>>217124689>why is ____ getting worse?insert 99% of all things and it's because of cheap labor
>>217124689They don't give good artists enough time, the studio heads are making CONSTANT revisions and requests right up until they have the production in the can, they outsource CG to India since they have no unions and can be underpaid, and other factors.
ONE THING
>>217124689>They are using American made computer chips that are fucking useless
>>217124793I don't know whyIt doesn't even matter how hard you tryKeep that in mind
>>217124689CGI is premade nowadays, e.g. the equivalent of grabbing a template and modifying it. Most of it is not made from scratch anymore.
Is this real or AI? I refuse to believe it's real
>>217124954WOW! Look at that lack of kickback.
>>217124689>CGI hasnt changed in 24 years
>Nearly 10 years and this is the legacy you leave
>>217124689I haven't watched this since season 1. Why's everyone an action hero?
>>217124769>They don't give good artists enough time>10 years between season
>>217124954Why is a teenage girl taking out trained military personnel?
>>217125108male fantasy show
>>217124731>>217124769>Capitalism bad
>>217125108Why not?
>>217124954>>217124689People will make fun of anime then unironically watch shit like this.
>>217125162I'M ACTING
>>217124689I am not knowings. Probably you it is with an opinion as bad CGI. We are all happy with the movies. It is not a problem. It is not a issue.
>>217125162Couldn't she just crush his brain? Why torture him like that
>>217124689>Why is CGI getting worse?just go watch Avatar Fire and Ash again. Don't waste your time with Netflix slop.
>>217124689They don’t hire Whites for movies anymore. That’s why everything is a steaming pile of shit
>>217125155In terms of art, yes capitalism is unironically bad. Shows/movies/games are businesses now designed to produce maximum profit at the cost of everything else.
>>217125186kek'd
>>217125228Avatar isn't indicative of the average CGI.
>we need to work together and defeat vecna, stop calling me that >okay, you little nagger
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>>217125342>when vecna’s defeated, make no mistake, i’ll fuckin kill him
>>217125262not the way i'd word it since these are all innately capitalistic products to begin with that are unnecessary to the health of a nation, but i get the sentiment. cost cutting and quantity over quality indeed
>>217124689The greatest minds in bollywood created those scenes
>>217125239The biggest piles of shit are made by whites though.
>>217125155Crony capitalism is incredibly bad.
>>217125322>Avatar isn't indicative of the average CGI.Don't watch average CGI. Why waste your time.You're better off watching Avatar in Imax 3D for the tenth time, than watching average slop once.
>>217124954those guys had wives and children
>>217125228the same company that did the cgi for avatar did the cgi for this stranger things episode
>>217125425>Crony capitalismBetter known as capitalism.
>>217124954Sure was nice of those guys to stand there and wait for her to line up her shots and shoot them.
>>217124954>@grok make it look like a miniature set
>>217124954The funny part is they all get captured by the military at the very end, and then it just cuts to “18 months later” and there was zero repercussions or explanation on how they weren’t all immediately killed
>>217124954she can only aim at one guy at one time but those two got shot at the same time. what a phony.
>>217125108That's a teenager?!?!?!Damn, women are hitting the wall earlier and earlier.
>>217124954What was Nancy's final kill count throughout the series?
>>217124689
>>217125474People do CGI, not companies.
>>217125349>The Mind Flayer is a hostile, alien intelligence that manifests as a giant swirling shadow and who utilizes monsters and possessed agents to invade our world after glowies caught its attention by delving too deeply>No wait, the Mind Flayer was actually just a ball of mindless space dust until a spider obsessed retard waved his hands at it to give it life>No wait, the Mind Flayer is an actual giant meat monster.What were they thinking?
>>217125635That's the neat part: They weren't.
>>217125349>ps2 vs. ps3
>>217125424Whatever you say Rajesh
>>217125106Imagine if you got a year to make Project X, and then 330 days in, your boss turns around and says “Actually, we want you to do Project Y. Also, your deadline hasn’t changed.”
