Imagine a scene where Tony tells a bunch of mobsters he's seeing a therapist. Gay.
I bet this nu-male faggot thought this was so fucking witty and heckin ebin pwnage. Loser.
>>217170139so are we getting a modern woke sopranos or not?
>>217170139the difference is that nowadays the writers wouldn’t have the mobsters call vito a faggot and instead celebrate his gayness. cruelty is an undying feature of existence that “woke” society believes can be erased.
>>217170179We already did its called The Many Saints of Newark
>>217170163looks like he pwned you real good seeing how upset you are
Vito was a turbo fag who got mocked for his homosexuality AJ was portrayed as an annoying piece of shit Tony's therapy was revealed to be completely pointless in the end None of those traits were celebrated
>>217170139The big thing about AJ is that he was depressed, not that he had ADHD. Zoomers are so fucking stupid, man.
>>217170139I get the joke is that all happens in the Sopranos but the point is that Sammy "The Bull" Gravano went to therapy and his sessions were used to build a RICO case against the Teflon Don John Gotti. If Tony told the crew he was seeing a therapist, they would murder him as a rat. That's why he never tells anybody.
If they made The Sopranos today it would be Korean because the west can't make good tv anymore.
>>217170292you must've skipped this clip during your sopranos youtube watch throughhttps://youtu.be/4wPJUcF5LcQ?si=PEiGUTZdYNbrJPYW
>>217170190Vito would be the heroic MC of the story and he would work with the FBI to bring down the evil racist homophobic white male Sopranos crew from the inside. Noah would be an undercover FBI agent who saves Meadow from her evil family. Tony would become a Trump stand-in.
>1999
>>217170292Everyone in his crew and even Johnny Sac knows he went to therapy, you flaming tourist
>>217170179You did in 2000
>>217170139The Sopranos was always proto-woke, back when artists we gave millions of dollars to still had enough talent to understand fundamentals of great characters and storytelling.There was lots of anti-racist, anti-sexist programming back in the 80s and 90s, that people still yearn for and wish that modern American films could recapture.
If they made the Sopranos today it would be about Carmella.
>>217170163It’s pretty clever
>>217170139I can't recall a single show with 3 characters like this.
>>217170139don't the mobsters kill the gay one instead of hugging him?
>>217170592It would be about Jamal the hassidic homeboy's perspective. He would learn about the Jersey mob after starting to date Meadow. The feds would recruit him to go undercover to help take Tony down. Vito would be his biggest ally. All the strippers in the Bing would be doctors and engineers stripping to pay for their masters degrees, and would be portrayed as strong and empowered women proud of their sexuality.
>>217170616I don't think it's really that clever to point out that media used to have implicitly woke programming but that people liked it 20 or 30 years ago. It's just an admission of defeat that they can't make something like that that people like now.
>>217170163Gary Coopah
>>217170637The joke is that those characters already exist in the Sopranos
>>217170163>seething this hard about a joke
>>217170226>Tony's therapy was revealed to be completely pointless in the endwut. The entire point of the ending was that his therapy was working TOO well. Melfi basically told him to fuck off because she realised she was making a sociopath monster feel better about himself
>>217170139And Meadow would get blacked.
>>217171190And one of the mobsters would like getting pegged
>ignores they exiled and got the gay guy killed
The fact that shit like this is enough to get you people so riles up is hilarious.
>>217171311And one of the mobsters would beg another to take their clothes off in a locker room
>>217171334>muh homophobic oppression
They'd totally add a gay mobster who licks vagina.
>woke The Wire>one of its most feared and respected characters is black and actually gayjust imagine lol
>>217170574Were Cavemen woke too? Was neanderthal woke? Were protozoans woke? Were RNAs woke too? Shut the fuck up you dumb faggot.
>>217170139Tony would be in a cult called Alcoholics Anonymous.
>>217170343>gookslop AND aislopdaring today aren't we
Didn't really like the sopranos that much t b h.
>>217171516"Woke" just means that everyone involved was an explicit anti-racist and anti-sexist and their art was designed with those values in mind. The show repeatedly suggests that black crime is really downstream of the Italian mafia, for example.HP Lovecraft isn't woke because he was very clearly using racism as a lodestone for his art, something that most American artists stopped being about to do after the civil rights era. The more progressive politics has advanced, the more parts of these people's minds have been locked off. But they were able to make good art until sometime into the early 2000s, and now it's just blatant trash that is more soulless than the average Soviet propaganda film. They can't create anything because an actual act of creation might uncover some secret Hitler particles in their soul.
