People kill themselves but nobody ever rapes themselves. This shows rape is worse

>>217177603
can't rape the willing

>>217177558
Of this is true, then why is your existence wirse than death?

It's a rape-murder though she's pregnant

>>217177603
I can play this too. A common sexual fantasy for women and submissive gay men is being raped, but it's very rare for anybody to sexually fantasize about being murdered.

Really weird how the number of rape apologists on the internet strongly correlates with the number of indians on the internet.

>>217177558
I really hate man-on-woman rape, it's so boring and overdone
We need more movies where women rape men

>>217178412
>but it's very rare for anybody to sexually fantasize about being murdered.
I'm guessing you didn't see the video of that Vietnamese guy

>People kill themselves but nobody ever tickles themselves. This shows tickling is worse

>>217178462
This, but not just for movies.

The difference is, I could see a situation where I would want to kill someone but I couldn't imagine a situation where I would want to rape someone. Like, a regular person can comprehend why someone would injure or kill another person, but not why they would rape another person. It's why we think of rape as a particular kind if evil, you don't understand the impulse behind it.

>>217177558
I think it was getting the living fuck beaten out of her afterward that was the real tragedy.
Potentially it was rape and murder.

>>217178497
I think this is key. The act of killing prevents a person from doing certain things that might harm you now or in the future. Rape is purely an act of dominance and humiliation. There's no direct utility to it.

>>217177654
He's French, what do you expect. I liked Seul Contre Tous and Climax though those were good.

>>217178522
Is there no utility from having your enemies dominated and humiliated?
I think there is

Daym I think I am officially on some list the moment I click the Post button

>>217178497
rape as a form of control through instilling fear is one "practical" use. and you'd have to do a lot of raping, so not cost-effective concerning resources, time and energy. you just definitely won't see an archetypical hero in a story doing this for obvious reasons because if he's pushed to kill for the greater good, he's probably in a scenario that doesn't allow time for rape (i.e. doing battle with various foes in a race against time)

>>217177558
Joker 2 rape scene is literally the "worst" thing to happen

>>217178476
Like I said it's still rare. Rape fantasy has a whole industry and culture dedicated to it. BDSM is very big. Not to mention half the shit women read.

>>217178943
yes but in those fantasies they imagine the guy they actually like doing those things to them, not some random pajeet

>>217178497
>>217178522
Sure, let's talk utilty
If you had to choose, between letting 4 billion people die in murder, or 4 billion people getting raped, would you choose the rapes or the killings?

>>217178497
you've been neutered by p0rn. take that away and you'll be considering rape every other minute, every other chick. why do you think prisoners bumrush other prisoners despite everyone being straight?

>>217179274
>take that away and you'll be considering rape every other minute, every other chick.
I do this but I consider her raping me

>>217179261
Oh snap. Obviously murder is worse, fucking women on my 4chan talking nonsense.

I hear feminists say rape is the worse thing that can happen and death is preferable, which is why they prefer bears over men. If this is true we should see a suicide epidemic from rape victims.

>>217179261
Can I choose which 4 billion I would be killing!

>>217179297
>>217179315
You can't choose
It's obviously the women

>>217177603
In my language, masturbation is sometimes called a "self rape". Polish: "samogwałt"; suicide is "samobójstwo".

>>217179306
Wanna really fuck a chick up? Tell her that dying happens with or without consent. Convince her that death is the ultimate rape.

>>217177558
What if woman does not want when rape starts but then getting arousal in process then it no longer rape. I think it many times this way.

>>217178442
I'm not a rape-apologist. I am a rape-realist though.

>>217179261
Sure I'd rather let them be raped. I'd rather be raped than killed. The horror of rape is not so much in the harm done to the victim, even though it's obviously a great deal of harm. It's in imagining the mental state of the perpetrator.

>>217178476
You missed some key words: very rare.

>>217179459
Just because you "understand" murder doesn't mean you have more "utility" than a rapist
This is just a personal cope from you and the other anons trying to say you are better than rapist, because you understand murder (you don't by the way)

>>217178542
>He's French
He's not.

>>217179543
What is he then?

>>217180003
Jewish

>>217177558
I asked couple of girls of course those that where long time friends you incels can't just go around asking random girls such question... so the question was would you rather be raped or beaten up.
Answer was always raped, asked why? Getting beaten up must hurt way more...
So here you have it.

