You may call it a blatant rippoff but at the end of the day it's still literally a better movie. Seriously
>>217100653The villains carry the movie
>>217100653I feel bad for Ken... he just got cucked hard.
>>217100653I like it better too but then again I'm a sucker for nautical shit in general
>>217100653Seagal is a charisma blackhole
>>217100653In willing to wager 98% of /tv/ which is like 50% zoomers at this point has never seen that movie
>>217100653I rewatched this recently and I was fucking shocked how good that was. Villains were all excellent, it made me love Tommy Lee Jones, and the plan wasn't just some braindead single line in script.It might also be the only Seagal movie where he let the support cast shine through.
>>217100653It's certainly leaner than DH, with less annoying side characters.
>>217100653It has objectively better music than Die Hard. Excellent soundtrack.I wonder if Kojima got the idea for first MGS soundtrack from Under Siege.
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>>217100653I wouldn't say better but it's damn good. Probably the only great Steven Seagal movie
>>217100653Go away, Sensei Seagal.
>>217100653>In a 2018 interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Pamela Anderson claimed that she was a contender for the role of Jordan Tate, but was dropped after refusing to sleep with Seagalso, what this means is that erika fucked seagallol what a fucking whore
>>217101494>did kojima rip X from Y movie he saw that day? If you ever have to ask yes, yes he did.
>>217100653The ship setting is inherently more engaging than a building. Die Hard trumps it in terms of character development.
>>217100653Alan Rickman mogs Jones and Busey not even fucking close
>>217101639They all have heaps of charisma but the Russian accent is pretty cringe
But le everyman and walking the glass with no shoes is le deep
>>217100653not even the best Die Hard knockoff
I never thought die hard was that good to begin with. The laughing climax is eyeroll inducing
>>217101692lol...he was German.
>>217101728oops, forgot to add pic
>>217101692Rickman didn’t even change his accent but it was fine cause he was just built different. Jeremy Irons did a better German accent and was completely forgettable in the third one
>>217100653Never heard it compared to die hard ever. And i'm 45.I love it though, it's a great movie and has some of the best sound/foley design in any movie.
>>217101757It's been a while
>>217101797>Never heard it compared to die hard ever.Anon please. It's pretty much the same movie
>>217101574The sex would have smelled like stale hot dogs and cheeto dust.
>>217101797>Never heard it compared to die hard everDimwits will claim that terrorists=Die Hard movie.
>>217100749Tommy Lee JonesGary BuseyColm MeaneyThat's a hell of a triumvirate for the villains.
>>217100653It's undoubtedly the best Die Hard clone but it's not even close to dethroning McTiernan's movie>>217100749The script is decent and it's impressively directed, but yeah Jones and Busey are 100% why the movie can proudly lift its head above the level of Seagal rentalslop>>217101543This, the irony being that Seagal isn't even particularly good in it. You could swap him with literally any '90s leading man and the movie would improve exponentially
>>217100653Lol fuck off and never post here again, you dirty nigger
>>217101903Bro it's the same exact structure holy shit where's your media literacy
>>217100653I agree. Better setting, better pacing, and a stronger sense of urgency. The urgency isn't just from the carrier/missile itself either; it's mainly because numerous unarmed people are executed throughout so there are consequences for every second wasted. In Die Hard some random jap dies then the protag just goes on a rampage.Rickman is great but I like Tommy Lee Jones even more because he's fucking unhinged and highly entertaining. The contrarian in me also likes that it culminates in a knight fight because they're pretty rare in action movies; a miniature sword fight is a lot harder to make look cinematic than fists/guns/swords etc.
>>217102084*knife fight, fuck.
>>217100653It's not better but it is funner
>>217101728>>217101759For me, it's Air Force One.
Best tits I've ever seen in a film.
i'm the cook
They are both great action movies. God I miss cinema
>>217102002>bro there is like bad people and stuff that is so like my favorite christmas movie Die Hard
>>217102509You're either baiting or legit a fucking moron
Because die hard on a military ship > die hard on a city building
>>217102509Terrorists take over isolated location, make everyone hostage except the action hero is hiding, starts messing up the villain plans with little traps and such taking down goons. Protag gets in contact with outside authorities and disobeyes them, authorities send the hardcore professional help that gets completely wrecked, hero is now the only hope. Villains set up a vehicle to escape. Protag goes 1 on 1 with the villain leader, saves the hostages and gets the girl. Don't be disingenuous the setup is identical
I always found the ending for Die Hard where the couple just drive away from the scene like it's nothing to be laughable
>>217101958>You could swap him with literally any '90s leading man and the movie would improve exponentiallyDisagree. The role worked because of how goofy it was that seagal would be a cook on a navy ship and thus the reveal he was actually a navy seal made way more sense as a result.The movie needed seagal as well as Busey and Jones. Honestly though it is really a high budget version of the substitute (which is kino too)
>>217100653Fuck off zigger scum
>>217100653Ivan wants approval
Seagal isn't nearly as likeable as Bruce but I legit think the Busey/Tommy duo are more engaging than Rickman
It's an easier watch. There's a lot of fluff in Die Hard that I just don't care about.