>>217125596Bravo Vince
>>217125106VFX shots have become a substantially bigger portion of modern productions and substantially more complex. Studios ask VFX companies to do more, with less, and with constant changes being made all the way up to release, and if the VFX company doesn't deliver, they don't work in the industry anymore.>Jurassic Park>~60 shots>~127 minute runtime>Total production time ~48 monthsThat's ~7 VFX shot for every 15 minutes of runtime, with one shot needing to be completed, on average, every 3-4 weeks.>S4 of Stranger Things>~4000 VFX shots>~771 minute runtime>Total production time ~29 monthsThat's ~80 VFX shots for every 15 minutes of runtime, with one shot needing to be completed, on average, every 5-6 hours.
>>217125479Crony capitalism is what happens when capitalism becomes perverted. If you had a political class who weren't abject pieces of shit then it wouldn't happen.The fact that there are people who call themselves leftists who are also advocates of the Democrats is perhaps the biggest political irony in human history.Do Americans own any of the means of production in 2026? You get the choice between one crony capitalist party or another.
>muh capitalismcompare this to TV CGI at any point in history and it's better
>>217125778>with one shot needing to be completed, on average, every 5-6 hours.That really puts it into perspective
>>21712517210 years ago yes
>>217125792>Stop talking bad about capitalism, goy!
>>217125782This post is so deep and insightful
>>217125262This is so stupid. So Capitalist societies have never had good art? Grow up
>>217125364>>217125342>>217125819Why does every shot have a marmelade filter over it?
>>217124954No recoil?
>>217124689thank fuck I never got into this showseems like a waste of time
>>217125878>this is what capitalism stole from me!
>>217126008>When the plane starts doing cartwheelsKino
>>217125963Paddingtoned. In deepest, darkest Peru, it consumed him
>>217126158Who was in the wrong here?
>>217126158I only watched season 1 of this show and liked it. Glad I stopped there. This looks like a shitty video game
>>217124689>vecna, my arch nemesis
Shit looks like it has a $10 million budget
>>217125963because digital coloring makes it easier to insert more CGI
>>217125142It's only good when kawaii anime girls do it, not empowered girl bosses
>>217124731This is mostly true. My brother was a poor white boy right out of college when he worked on the first Iron Man movie. Now that he’s established he outsources his work to jeets and DEI college students or AI so he can eat his marijuana edibles and mushrooms while sitting on the beach ignoring his wife and kids. He’s getting less and less work and I tell him the only thing that will save his career is that he’s not AI and he should capitalize on that but he’s lazy as fuck just like all of Hollywood.
>>217124793I thought it looked familiar
These kids have aged so much it’s distracting. Look at Mike for fucks sake
>>217126601What race is that?
>>217125921you cant pay someone to make good art. no one has ever produced good art when all they care about is profit. only hobbyists produce good art, sometimes hobbyist can make money from their good art
It's not CGI, and it's not film vs digital. It's lighting and editing. He looks like a CGI muppet, like Neo swinging a stick in Matrix Reloaded but that is in fact a real actor with minimal green screen behind him.
>>217126601lmao
>>217124731This>>217125155And this but unironically
>>217124689watch the credits and look at the names
>>217126741This made millennials cry and stand up and yell KINO
>>217126689tell that to the entire renaissance
>>217125070Why does the negro have a Guile haircut?
>>217124689check Netflix stock price - its because you fucking RETARDS keep paying for it.
>>217125635Truly criminal how they misused the MF
>>217124689Wrong, Avatar 3 looks great.
>>217126689You absolutely can. But these stuidos aren't trying to make good art, they're trying to maximise profit, sacrificing the art along the way
>>217124689>Why is CGI getting worse?
>>217126840Because Guile haircuts are kino.
>>217124689Fortnite character trailers belong on /v/. not /tv/.
>>217126285they didnt even grade it properly its too dark in hdr and too light in SDR its DOGSHIT
>>217126840Because it's a nostalgiabaiting show for total losers.
>>217126741Is this after a 20 year timeskip and they're all in their 30s now?
Nancy's character arc was... Everything
>>217127067The first season is 10 years old now.
>>217127085I also like hamfisted, hackneyed, outlandish character development that makes no fucking sense.
>>217126865Exactly. If you're eating from the trough, don't complain about the taste of the slop.
>>217127101Yeah. Makes sense why they did this timeskip.
>>217125882Based. Anyone who cares about anything is a fool.
