I don’t like them either btw, but what they did with them was super retarded in the show It was like the writers tried being sophisticated but lacked basic knowledge about any of the source material they were trying to twist This is Fallout: The Frontier levels of bad imo
>>217051578Adult Culkin is a charisma black hole.
>>217051578
>>217051615He has hapa babbies, they will pick up the torch in 2 decades and bring back honor to his name
>>217051631why did they do this?makes zero sense you could have average intelligence but you'd need max charisma
>>217051631Meaningless statistic btw that the player was never meant to see.
>>217051578Everything in that show is so over the top, the Fallout games had that great balance of seriousness and absurdity, but the "bad guys" in that show are all terminal retards. The situations makes no sense, there are no stakes, there are genetic dead ends all over the place, and the cherry on top: it's not even funny.
>>217051631How did a literal tard make the legion thenThey should’ve given him 10 luck or something if they wanted to pull that offMake him like a Lord Timothy Dexter style guy in the wastes
Should have cast this nigga as a ghoul
Question for those who are brave and watched this and somehow still retain your sanityHow exactly IS the legion portrayed? I’m assuming they’re turbo incels who rape a lot (except Lucy of course, that’s too far for some reason) and get kicked/shot in the balls a bunch by women getting their vengeance or something idk
>>217051578>Why does Todd hate the legion so muchbecause he can't claim any responsibility for making them
>>217051721They left glorious Caesar’s body to rot in the open for I’m assuming years because he is a spooky skelington by the time Lucy shows up >bravo todd
>>217051721They're retards.
>>217051942But in a lore accurate way tho? Or incompetent writing kinda way
>>217051578The Frog clearly understood what Prima Noctis was, ut she didn't understand that C in Latin is pronounced like a K sound?
>>217052064>mfw Caesar isn’t a salad
>>217051962They don't get much screen time. They're in a civil war over Caesar's body which is on a mound running between their camps.
>>217052096Sweet, op post is correct then
>NV implies Legion with facture without Caesar >it fractures without Caesar Why are people angry about this?
>>217051578The Legion is retarded in game to the point where it's impossible to take anybody seriously when they say New Vegas is well written
>>217051578He is so ugly.
>>217051682>and it’s not even funnythe games have a good balance of taking the story seriously and also having elements that are satirical and goofy. Tv writers have no sense of balance or world building. It’s all just cheap audience pandering.
>>217052125I always joined the NCR, what made the legion so dumb?
>>217052221Fascist bootlicker
>>217051578Because you're a retarded manchild that thinks the writing was good.
>>217052292I don’t, since the first line makes it clear I think the legion is dumbImpressive how you missed that
>>217051631What a stupid build. This is like a little kid made a character. What you do is something likeS - 4P - 9E - 2C - 1I - 9A - 9L - 9Then pump speech, small guns and lockpick and you will dogwalk every game, except 2 you might want to figure out how to pump 5 into charisma so you can eventually get 6 and have three buddies.
>>217052124This was my understanding of the Legion.>faction made up of savage, conquered tribes of the wasteland>held together purely through cult of personality and military victories (it's literally called Ceaser's Legion)>glorious unbeatable leader ends up dead>faction presumably splinters and dies out after the events of the gameIs this what happens in the show? What else were you guys expecting?
>>217051578Because he got ass raped when he was 6 by some fat jew
>>217051578>>217051615>Slowly takes off mask and helmet>Epic music cues the face reveal>The camera pauses for a long moment>>Clearly this is meant to be someone you recognise>>..............>>Not fucking clue who he isI thought he must be someone important from season 1, flicked to the recap expecting him shown there but he wasn'tIt was only when I flicked back to that scene and saw the x-ray saying it was Macaulay Culkin that I knew who it was.Were they really expecting people to recognise a burnt out childhood actor who took his money and disappeared after telling his parasitic parents to fuck off?>>217051942Speaking of retards, are the Brotherhood in the games also a bunch of asshole retards who can't help but piss about with grenades?
>>217053319And by games I guess I should ask their portrayal in FO1 & 2 and FO3 & Onwards separately.
Lucy didn't even get raped, was that really the legion?
