Is Robocop a perfect film?
>>217079193Yes
>>217079193no, robocop 2 is better.
It's no robocop 3
>>217079193yes except for one thing
>>217079193Its pretty goodI learned a lot about cocaine and one dollar hookers from that movie
>>217079193No but it's exceedingly excellent
>>217079331Collect my pages
>>217079331came here to say thisi love dick armstrong
>>217079291First Post Fucking Best Post
>>217079331Puppet had normal arms, it's just that the lens used for the fall creates distortion.They should have used the same effect from Die Hard, but maybe it was too expensive or wasn't invented yet.
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It’s weird, but the choppy stop motion for ED209 has actually gotten better with age for some reason. It really gives off an uncanny valley vibe, and adds a lot to it being both threatening, and incompetent at the same time.Also say what you will about the sequel, but that shot of Robocain rapidly climbing the elevator shaft is incredible
Im going to see this with my girlfriend this spring, its a 700 mile trip. My girlfriend is scared, she said "What if a group of unemployed black men with big cocks rape me in front of you?" and I didnt know what to say, just shrugged my shoulders. I'm sure it wont happen.
>>217079193>I'LL BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGIKnn-COS4
>>217079703Recently finished playing Rogue City. Really fun. Pure love letter to fans of the movies. Plenty of references to the films, and the look, sound, and feel were absolutely onpoint
>>217079758Why does this sound so incredibly good?
I always liked the way he says "Thank you!" when tossed his keys when he's going out to bust crime for the first time. It has a weird amount of personality behind it's inflection which is out of place for Robert Cop but funny nonetheless.
>>217079193best villain there ever was in a movie
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>>217079732Interesting to see videos "fixing" stop motion by adding more frames per second.The result is not bad, it just looks like a live-action puppet.But definitely something is lost in the process: the low framerate is a feature on it's own. I wonder how creepy can a live human be if stop-motioned.
That is Verhoven's arm when Robo takes off his helmet.
>>217079954I remember in a behind the scenes thing the actors were saying how Verhoeven didn’t realise that “bitches” was an offensive term, and just assumed it was a generic term for women. So when directing the scene he’d be like “and zen ze bitches you vill be on ze couch and zen ze bitches vill quickly run avay when ze bitches are told to leave” and the whole cast were barely containing their laughter
>>217079767It does definitely catch the feel of being Robocop down perfectly I just don't like how dialogue and cutscene heavy the game is plus all of the detective stuff also slows down the game heavily.
>>217079193Yes.
>>217080181Verhoven's also in the night club going crazy into the camera for 1 second
>>217079954>"Come on Sal: The Tigers are playing..." <drums table> "... tonight!">Serious face>"I never miss a game"
>>217080208I personally loved that. There was something so funny about issuing parking tickets and telling people to stop littering as robocop. And I think it was necessary to have those down-times to space out the shooting segments. Otherwise it would’ve gotten stale and repetitive
>>217079193yeah
>>217079331>all the makeup and every special effect in the movie looks fantastic>except for the main bad guy dying right at the end of the movieshould have cut that shot out entirely
Yes, it is. So for the love of god don't remake it.
>>217079402How many pages?
>>217080284anon…
>>217080284nobody tell him
>>217080273Absolutely. You actually get to see him do the job he was meant to do without all the chaos of the movie. I loved it
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>>217080305don't. at least one of us gets to remain in the blissful ignorance and for me, that's enough.
The scene where Murphy is killed still disturbs the fuck out of me more than most horror films do. It’s not the gore, it’s the way the villains are enjoying themselves, mocking him, humiliating him. It’s so cruel and dehumanising that it actually hurts my soul. Makes for a great final sequence seeing them all get killed, especially Clarence
>>217080273Yeah I like when you are just walking around the city dealing with basic crimes cause that does feel very Robocop but then when you have to roll into an apartment and the detective gameplay is "scan these three different things in the room" and you do that constantly in the game it starts to get old. Whenever it's gunfighting though the game is amazing. The prison level is goated
>>217079193I enjoy this film thoroughly
>>217079193the whole part of the movie is ocp wanted to replace humans with robots because humans might have a problem with the levels of corruption Detroit has. murphy was half human still
>the robber in the convenience store scene goes "WHY ME? WHY ME? WHY ME?" in the censored TV versionfunniest edit imaginable
>>217079954Detroits most feared CPA
>>217079314robocop 2 wasn't "better", it was more realistic and grimy. both were great for slightly different reasons.
