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Remember to use spoiler tags. Or don't, skxawng.
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I wish neteyam would've got more fleshing out in 2. His entire existence was to die. The death would've hit harder if he had some personality
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Am I the only one who stood up and clapped and went "HOLY KINO" when this scene came on? It's so pretty
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>>217199846
WE ARE FULL, PINKSKIN. YWNBAN(A'VI). YWNB ONE OF THE PEPOL. GO BAK. HISSSSS.
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>>217199929
>GoodMorningRDA headlines: IS NEYTIRI A RACIST??
>loses every sponsorship overnight
>Jake divorces her over the bad press
>dies alone and broke
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>>217199515
I really love her little smirk here
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>>217199889
I unironically basedfaced when Yoruk got back up and BTFO'D that dragon ship
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Fun Neytiri fact: she loves to have Jake wear human clothes and wrestle her down and handcuff her before having rough sex with her and calling her a dumb savage fucktoy
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>>217200037
>implying Jake is the dominant one
Yeah no
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>>217200009
Wonder what she thought when she saw the alien Chad she clearly was attracted to since they first met come to her village with a bag full of guns. Bet she didn't expect to see him again
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>>217199889
People have noticed that Eywa has eyelashes, something that Navi do not have. Could this just be a manifestation of Kiri, Tuk, and Spider, since they all have some human influence in them?
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>>217200097
You mean eyebrows? I don't see them. All Na'vi have eyelashes.
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>>217200097
Neytiri has gorgeous long eyelashes. You probably meant eyebrows, Na'vi don't have eyebrows
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How do Na'vi thermally regulate? Sweating, panting?
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Also just realized that she's got a couple of new scars on her face between A1 and TWOW. Don't mind them, they look sexy and tell a story
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>>217200037
I think she likes that less than anyone actually, retard.
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>>217200031
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4
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>ywn live in a human-earned Pandoran burgertopia
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>>217200290
Eywa should engineer a virus to prevent this from happening kek
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Just googled a few high-res pics and one of the links led me "you-know-where". God why, why, WHY are they such self-righteous insufferable faggots??
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>>217200031
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>Jerry Pournelle told me that his most enjoyable week as a sci-fi author was when Larry Niven and him sold an option on their "Footfall" to James Cameron and in the deal Cameron got a week to ask them questions.
>Cameron, he said, was greatest reader any sci-fi writer could imagine
https://x.com/Steve_Sailer/status/2006518659595047066
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>>217200237
>life size BUST
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>>217200290
I'm fearing that 1/4 of pandora is already human in A4. I don't like to see them too much in these movies
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>>217200313
>God why, why, WHY are they such self-righteous insufferable faggots??
Fuck em. They're stuck online for life.
They're meaningless creatures.
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So what's with the Tree of Souls and the Spirit Tree, both major regional Eywa nodes we've been shown, being surrounded by distinctly unnatural-looking gargantuan stone rings?
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>>217200349
I wish Cameron would make another sci-fi kino instead of a movie about Hiroshima, who gives a fuck about that we had Sloppenheimer already.
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>>217200388
I like to think the Navi were once technologically advanced but decided to return to monke and created Eywa as a bio-AI to take care of the planet.
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>>217200388
Remnants of ancient biodomes probably
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>>217200388
Probably just something he got from that artist who sued him teebeeaitch.
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>>217200442
>>217200451
That would explain why Eywa knows what tech to forbid.
I wonder if that reveal would come alongside humanity's third and most militant push triggering some greater response from the ancients specifically intended to protect Pandora from spacefaring species who aren't fans of Uncle Ted, and that reveal also leads to how they end up going to Earth trying to spread Eywa in 5. Humanity finally manages to get into the parcel and sets off the bomb.
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>>217200388
I always assumed it had to do with the intense flux that fucked with their senors when they took electronics near it. Like those locations are focal points of natural energy that existed all the way back in the primordial stage of the planet and these massive ring structures coalesced from molten rock aligned along the energy fields, and over eons those eventually eroded down to what we see. The nodes still contain that power which is why the spirit trees spouted there.
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>>217200265
>racist with three mixed race kids