>>217125227>Why torture him like thatof course some retard instantly complains about the only good partshe literally had to wade though this asshole's mind last ep and knows very well how he despises her
>>217125186It starts withONE KIDI don't know why, I needed 12 more for the flayer of minds
>>217127085This is everything.
>>217126296>It's only good when kawaii anime girls do it, not empowered jew mutt girls do itFixed for (You), king.
>>217127135Ok, tranny. I won't watch your show btw.
The first season is still worth watching, right?
is zoomer things finally finished
>>217126172NancyLittle guy was just going for a walkShe was very rude to interrupt him
>>217127385YeahIt's an excellent self contained story and you can easily pretend the rest doesnt existYou can also do the same with s2 and s3. All three of them are good stopping points where you can just ignore the rest if you dont care for them. Only s4 and s5 are tied together narratively
>>217125162Why is the show under the impression that those soldiers deserved to be killed?
I remember seeing Pirates of the Caribbean 2 in theaters and being so excited to see what movies would look like in 20 years. Well, 20 years later and most movies and TV shows look like fucking Spy Kids. They’ve gotten worse AND more expensive.
>>217125186beautiful
>>217126417yes saar we are not lazy like white boy we save hollywood with our super eyore work ethnics
>>217126253did they use the set from The Flintstones Movie?
>>217125015>>217125964A lot of productions don't even use blanks anymore after Baldwin's Big Mistake. Just CGI muzzle flashes and spent cases.
>>217127655They were doing that before the Rust incident but now no movie will ever show a live round being fired. Might as well get rid of stuntmen next and blur some AI generated footage of the actor.
>>217127534zoomers consider someone an enemy if they like a videogame they don't
>>217127534They didn't get the vaxx.
>>217127799Kino
>>217124689VFX are only as good as the human artist who oversees the final result.
>>217125778>>217125846Yeah but companies that do cgi have like hundreds of employees now. It's why movie credits have a fucking million names now. It should be an easy workload.
>>217124954>>217126158Was she a commando in season 4 too? I can't remember
holy shit I only watched the first couple of seasons and boy am I glad I didn't watch more after seeing these webms. talk about jumping the shark
>>217127085...and this is her now
>>217128781I gave up when the end of Season 3 revealed Hopper's sacrifice was a lie and the ending stinger was literally just "Russians have Demodogs in cages!" It was very clear by that point that the writers had no new ideas and were just going to keep recycling everything we've already seen over and over in addition to refusing to let any main character die, which destroys the stakes.
>>217126741Remember when glowies picked cute girls to experiment on and give psychic powers to?
Because people put up with it.
>>217124954When was the last time you saw a Radio Shack brick and mortar?
>>217129187yeah
>>217124689Because 15 years ago CGI was used to enhance practical effects and was made by people who wanted it to look as fluid and unintrusive as possible, now they just put all the actors in front of a green screen and outsource everything to pajeets.
>>217125155Yeah it's bad when it just becomes slavery 2.0 and everything looks like shit because they want it made as cheaply as possible
I was thinking the other day about how even shots in modern shows/movies that aren't green screened look like ugly green screened shit due to extreme shallow focus and I was wondering if this is a self perpetuating problem where green screened shit gets made to look like shit to match the non-green screened shit that looks like shit which gets made to look like shit to match the green screened shit that looks like shit and so on.
>>217125778So don't do that then if it's going to look like shit.
>>217125262Early Capitalism during the Renaissance actually did a lot to help the Arts thrive and many of the great artworks of the Renaissance era had religious elements to them. Also, when the Greek/Byzantine refugees fleeing to the West had brought their knowledge with them, classical Greece and Rome became subjects in art along with Christianity, sometime artworks use elements from both. Modern day versions of those types of artworks are the Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia, both are Christian works but also influenced by the classical mythologies of Ancient Rome and Greece(and Scandinavia).These days, the Leftists, globohomos, LGBT, the Communists and the Socialists now control the mainstream media and the production of art and their "woke" art usually sucks.>>217124769>>217124731Oh, you guys have a point about the cheap labor from Hindu India and the constant revisions by the studio heads who interact nearly every minute with their subscribers. Maybe just hire people who can tell a good story instead of making Leftist propaganda and stop using cheap labor from India. The United States probably has enough storytellers and CGI tech workers instead of relying on India.
