen only retards defend. It's so weird, the two plot points this episode drops is Eleven can get more powerful if she's angry, and that Papa is alive.
Yet in S4 when Papa does show up alive, they also make a point in a flashback to teach her she's more powerful when she's angry and flashes to the same memories again. It's so weird.
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>>217037292
One of Robin’s lines at the end is ‘nothing will keep our gang apart, not even overbearing girlfriends’. She’s not in the finale because they broke up for some fucking reason.
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>>217037337
As well as a nod to the audience.
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>>217037340
Godzilla movies started in the 50s. I'm sure 80s nerds were very familiar with them.
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New thread when???
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>>217037355
it's weird that those 2 40 year old men are hanging out with a bunch of young teenagers.
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>>217037351
>s4 retconned the mindflayer
>play retconned s4
>s5 retconned the play
I can't keep up bros.
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>>217037371
Robin isnt a nerd, thats the thing
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>>217035915
how's that an explanation, i can magically teleport you to alpha centaury, but how does that make a stone from there appear at earth? did they send a ship of geologists with teleporting apparatus by accident?
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I'm glad Henry committed to his goal. It shows leadership, determination and grit.
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Can someone give me QRD on the play retcons?
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>>217037391
She worked at a movie store. Of course she knows niche movies.
Holy hell guys its like you don't watch the show lol.
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>I die you die speech between Dustin and Steve
>this means they’ll both likely survive, but they wouldn’t have this speech if these two aren’t put in a situation where there’s a chance one of them could die
>actually they just defeat Vecna effortlessly with no real sense of danger
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wonder how many people actually got baited by that steve death tease
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Dude I have an hour left of this shit. If the jeet is the only one they killed, they are actually cowards.
This is the most inoffensive dribble I have seen.
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>>217037372
This is the last thread I’m afraid. Shows over and it flopped the ending. Any future threads made about this show will go straight to the archive.
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>>217037403
>when a mf doesn't understand leverage or moments.
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>>217037409
>Takes 50 minutes to get to Veccy
>The cast then proceed to any% speed run the final battle, effortlessly murdering an eldritch abomination in 4 minutes
Bad
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>>217037409
>steve and dustin stabbing this hundred foot tall spider with a knife tied to a stick
I was really close to just giving up at that point. had a complete "what the fuck am I even watching?" moment.
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>>217037409
>Steve falls off the tower and dies
>Dustin is crushed and goes full suicide mode
>Stays behind to make sure the bomb goes off

Better than what we got.
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>>217037231
my favorite part is she was shooting the mindflayer, ran out of ammo, shot it again, ran out of ammo, stopped shooting and accepted her death, then got a new gun and started shooting it when it was driven back
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>>217036379
>either because of her need for attention or her need for money
No, that's why we'll get a ST6 in a decade
>her popping up in comically bad trash
Oh, you already called it
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>>217037382
You forgot
>s2 retconned season 1
The mindflayer had no presence in the first season
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>>217037446
>>217037446
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Everyone is laughing at it, it's over, all their careers are done
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>>217037429
She is lol. They sort of kill Eleven but they couldn’t even fully commit to that.
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>>217037423
It's one of those moments where the writers accidentally soft locked themselves out of a dramatic scene having any weight.
Steve can't die by falling off a tower because it would have zero narrative weight at all and everyone would just be like "wtf was that... really?" if he did.
That locks the scene into him not dying, OR everybody thinking it was stupid so either nothing happens, or it's incredibly stupid and makes the scene not matter from that angle instead.
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>>217037473
Whatever it takes to sell Funkos, aye.
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>>217037423
I swear the spoilers I peeked said Murray dies.
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>>217037535
Why would they kill the only good character?
He is going to have a funko pop with his epic van.
Think of the merch sale revenue retard.
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>>217037301
>oh yeah I forgot they were related
kek I had this reaction two in the scene when Mike was asking her for a gun.
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>>217037586
his performance was just the same obnoxious sarcasm every scene. I liked him in earlier seasons too but he also ran out of rail
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>>217037535
He should have not had a grenade, and thrown himself into the helicopter blades to disable it and save El/Hopper.
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>>217035700
>scariest coolest incarnation of the MF by far was the s1 shadow form
>we barely fucking see it after s2
Ffs s5 would have been a bit more interesting if it actually LEANED into MF-Vecna rather than shitting it out in the finale
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>>217036998
Lol wut
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>>217037311
>we power rangers now
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>>217037329
Spells paycheck wrong
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>>217037340
Gtfo zoomer
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>>217037378
Thats the streets for you, stay in school kid
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shitflixfags should be gassed no exception



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