She's clearly into raceplay
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I know I wasn't the only one who noticed this.
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>>217200678
yeah and the whales coming in at the end felt very Dune-like as well. I mean shiieett the whole thing is basically Dune, which of course is basically Lawrence of Arabia
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>>217200678
Yes, i realized it on my rewatch in a theater.
Literally when her voice resonated i thought of Dune, kek.
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I have seen some mild criticism that Toruk acted on his own against ships without Jake in charge.
Which is weird criticism because it's Kiri who ordered all creatures to kill human, just like Eywa heard them in the end of the first movie.
The reason for Toruk fucking over that ship was obvious so im not getting why were some people confused even.
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>>217200721
I didn't even consider that he'd obviously have heard the command, I just assumed he kept doing the job because it's what he was there for. He's so bloodthirsty it disturbs Jake to ride him and he'd just been pincushioned and dumped into the ocean like a drowned rat, why wouldn't he come back with a vengeance?
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>>217200787
this might be the case as well
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What with alpha centauri b and the other moons, it's rarely true night on Pandora. Going into the gas giant shadow should be more dramatic than is shown
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>>217200817
Neil deGrasse Tyson ahh post
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>>217200845
you're allowed to say ass here kid
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>>217199889
For me, it was the eclipse and the arrival of the Mangkwan.
>low droning horn as the riders drift onto screen
>whole host is yelling war cries and streaming smoke
Reminded me of Fury Road.
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The squids were so fucking cool. If it were a different movie they'd be straight up horror material.
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>>217200950
their mouthes reminded me a lot of the worms from the 00s kong movie
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The first scene of Spider's mask running out of oxygen was great. I've been in similar situations and it captured the urgency very well. No music, just a lot of bustle and uneasiness, and helpless panicking.
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I'm shoving the Tuk pedoposters into an lit oven for a moment to say that when they're in the water and Tuk says
>"You can't leave me by myself!"
I had the most intense desire to have a precious daughter to protect from this corrupted gay Earth.
https://www.tiktok.com/@ppowdr2/video/7591764738560904466
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>>217200924
>Fury Road.
another shit movie
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>>217200678
It actually seems to work too because Lo'ak says nothing afterwards and just puts Spider down, which a moment ago he refused to do since to him it would mean Spider just dies.
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>>217201076
Yes, it was mostly feminist, testosterone-hating slop unlike Jim's latest billie machine. But what I'm referring to were its best scenes, the parts that made you lament how ass everything to do with the protagonist cast was.
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>>217200313
Wasn't Neytiri 13 when she met Jake? Isn't there some convenient lore Cameron made up where Na'vi mature super rapidly then stay in their adult stage forever and age very slowly?
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>>217201206
She was 18 when she met Jake. But yes, Navi mature faster, are longer in their prime, and have a longer average lifespan of over 100 years.
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>>217200950
>The squids were so fucking cool. If it were a different movie they'd be straight up horror material.
They straigh up reminded me of "The Beast" and "The Beast 2" movies from 1996, about a giant murder squid. Used to watch it on TV when I was a kid, even recorded them both on VCR with my dad
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All character sex age talking is retarded.
With all the nakedness and raw sexuality these movies, and especially FaA, have it is evident that Cameron wanted them to not be looked at through the prism of dickless modern "norms".
Tsireya and Lo'ak didn't kiss not because Jimbo thought it's inappropriate cause of their age.
He might felt it wasn't necessary for plot reasons, or character arcs' reasons. Or because it will be too much for a movie to have multiple characters kissing, making each individual kiss less stand out. And so on.
But not because of "Le Age" bullshit.
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>>217201037
Jake sounds like a drill instructor or something in that scene. Sam Worthington does a really good job at playing the "dad who is good at heart but is way too military-brained"
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>>217201037
I know what Neytiri did. She hid the mask.
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>>217201286
Adding afterthought:
Most likely they didn't kiss because their love was portrayed as pure and sacred and devoted, and kiss would be a step into ordinary romance.
Kiri and Spider's case has different theme and implications so their kiss made sense.
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>>217201037
Speaking of that, i'd wish Cameron used mask issue in TWoW as well. Better for continuity and pay off.
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>>217200388
>distinctly unnatural-looking
>stone
Urbanite please...
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>>217201334
She was only intending on farting in the air filter, but someone walked in before she could put it back and she had to hide it somewhere random. Poor Spider took it like a champion. A Jack Champion, perhaps.
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>>217201334
I liked her reactions during that sequence and how those implications setup the role reversal during the Abraham and Isaac scene in the clearing.
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do you think they will find spider a dwarf ikran in the next one now that he has a kuru
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One could almost say they were cat calling her
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>>217201395
He'll get a regular ikran and he'll become the best and fastest rider due to his lower weight and profile, like a jockey.
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>>217201257
I remember that film. It lives in the same part of my brain as Creature from 1998.
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>>217201346
>i'd wish Cameron used mask issue in TWoW as well. Better for continuity and pay off.
he's almost always near humans/recoms in that one, it wouldn't be an issue.
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>>217201396
>gets CATcalled
>"careful witch, or I CAT"
>hisses a lot
>has CAT-like ears
>spits furballs all the time (heavily implied)
NINACbros, we're donezo...
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>>217201426
Holy fucking shit, anon I was just thinking about this movie about a mutated shark that learned to breathe air an walk but couldn't remember the name. Thank you!
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>>217201396
I'd fuck Neytiri like any redblooded American man would, but I would deeply impregnate Varaang
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>>217200313
Jim made her sexy and by God he was right to do so
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>>217201396
If she didn't want to get catcalled why did she start walking like she was on a catwalk and giving them side glances?
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>>217201442
Do I even need to say it?
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>>217201442
If NINAC, then why does Zoe act like a cat? She's not helping the NANC case
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>>217201334
>Tch. I should've just thrown it in the sea and say that a Tulkun ate it.
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>>217200313
>You gotta be SICK to find Tsireya attractive
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>>217201515
>>217201494
Oona doesn't seem to know about NANC either
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>>217201396
>tfw you will never casually harrass a blue qt