>>217124689the short answer is AIAI let's CGI Artists cut corners to avoid manual 3D modeling and ends up saving studios a significant amount of money. You will see more AI Slop replacing traditional CGI in the future. It's all downhill from here.
>>217129187This part of the show actually did happen - 'theoretically', at least. CIA, Pentagon, et al did pour millions into parapsychology research. And although there is no official acknowledgement, there is strong indications that (a) these projects continued, long after they were officially shuttered; (b) they used children.
>>217129893>Leftists, globohomos, LGBT, the Communists and the Socialists now control the mainstream media and the production of art and their "woke" art usually sucks.>usually
>>217130198None of that shit is AI
>>217130436>AI was used in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, particularly by ILM for advanced face-swapping to enhance realism in action scenes, while the AI primarily handled face-swapping for realism, core magical transformations and the final acquisition of the Third Eye relied heavily on advanced digital compositing, enhanced by AI for seamless integration of the actor's likeness into supernatural eventshttps://www.vfxwire.com/ilm-delivers-vfx-for-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness/
>>217124689As long as people continue to tolerate it, they'll keep lowering the quality.
>>217127085Sarah Connor was literally in the show, guys
>>217130198Cheap unqualified workforce
>>217130198> saves moneyThese disgusting messes cost hundreds of millions of dollars still, where are they saving money?
>>217130780less labor, jeet workforce
>>217129442Post the green screen nick fury in a chair.
>>217130791Those jeet movies from india cgi look better than the stuff jeets make in hollywood.I cant blame india anymore than i can.
>>217127534>noooo you can't kill the servants of zog!
>>217128520Should be but isn't because the studio still wants entire scenes to be redone from scratch 3 days before release.
>>217124954kek this is what stranger things turned into? glad I only watched season 1
>>217125172stranger things is still better than 99% of animeand yes, stranger things is still terrible
>>217124954The best part about this is there is a trained Vietnam vet hiding below in the truck but they chose to have the girl who went plinking a few times be the shooter in a heavily exposed position with plywood as her armor
>>217125921>Capitalist societies have never had good artCapitalist societies have good art but the artists who made those good art didn't benefit or participated in the capitalist system. The moment they step out and do a cash grab their succeeding art turns to shit.
>>217130198>AIActually Indians.
>>217124689>>217124793>>217124954 Wtf is this nonsense? I've completely avoided stranger things, I thought this was supposed to be some sort of goonies 80s homage, when did they become special forces alien commandos l?
>>217129893stop taking your retard pills, capitalists run everything
>>217126840Its an 80s black thing. Yt bois wont get it>>217126988>>217127031They dont get it
You white boys dont got our swagger
>>217125921You are literally retarded lol
>>217126689Every artist in history was paid.
>>217124689ILM and Weta outsource their work to indians now.
>>217124689The CGI itself is fine, it's just the compositing and artistic design is hammered dogshit. I don't know why they rubber stamped such a massive layout of manhours on the backend when it doesn't appear any due diligence was done on the front end to ensure the guys in post would have something they could actually work with. I feel bad for all the rendermonkeys scrambling to make the best of a terrible situation.
>>217125015yeah that shit is embarrassing.
>>217124689Literally what's wrong with this specific scene?
10 years of your lives spent hate watching(let's be real you're all r*ddit tourists who paid for this shit) this pile of garbage lmao
>>217124954>casually kills US soldiers who probably have families, and feels nothing about it despite being her first time taking human lives.
movies, music, gaming, anime and media is for poors nowunironically sloppa
>>217131917she used a gun against monsters a few sometimes in previous seasons, but this is the first time she just casually kills people out of nowhere
>>217132576aaahhhh 7th gen piss filter... I'm home again.
>>217125227he's the characterized soldier who gets a name and dialogue, so he gets to have a special death. it's funny when it showed everyone's neck getting snapped you just knew she was going to stop with him because the show is full of cliches.
>>217125186Did they run out of 80s songs already? Or was it always the plan to go a bit anachronistic for the final episode?