>there are people on /tv/ right now who haven’t seen the penis destruction edit of “your move, creep”
>>217080422If only such a scene happened in Sacha Baron Cohen’s movie Bruno
>>217080421>robocop 2... was more realistic and grimythe only thing RoboCop 2 does better than 1 are the fake commercials
>>217080421The sequence with the failed Robocop 2s killing themselves was so good, as was the part where his brain is filled with dozens of stupid directives. Plus the stop motion sequences with RoboCain felt more intense than the ones of ED-209.2 has really good scenes, some stronger than the original, but they don’t flow cohesively like in the first one.
>>217080421>>217080486>>217080492how recently have you watched robocop 1? it doesn't hold up as well as 2 did for me. watched them again last year and 2 really hit the spot. 1 was purely getting by on nostalgic fumes, would have dropped if i wasn't looking forward to 2 so much.
>>217080422Kinda difficult to look it up, I know Fatal Farm did it and it's from 2011. Would make for a nice webm.
>>217080372I can understand what you mean. Personally I think it gave good variety, but I can see why some would find it repetitive.Prison part was great, so was the scrapyard with the landmines. Throwing goons halfway across the map and seeing them explode into a million pieces is so satisfying and silly
>>217080582To each their own. I think 1 holds up exceptionally well. 2 has some great moments, but like I said, I think as an overall film doesn’t flow nearly as well as the original
>>217080224>mfw
I haven't seen 2 because I refuse to watch sequels to pretty much any 80s movie. No, I haven't seen Aliens or Terminator 2.
>>217080641such a shame he stopped knowing how to make kino
>>217080690>he doesnt like KINOgirls
>>217080133>Interesting to see videos "fixing" stop motion by adding more frames per second.The problem is that it doesn't fix it at all. Adding in frames doesn't magically create additional movement from the puppet from one pose to the next. The only time a higher frame rate works is when it's recording new information, taking something that was originally recorded at 24 frames per second, then doubling the same frames and playing it back faster doesn't add new movement. It's just playing the shot at the same speed in fast forward.
>>217080688only thing past Alien worth watching is Prometheus, aliens and alien 3 are gay.t2 is whole lightyears better than 1.
>>217080492>>217080582>>217080622the comic book was the better version
Assuming Paul actually gets financing for Young Sinner and comes to the States, who could compose the film? There are no modern equivalents of Poledouris or Goldsmithhttps://youtu.be/yf9df0srMrE?si=lBOvSaXRC6LRotU5&t=74
>>217080133>Interesting to see videos "fixing" stop motion by adding more frames per second.what you're trying to describe is interpolation, where it will take frame 1 and frame 2, then divide the difference between them and insert a frame 1.5 so the change in frames has a smoother feel to them.i highly recommend turning this off on every SmartTV you ever interact with for the rest of your life not just your own.
>>217080720Nah, they use predictive motion smoothing
>>217080780interpolation literally always looks like shit and i genuinely dont understand the braindead tasteless cretins that swear by it
>>217080755rob dougan is a great composer when he chooses to composejames newton howard, howard shore, harry gregson-williams, john powell sometimes, these are all composers who would fit in the verhoeven weavethe composers for eddington, daniel pemberton & bobby klric, would do a solid job.
>>217080814it comes turned on by default on their tvs, if you turn it off they suddenly remember that their favorite shit actually looks better when it's playing back at the intended framerate.
>>217079703Very cool 7/10. Shame the standalone sequel is all action and less RoboCop robocopping around
>>217080780>what you're trying to describe is interpolationInterpolation is one thing, and can be beneficial, but a lot of the time I just see people literally doubling the exact same frames so the playback is at a higher frame rate.
And it won't even run down your battery!https://youtu.be/7U4ZYOBzEEs
it is the best movie of all timeit's not perfectit doesn't exactly have flaws, but the acting is generally clunky even though some of the actors are amazingnobody is actually bad. I love the movie front to backbut it's not perfect, and its simultaneous imperfection while being the best ever is something we can all learn a lesson from
>>217079193>entire thread unanimously loving this commie movieEither you're all commies or you're too retarded to get what it's about.