i'd stomping on the deck yelling AHWOOGA
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>>217201733
Kek, saved
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>>217201733
kek
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>>217200215
BHC control rods
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>>217201733
Nancbros it aint lookin good
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>>217201717
Tiger, tiger burning bright
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>>217201717
Cute kitty
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>>217199515
I like these threads, but they feel like an empty husk of the post-TWOW gennies... those were the days...
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I have post avatar depression brehs.
I'd like to watch all three in a theater now, one movie per day.
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>2B guaranteed, never bet against James!!
>Tracking 1.8-1.9, insane legs, 4 and 5 are a done deal
>Whoa looking to end up around 1.7, fantastic box office for 2026
>Holy shit 1.5B, James Cameron has done it again!!!
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>>217201906
>1.2 billies is still good!
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>>217201888
there sure was a lot more hype
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>>217201894
>I have post avatar depression brehs.
Same, dealing with it by playing FOP and talking to black Dominican chicks on Tandem (I'm a Russian fluent in Spanish, they fucking love this, I shit you not)
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>>217200267
Is he dead after the Venezuela invasion?
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>>217201920
It'll hit that this weekend, surely.
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>>217201906
>>217201920
Type it again without crying this time
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>>217201906
>0.9 billies is better than 99% of movies, cope, sequels are a done deal!
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>>217201894
I'm so glad I could experience the first one when it came to theaters again before TWoW, it was amazing and it wasn't even an IMAX theater
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>>217200442
>technology bad, we must return to monke
>2 billion years later all life on the planet is destroyed when one of their three suns explodes
What's the next step of their master plan?
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>>217202114
>technology good, we must consooooom all stars and galaxies
>universe heat death
What's the next step of their master plan?
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>>217202144
Using their technology to travel back in time to the beginning of the universe and conquering everything from the beginning
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>>217202114
Don't have to wait that long, the gas giant will pull in asteroids and comets from all over. One is going to be enough to sterilize the moon, at least of the macrofauna
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>>217199515
What are AFAG's religious/spiritual beliefs now that the inevitable heat death of the universe has been mentioned? I personally think reincarnation is a harsh truth so I cope lots about its lack of empirical base.
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>>217202144
>universe heat death
Unproven hypothesis.
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>>217202164
I believe that whatever happens, happens
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>>217202114
>suns explodes
skydemon nonsense, eywa provides.
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>>217201888
tukgag aside it feels like we'd just be retreading the same talking points, the only thing I see missing is a rip or camera reel of fire n ash art book to occupy the gennies some more
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>>217202204
but why does it happen, you think?
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>>217202235
>tukgag aside it feels like we'd just be retreading the same talking points
Kind of like the movies.
It's like pottery, it rhymes.
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>>217202235
Does anyone have that new "making of Avatar" book?
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>>217202248
I don't think about that. Like, how would knowing why something happened help me when I still have to go to work tomorrow?
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>>217202164
>What are AFAG's religious/spiritual beliefs now that the inevitable heat death of the universe has been mentioned?
Just trying to marvel at our Earh before corpo pigs haven't managed to ruin it completely yet, find some peace and happinness before inevitabely returning to the eternal abyss.
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>>217202275
Do you engage in the understanding side of it (science) or do you feel that kills the magic? What's the standard for what deserves to be kept mysterious and what doesn't?
>>217202272
Maybe you wouldn't want to go to work at all if you looked deeper into it, maybe it would give you a boost in dedication.
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Can Na'vi eat human flesh and get nourishment? What about the other way around?
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>>217202310
Why wouldn't they? Meat is meat.
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>>217202341
There are differences in biochemistries. They should be mutually inedible or poisonous
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>>217202310
It would be extremely painful
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>>217202305
>Do you engage in the understanding side of it (science) or do you feel that kills the magic?
To me it enhances "the magic". Even though we have no idea how the universe or life on Earth started, the sheer fact that we have the brain capacity and curiosity to try to find out is just as cool as any wand waving or spell casting
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>>217202354
FE FI FO FUM
I SMELL THE BLOOD OF NA'VI SCUM
BE THEY ALIVE OR BE THEY DEAD
I'LL GRIND THEIR BONES TO MAKE MY BREAD
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>>217202168
Cope
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>>217202384
Not an argument, hippie.
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>>217202164
call me a narcissist but I hope reincarnation isn't true because I'd really hate to forget who I am now
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>>217202389
Entropy don't real is the essence of hippiedom, what are you on about?
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Who hurt you so badly, Kiri?
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>>217202409
Smoking grass and catching STDs like they're pokemon is the essence of hippiedom, philosophy is the last thing going through their drug addled brains.
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>>217202389
>nooo, Ray Kurzweil told me technology will keep growing faster forever and we will achieve technoheaven and live forever with technology
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>>217202429
>NTR'd by an older more experienced woman
Kiribros...
Not like this...
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>>217202443
Nah, there's hazy philosophy behind it - the universe is benign and harmonious, only human hang ups make it appear otherwise etc
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>>217202398
>I hope reincarnation isn't true
me too
>just suffer every day until the sun explodes bro
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>>217202429
Why can Kiri suddenly control her brain tail like some fucking Predator plasma gun kek
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>>217202560
Made eye contact with Eywa.
She's a literal oracle where Varaang plays at being a witch.
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>>217201733
Look at those perky tits bros
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>>217202579
Is it just Navi magic or do they all have muscles in the braid?
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>>217202560
because varang can do it too. why don't you complain about it?
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>>217202589
I could be an autistic faggot with zero understanding of mythic phenomena in sci-fi/fantasy films and say that they all have muscles, and Eyway personally pumped hers up enough to be prehensile, but I'll just go with the cooler explanation, pic related.
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>>217202609
Because I didn't remember her doing it. In the webm Varang guides hers with her hand.