>>217171711God you are brain rotted so hard. Woke doesn't mean anything, zoomer. You have to be 18 to post here.
>>217171756Keep seething.
>>217170139It was at the start of woke that's why all that shit exists in the show and he forgot to mention Meadow being a coalburner
>>217170799Therapy isn't supposed to make you feel good, it's supposed to help you fix your mental issues.
>>217171797>people calling me retarded are actually just secretly mad at me
>>217171836And it didTony stopped having panic attacks, it lessened his anxiety in general, he had less depressive moments
>>217171756Lmfao kill yourself troon you will never be a woman and your reign over the establishment is over. We gon' cull u
>>217171888>rent free trannies nobody even brought up meds.
>>217171871No because he's still a fucking psychopath
>>217171857Everyone will like Many Saints of Newark one day!
>>217170163These faggot ass snowflakes talk a lot of shit but they're gonna get real fucking quiet now that we're taking the country back. Payback's a bitch, fags.
>>217171919It's actually not that bad of a film, this board is contrarian by design and usually wrong.
>>217171957The fuck are you schizo posting about?
>>217171957lol you're brown
>>217171914He was never there to be treated for sociopathy, he was there to be treated for anxiety. And it worked
>>217171988>>217171996dilate
>>217171959It was pretty bad anon. It had no focus, and clearly wanted to be about the riots yet had to also be about Tony. There were some ok moments here and there, but overall just felt like bad fanservice. The young Silvio made me cringe hard
>>217172048Are trannies in the room with you right now?
>>217172054The weakest thing about it is the casting choices but the writing is fine, the first half is the strongest part of the movie. It's not nearly as bad as people think it is.
>>217172086The whole story with Harold went nowhere and felt like it was supposed to be a different film. I liked that gandalfinis son played a young Tony, and I thought Livia was decent, but otherwise it was pretty shit casting, yea.I don’t think it was abysmal, it was just somewhere between bad and mediocre
>>217170441Sopranos is for men what The Office (US) is for women.It's that kind of show people with no personality can constantly reference and feel clever.
>>217172382Always with the scenarios
>>217172382it's uncslop
>show about non-white criminals would be wokeYou don't fucking say?
>>217170139if the sopranos was made today there would be a woman in their crew and there would be a whole sub plot about a black gangster who gains their trusts and becomes a maid man
>>217170139>One of the mobsters would be gay& they all would’ve clapped & celebrated it while booking a party at the Sausage Factory for Vito instead of being disgusted they unknowingly associated with an aids riddled faggot
>>217170179They leave nothing untouched. They will ruin every single franchise.
Sopranos was always dark woke
>>217170190>cruelty is an undying feature of existence that “woke” society believes can be erased.So beautifully articulated.
>>217170701Depicting someone in therapy or a gay person isn't "implicitly woke".
>>217170190Even if it can't be erased, societies can be more or less cruel.
>>217170799>entire point of the ending was that his therapy was working TOO well.The point was that it wasn't working and she was enabling him
>>217170139>oneNah, at least 2 or 3, and of course there would be a crew lead by a strong female with strong ethics and there would be black mobsters.
>>217170139modern Sopranos would imply that therapy works for Tony.
>>217170163Made you seethe with buzzword salad so he won.
>>217170799>Melfi basically told him to fuck off because she realised she was making a sociopath monster feel better about himselfShe already knew that but kept wanting to see him anyway. She only dropped him once her social circle found out and she risked losing face. The study she read was just a convenient excuse, just like Janice's shoes in the house for Ralph.
>>217170139>1990’s sopranos>vitos gay? We gotta whack him!>2025 sopranos >vitos gay>tony:my kid says we gotta do a float for their gay parade>sal:i know a botanist those guys love the flowers >chrissy: I mean… I dunno man I ain’t into fucking men…. Like maybe some Lacey stuff? For the float I mean >paulie: Aye! That’s an idea! those guys love the frilly shit
>>217170139And if life was woke Jesse would get an abortion after being brutally raped by a pack of BOOOOOOOP
>>217170207AI is just better... >>217170343Korean tv isn't good either
>>217170139he wasn't gay. it was the medication.