>>217053468Watch operation sunburst on yutube It’s an hour long animation made some Korean fan about the BoS vs NCR
>>217051962nothing is lore accurate in this pile of shitits made for redditors
>>217051631Caesar untermensch legion
>>217053838>a legion of incelibate school shooters from inbred tribes that barely live past the age of 20There was so much the writers could’ve worked with to roast these guys in a better way
>>217051578>OP worships the le bad enemy faction with shallow writing instead of treating the legion what they were in the game. colorful bad guys with a passable storyyour own fault.
>mfw the video game show isn't EXACTLY like the video game every single frameHOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME!!
>>217053203>Is this what happens in the show? What else were you guys expecting?The grand civil war of Caesar's remnants are separated by a mound of dirt. Both of the new Caesar's thrones are within a literal stone-throw of each other. As always, people defend the "idea" of the show's plot points when the actual presentation is terrible.
>>217051578Is that collin mcclunky?
>>217054585This is extremely poor execution of an idea that was already put forth in FNV. Like why is he on a dirt mound? Wouldn't it make more sense if it was a funeral pyre or something he was being put onto and the final part was to read the paper?And the no man's land between them should be much larger. Or if it has to be this close, it would be the main tents on two opposite hills and the Caesar's body is like a DMZ where no one can get close to
>>217053203>>held together purely through cult of personalitySomeone's opinion on the Legion is a great way to filter retards. They literally worship Mars. The idea that Caesar would put his successor's name on a small slip of paper and not announce it, or tell his closest advisors (Lucius, Vulpes, Lanius) is completely retarded.
>>217051578fallout is stupid now
>>217052424this guy fallouts
>>217054585everything is so whimsical and unserious in this show
>>217053768>war never changes the animation That shit was so cash
>>217054585The show leans into the quirky chungessness of it all a little too much in my opinion. Everything has to be tongue in cheek and cute. And a lot of the villians end up being cartoonishly evil for no reason. I know Vault Tec in the game was obviously sketchy but the whole story-line of them blowing up the world for no reason doesn't make any sense. Also I didn't like the whole "your dad is now suddenly a murdering psychopath this whole time!" twist.
The NV writers didn't like the Legion either
>>217055216It made /v/ seethe for some reason, it was posted there yesterday and maybe 20% liked it a lot and the rest were angry as fuck Thread got deleted after a while
>>217051578Based Todd making troon vegas fangirls seethe. God Howard is back in my good graces.
Did nobody else notice the BoS panzergrenadier?
>>217055281at least they gave them the coolest safehouse, up in the hills like a badass survivalist.
>>217054351>colorful bad guys with a passable storyYeah, charging armed guys with machetes while wearing football gear for highschoolers is very sophisticated GTFO retard, lol
>>217057266I did but then felt like a nerd.
>>217054448They didn’t even research the games, stfu lolThey’re using the setting as a cash cow for idiot like (you) to clap at
>>217055830>tRod is short for Rodent
why was his voice so soft? was weird and creepy.
>>217051631>litterally builds a militaristic cult that worships him and dies for him>charisma 4>Builds said cult through information gathered from books from the ground up while using years of knowledge of philosphy, history, anthropology etc>intelligence 4??
>>217057768Your 1 int 1 charisma minuteman general is building an empire too.
>>217055830Good morning, Sir.
>>217051578ok I was simping for the show, but I'll admit so far this season is complete shit. Telling an entirely unique story with new characters was fine. But weaving these characters into the new vegas game story while making every part of it the equivalent of an r2d2 cameo in a nustarwars flick is painful. Fuck these niggers I wanted peak NCR, and legion on camera, not oh look these factions are at death's door.
>um, ackshually it's see-saar, not kaiser, das germangWas the point to make Lucy seem utterly incompetent?
>>217058397I wonder if the writers even know she was wrong.
>>217058397What made you ever think Lucy was competent?
>>217051578Everybody with a brain should hate the Legion.
>>217058434>>217058465It's actually proof of her Vault-Tec Education and their determination to rewrite history.Bravo Todd.
>>217051631he has brain cancer affecting INT checks against him you fucking moron.
>>217058203That the ncr and legion even are still a thing at all is pure fan service so slop it up.
>>217051721it's pretty accurate, and about what you would expect to happen after the original caesar dies. when calkin appeared I expected him to be a quirk chungus but he plays just a guy
This isn't all of them.This is just those retarded enough to stay and fight in the mojave. The rest of the main characters will have grouped back to where the real hold outs are.Ceasar from the game is legit Dead, we see his body.Also They are using the right from of Latin, Lucy is actually wrong. They are pronouncing it the Roman way.