>>217202617
Fucking magic man
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>>217202560
How can be this be? For she is the Katsnatch Haderach
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>>217202429
>>217202560
Kiri controls her kuru like it's a xenomorph's tail.
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Watched it yesterday.
3D was hallucinating, really crazy, especially with the tech, for some reason much less with the nature.
To me the wind traders ruin the magic of this world, too much advanced and the concept of trading is polluting the mood. Also their sequence adds nothing.
Tuk got some useful screentime yay.
The writing of the RDA has become weird, are they now practicing extrajudicial and public executions? Wtf is this banana republic?
The ash clan rocks, Varang sexo.
The story was banal, we haven't moved an inch from the previous installment.

Overall the best theatre experience this year.
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>>217202944
>The writing of the RDA has become weird, are they now practicing extrajudicial and public executions?
They're basically EIC. And EIC (along with every other similar colonial "trading" company at the time) has state-like powers because they're seen as an extension of their home country
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>>217202114
>have 2 billion years in blissful paradise before the inevitble end which must always come to all things
Let me guess, you need more
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>>217200349
Pournelle was an ultra chud, many considered him a Fascist
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>>217202944
>Also their sequence adds nothing.
the attack on them where we first see Varang was cool as fuck
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>>217202944
>The story was banal, we haven't moved an inch from the previous installment.
This is about the only real issue I have with it, but it was still very captivating. And there were still some developments
>Humans can adapt to Pandora
>Kiri is an Avatar of Eywa through Grace
>Tulkun can fight again
>Bridgehead is severly undermanned/armed militarily
I don't mind much that the overall humanity-RDA conflict didn't go too far because all the inner conflicts got solved and that's more important imo. James can always add a scene or two in the director's cut of how weak and useless bridgehead became without command and the equivalent of its only carrier strike group.
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>>217199515
When (if) A4 happens it will be cool to see Jake getting killed by an orbital nuke in the first 10 minutes when the military arrives and shows they're no longer fucking around. And then the ensuing 2h 50 minutes of gorilla warfare by his now-adult children and Renegade Quaritch.
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>>217201965
>Spends 600M on autistic Cameron cgi and overpriced actors
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I can't stop thinking about mommy varang
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>>217203624
He says, while posting loli Varang
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>>217203653
She identifies as a mommy
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Reminder you can have civilization as complex as Aztecs or Inca as long as they build with mud brick or wood
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>>217203705
>can't pile stones
>can pile mud bricks
Genius
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What would happen if an exiled na'vi walked up to bridgehead and asked for a job
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>>217203917
depends on whether the exiled navi is a cutie or not
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>>217202609
Varang can't do it, Kiri is the only na'vi who has done it.
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Damn, bro really got his shit pushed in.

Anyway, why did Jake want to spare him at the end of A3? Jake lost his son, Q threatened to kill more of his kids and even his entire family. Kidnapped his kids several times and Neytiri too. Tortured a bunch of Navi. Regardless of Q now being a blue guy, those are words and actions you don't get to come back from. Really hated how Jake was all "wait wait!" when Neytiri was about to drive an arrow through his head.
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>>217204038
I keep forgetting that purebloods don't have eye brows
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>>217199929
I want Neytiri to berate me
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>>217204122
Jake knows Quaritch would be a powerful ally.
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>>217204122
He didn't want to execute Spider's loving father in front of him moments after Quaritch nearly sacrificed himself to save him. He was probably even thinking of trying to bring him over to their side again when Quaritch's least favorite person showed up and spooked him.
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>>217204122
Because he wants to believe and prove that just because someone has a human "soul" doesn't mean they are evil. He struggles with the same belief himself, Jake doesn't want it to be true that all humans or avatars have to be hated because that would mean admitting he can't belong with the Na'vi ("I'm human too, inside, do you hate me?") and it would mean the same for his children.