>>217127534they make every single one of them cartoonishly "evil." they're always assholes to the kids and shove them and are hostile towards everyone, and they always get targeted and raped by the monsters, even though they're the only ones equipped with assault rifles.
>>217124954New The Warriors remaked looking slick
>>217124689They burned through the budget on purpose. The stranger kids know that vecna dies when they run out of money to animate his wet squelching tentacles and vines. That's why he went down so fast in the end.
>>217127135Okay why does she look 40 though
>>217127085>is that... a nerdy female student that turns into a heckin badass girlboss with a gun? THIS IS GENIUS WRITING, BRAVO DUFFERS
>>217132896Are there any movies that do this?
>>217127262It's pretty sad how the show started off with the DnD group being the main cast, with Mike as the leader, and he just gets sidelined for sisters and his mom, 2 of which being irrelevant side characters until the final season. what the fuck did he do in the final battle besides shoot a flare gun?
>>217127085It's like this but she picks up an automatic rifle and gets that 80s hairspray cut and Rambo clothes
>>217126008unironically yesthis is cinema
>>217131917>I thought this was supposed to be some sort of goonies 80s homageIt was until it wasn't, then kinda became that again in season 4 until it turned back to not being.
>>217124689>why anythingjews, indians, moneynext question
>>217124689I have seen better CGI in a US Marine recruitment TV commercial from the 00s.
>>217124689They really went for the most generic shitty ending imaginable
>>217131974That looks like a hedge bush, my hair is actually able to be combed.
>>217131854No, the best part is when they return from the Upside Down through that exact same portal in a military base they attacked earlier and are shocked to find the military waiting for them
>>217124731>cheap laborIs this the metaphor for brown
>>217124731>>217125155>>217125921>>217132119>Jeets replying and saying NO YOU'RE WRONG while not knowing what civil rights are and being paid 1/8ths of anyone in a civilized countryHow does it feel to be "stranded" in your own country, poop slingers?
>>217125070>>217126840Why is his hair crooked?
>>217125155hoes mad
>>217125172its the other way around anon
>>217125376Storytelling exists without markets you retarded jeet.
>>217125155Globalism is badNot capitalism
>>217125349
>>217126825>Renaissance Italy was laissez faire industrial capitalism. You're one of those basement dwelling ancaps aren't you?
>>217132171>>217124689for me it's miniatures
>>217134114
>>217125070>>217124793in the endit doesn't even matter
>>217124689People sit down and watch this?
Finale was GoT tier levels of bad and killed any good will people had in the series.
>>217134144>>217134114this is actually really neat
>>217131917>supposed to be some sort of goonies 80s homageit was for like the first two seasons, but you gotta understand the runtime of the show has the material for several gooner movies covered, eventually the writers run out of 80s nostalgia to incorporate and instead turn to the increasingly spectacular. kinda like with the fast series where it started off with some 30yo teenage keeds driving fast cars and boosting VCRs, which eventually became them flying their nigger rigged cars through space and fighting martians.as long as a franchise keeps printing money the showrunners have to one-up the stake with every new installment
>>217127655why doesn't kikewood create some internal contraptions inside the guns that simulate kickback when the actors pull the trigger?you'd think their creative talent could easily come up with something like this
>>217127799Kek
>>217124689So they can spend $1 million dollars on the CGI but say they spent $300 million and pocket the rest modern movie is just money laundering now
>>217126189same. i was genuinely surprised when i heard that a "season 3 of stranger things" had come out at the time it did. people love their slop so much.
>>217125186Audible kek>stranger park
>>217125186Strange things, every day, they keep getting stranger, that kid’s gay
>>217134950ngl season 3 is forgettable as fuck and is the lowe point of the whole series, the 4th one on the other hand was really neat, had interesting characters, good stories, it was like watching three different movies from the same fictional universe at once, some of the episodes were 70-80 minutes long
>>217124954
>>217134198>>217134144It wasn't neatIt was the fakest explotion ever and may as well go full cgi if you are going to go miniatures+cgi
>>217125162I've never seen this show before. The girl in the wetsuit with heavy botox is the villain, right?
I don’t watch the show nor do I plan to. Can someone explain how the girl next door character turns into a heckin girlboss comando and how she seems to kill normal US Soldiers without any remorse?