>>217051682>>217052179It’s because all these modern shows the writers rooms are full of brown foreigners now
im glad they scaled it down for the tv show!
>>217051721To show that know it all vaulties are dumb, even their best.They aren't smarter, they just happen to be clean.It also shows that the Legion isn't incompetent, that at least previously with Caesar there was knowledge but mr.House is right.Without him, the legion will be left to infighting/civil war. He was right.
>>217058711>Storm a legion strong point in the game>Theres about 8 guysSeems upscaled to me.
>>217054585Why doesn't one group just toss a bunch of grenades at the other side?
>>217051578>Why does Todd hate the legion so muchBethesda hates that 76 ruined their reputation, NV is still more popular with diehard fans and Fallout 1 and 2 are still more highly rated. The entire show is an attempt to erase any connection between future properties and previous ones to create a new, lower baseline of what consumers should consider quality.The seethe from staffers about the Bethesda-backed West Virginia fan event failing to gather any attention, while the Goodsprings event grew significantly larger, is pretty funny.
>>217051634Lmao
>>217051578corporations dont trust the audience to hate the bad guy enough or in an appropriate manner, so they really have to make them one dimensionally evil and incompetent so they're immune to being cheered on. the elites learned their lesson with 2019's joker
>>217058858I don’t think they actually want to kill each other. They’re still both the Legion. They just disagree on who the ruler should be and recognize fighting each other outright would weaken them both in the end. It’s only when the explosion happens is it enough for them to decide it’s on.
>>217051578Legion is my favorite faction and I'm surprised that they didn't get all that fucked from Todd's writing like I expected. Yes, the way the succession crisis is done doesn't really make any sense (pretty sure Caesar would have announced who gets to inherit), but overall it's not that bad. NCR profligates got it a lot worse.
>>217055228>The show leans into the quirky chungessness of it all a little too much in my opinion.way too much. Couldn't stomach this shit for more than 3 episodes before tapping out
>>217059433>corporations dont trust the audience to hate the bad guy enoughThis is well-documented, though. When audiences repeatedly latch onto the villain as the hero, you try to change to make sure they understand who is villain.They will still identify as such, because their alignment is apriori based on politics, but it make it so they have to align with more and more obviously terrible characters.
>>217051687It's because the 86 tribes he conquered were literally dumber than he was.They did not even know the Roman empire was at its height thousands of years prior or that he wasn't the actual original Caeser (Julius)>>217051721Accurately. Bunch of tribespeople larping as romans in football gear. Did exactly what House would said in New Vegas, they fractured.
>>217059618>When audiences repeatedly latch onto the villain as the herosome people probably legitimately do, others likely as a way to farm engagement on social media by being controversial. we're just more aware of these subsets because of the internet. but instead of accepting that there will probably always be segments of the population like that, i guess we'll just make black and white cookie cutter good guy/bad guy narratives from now til kingdom come because everyone is so neurotically obsessed with social engineering
>>217058397Because she is naive. Her knowledge comes from limited information of a select number of books and movies. But it's also a joke that in New Vegas itself, Caeser is pronounced 4 different ways.
>>217059673>some people probably legitimately doPlenty do, especially here on 4chan. Thanos, Koba, that guy from Inglorious Basterds the Bear Jew brained. There is a long LONG history of "____ did nothing wrong.">i guess we'll just make black and white cookie cutter good guy/bad guy narratives from now til kingdom come because everyone is so neurotically obsessed with social engineeringIt only bothers you because you are obsessed with social engineering.
>>217059733>It only bothers you because you are obsessed with social engineering.yes, im obsessed with it because i happen to notice it occurring, but the ones actually doing it arent obsessed at all I can guess from your passive aggressive bitch like argumentation that you think im a legion fanboy who side with them them cause they hate women and are heckin based, but i've literally never even picked them once and usually kill them in my runs. i just liked that in FNV they had certain qualities that could seem appealing, which makes them more compelling as villains, but we can't have nuance anymore because of fags like you
>>217052124>>217053203Those are both the opinions of Mr. House and an oversimplification.Without Caesar, the Legion would lose the drive to take over the Dam. This is what happens when you [100] Persuade Legate Lanius at the end when you oppose the legion. Lanius and the rest of the Legion don't share Caesar's vision and don't think that the Dam or the NCR is worth the amount of casualties to take it by force.The Legion isn't destined or doomed to fracture, they are doomed to decline. Without constant military victories, the legion will shrink and weaken, but they aren't retarded. They will maintain a certain level of strength and won't progress until another visionary leader.This also happens with the NCR as a mirror btw. If the NCR can't take Vegas, they will be thrown into infighting and corruption due to the perceived waste of attempted expansion. They don't collapse or fracture, but their power is blunted until they can figure shit out and a leading faction rises (water barons, some political party, etc).That's why the writing on the show sucks. They can't fathom a scenario where either extreme doesn't happen.