He also knows recom Quaritch is not the real Quaritch, but really a victim of the RDA who loaded him with a dead man's memories of hostility and hatred and told him to go kill. Jake believes the beauty and way of life of Pandora can open the eyes of anyone, like it did for him.
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>>217200442
I also think the "no metal" rule has something to do with AI-wa. That flux where Quaritch/Sully fought at the end destroys metal, it might be that there are processes inside the planet that sustain AI-wa and Pandora as a whole, but too much metal interferes with it. Or perhaps the metal is used by inner layers of the planet, so AI-wa doesn't want it to be mined.
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>>217204297
I think the metal helps power it or allow it to function, which is why the big concentrations are under home trees and soul trees
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>>217204257
I'm pretty sure Jake doesn't believe Grace, Norm, Trudy, Patel or the other humans and avatars are evil, and that he's a special exception.
His rant at Neytiri is a grief-driven outburst about her own misgivings, and even then, if you finished that scene thinking Neytiri actually hates Jake or her children for what they are, you're on the spectrum.
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>>217204168
jake and quaritch would make a cute couple. I can take care of Neytiri instead.
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>>217204492
And that conveniently leaves Varang for me
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>>217204526
And that conveniently leaves teenage Tuk for me
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>>217204565
>teenage Tuk
Mind if I take care of her while you're waiting?
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>Please, Neytiri, I need this! My clan is kinda homeless... we live with the Sky People... I wanna help them out
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>>217204475
Jake basically showed her "The most racist Na'vi alive, and her husband" meme. She does genuinely hate humans, and hatred clouds her mind in a way so she didn't understand that would include her family.
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>>217204027
she literally did it to sneak plug quaritch when he took her hostage and immobilized both her hands
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>>217199515
>diffured
>focaed
Typos or am I retarded?
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>>217203705
>civilization as complex as Aztecs or Inca
That's what I expected when we learned the fire Na'vi will be evil and against Eywa but alas.
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>>217204297
>That flux where Quaritch/Sully fought at the end destroys metal
Nah man that thing was just a big magnetic field. It doesn't destroy metal, only yeeting them away to the sky. It's just when a big object made from different grades of metal enters it, its smaller components tends to get yeeted up at a different rate, causing disitegration
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>>217204649
NTA, but I don't think you can blame a grieving mother whose eldest son died in her arms just a few days ago for lashing out, acting irrationally and saying things some of which she doesn't really mean.
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>>217204792
Neytiri is not allowed to be happy on-screen, only suffering and violence is allowed.
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>>217204940
>Picrelated: A Na'vi, high af on catnip
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>>217204792
It was a great scene. Probably the best acting from them in the series so far. Their stress and emotions have been through the roof for months, Neytiri starts having a mini breakdown, Jake pushes back and she says them things that probably should have stayed unsaid. Jake immediately recognizes that he pushed her too far and apologizes. The whole thing felt very real
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>>217204620
Sure, you can play patty cake. Anything else and you will be eaten by Eywa's squids.
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>>217205032
That scene actually reminded me that our protagonists are far from perfect tree-hugging smurfs the haters like to meme them as, which makes them that much more relatable. This one scene had more emotional charge than anything Disney shat out with its capeshit or SW aside from Andor in more than a decade. We're watching a story about flawed people who stay together, help and support each other no matter what, not some quippy-snippy nothing can have consequences caricatures.
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>>217204940
that giant rift vortex is powered by the intensity of Neytiri's suffering
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>>217204940
I just want her to be happy again, bros...
I would unironically prefer the series to conclude with humanity doomed to extinction than with Neytiri being sad
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>>217205200
>wanna pinky swear?
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>>217205200
I took my parents to see Fire & Ash and during that scene I saw my parents hold hands. It made me realise we are watching 10ft tall cat aliens have a complicated emotional argument between a married couple about grief and prejudice, and we are completely invested in it.
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Jake should have killed Spider
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>>217205480
No, Ewya wills it. Spider must live and make half human navi babies with kiri.
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>>217205480
When he got his breathing fungus, now it's way too late for that, he'd just destroy himself and his family
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Spider must be so used to having knives held up to his throat by now he isn't even phased
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>>217205480
I agree. It's too ridiculous the amount of fakeout deaths and "oh no I'm captured and in trouble! Just kidding, I'm free already haha" moments. They could have Spider brought back to life by Eywa later or something.
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>watched everything avatar related
What now? Have to wait 5 years for the next one?
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>>217199515
This movie shows the divide in audience and director views. People expect a progression of the overarching conflict, the interspecies struggle of na'vi vs humans, but Cameron is much more interested in the internal conflict, the interactions between characters on one side while the other merely serves their development, on which the movie gives full closure as opposed to the greater battle. I don't mind it at all because I like the characters (even Spider, I think the character is very well done and faithfully portrays a stray cat-like teenager), and I get to see more of the world anyhow. I think it's the right choice from a posterity pov, it breaks away from the criticism of being shallow in "being just a pretty picture." But as for the financial pov, maybe it wasn't the right call, but I'm glad Cameron at least stuck to his morals.
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https://mega.nz/folder/d0JgQL6L#0W82HF9HPWWyZwwRP-RanQ

here's the link to my Neyney folder someone asked for last thread
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>>217199579
>You are not in Kansas anymore
>Why so blue?
>Brought you a burger

He always gets the best meme lines
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>>217205796
Play Frontiers of Pandora.
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>>217205796
There won't be a next one unfortunately, but if there is, it will be done with AI, for the most part.
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>>217205802
>This movie shows the divide in audience and director views.
No, no. The audience is on board with Cameron, it's the critics who aren't. The people too cynical, the ones who break down narratives into their constituent parts and analyze them rather than experiencing them. Those are the ones who can't handle what Avatar is doing.
The movie has, let me remind you, already made over a billion dollary doos at this point.
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>>217205829
UBIsoft is basically the Gaming RDA

>you dont hate them enough
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>>217205862
This, the dissonance between opinionmakers and the moviegoers has probably never been worse than in case of avatar. Maybe something like the thing compares
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>>217205871
They aren't that bad, they are just hilariously mismanaged but I suppose any company of this size is bound to end up that way.
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>>217205862
>The movie has, let me remind you, already made over a billion dollary doos at this point.
Not enough for everyone involved and it'll finish way below TWOW. Critics are trash but there is a broad sentiment of the latest movie not fulfilling anything, which tells me people were expecting full closure on the larger battle but don't really care for the stakes set up by 2 for the characters, because with them that "criticism" doesn't apply in the slightest.
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>>217205796
That's how life is. The big events take time. They are not to be binged and slopped constantly. Get on with your life, succeed rather than agonizing over it, discuss with your bros while patiently waiting, be in a better place when the next one arrives.
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>>217205921
they are bad because they make hundreds of games that are literally all the same. Imagine if a good company made the avatar game who unique and cool it could have been.
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The general publics likes Avatar for the visuals, the CGI and the 3D. They don't analize movies so deep as the critics. Only a minority of the audience that are more interested in movies analize the movie more deeply, the majority just goes, watch it and that's it.