>>217177558
>message
when is this ever a message in a movie? it's more how audiences react to certain actions being show, as in violence and murder isn't seen as bad as sexual violence and rape

>>217177603
>nobody ever rapes themselves
i sat on a banana and that changed my life forever

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>>217177642
>dispose clumps of cells
>murder

I would say that women fantasizing about being raped by handsome men isn't too different from men reading amazonian snu snu doujins or saying 'nice' when a female teacher rapes a kid.
At least that's what I would say, but women's fantasies are more violent and include shit like choking, so all in all, I hate women.

>>217181315
You're a larger clump of cells, retard.

>>217181482
he has a soul, albeit preverted. a foetus does not, so not human.

>>217180003
Latinx

>psychiatrist raises the reasonable point not all child sex abuse is traumatic
>some victims grow up just fine and being TOLD they're "traumatized" can be what actually harms them
>publishes her study
>media outrage
>gets blacklisted from the APA

>>217177558
Does anything else happen in this flick?

>>217177558
Does your ass agree?

>>217178497

I imagine someone would consider rape if they wanted to have sex with someone who didnt reciprocate that feeling

>>217181667
the scene with the fire extinguisher is bretty good

>>217181619
Go be a retard somewhere else.

>>217181482

>i will throw this 5 gram rock at you
>i will throw this 1000 gram rock at yo

Theyre both just rocks

>>217178497
This is exactly it. It's so weird running into people who defend rape as being the lesser of the two crimes. Literally everyone has been mad enough to want to mortally wound or straight up kill a person, or more commonly has thought of scenarios where they have to kill in self defense. No normal person has thoughts of getting so upset that they want to rape someone or having to rape someone to defend against aggression. That's why rape is such a contentious crime, it never crosses the minds of even the most prone to violence people out there, it's an extremely odd thing to do.

What would the movie be like if he only gaped her asshole and left her there in a puddle of cum? How would you continue the narrative?

>>217181690
No, most people certainly don't feel that way. Matter of fact actual sexual attraction factors very little into rape.

rape is worse than death because it hammers home the idea your body is not yours. its a foreign entity that assaults your mind/soul/whatever. the people who didn't enjoy being raped didn't pass on their genes.

>>217179345
it was called self-abuse for a long time in english.

>>217179261
>Responding to anons discussing the dynamic of rape and how it’s different from murder
“Yeah but if you had to choose one to happen which would it be? Oh, rape? Clearly that’s the lesser evil.”

Yeah I’d rather lose my house than lose a hand but the sniveling Jew who took my home is going to draw way more ire than the street doctor which is part and parcel for living in a global city.

>>217181704
prove to me a foetus has a soul. you can't.

>>217181482
even the human body doesn't consider a fetus "alive" until it has a heartbeat and literally any complication will cause it to dump that clump of cells.

>>217178497
That's responding to a weaker version of the claim. The steelmanned version isn't comparing killing to rape. It's comparing murder to rape. Murder is by definition an unjust killing. So there is no situation in which a rational person could see themselves committing something that is definitionally unjust. I'd say that's an even more morally condemning definition than that of rape. You could craft an elaborate hypothetical how raping someone is the only way to save the world, in which case it could be argued to be just. No such elaborate hypothetical could be crafted for murder, since any just killing would definitionally not be murder.

>>217181865
A fetus has a heartbeat after a couple of weeks.

>>217178442
Everybody loves rape. You wouldn't be here without rape.

>>217181831
Prove to me that you have a soul (you can't)

>>217181880
i accept your concession

take note, this the only time this has ever been used correctly, as you've just allowed for the fact that life does not begin at conception.

you can see every detail of her tits it she probably caused a sexual emergency

>>217181900
I am a sentient being, I know I am. Now heed my request.

>>217181764
Thats an untrue thing that is constantly spouted by lunatics.

>>217181901
>>217181919
Just use a fucking AI to write your posts. I'm so sick of reading third worlders try and use my beautiful language.

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Gun to your head. Would you suck or die?

>>217181936
brosef i'm whiter than someone who fails a samefag check

>>217181901
Nobody says that other than weird Catholics. However once the heartbeat starts, killing a fetus is murder. Up to that point it's a bundle of cells. Once the heartbeat starts, it's a human.