>>217059799>but the ones actually doing it arent obsessed at allYes, they are. you are one of them, as you just admitted.>whiny bitchingFaggot.>i just liked that in FNV they had certain qualities that could seem appealingAnd then that "appeal" became "they are in the right".And that has overwhelmed so much that writers dont want to make their villains have any appeal at all.Congrats - you fucked yourself.
>>217059843>pattern recognition=obsessionthat must mean you're obsessed too then if you're noticing my obsession. yes, writers are neurotic reactionary fags now who care too much about audience perception rather than organically putting down a story from pen to paper, thank you for reiterating my point. and like the writers, you fail to understand that removing moral complexity in characters doesn't likewise remove the impetus in people to sympathize with them, and in fact people are even more willing to side with bad guys now to spite moral crusaders like yourself. Congrats - you fucked yourself
I don't get why Caesars legion is so cocksucked. It's an undercooked gay faction full of faggots.
>>217059886>that must mean you're obsessed tooYes. My autism has me obsessed with hypocrisy and pointing out when people are stupid.>writers are neurotic reactionary fags now who care too much about audience perceptionSo...they shouldnt care about what you say. Got it.>Congrats - you fucked yourselfLol, cant think of anything original? Yet you want to criticize professional writers?
>>217059929What hypocrisy have you pointed out? I'm in favor of allowing the audience to come to a conclusion themselves rather than being heavy handedly herded to it. Noticing writers doing that, which you yourself readily admit is happening, is somehow making myself guilty of that very action? >So...they shouldnt care about what you say. Got it.They already don't care about what I say, now they shouldn't care what everyone else says too, including morons like yourself. >Lol, cant think of anything original?It's called mockery. I'm mocking you because you're exceedingly dumb, or more likely arguing in bad faith
>>217051578its sad to see season 1 of fallout they didn't know they had a hit on their hands but then in season 2 they fumbled the bag so bad its not the same show
>>217051578Todd wants Fallout to be Mad Max and nothing else. He wants raiders in punk haircuts and biker clothes. Anything like "what if someone tried to rebuild the US" or "what if someone took a bunch of raiders and built them into a force of conquest" would imply that Fallout would cease to be a Mad Max wacky wasteland. The ONLY group that's allowed to exist is the Brotherhood of Steel, and ONLY because power armor is on the box art.
>>217059922I think the reason is twofold:>it's reactionary and anti-NCRIf you're a political chud then you don't like liberals and the Legion are anti-liberals. Your other option is House, and he's basically just a casino slum lord with a technology fetish.>it's the evil route factionSome people like evil routes.I personally dislike the Legion, but I think it should have gotten enough content like it was intended to rather than the bare minimum we got. There's no point in doing the Legion route because it's just "betray everyone you've ever met for no real reason" much like Fallout 3's "poison the water supply" route. Half of the justification for the Legion is locked away behind lore that may as well not be canon.
>>217059922Because Legion is objectively the best faction and niggers like you belong on a cross
>>217060078>our faction has literally 0 ideals because we're all buttfucking buffoons who need a cancer riddled faggot to tell us what we believe today.The Boomers have it more figured out than Caesars legion
>>217060096>our faction has literally 0 idealsRomanCrucify degeneratesFlay criminals100% whiteness0% crime rateWomen are at homeTransform the Wasteland into a moral, traditional societyWhat's not to like?
>>217060127>100% whitenessnot sure about that one champ
>>217051631just like /pol/
>>217060127>live in time and place where it's acceptable to dress lime a cowboy and carry a six shooter>voluntarily dress as a Roman legionaire with fox pelts and football pads in the fucking desertFaggot shit
>>217060171>MUH COWBOYSReddit speaking.