Do you think that a family with 2 parents and kids is thinking so much about if the characters or the story was good or not after they watch it? No.
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>>217199515
How do we feel now that James confirmed the artic regions are what we gonna explore next
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>>217200678
they should have a silence off
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>>217199515
why do third worlders like this series so much?
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>>217205971
Oh how I wish they had someone other than Ubisoft. And wish that they had a human campaign to play
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>>217205921
>They aren't that bad, they are just hilariously mismanaged
Tencent bought ubisoft and is know under the process of massive firing people. Almost everyone of the social awareness group of the company has been fired.
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>>217205984
Pandora has no axial tilt and land free poles so they'll be mediocre snowy wastes tbqh
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>>217199515
Schizotime:
>James wants to do a movie about the nvking of Japan next (justified btw)
>Avatar 4 is a big tonal and circumstancial shift from 3, will have big time gap
>Cameron will probably try to make the explosion the big draw for the Hiroshima picture, will probably figure a way to transmit it to audiences physically, like a kinetic 3D, akin to the 3D revolution achieved by Avatar in 2009
>the same tech will be replicated in A4 with the RDA being kicked out but returning with a gloves fully off mindset, by nuking Pandora from orbit, and the time gap is either until they return and carpet nuke the moon or after it is done to show how resistance evolved in the meantime
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>>217205998
2009 game has human campaign with lots of usable vehicles and movie cameos. And Hell's Get is a pretty much 1:1 recreation
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>>217205984
Source?
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>>217205892
The difference in score for audiences and critics is about the same for Fire and Ash as it is for 13th Warrior, though the latter is much lower overall
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Do Na'vi need salt in their diet?
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>>217199515
I can now say
>Avatar has the best first act (and highest highs)
>TWOW has the best final showdown and culmination/ending
>FaA has by far the best middle section and 3rd act until the final battle, which was the weakest (but still very solid), and a very strong beginning too, almost as good as A1
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>>217206052
4D has been a thing for a while. It can put wind, shaking, heat, water spray, and other sensory experiences at an audience
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>>217205984
There better be chubby Russian-coded Navi women
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>>217205984
I didn't know Pandora had them but I hope they're explored as much as the reef and not the volcanic region
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>>217206524
It will require an update. It will have to make the audience feel a slight burn, possibly give them ball and breast cancer.
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>>217206252
I think the first film has the best setup/opening too, but the two sequels do pretty much everything else way better in my opinion. The Way of Water has incredible spectacle, world design, action scenes, and Fire and Ash has the best character moments/development and overall narrative.
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>>217200037
no anon that is her daughter Tuk
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>>217206076
Https://www.ign.com/articles/james-cameron-says-filming-the-new-secrets-of-thrpenguins-documentary-was-literally-survival
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>the only way to *slow down* Humanity is the constant intervention of a literal god
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>>217205480
Sacrificing the few to save the many is the exact opposite of the message of these movies
>it's just one life
>it's just one clan
>it's just one species
>it's just one planet
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>>217206742
>404
I see.
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>>217206742
>>217206760
Not sure why that broke. This one should work.
https://www.ign.com/articles/james-cameron-says-filming-the-new-secrets-of-the-penguins-documentary-was-literally-survival
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>>217206749
>>it's just one life
>>it's just one clan
>>it's just one species
>>it's just one planet
I mean, thats just true ok.
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>>217206787
Yeah this one works, probably just the capital H in the first one
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>>217206760
>I see
You
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>>217206749
>one life
>one clan
>one species
>one planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyPMc38Q5Bc
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Jake is for…
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>>217206869
Doing regular maintenance on his personal arsenal that none of the clan will touch
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>>217205683
Who's "we"?
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>>217206930
>Who's "we"?
human beings, so, not you.
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>>217206787
It's either where survivors from the nuke blast seek shelter, in the poles, placing it in 4, or in 5 where they find an interstellar ship from an ancient race in an iceberg and use it to go to Earth.
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Once the Na'vi break Eywa's laws and embrace technology to start defeating the humans, they will have bitten the fruit of knowledge against God's will, and they shall be cursed and expelled from the Gardn of Eden
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>>217206869
passionate sex
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>>217206787
How do na'vi keep warm in the cold poles?
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>>217204652
Go watch it again, Quaritch has a rifle in his right and her braid in his left, her arms are free and guides the tip of her kuru towards his
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>>217207367
Either much thicker clothing or they are shorter/stockier or somehow hold way more body fat than the other na'vi
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>>217207367
They adapted to it like the Metkayina. They are very fluffy snow cats with wide paws for walk on soft snow
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>>217205683
A little bit on the nose, Jimmy
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>>217206787
>hey Neytiri lets travel to the coldest part of the moon!
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>>217207492
>Good news honey! I got us a trip with the Wind Traders for our second honeymoon!
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>>217199515
I had no one to watch this film with in theaters. Anyone know when VODs come out?
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>>217207492
Neytiri will look so cute in her fluffy fur lined coats!
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>>217207559
Just go alone noob
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>>217199889
>Eywa is chinless
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>>217207492
Something about Neytiri not learning how to swim well or hold her breath, then her children helping her and encouraging her through the dive, was so heartwarming to me
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>>217200290
looks comfy
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>>217207524
>Mfw I just sat through the scene with blinded whale, all emotional and chocking to not shed a tear, and then came back to see this faggot screaming that it's just whales and trees and that he hates it.