>>217081046It's about a big metal guy who shoots people and makes them explode
>>217081046counterpoint:da da da da da, da da da dada da da da da daaaaa
>>217080894that doesn't impact the playback. if you have a big black circle in frame one O and a small circle in frame 2 o when you take frame 1 and double it now you have O O o. it's still playing back at 24fps, you don't see the 2nd O, you see the same O doing the same thing it was doing the whole time before you arbitrarily added a 2nd frame of it.the only way to see a frame 1.5 would be for the O to be doing something other than what frame 1 is doing.
>>217079193that fact that they made 2 and 3 makes me say no
>>217081046>seething thirdie mad at Big Thirsty American Cars
>>217081128>you see the same O doing the same thing it was doing the whole time before you arbitrarily added a 2nd frame of it.Exactly. But some people seem to think just adding more frames = better.
>>217079193Maybe, but Verhoeven has at least 6 or 7 better movies.
>>217081046taking down a corrupt ceo in a dystopian future where corporations run the world is communism?
>>217079331You should watch this, it's really good. And they talk about that scene. From what I remember they used a different artist who wasn't involved with the rest of the special effects in the film.
>>217079193The toxic waste victim was inspired by the incredible melting man 1977 and it's one of the worst and pretty downer movies ever made. Thats scene makes me wonder what if anything could be done for that guy. But great movie
>>217081239best use of 4 hours you can find right here. i think they got literally every single still living actor/production member to be interviewed, its kino
>>217081015>it doesn't exactly have flawsI think it is a 10/10 film, but here's one. When he takes off the helmet, the black piece under his chin disappears. Verhoeven said no one will notice, and he was right.
>>217081242>if anything could be done for that guy.He's the main bad guy in the 1994 TV series and called Pudface. In the TV version of the movie, they didn't show his death, it got cut. So, when making the TV series, they decided it could be canon that he survived.
>>217081323That's not really a flaw, especially when no one notices like he said.That's like saying the shadow growing when Robocop approaches the rapists was a flaw because logistically it wouldn't work that way if he was getting closer to them but they did it like that anyway for stylistic reasons (and again, no one noticed)A technical FLAW would be when you can see Weller's human neck between the costume pieces in some shots
>>217081387https://robocop.fandom.com/wiki/Pudface_Morgan
>>217081387I heard of the show but never got around to seeing it. Is there a decent torrent out or is it all standard VHS quality?
>>217079193Why are cyborgs considered attractive? I don’t understand.>no dick>no balls >no visible eyes >weird voiceDo you seriously find this attractive?
>>217081532it was on hbo max sometime ago, not sure if it's still there, but it should be at least 720p
>>217081681Thanks mate, I'll have a look in a moment.
>>217081532There's a DVD box set, but they used to play it on the Comet channel and that's where I watched it.The pilot episode is movie length and actually based on an unused script for the sequel. After that, it's really more of a kid's show. Robocop doesn't use his gun. But there are still some enjoyable episodes. Pic related is the Nancy Allen of the live action TV show, although she's not supposed to be the same character. There's also a female character that gets killed and turned into AI, which is kind of cool.
>>217081666Cyborgs deserve lots of kisses.
>>217080582both 1 and 2 are realistic with drugs corporation and political corruption, those problems infest the country currently
>>217081695oh fuck i'm retarded, for some reason i thought it was the prime directives miniseries, yeah idk if there's a decent torrent of the 94 series. crazy to think robocop had three shows, and all of them had just 1 season each.
>>217081746I also forgot it has an epic ending credits songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKhx6qf-Mbw
>>217081746>There's also a female character that gets killed and turned into AIAnd she's a total babe. The character was definitely created so Robo could get cyber pussy.
>>217080725>t2 is whole lightyears better than 1.Wrong. T1 is a techno action thriller. T2 is fucking Bart Simpson gets a pet robot slop on MTV.
>>217081849I always crack up at the second version of the credits where they shot a music video for it, and it has Robo looking at the musicians, and while I know the actor is just doing the standard Robocop movements, it just comes across as him looking completely baffled by their presence.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz3RU7-kk30
>>217079331i took it as jones revealing his true reptilian self as he fell to his demise
>>217081046This film makes fun of communism and hyper corporate shit at the same timeImagine being this stupid
>>217081924I was thinking towards the end of the series they actually played a full music video during the credits, this is it. Thanks anon.