>>217060171
>>217051578It's very frustrating because they do tackle a good idea, which is the Legion splintering in rivaling factions after Caesar's death due to the matter of his succession, but they do so in the dumbest, goofiest way possible.You'd expect something like what happened to Alexander the Great's empire after his death; his generals would declare themselves heirs, not be recognized and split the empire into a bunch of kingdoms. Except here they just have Caesar's corpse on a hill, out in the open for 15 years, and two groups within a stone's throw of each other at war over who gets the magical note in his pocket that declares the legitimate heir.It's so stupid and simple, and it's impossible to take seriously. It's just another way the show has of making everyone on the wasteland a fictional retard. Can't take anything seriously ever, the serious scenes seem to be all reserved for Cooper's flashbacks.
>>217051662>never meant to seebruh...
>>217059843So this is the power of untreated schizophrenia.
>>217060171>>live in time and place where it's acceptable to dress lime a cowboy and carry a six shooterYou can do that right now in like 50% of the US outside your faggot city
>>217060242I haven't watched it so I can't say for sure, but that synopsis sounds just unbelievably stupid and farcical.
>>217060242And the note's going to be just "I am the Legion, I am the only Caesar."
>>217053319>>The camera pauses for a long moment>>>Clearly this is meant to be someone you recogniseI thought it was because he had a goofy ass face under that ornate mask instead of being some kinda badass.
>>217051658you've never needed neither charisma nor intelligence to make a cult in real life
>>217055228The show is written for normies. You think the average goyslop trough eater can't fathom anything deeper than this. If they actually gave Ceasars Legion a fair shake and made a serious concise presentation of who they are and how they came to be the people watching it would furrow their dim brows and call the Legion a allegory for Nazi Germany so instead they play into the more whimsical aspect of fallout to defuse the uncomfortable parts but it just makes it seem like a bad parody
Its just hard to care at all. Legion, NCR, Khans, they all are retarded/gone/castratated. Would be way cooler if the legion was a legit threat and not 50 guys in a camp. Same for the NCR. If you don't anything about fallout, the NCR was a small city state and is gone now. Why care? There isn't a cool overarching story. I don't give a shit about lucy chasing her dad. The world is so uninteresting
>>217061139Yeah, I just played to collect the unique items
>>217058397>see-saar>saarWas this a Tandi or Aradesh reference
>>217060336Most people in Arkansas look like ghoul >like withered walking beef jerky And occasionally they dress up like cowboys I guess
>>217061139>50 guys in a campWhy exactly is this show so expensive to make? Visually it looks like 90s daytime TV
>>217061259probably all the licensed music
>>217061259no idea, you'd think 19 mil per episode would get you some good visuals. But for the Legion scenes, I think the purpose was to just ridicule them. So you have them be just another bunch of small raiders stuck in a whacky situation that the player character would solve in some small sidequest.Can't have the legion be a thing because the NCR is also not a thing. Its just boring
>>217061222>ArkansasThis fits the description for pretty much everywhere west of the Missouri other than the faggot ass west coast proper, or the PNW.
>>217057768The charisma is just as dumb. He talked his way from prisoner in a tribe of savages whose language he could likely barely speak to leading them in battle
>>217061472>>217057768if charisma mattered we'd all be ruled over by actors and pop stars
>>217061139This sums it up. It's a theme park, there's barely any cohesion or sense of life. The world is stitched together by random bums just scrapping by, you never get the feeling that there's something other than hobos. The world feels really small in an unfulfilling way.>>217061472Graham was his translator
>>217051721They are in hot civil war and opposing HQ with new cesar pretenders sitting inside are literally in a rock throwing distance from each other.Oh, they also store lots of explosives like 5 feet from the throne of Kevins cesar so Goggins can be sooooo cool again
>>217058672I blame it more on women. Women just aren't funny, inherently. The only comedy women understand is in woe. They find it funny to make a bad situation worse, or make a bad situation begin. Theyre emotional parasites, not comedians.
>>217061771Oh anon…
>>217051631The only people upset by this are the ones that love his ideology. They don't know that they are as retarded as he is. I mean some retard has to be long of all the retards right?
ave, true to caesar
>>217058711Patented Gamebryo@Bethesda quality right there
>>217057266it has a balkenkreuz so i figured it was a ww2 trophy left at area 51
>>217052424end 2 is a bit much for 3d fallout desu seeing as its trivial to just abuse cover, stims, and the janky ass AI without turn based combat to force opportunities for them to shoot back
why would a slave ever voluntarily return to the legion?why wouldn't she at least warn lucy?