Some people are just dead inside and aren't shy bragging about it.
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>>217200313
>She was 13 in Pandoran years you sick fuck!
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>Quartich takes Spider to work (torturing innocent people and burning their homes)
>acts surprised that Spider distances himself from him

is Quaritch a retard?
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>I'll blow grandma's skinny shit through the back of the hooch cause I just don't care
Quaritch would make a great ICE member
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>>217207854
He's probably just doing what his dad did for him
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>>217207886
He's blue cause he's ICE cold
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How intense was Neytiriposting back in 2009? God, I missed out
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>>217200313
Who could sexualize this??
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>>217207886
>be ICE
>actually be invading another land and killing its citizens because they don't just submit to all your demands
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>>217207956
I don't think Avatar had any cultural impact back then, it was all just
>Dances with Smurfs lol
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>>217207987
It was a different time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKtyJ3nPBU
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>>217207970
Me obviously
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>>217207818
varang is 60 years old btw you sick fuck
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>>217207977
>tfw Quaritch actually has more restraint and trigger discipline than ICE members
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So now we know.
>Avatar 4: The Polar Express
>Avatar 5: Earth Day
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>>217208102
>lyle
Great supporting character, he's growing more and more done with his CO's shit but he's still doing his job
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>>217206787
You know what Arctic Pandora means? RDA clubbing baby seals.
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Any anons want to make an image of Ardmore and Lyle in bed together? Drawn or AI. It'd be funny as the only male Na'vi on female human couple
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>>217208074
Idk that information comes from ai summery which is usually dogshit at getting accurate information. Honestly she should be around 20 years. Quaritch likes em young ( Leonardo DiCaprio style)
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>>217208484
>See this vial? This is Se'ale' blubber. This stuff will make your penis 4 inches larger.
>That makes this the most valuable substance known to man...
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>>217208601
Said Scoresby, as a head in a jar with a fully mechanical body
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should Randy Quaid be in Avatar 4?
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>>217204209
ahh thanks my Pure Love will come to me I know it in my heart
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>>217208601
The rich humans already have their gigachad avatars. They use the machine to inhabit giant behemoth human bodies with enormous muscles and two foot dicks. And also tiny small womanly bodies for when they feel like it
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the pandoran cheese.
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>>217209316
>not allowed to use the wheel
>still make wheels of cheese
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>>217209377
they're not allowed to using TURNING wheels. Cheese wheels are ok as long as they're not spinning
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>>217209409
So they can't race them down the hillside?
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>>217209377
They can make circular shaped things like for art/decoration but not like wheels as tools or vehicles.
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>>217209415
absolutely not.
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Sell me on this. I actually liked the original a lot even if it was really on the nose with it's Ferngully "humans are destructive assholes return to nature" messaging, are the sequels at least as good? What the fuck was Cameron doing since 2010 that made the sequels take so long to come out?
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>>217209377
>>217209431
>>not allowed to use the wheel
wtf that's a serious thing? they can't use wheels as a law? thats gay
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>>217209567
No wheels, no metals and whatever you do, do not stack stones on top of one another. These are the laws of Eywa, passed down from the first songs.
>>217209528
James Cameron was diving into the Challenger Deep with a submarine he helped designed instead of making movies, that's why it tooks so long. I prefer Way of Water and Fire and Ash to the original but your mileage may vary depending on how much you can enjoy the family drama.
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>>217209567
It's not gay. The religion of Eywa has forbidden such knowledge and is good. She knows better than you what such things lead to. You shall stay at that level of technology and no further.
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>>217209608
Cameron was waiting for the motion capture technology to mature and it really shows. They almost didnt get Avatar 1 made because that tech was so cutting edge and expensive. But it was even more important for the sequels.
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>>217209528
both sequels are back to back and take place 15 years after the 1st movie, and it's Jake and his navii family vs le meddling humans AGAIN, twice more

It's not really what I wanted so many years after the first movie, but if you like the world of avatar, they are entertaining enough action flicks