>>217170139If they made the Sopranos today they wouldn't say nigger, there would be no references to Christianity or divine punishment, there would've been crust busting instead of an implied BJ and Zendaya would be involved in some way
>>217170343why do they all look the same?
>>217170226????Vito wasn't gayHe was thereIt was a joke
>>217170139No, of it was written in today's woke times they would be Somalian and Tony's wife would be the boss instead of Tony
>People finally calling woke-shit woke>Soi-chugging beardy-boys all over social-media in complete melties, trying to damage-control and screeching about how everything you like was secretly woke all alongThis is been a hilarious phenomenon to sit back and observe.
>>217170616it isnt though. the difference is that a faggot/woman would write the sopranos in modernity and as a consequence the ethical dilemmas of being gay, medicated, and in therapy would never be authentically examined. the modern faggot/female brain is incapable of accurately portraying ethical dilemmas because they are incapable of entertaining a hypothetical situation without imposing their morality; though good and evil might not be obvious a la high fantasy, a subtle, subtextual moral calculus is invariably present.
>>217171912The entire Leftwing has centered their movement around kow-towing to trannies. They literally oust you in disgrace if you question trannyism from within their party, even slightly (see: JK Rowling).Therefore whenever talking to a leftshit it is completely valid to assume they are1. A tranny2. Someone who supports & cheerleads for trannies, so i.e. someone who may as well just be a tranny themslvesThat's not "obsession" (and assuming that it is is just you projecting and being obsessed with sex).That's pattern-recogniton. That's acknowledging your Party's values, which they themselves admit and advertise.If you don't like the association, you should have thought about that before making yourself "the Tranny Party".
>>217170226Thread should've ended here, sopranos slapped woke idolatry down with realistic consequences
It's actually commentary like the original post that helped me understand how duller people on the left approach media (as directly questioning them only provokes hostile reaction).They interpret everything as didactic regardless of authorial intent. In the Sopranos' case, this means themes like homosexuality or mental illness are included, by their thinking, for the shallow purpose of celebration or normalization. That ADHD, therapy, or a gay mobster might merely be narrative totems to express vulnerability, weakness, or trauma never occurs to them.Thus, such leftists find statements like OP clever; the themes of past and present are X and X to them, rather than X and Y. Silly anti-wokes liked X then, why are they bitching now?Conversely, this is why you get stuff like that webcomic where the lady tries to watch films they liked from 15+ years ago and cringes about how problematic/toxic they are. Anything before ~2012 to 2014 is rife with elements outside the modern overton window. For reddit-tier leftists, it's even worse - the inclusion of such elements, in a didactic system, amounts to promoting such behavior and attitude. This is why they reject classic literature. It's also why they feel compelled to cram woke elements into everything even when it violates verisimilitude; if all media is a didactic narrative and nothing else, they are morally compelled to include it in quantity.
>>217171361Tony would probably want to keep the gay guy alive despite casually killing others lol
>>217177377People on the right don't approach media outside of the slop they enjoyed as children. >reject classic literatureBut we don't. It's an objective fact that people on the left care more about culture than rightoids. It's why 99% of creators of culture are left, or at least centrists.
>>217177377>They interpret everything as didactic regardless of authorial intent. In the Sopranos' case, this means themes like homosexuality or mental illness are included, by their thinking, for the shallow purpose of celebration or normalization.? That is literally what the right thinks. Classic rightoid projection, every time man.
>>217176615I'm a leftist and I certainly didn't get into left-wing politics because of trans rights. Aside from trans people, I don't think that's why anyone is drawn to the left.
>>217170163It’s literally a joke and you’re 80 IQ brain missed it. /tv/ literally has been fucking invaded by 3rd world brown trash, I swear.
>>217177809Where'd you get that "statistic", dum-dum? Surely you can cite something other than a circular study published in the last fifteen years. Oh wait.You're gonna freak if you ever crack that Dostovesky on your shelf. Good luck solving the captcha.
sopranos made in today's times wouldn't be able to have all the affairs and shit because no matter how charismatic tony is not one modern woman who looks like the women he fucks on the side would fuck a man who looks like that
always with the scenarios
>>217170139They already made sopranos in today's woke times it's called the many saints of newark and it was all about the negroes.
>>217177377>This is why they reject classic literatureThe latest translation of the Iliad was done by a feminist who clearly loves classics so much she learnt ancient Greek in order to pore over classic texts despite their sexism.I really have no idea where a claim like this is coming from. Isn't it a common refrain that humanities departments are crammed full of leftists?