Die Hard clones and star >Under Siege - Die Hard on a boat- Seagal>Sudden Death - Die Hard at a hockey game - Van Damme>Air Force One - Die Hard on a plane - Harrison Ford>Con Air - Die Hard in prison in a plane - Nicholas Cage>Speed - Die Hard on a bus - Keyanu Reeves>Violent Night - Die Hard but Santa - Idk who played Santa Im sure there is moreIn retrospect, Arnold seems to have bypassed those entirely somehow. I think ive seen under Siege more than Die Hard. It really is pretty good.
High kino breasts
Watch this if you love under siege and die hard
>>217103612Speed - Die Hard on a busHow the acctual fuck is Speed even remotely like Die Hard
>>217103612clam down tvtropes https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DieHardOnAnX
>>217103662>hostages are on a bus>main dude has to rescue the hostages via insane stunts from a villain whose end goal is moneyThats pretty much it.
>>217100653segall sucks dick the only good part is the girls tits and it's funny when the villains are like WHO DA FUCK IS THIS GUY
>>217103694That's pretty fucking thin
>>217103662>>217103694You need your media literacy certificate revoked
>>217100653casey ryback? CASEY RYBACK!?!?1CASEY FUCKING RYBACK!?WHO THE FUCK IS CASEY FUCKIGN RYBACK?
Mctiernan was literally asked to direct Speed but he refused because he felt it was too similar to Die Hard
I liked fire down below. Seagal haters can go watch John wick 50 and pretend its Uber epic cause muh assassin lore.
>>217102153Get out of my plane
Why did America resurrect a ww2 battleship?Japan was mocked for building the Yamato and Musashi because they looked cool despite them being an inefficient waste of resources, but eventually the US fell for the same petty hubris.
>>217103741Anorexic.
I have an idea for Indiana Jones Die Hard Ripoff set in an Egyptian tomb. Will Disney buy it
>>217103957How does the story shit on white men?
>>2171006532 > 1
>>217104138lol. lmao even
>>217104176Ok. Fixed just for you2 >> 1
Should aging be illegal?
>>217100653That's like, the movie where, they shoot giant cans of BEANS at a ship to attack it.Right?
>>217104233now imagine him without the hair transplant and hair dye
>>217100653the ost is phenomenal
>>217104259Are you having a stroke?
>>217101293LMAO I'm so sleep fucked I thought that was Brosnan in the pic. I know I watched this back in the day but damned if I remember anything about it. It's always nice when a re-watch will be just like first viewing.
It's been like 20 years since I watched it but I still remember wincing at that scene with the industrial jigsaws and shit when he puts a guys shoulder through one or something. I'm usually immune to cartoon action movie violence but somehow that got me
>>217103612>Idk who played Santastranger things guyi don't remember his name either.
>>217102084>stronger sense of urgency. The urgency isn't just from the carrier/missile itself either; it's mainly because numerous unarmed people are executed throughout so there are consequences for every second wasted. In Die Hard some random jap dies then the protag just goes on a rampage.The stakes are directly proportional to the protagonist in each movie. McLane is just a beat cop so terrorists with bombs in a skyscraper is a massive threat even if they're just thieves, especially since his wife is one of the hostages. Segal is supposed to be le elite warrior so you have to throw in missiles on a battleship with way more unhinged villains to raise the stakes
No annoying black side characters is a huge win.