>>217181619
>a foetus does not
proof?

>>217181936
sir i am trying to do my best posts here

>>217181958
>sheeeeiiiii nigga 67 cap frfr
kys faggot.

>>217181964
that is based in the clinical definition of death being "heart doesn't beat." meaning it is murder to kill LITERALLY ANYTHING with a heartbeat.

hope you're vegan.

>>217181936
These posts are highest quality from Brahma caste sir.

>>217182007
i'm also older than you
reminder: we lied to browns telling them that perfect english would make them matter (read: white)

>>217181985
Not sentient.

>If a woman doesn’t want to be pregnant than she shouldn’t have sex
This logic was always retarded to me. A woman’s value is in her sexual ability so telling a woman she shouldn’t have sex is like saying she shouldn’t have any value. What do you expect those whores to do? Sit at home and knit?

>>217182085
no, they can also sing, hunt, cook, harvest, clean, etc.

which means puritanical anti-abortionism is seated the economic value of a woman. el oh el.

>>217182085
>A woman’s value is in her sexual ability so telling a woman she shouldn’t have sex is like saying she shouldn’t have any value.
Retard, a woman's value is in her youth and virginity.

>>217182144
... so... fertility...

>>217182085
>misogynist get mad a women when they refuse to have sex
>misogynist get mad at women they they do have sex
girls can't win

>>217182059
proof?

>>217177558
What if you rape a womaj you like but then you marry her? That makes rape declassified?

>>217182218
Have you ever spoken with a child? Children are not sentient until like 10.

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>>217177558
Only if you are a man
If you are a man and got raped, you should genuinely neck yourself, death is better

>>217182200
you have this mental deficiency where you imagine every sentiment you don't like comes from the same person, and then decide that person is real.

>>217182200
Anon is doing that clever thing where he approaches the bad argument from a new angle which attacks the bad argument.

>>217182236
not according to the sex offender registry
t. her dad pressed charges for statutory rape and i'm still on it

>>217182256
Nah, I'd take the rectum invasion over death. Women have a hole made for it and they still fucking complain.

>oh nyooooo, I don't want to have sex with this man right now! I'm being forced, my life is ruined boohoo...

>>217182141
>They can sing, hunt, clean, harvest
I know you just moved to America, Ngumbo, but in Minnesota women don’t really “need” to do those.

>>217182297
bet you would, poof

>>217182299
anon. go look up when puritanism was started.

>>217177558
they push that because rape is usually seen as a crime against women by men, so all the feminists can push the victim button

>>217182297
yeah you clearly just want to get fucked

>>217182302
>death vs anal rape

I enjoy being alive. I'm tough, I could survive a shit in reverse I imagine. Women can't get over it because they are weak as fuck.

>>217182350
>i enjoy it up the ass
we know. no one cares.

>>217182384
*dies like a pathetic bitch*

Well, at least you didn't get raped.

>>217182329
Quite a few things have happened since the 16th century.

>>217177603
wrong

>>217182350
>I imagine
quite often, i bet

>>217182218
the foetus is a mere appendage of the mother, the mother is sentient, the foetus cannot be because it's like a limb. the mother experiences sensations, not the foetus.

>>217182261
Don't pretend that this is not a common occurrence, anon. Plenty of men get upset when women are sexually free and willing to show it. And equally upset when women are sexually reserved and won't budge on being coerced into performing sex acts.

i dont think vaginal rape is even real. my gf told me to try cram it in before any foreplay and without lube, and man unless i was ready to tear my frenulum it just wasnt happening. unless you like sticking your dick in an unlubed hole. this isnt a humble brag about me being big or her being super tight btw.

>>217182256
In Russian there's a proverb (originally rhymed):
There's no better vagina than you comrade's asshole
It smells worse but it is tighter

>>217182395
only brown people have this attitude
you all get raped as kids and then spend the rest of your life making excuses for it or raping children around you because it's "your turn" to rape someone.

>>217182399
now go look up when the catholic church decided that contraception was a sin

>>217182200
>misogynist
There's no such thing existing. Stop using made up words.

>>217178442
i want this site to rangeban india and russia
quality of discussion would shoot through the roof

>>217182431
sounds quintessentially russian, yeah

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Defending rape is not a very white-coded thing to do, for a board that's so heavy on that kind of thing.