I find it rather funny that most of the current people on Bethesda who worked on 3 to 4 to 76 have all been around forever, it's just that they were all doing menial stuff on the original TES. But with time they rose up by virtue of not being talented enough to do work outside of Bethesda. It's such a sad thing to see not only a franchise being run by what are basically ascended staff writers but also that they never ever got any good at writing, they just stuck around
any good screencaps or webbums from the new season?
>>217060127He has monkey nose
>>217051578Todd hates anything he wasn't directly involved in makinghe tried to take ownership over the BoS, probably the only part of the original games he liked,, people didn't like what he did with them, so he destroyed them into a fraternity of retards.he destroyed the NCR, he destroyed the legion, he destroyed New Vegas, he brought the enclave back, again, only to destroy them, he made Vault tec into retards that destroyed the World, not to take it over, but to destroy it over and over again for no reason.Todd Howard really, really doesn't like Fallout, he doesn't like that the most popular game wasn't made by him, he doesn't like that the franchise is now bigger than Elder Scrolls, and he doesn't like that no matter how much he tries to make it unlikable, retards keep loving it.
>>217063418Emil Pagliarulo is a certified idiot, he only knows how to write stories about fathers, sons looking for fathers, fathers looking for sons, and now, a daughter looking for her father on the show, but plot twist, her father is le evil now!Letting him take over as stroy writer for this franchise is by far the greatest mistake on the vast list of mistakes Bethesda has made.
>>217063575Nah, Emil is a secret genius. He just doesn't care. The subtle hint was him voicing a character who scams you and calls you a retard
>>217063575Do you think Emil writes the show?
>>217051631>has giant fucking tumor in his brain
>>217053735>Lucy didn't even get rapedI know right, what a bait and switch.When the rescued woman said the rape word at the end of the previous episode I thought "Oh wow, Todd's going to reference the LoversLab mods"Oh well, at least he installed CBBE.
>>217063834cbbe base is for plebs and patricians used twb 3bbb
>>217051658Have you read history books? There's literal inbred retards that have been put in charge of empires because they have the right surname. He also has brain cancer.
>>217063575its genuinely bizarre how much todd sucks this guy off WHYeverything he does is shit
>>217063673Todd himself said Emil is involved in the show.
>>217052124the thing that bothered me the most is how small both camps looked. amazon have unlimited budget and they couldn't make it seem bigger? it legit fit into frame from up close
>>217064054Amazon wasted billion, with a B, on both the failed Lord of the Ring and Wheel of Time shows, now that Fallout is a success, they try to make it as cheaply as possible in order to recoup those loses.
>>217051578The fact any future game will now just follow the "canon" of the show, as stated by Todd, is fucking hilarious.Reminds me of when Marvel cancelled their animated show of the avengers and made that Avengers Assemble and "in the MCU" and the roster just became like 4 heroes and never any other marvel ones lmao. Makes it so diluted and linear. Also it seems like season 2 has been a flop in terms of viral stuff. The first one was everywhere. Already feels like some quick cut tiktok shit watching it and releasing it weekly was a mistake aswell. Completely forgettable now. Also turning the Ghoul into a faggot now whose almost dying in episode 1 and 2 just because people loved him in season 2.Thanks rothchilds.
>>217051721Nothing happens and they're barely seen. A decent first introduction with them torturing two people for epic reddit moment. But then after than its just 2 second shots of them in the background.
>>217051799why didn't just not show any of this shit? it's like Todd's dream to fuck with new vegas now and he can with the show. They'll probably have the couriers hanging skeleton in new vegas. Or some shit like Joshua Graham being killed by kids or some shit lol.
>>217063906Which is built off CBBEI always preferred UNP styled ones anyway
>>217064100>successi'm seriously starting to doubt that they're that successfull because Bethesda has also said Starfield has millions of active players same with Fallout 76. Whenever i see a big company that pushes out soulless garbage i just start to doubt whatever they say
>>217053319>are the Brotherhood in the games also a bunch of asshole retards who can't help but piss about with grenades?No, the show is jsut poorly written: they knew that scene was boring, it's just a bunch of actors talking and the director isn't talented enough to make it interesting, so they put that cheap humor in to entertain the audience. Unfunny show.