going forward, I'm hoping for a navii war or pandora kaiju attack as something fresh after le evil humans 3 times now
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>>217205480
Too late. The RDA already took scans and samples of him. It's over for the na'vi.
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>>217200009
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>>217202398
The alternative is permanent nonexistence.
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>>217208074
no
not a chance
pure fabrication
we completely made that up
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>>217202164
Isn't there a prevalent theory right now that the heat death of the universe and the big bang are part of a huge cycle that inevitably happens over and over again, possibly forever, and likely has happened before? Like, all the stars die, everything goes dark and quiet, then over an obscenely long period of time everything slowly gets pulled together by gravity and eventually all matter in the universe is compressed so absurdly tightly that it ends up exploding in a massive burst of energy, repeated ad infinitum?
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>>217200388
It's Magnetic Field Lines
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>>217204257
>Because he wants to believe and prove that just because someone has a human "soul" doesn't mean they are evil. He struggles with the same belief himself, Jake doesn't want it to be true that all humans or avatars have to be hated because that would mean admitting he can't belong with the Na'vi ("I'm human too, inside, do you hate me?") and it would mean the same for his children.
That's a retarded philosophy. Quaritch isn't evil because he's human, he's evil because he's a violent sociopath. Same way Varang isn't good just because she's Na'vi.
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>>217209719
Kek, if you're not an avatar fan then fuck off back to whatever other dumb series you like. Don't act like Jim should force in some stupid shit like kaijus into his story to appease you since you dumbass was thinking Avatar is something it's not
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>>217209749
There are more options for the afterlife than just reincarnation or oblivion.
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>>217209749
We were permanently non-existed for billions of years before. It was pretty swell.
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>>217209899
I wouldn't call it swell, it was just nothingness. I'd prefer getting extra lives over pure neutrality.
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>>217209793
Last I heard, that theory was debunked cause gravity is not slowing down the rate at which the observable universe is expanding, in fact the expansion is accelerating.
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>>217209913
It was very swell. No unhappiness whatsoever. Just a nice sleep. Then brought into the world of pain and misery.
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>>217199515
Quick reminder if you watch this you're retarded or brown (or both)
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>>217209899
We weren't alive beforehand to ponder about non-existence, not remotely comparable.
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Why do Avatard threads always do this? You people either argue about the continuation of consciousness and the self between cloned iterations or you do this mumbo-jumbo about existential dread
Post lewd space cats instead
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>>217209860
Well really recom Quaritch is evil because that's the person he was told he is supposed to be. But Jake's point was that he doesn't have to be that anymore. Varang though is just a crazy bitch.
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>>217210046
Somebody opens the can of beans and then it just escalates. That's why discussions get so derailed here.
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>>217203705
>Reminder you can have civilization as complex as Aztecs or Inca as long as they build with mud brick or wood
Or the Missisipi Culture that build the city of Cahokia with it's great earth work pyramids.
Old Kingdom Egypt was also mostly a stone tool society when they build the great pyramids (they also had tools from soft metals like copper and bronze). You can have agriculture, urbanism, a centralized state, a standing military, scholars who can compute the movement of stars, writing, etc. all without ironworking. Real life is not like a video game tech tree where inventions and institutions are gated behind eras and progress bars. There's some way the Na'vi could go, even without masonry, wheels and metal working.
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>>217210160
The songchords already reminds me of the Inca knot language
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>>217209409
Humans should just explain wheelbarrows to the na'vi. This would instantly kill their religion, because those are too good to give up on.

Incidentally, wheelbarrows would also probably be the single most useful technology a time traveller or isekai protagonist could introduce to a medieval society. All those ideas about showing them steam engines wouldn't work for a number of reasons, for example because metallury couldn't make pressure chambers strong enough yet.
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>>217210319
The ancient Romans did discover how steam engines work

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile
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Do Na'vi do any permanent art like stone carving or cave painting?
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>Bridgehead houses less than 50k humans by the time TWoW rolls around
How many do you think died by the end of F&A? Considering it's mostly blue collar workers and corporate militia, i don't think they can outbreed the casualties, and reinforcements from Earth are both only once a year and six years of travel away
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>>217210209
>Inca knot language
One of the few areas of technology where native american societies were superior to europeans was textile engineering. They also had hammocks and rope bridges, which were both new to europeans. Hammoks especially were quickly adopted by the spanish and then greatly improved life/spacing on ships.

Cameron might be going into a direction like that with the Wind Traders who build giant, complicated whickerwork constructs. Maybe in the end it'll turn out that the omaticaya were just the sentinelese of Pandora kek.
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>>217210013
You're very dim kek. Either your were reincarnated from the life before this one or in the same non existance you'd be returning to after a very brief blip of life. You didn't care then, you won't care now.
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>>217210489
What do people do onboard while waiting to arrive at Pandora?
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>>217210537
They go into cryp sleep as shown in the first movie the crew is awake for few years at a time
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>>217210489
Don't worry, after the eight year time skip, a huge fleet of colony ships will arrive with millions of Chinese and Indian settlers
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>>217210364
>Aeolipile
I thought about mentioning it, because I knew someone else would otherwise lol. I don't have my literature/links here with me, but from what I remember roman metal working would not have been able to make boilers strong enough for useful pressure. Not that they couldn't have developed them eventually, but the typical isekai nerd fantasy of becoming a hero by showing them steam engines would just blow people up lol.
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>>217210602
Neyney already is not a fan of humans, imagin her finding out about the jeets
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>>217210489
>Bridgehead houses less than 50k humans by the time TWoW rolls around
I think according to lore outside the movies Hell's Gate only had 2.500 people in it. The human presence on pandora is just a tiny foothold. A ... bridgehead, if you want.

I'm not a huge fan of how Cameron decided to depict the humans as this unstoppable horde in the movies. And how autonomos he made them. Apparently the RDA grunts on Pandora live in a post-scarcity paradiese where robots and 3D printers can just create everything. This clashes with the supposed poverty and ressource hunger on earth, and it makes the RDA way too powerful on Pandora. It would be way more interesting if Hell's Gate and Bridgehead were precarious forts that depended on earth supply and cooperation with na'vi like the mankwan. But I guess that's not the story cameron wants to tell ...
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>>217210868
I too got that impression. And really, it seemed the same way in TWOW. They seem to only have that small fleet and can't actually get a sizable number of people out into space. So the used up Earth is just crumbling. But everyone in the movies now act like it's not that big of a deal and like they have a huge support force just out of site. Kinda ruins the perception of the humans and their plight
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>>217210868
>I think according to lore outside the movies
I just looked at TWoW's artbook, and there's a pic showing Bridgehead's construction with a sign saying something along the lines of "Welcome to this piece of shit, we have 42 thousand and something people". That's why i made the post



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