>>217182444
that's a really good point. they had to stop doing this in the US so they came up with the "worst birthday party ever" where they do everything to the kid they can imagine that won't result in noticeable injury.

>>217182465
Rape is much more common in Pakistan than in India.

>>217182484
This, India are regional rape champions, Pakistan clears India when it comes to rape stats.

>>217182465
This was actually made by women...

>>217182465
acknowledging that human sexuality evolved in an environment influenced by lots and lots of "conquest," (read: your man is dead and you're getting fucked whether you like it or not) resulting in such psychotic psycho-sexual concepts as cycle-syncing within groups of women, involuntary lubrication, involuntary orgasm, and human beings being the one and only species on earth where females hide ovulation, is about as white as you can get.

>>217181654
[Desire to know more intensifies]

>>217182484
>brown shithole is slightly different than other brown shithole
nobody fuckin cares shit skin

>>217182497
>>217182484
least obvious jeet

>>217177558
She Was Asking for It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1u5wKOUWsA

>>217182524
>le natural order incel cope
what zero pussy does to a mf

>>217182527
go watch the masha babko interviews. She’s Russian so they’re default stoic, but, she makes a lot of great points while a bunch of old hags give performative responses at how hurt they are that she was so traumatized.

>>217182558
human tribes conquering other tribes and raping them into submission is a pretty clean example of short term "unnatural" selection.

see also: the transgender movement started in black male prison populations, where you had the choice between being beaten and raped or for your rapist to not beat you to shit and maybe even use lube.

>>217177603
Not true, I got married voluntarily

>>217182461
It wouldn't
t. 2004fag

>>217177603
I rape myself whenever I don't feel like jerking off but my porn addiction compels me to do it anyway.

>>217182620
oh it def would, a lot of (if not all) of the british broadcasting company, pol and gender/race ragebait spam would be gone

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>>217182635
thats literally 90% americans lmao

>>217182635
Learn2filter

>>217182584
What's the name of the psychiatrist? Masha Babka doesn't seem to return anything on wikipedia. If she makes a logical argument, I would be 100% down to shill it, as I already suspected as much.

>>217182584
>masha babko
Her videos are not legal in most countries.

>>217182660
sure bro

>>217182555
Trips of truth

>>217182684
She’s a high profile “victim” that got paraded around the Russian talk show circuit so they could pretend to be horrified by what happened, while ignoring why it happened.

>>217182687
The legal ones don’t have a bunch of old hags anon.

>>217177558
Women actually believe this though. Reproducing with Chad is their existential prerogative. Reproducing with non-Chad is a failure of their very existence and worse than death.

>>217179543
Anybody born in France is automatically French regardless of skin pigment. It's in their Constitution and won't change unless far-right douchebags win the Presidency.

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>>217181315
That's a cope so women can live with themselves for doing the most evil murder imaginable (a mother killing her own child in the womb.)

>>217178497
I can totally understand the impulse behind it

>>217177558
No such thing as vaginal rape. If it's wet enough to enter she wants you to fuck.

>>217183001
which they learn because their own bodies will dispose of that clump of cells multiple times during the course of their lives and it can happen at basically every stage of pregnancy.

>>217181654
Source?

>>217177603
Over half of women have a rape kink

>>217182418
Women are only sexually free for chads. When it's their turn to have sex, the hypothetical man you speak of gets rejected. Of course he's bitter, and I don't blame him.

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>>217182988
ive jerked off to this scene so many times

>>217183188
what your father never told you is you only get from this world what you command.

>>217181469
Guys who managed to get it on with their teacher seems to brag about it, get high fives and don't seem to suffer much from it. Maybe they do but aren't as open about it. Maybe it happens in rare instances.

A woman getting raped seems much more traumatic and harmful. If it's actual rape that is, not a loose feminist definition of rape. Yet most of them still fantasize about it, buy boobs about it and watch movies. I can't think of any comparable situation when it comes to men's sexual fantasies.

I've been to prison and spoke to guys who got locked up for rape. 90% of cases were just normal sex where the woman didn't explicitly consent. Remaining 10% is a violent attack.

>>217183217
anon we're like 15 years deep in the period where women are calling sex with a low value man "rape."