>>217132576kek
>>217127534they're white
>>217125635I still remember the hype around the mind flayer when the 1st reveal trailer dropped for S2
>>217126741T H E U N E N L I G H T E N E D M A S S E S
>>217125349>toporiginal game>bottomhd remaster
>>217135276You'd think, right?
>>217131922Stop taking the intellectual easy way out. It's kikes.>The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem
>>217130198That Gollum shot is from The Hobbit.
>>217135025lol
>>217124689The final fight was very meh. Why were there no demidogs or demigorgons in Dimension X? It felt so weird for them to body the Mindflayer so quickly and the whole ruining it's design
>>217135066>preferring season 4 to 3Are you mental?
>>217127534because they whit men
I agree, the Stranger Things Season Finale was a shitshow
>>217125108duffer fags are selfhating white cuks.
>>217124954the whole casual murder of random military personel made me constantly think of picrel.
>>217124689They are transitioning to AI so they stopped giving a shit, once AI has been improved everything will get better
>>217132728>feels nothingdid you miss the constant crying segments these characters do about any stupid shit every 10 minutes you animal? of ourse it feels stuff!
>>217135485Didn't they have actual AI in the credits?
>>217135445
>>217135528
>>217135485Not only does that seem to be the case for Hwood but it's the same for corporations. Companies running on dogshit revenues, or in the negative, just trying to keep their head above water until "AI saves us". It's fucking nuts dude. We're witnessing a civilizational collapse. This is like if the Titanic was sinking but everyone just kept listening to the band and forgot about the boat.
>>217124689Several reasons come to mind but it´s basically the same as with everything else. Limitations always bring about creativity. When artists can´t say or show certain things they have to get more creative, resourceful and find subtle workarounds, visual metaphors, fragment the information, use lighting tricks to hide it and so on. When directors think like that and CGI is used only when absolutely needed there is more budget and time for those shots and the results are usually better. However we live now in an age on which the ones at the helm don´t think like that. They have to explain and show everything as directly as possible and CGI has become the easy way to do just that. And AI is just making it worse. It is kind of ironic. They are now capable of telling pretty much any story they could imagine but the tools they developed for doing so have turned their minds lazy and can no longer imagine or visualize past surface levels. It´s pretty sad.
>>217130198Now trannies got btfo by AI they start lying.
Do you guys ever enjoy anything? I can't imagine being this miserable all the time.
>you hate my favorite brain slop therefore you must be miserablethe reverse flynn effect in action
>you don't hate with us then you must be against usyou sound like a fag
>projection and nonsenseesl molestation victim
>>217135602>goy cattle bleatingreddit is that way
>>217135602I'm enjoying falloutBefore that it was mmThe first part of Outer range. it dipped off hard at the endFallout will probably dip hard at the end as well (first season already dipped off hard at the end with Lucy not killing her father, and just letting him move on becuase the plot needs to)Before that it was House of dragons season 2, that dipped off hard at the end with the old women not scorching all her enemies, just winking at the camera and saying "I'll see you on season 3 ;)"It's hard to enjoy something when the writers actively don't want you to
Zoomers are cooked lmao. You thrive on stupid angry opinions regarding made up controversy. None of this matters.
>>217135602>WHY DON'T YOU ENJOY BOTTOM OF THE BARREL MASS PRODUCED SLOP?on all hills to die on, you pick this? you could pick any other TV show or movie to make this post about and it might have some truth to it, but this?you are a retard
>>217124731More specifically it's being out-sourced to fucking India.
>>217135778>mass producedI don't think you even understand the words you're using lmao
>>217124689Outsourcing for cheap labor and rushing new movies / tv shows out
>>217125921No not really. In fact feudal societies had better art. Maybe immediately post WW2 cinema was okayish, but nowadays it's all just used for subversion and Jewish indoctrination.
>>217125108she is Jane Roomba
>>217124793First thing that came to mind was the blue screen in the 1984 Dune
>>217135602I only like LotR and The Sopranos.
Punished Mike
They fired all the White male writers so scripts are never finished on time and outsourced CGI to Indians.
>>217135025This
>>217128520If one dude/team work for 10 scenesOr 10 dudes/teams work for 10 scenesWhat's going to be better and what's going to be faster?