>>217079193No it's mediocre at best.
>>217081952>This film makes fun of communism and hyper corporate shit at the same timeOh I need to hear this one. Go ahead.
>>217082051Zoom zoom
>>217081924>>217081965Incidentally, the actor, Richard Eden, that plays Robo is really fantastic and managing to replicate Weller's walk, but there's a subtle difference. Weller came up with the idea that Murphy's brain is actually in Robocop's chest cavity, so when he's walking a makes a turn, the chest moves first and then the head follows, which is something other actors like Eden and Robert Burke tend not to replicate.
>>217082127that's a neat idea, but if murphy's brain was in the chest then why would they go to the trouble of the helmet casing? plus that chest gets lit the fuck up, no way is the brain stored there.
The 86 screenplay draft is an interesting read. The cops drive weird turbine jet-cars and the Media Break segments constantly talk about stuff like moon colonies and cloning companies. I think it's supposed to be in the 2040s, since they talk about Stallone dying in his 90s due to a botched brain transplant operation. Making it into a more grounded and gritty very near future setting was the right call.
>>217082127>>217082196Yeah, in the documentary Weller talks about how Robocop's body turns first because his brain is in his chest, the the body would react before the head.In Robocop 2, Hob, the kid villain, says 'I heard he has a brain in there' as he's trying to break open Robocop chest plate.
>>217082282Here' the part https://youtu.be/ZPA3shPTZ9s?t=126
>>217081046>if you don’t mindlessly suck corporation penis you MUST be a communist Bipartisan American brain detected
>>217082282>>217082378Then why didn’t he die when Clarence stabbed him with the metal rod?
>>217082196You could argue that they needed space for all the sensory equipment in the head and the chest cavity has more space to hold the brain.>plus that chest gets lit the fuck upTrue, but it's also arguably the most armoured area on Robo. With the chest plate, and then whatever protection is afforded by the architecture of Robo's torso. Which admittedly does end up with a hole going all the way through it in the pilot (a really well done visual effect for a TV series too), but it could have missed the brain itself, and does fuck him up harder than anything else in any incarnation of the character, minus the total dismemberment in Robocop 2.Also if you're a toy collector, the Robocop The Series figure had a removeable chest plate and helmet you could switch with battle damaged versions. I had (and still have) it as a kid along with Madigan, Pudface, the police cruiser, and the crygenic playset where you could put Robo in a plastic container with water, freeze it, then use tools in the playset to drill him out. Those toys fricken ruled.
>>217081237No, making a satire out of Reagan era economics, corporate statism, corporate privatization of public services, militarization and dehumanization of the police, disposability of the workforce, surveillance state, normalization of violence through media, gentrification and criminalization of poverty, among others is very pro-capitalism.
>>217082196>>217082282Was that a commonly known piece of trivia? There's a cyborg in the Gunnm manga that has his brain in his chest and a decoy head that's just there to draw fire. Maybe that's where the guy who wrote/drew it got the idea.
>>217082398Maybe he missed the brain. I don't know. But based on the documentary and that scene in 2, it sounds like brain in chest was the consistent idea. Weller's acting even takes it into consideration, as I said.
>>217079193For me the only flaw is that Bodicker can somehow pierce Robo with a metal rod near the end of the movie despite him tanking 5000 bullets 20 minutes prior
>>217082454Kek, where is that image from? Is it a list of movies that make people seethe?
>>217082494I always just thought his armour had been weakened heavily at that point from the shootout and the metal dropped on him
>>217082378Something I never fully grasped watching Robocop 2 as a kid is how horrific the body horror aspect is in Robocop 2 such as that scene and this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk2-ujxrCsQWhere Cain's brain (essentially Cain) is floating in the tube, unable to blink while the doctors walk around with his empty severed head and his dead body lies in the background. All of that and the sounds of the tools and viscera are perfectly disgusting.There's also the vivisection scene with Duffy that I still can't believe they replicated in a He-Man cartoon. Picrel.
Does robocop need to shit? He eats baby food right? Or does his body absorb 100% of it and therefore doesn’t need to remove the waste?
>>217079193No it sucks
>>217082640Yea that drilling sound is viscerally disgusting
>>217082513Conservacuckpedia. One of the goldmines of the internet.