>>217183227
did you get... ?

>>217177603
>nobody ever rapes themselves
They do though

>>217183252
Laid? Yeah. There was a transwoman at our prison.

>>217183344
was she gentle?

>>217183351
She didn't use any teeth but her butthole stank of shit.

>>217183227
>spoke to guys
yes criminals never lie

>>217183351
he*
my mistake sorry

>>217183407
>women claim to be raped
yes women never lie

>>217182950
Incorrect

>>217182950
If I moved to China, would you say I’m allowed to be Chinese and call myself part of the Huaxia?

>>217183247
Pretty much. Talk to her the wrong way, compliment her the wrong way, do something that arbitrary invokes the ick, don't look attractive enough, make a deepfake, buy a hooker, watch porn and exist as a man and it's essentially rape.

>>217183461
it factually is

>>217183247
Most liberals still think it’s 1997 when it’s convenient. I’m still getting people who insist every immigrant is either Apu or Smiling Kebab Dealer.

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>>217183445
>criminals would never lie about women lying
you dumb as shit. also you're gay now, you fucked a man. getting "straight" guys is the ultimate gay fantasy.

>>217183508
Unfortunately it isn't. Factually speaking, ethnic heritage isn't alterable via government document.

>>217183508
It sounds like a cope generated by a people desperate to sustain their culture in the face of stagnant birth rates and global irrelevancy. Like how “immigrants are great because they have good food” was a cope, or “we don’t need to eat steak tonight, hamburger helper is just as good” is a cope for poverty.

>>217183499
you forgot
>her friends find out she fucked you
... but you clearly had some oddly specific stuff to work through there...

>>217183544
what about when borders move?

>>217183526
I'm trying to enjoy this thread. Please refrain from posting your wigger gifs lil bro

>>217183585
Border movement doesn't affect genetic material, factually speaking

>>217183629
your idea of "ethnicity" is directly informed by where various boarders are, anon.

>>217177558
holy shit, it finally clicked with me. Stream of consciousness schizo post incoming:

It's all because of male disposability (which both genders believe in) and women treating their sexuality as a valuable scarce resource that is zero sum (to a lesser extent men also believe in this), though not being honest about it. Rape is basically theft, in this conception. Similar to the current freakout of AI nudes of common women. But murder is much rarer for women. Men don't run up to women and stab them too much, but they do rape. The majority of victims of random deadly violence are men.

Therefore, feminism, which is secretly a female supremacist movement protecting things like female sexuality as a "in-guild" controlled monopoly, hates rape more than murder on a visceral level. Murder is a "not a me problem." Men are meant to die randomly. Men getting bright ideas that they can take female sexuality by cheat or force is a very real problem for women, on a power level. Women must at all time have maximal power over their sexuality and have the power to manipulate others with it and gift it to select males at personal behest. So they propagandize against the latter much more. Murder is a straight off/on thing. "Rape culture" is a gradation that can potentially degrade values of the product if the monopolist group isn't hysteric enough.

I could always sense something but never quite articulate why it seems to be that we, and especially feminism, really do seem to treat rape as a fate worse than death.

>>217183702
to simplify, all of this comes from hundreds of generations of back and forth conquest. male disposability? they'd fight and die to protect their women, accept their death and move on or you won't pass on your genes. sex? men would fight to get it, so protect it or you won't be viewed as valuable, so you won't pass on your genes.

>>217183700
Incorrect, again

>>217183883
turn the planet upside down. how do you classify your "ethnicities" now? checkmate atheist.

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>>217177603
people in fact do that quite often, they even pay other people to do that to them. Your innate logic system is flawed to the point that you are likely retarded, but nobody has had the decency to tell you. Stop, just stop. Don’t bother posting, just read along and nod your empty fucking head from now on.
>>217181315
yeah, well that retarded cope falls apart the moment you realize you’re just a bigger clump of-
>>217181482
oh wow, someone else is here that isn’t retarded? Respect.
>>217181619
both do, or both don’t. Half and half doesn’t work here, nice try though. >>217181921
prove you are sentient. Prove that sentience proves you have a soul. Does AI have a soul anon?

>>217184272
anon just call it self-abuse so we know you're a puritan retard

also get back to work mormonporn needs to update quicker

>>217184272
Who hurt you?