>>217063942Maybe read up on the character. He wasn’t part of some aristocratic lineage, just some smart kid who read books at the followers of the apocalypse compound and became a scholar, then found books on Rome, got captured by a small weak tribe in the rockies and through intelligence and charisma came to lead them against other tribes, conquering them one by one to create what became the legion
>we're going to primm!!!!>not really though>caesar's legion!!!>not really though>the kings!!!>not really though>mr house!!! lucky 38!!!>not really though>NCR!!!!!!!>not really though>Brotherhood Of Steel!>not really thoughwhat's the point of using source material if you don't respect it at all? the lore of fallout is almost endless, they could've done whatever and most of their viewers would've eaten it up anyway.
>>217064217>what's the point of using source material if you don't respect it at all?disrespecting it?
>>217051682New Vegas struck the best balance.1 was kind of dry.2 pushed the clownometer to overload.
>>217064217i would also argue that while Dinky is notable in Novac it really isn't the only thing about Novac that's interesting>>217064237it's strange to me that they'd spend millions on millions to do a half-ass job. to prove and hammer down that the Legion is the "bad guy" they... imply rape? really? do these people still think that being raped or raping is the nr1 worst thing a person can do?
>>217052124Having both factions still parked in the Hoover Dam camp years later was retarded.The Legions heartland is in Arizona and they conquered as far as Utah and Colorado.
>>217064217>>217064237The show could've easily been set on the east coast, or the midwest or somewhere where the previous games have'nt taken place, but no, it had to take place in California.this happened for two reasons, Todd is tired of his slop being compared to 1,2 and New vegas, so he destroyed their lore, and the second reason os just for people to see more recognizable stuff, since Bethesda has run this franchise for way longer than Interplay, but has failed to make anything memorable with it.
>>217064293that may be the reason but i also think Bethesda desperately needs a win because they've lost a huge chunk of their player base. doing the "wink wink nudge nudge" with new vegas references to get their fanbase back
>>217052124Maybe because there are good and bad ways to execute story beats?
>>217064104You can pretty much set your watch on the fact that Bethesda won't actually give a shit or about or keep track of any Fallout canon no matter what they say. Individual quest writers might do easter egg references but that's it.
>>217064311They've even thrown New Vegas stuff into 76 again, they've just said fuck Canon (which I don't care about anyway) but now it's time travel Canon shit where 76 has new vegas things in it now loll
>>217064217yeah I don't see why they didn't just """ignore"""" all new vegas stuff in terms of what players did and just essentially went around it to get to new vegas itself. like all the stuff that has (or hasnt) happened in the 3 episodes could have just not happened, but not its epic Canon so in fallout 5 you will hear about two legions having a gay epic little fight. Riveting..
>>217063942no emperor by his own hand would be a moron or lacking in charisma
>>217064244>2 pushed the clownometer to overload.How?
>>217051631NPC SPECIAL stats are basically meaningless, do you think that the superboss enemies 'seriously' have 10 in every stat? Because they absolutely do not in lore.
>>217061771Anon, I…
>>217064634temple of trialsghosttalking plant and scorpion that plays chesstalking deathclawshubologistsenclave president and vice presidentfive pop culture references per minute
>>217064549>>217064514another thing i noticed is how Mr House is pretty much just everywhere in person handling his own business. Isn't he the richest guy around? Couldn't he get some goons to talk to Cooper and to test out the mind control devices? Why would he put himself in danger every time?
>>217051578Imagine if they did a horror version of Home Alone with an older Culkin.
>>217064217they don't have enough time or competent enough writers to flesh these topics out in a hour episode. this format is inferior. they should just write a book and flesh this shit out. with AI and amazons funding they could make an incredible book series on fallout, but who the fuck reads
>>217064867there's a "fallout bible" somewhere online that was written by the original creators and was handed over to Bethesda for Fallout 3. This because they themselves were planning a Fallout 3 (Van Buren).
>>217062653>>217064755actors and anyone adjacent to them were considered subhumans until just a few years agothe charisma meme isn't real, sorry
>>217064820Imagine if they did a Home Alone but its played straight with an approaching middle age Kevin, married to a nagging wife and kids that barely notice him.And what do you know? He gets left behind from the Christmas trip againHe spends his time enjoying a breath of freedom, sliding around the house with his knob out, drinking beer, playing vidja, and wanking off into a sock.
>>217051687How did Trump create a legion of MAGAtards? You don't have to be exceptionally intelligent. You just need to tell people what they want to hear