>>217177907You can be pro free market and still be part of the left. If you are anti-tranny or anti-nog you cannot be part of the left. Hence the left is a movement whose two core principles are nogs dindu nuffin and trannies are women.
would you watch a version of the sopranos where every woman (except for livia angel) had her speaking parts cut out?i would
>>217177822Oh man, we got a perfect specimen of the sort of creature I described. Half an hour to respond, and the best they can muster is a "no u." People on the right enjoy Sopranos despite its inclusion of certain themes because they appreciate how it serves the greater narrative. This confuses low browed ideologues who don't understand why your rightoids were okay with certain themes then but not in modern slop. I offered an explanation. Where is yours? PS - I haven't voted for the right in nearly a decade (unfortunately). I just loathe you. AI cannot replace you quickly enough. At least chatgpt can hold a better conversation than an anthropomorphized left-can't-meme joke.
>>217178061Those are downstream from a more fundamental leftist priority which is resisting oppression and opposing exploitation. There's no way to be 'anti-nog' without being oppressive. Most non-liberal leftists recognize capitalism as the cause of exploitation in the modern world and base their movement around either destroying capitalism or ameliorating it.
>>217177377They're mentally ill people with a very warped world view.
>>217178057She's doing a new translation precisely because she rejects the original text. Lattimore already did a fantastic English translation. Rest assured the new one has nothing to do with building a better mouse trap. Modern humanities defiling the literary canon and trading history for critical theory. Don't confuse invasion for attraction. They seek to denigrate and destroy. They believe on some level the cultural erasure will provide a new slate upon which they can advocate their values.
>>217170139The irony is that this faggot doesn't realize that Sopranos was meant to be a left-leaning subversion of the mafia genre to begin with, clearly written to ridicule the myths, hypocrisy and machismo surrounding it. It was never intended to be a straight up mafia show, and it's weird that people fail to see that.It's the same with Mad Men, which is fundamentally a feminist show, that had entire seasons with nothing but female writers.
>>217170343Gooks are fucking pathetic.
>>217170139Haha remember that scene where Chris told Jon Favreau (it was actually Jon Favreau playing himself) that one if the monsters accidentally fucked a tranny and got so mad they kidnapped him and set him on fire for being a faggot and Jon Favreau (that Jon Favreau) said it was the most hilarious thing he had ever heard then made a Hollywood movie about it?
>>217170694You forgot:> Carmilla shoots Tony for cheating on her and becomes the new Don> She then gets cleared of all charges after the mob gets busted and writes a bestselling novel that's just a very bare bones recounting of her daily life and everyone finds it "empowering"
>>217178311Then she marries the negro she had been having an affair with
>>217171516Are you fucking retarded? If you can't tell that The Sopranos is fundamentally woke in its messaging, then there's no fucking hope for you.
>>217178229I can't see evidence for her rejecting the original text anywhere.>Modern humanities defiling the literary canon and trading history for critical theoryCritical theory isn't a defiling of the literary canon. The canon stays relevant because people find new ways of engaging with it. You don't have to care for every Marxist or feminist reading of a classic work, but each time those are penned they're adding new life into the legacy of a text. It's something new to discuss that keeps the memory of a classic work in mind for a new generation. If literary studies consisted solely of digesting a text and then memorizing an approved interpretation, nobody would bother. Also, humanities departments don't solely consist of critical theorists either. There are a range of perspectives.>They seek to denigrate and destroy. I don't think so, not in general. The only way culture is destroyed in the modern era is by being forgotten or ignored. Most leftists want to discuss everything, especially in literature or art. Do you use /lit/? The most common post by right-wing anons there is that they refuse to read female authors, even the prominent ones like Woolf or Austen. I'd say our culture is far more under threat by this group of people who largely don't read and are engaged in a reconfiguring of Western civilization in support of their values.
>>217178184No, it's just laundering resentment against whites.
>>217178311>Pauli beats the fuck out of Jim White, the racist skin head gangster>"hey you don't mis-gender HER! I might kill an old white lady, or set fire to a republican once in a while, but I ain't into any of that transphobia shit! Capice?">Jim nods, scared for his life>"Any of you other nazi-knuckle heads want to say otherwise? Didn't think so">Pauli sits back down and allows the drag-story time event to continue