>>217100653Its a fun rematch. US2 is a poor film but a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine
>>217104610Nta but somehow seagal pulling the shit he does is more believable(lol) than what John Mclean does precisely because he is a super soldier
Under Siege's flash-in-the-pan success is owed to (ordinally):1. Tommy-Lee Jones2. Gary Busey3. Miss July, 19894. Cueball5. Ken Masters...10. Sensei Seagull
>>217104793some of the more ridiculous stunts (like swinging off the building tied to a fire hose) are exaggerated, but McLane's decision making is pretty realistic for a cop with common sense and situational awareness
>>217100862>>217104880Who the fuck is ken masters. Google is giving me street fighter
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>>217104920>2026 Anno Domini>using Joogle for anything but maps and the weatherNGMI
How many chicks with fucking amazing tits busted out of cakes and showed the goods in Die Hard?How did anyone ever think Doe Hard was better? Because it's a 'Christmas movie?'
>>217105037Erika's bolt ons werent that amazing
>>217104975Oh. He was kind of irrelevantBut seriously people only dunk on Seagal's performance because he is a certified piece of shit person, he did a perfectly fine job on this one film
>>217104942Stunning and brave
>>217103662bruh. please be baiting
>>217100653It needed a bit more emotional torque. But it is enjoyable
I really like the second one. Only because it was so stupid, the Jewish villain hammed it up so good.
>>217105413Die Hard and its clones all typically feature a guy trapped in a location surrounded by multiple hostile attackers which he battles through using combat skills and cunningSpeed is about a guy telling Sandra Bullock how to drive
>>217104496I thought it was tom cruise
Die Hard is not nearly as good as most people make it out to be.
>>217101797it was literally called "Die Hard On A Boat" by people of the time. in the mid 90s it kind of kicked off a series of "Die Hard On A _____" movies, most of which were straight to video.
>>217100653No.Dat soundtrack tho
>>217106164>a guy telling Sandra Bullock how to driveSurprised there was a sequel, sheesh
That dumb private that is watching over seagal when he's locked in the freezer was really likable and they had good banter/chemistry. They should have used him more having him become one of the good guy helpers instead of killing him off immediately. Big wasted character building opportunity
>3.0 on letterboxdnot good at all
>>217101494You mean Crimson Tide
>>217106479Drink bleach
Pro cop film vs pro military filmPick your poison
>>217100653For me it's under siege 2train>boat
>>217100653Is this the one when he sits down to fit a guy
>>217106600>train>boatCorrect but 1 is still the better movie
Remind me why are we supposed to hate Seagal?
>>217106893Because he's a terrible actor
I really liked this part where the good guy tells the bad guy that there is a God. He tells him that our God might be a worse God than he’s expecting.https://youtu.be/WSwlt4TR6hg&t=92
>>217100653I love early Seagal
This is basically Seagal's only good movie, before he became self-aware
It's like a live action version of Metal Gear>autistic protagonist>codec calls>capeshit villains that love monologues>main villain is a patriot who was betrayed by his country and wants revenge>revenge plot involves launching nuclear missiles>Seagal's slapfighting choppy hands is actually a good stand in for Snake's CQC>final battle is two guys having long monologues then engaging in a CQC knife fight
>>217106479The fuck? Critics loved this movie on release, why do the younglings hate it?
>>217101494>I wonder if Kojima got the idea for first MGS soundtrack from Under Siege.I'm sure he rip the MGS soundtrack from Speed and some of the MGS4 ost from Predator
>>217102242>You know back before the war broke out I was a saucier in San Antone.https://youtu.be/SDwj1Gn1fZc
>>217106893he's a terrible actor, a fraud, made numerous sexual advances on people who didn't want it including a 14 year old on the set of Undersiege2. Massive faggot to everyone while filming Executive Decision, egomaniac like Vin Diesel/The Rock/Jason Stathom who 'can't lose a fight'. He has to my knowledge only died twice in films (Executive decision which he fought tooth and nail not to have happen) and Machete, both times self inflicted >"nobody can kill me, except me!"Basically he's just a dickhead and survives on a cult following in the Balkans.
>>217107301imagine caring about any of this shit lmao
>>217100653yeah, I like it better than Try Hard too
>>217103509>>217103532kek, it's that kid
>>217103923because by the 80s it was unsinkable, already built and paid for, and had the deck space for a shit load of modern missile launchers to be installed
>>217107539I love the underseige movies but even I know Seagal is a terrible faggot in real life. Makes sense his cult fanbase would turn a blind eye to him trying to fuck a 14 year old just as long as they can watch shit like Sniper Special Ops. Kind of like the inbred mutts that worship the twitch turk despite him being a moronic dog torturer.
>>217107820>wahhhh he's a chud who likes teenage girlswhere do you think you are, pearl clutching normalnigger
>>217107840he's not going to fuck you bro. Go back to bluesky