>>217082280The way he takes out Boddicker's gang at the end is pretty cool. Emil still gets melted. Leon catches a Cobra slug in the gut and explodes like a meat pinata. Joe gets blown up and impaled on some rebar or something. Then he decapitates Boddicker with a Falcon Punch.
>>217080690>didn't like Black Bookfaggot
Can someone give me a QRD on Show Girls? I’ve heard it was considered fucking abysmal, but over time garnered a cult following. Why?
>>217082743I always thought Clarence got off a little too easy with his death. I’m sure suffocating isn’t pleasant, but he deserved a more prolonged death like Emil did
I only noticed recently that after ED shoots the guy in the boardroom you can hear a scientist yell “he didn’t hear the gun!”So that means ED was programmed to visually recognise when a gun was pointed at him, but the only way it would know to stand down is with a very specific sound of a gun hitting pavement . It’d mean he’d also open fire if they placed the gun on the pavement rather than throw it. Not to mention it doesn’t give a shit if someone is pointing a gun at anyone elseI love how terribly designed he is
>>217082438I didn't know there were ones based on the live action show, but had the action figures from the original movie and cartoon. I remember I had the car. I don't know what happened to them and that sucks.
>>217079732Robo Cain scared me when I was a kid, the idea of putting a junkie murderous brain in that machine..Also elements like the mob kid shooting, no way a mainstream movie is gonna do things like that in these faggy years
>>217083149Somewhere in a commentary track or documentary they say that the whole top of it is supposed to be a giant microphone to pick up sounds. I'm not even sure it necessarily "saw" him point the gun, I think it heard him cock it and homed in on the sound. It's also hard to hear, but it doesn't react until he does that.
>>217082454nobody ever said the movie was pro-capitalism, retard. but by nature of being a film released commercially, it is.
>>217083241Even all these years later I still don't get why he kills her. Is it because she reminds him that he's now in the machine body and he loses it, or was he just playing nice to trick her from the start?
>>217083447I assumed he had directives and programming he was bound to just like Robocop. He probably had something like "kill all witnesses" for that job and literally could not disobey it once it kicked in, like when Robo tries to arrest Dick Jones.
>>217079193It's a fun movie but the racial demographics are obviously skewed for political reasons.
>>217079291This>>2170793142 lacks heart, soul, and wit
>>217079767>Really fun.yeah, sureright up until the point you're forced to play as some NIGGER WOMAN
>>217079734>As of 2025, the public market is open on Saturdays year-round and on Tuesdays and Sundays during the summer months. The wholesale market operates at night every weekday from April to November. At peak times during the summer, Eastern Market can see up to 40,000 visitors in a single day.Go on one of the days the market is open and you both will be fine.
>>217079734>she saidits almost like I can hear her distinct shrill voice now
it would be better without the human elements, like he didn't need to be a human before he became robocop, he could've just been born a robot
>>217080231Funny that the police have a difficult time finding him when he's at Tigers Stadium a couple of times a week.
>>217083557Are you implying it’s unrealistic that black people are in Detroit?>>217083635That’s what gave it it’s entirety identity, and theming around Murphy restoring his humanity. To me that’s the most engaging aspect of the film
>>217080690Hollow Man is his only dud and it still has its moments
>>217083619robocops got some DSLs not gonna lie
>>217083674Go back and watch the movie again. Black people are in the minority, be it people on the streets, in shops, in the government, or the police (closest to 50/50), not to mention Clarence's gang. One could argue for OCP, that made sense, but pretty much everywhere else, it's quite glaring, especially for the time period.
>>217082743>Joe gets blown up and impaled on some rebar or somethingYou forgot the best part. He's run through on a chunk of metal, then he dies screaming as two guard dogs eat him alive. It's meant to be karmic payback or whatever you want to call it because he blows up a pet shop full of animals in the scene where Boddicker hands out the Cobra guns.
>>217079734https://vimeo.com/86014703
>>217084049>It's meant to be karmic paybackIt happenshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tdg0DqH6YM
>>217084135Kek basedHe brought the boys around to rough up his rideStraight mafia shit
>>217079193Absolutely.But i like 2 too.
The reason Murphy and Lewis decide to basically kill themselves in the opening of the movie is retarded.But otherwise, yes.pic unrelated
>>217082954The asian guy also gets off too easy. He just gets unceremoniously shot once and falls into some boxes. At least the black dude gets riddled with multiple bursts.
