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Has anything even really happened in 4 episodes this season? It's like 95% filler. All the main points can be condensed into like 10 minutes.
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What’s her SPECIAL?
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ST: 1
PE: 1
EN: 1
CH: 1
IN: 1
AG: 1
LK: 10
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>>217207231
Her special is meant to be high in every attribute but charisma.
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>>217206786
I want to watch this but the main character is a female.
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>>217208848
But she cute.
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>>217208848
There's like 4 main characters
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>>217206786
They have a general thread for this but you got a ton of lore and character stuff, introduced several factions, had a big reveal in 4th episode. Just try to cut loose and enjoy things because first your grandpa dies, than your father, than you.
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>>217208848
holy based
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>Has that white snowbunny slut fucked the African BBC BVLL yet?
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>>217209650
Haha yeah fucking jeets trying to ruin my interracial romance story where all whites are evil incestuous retards and brown lesbian communists are good
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>>217209650
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>brazil
fucking kek nice self own pablo!!!
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>>217206786
wut every other scene is a major happening lol
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>>217206786
>>217209870
One of these two is lacking in media literacy...
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Had the Chinese won in Alaska, the world could still exist. Let that sink in
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>>217210041
Had all capitalist pigs faced the wall, the world could still exist.
According to the show lore
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>>217209532
The actor's wife is Icelandic
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>>217206786
It's a "remember this, it's broken and terrible now" playlist of things from New Vegas.
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>>217209622
Its not its gay
>I need white man to talk to me in gritty voice to feel all commanded too and father figure is in show
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>>217206786
been watching it weekly with friends and couldnt tell you one single plot beat from this season.
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I just realized something even stronger than the Deathclaw is going to beat it to save the protags.
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>>217206786
I found the pro commie anti McCarthy shit in the first season revolting. Is this more of the same?
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>>217208684
You’d think Perception would be higher with those gigantic buggin-out frog eyes.
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>>217209835
Oh snap
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I liked s1 despite all the gay bullshit but s2 is so fucking bad bros
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>>217210845
Yes. If you're an insane capitalist it might be too much for you to handle.
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why did they neuter every faction if they want to make homage to new vegas? the most interesting part of the game was every faction vying for power. also why did they make the BoS no different from the enclave?
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>>217210454
It really does feel like they’re making shit up week by week with no overarching story. My wife asked me what Ghoulgins’ motivation was for shepherding frog eye girl and I had to admit I didn’t know.
It genuinely seems to me that the only common driving impetus for the show is the destruction of F:NV lore.
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>>217210943
It’s the exact opposite to a homage to New Vegas though.
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>>217210845
>commie
stop using that slur, get with the times old man
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>>217206786
>destroyed the Legion
>destroyed the NCR
>destroyed the Kings
>hype up the BoS
It's just Todd destroying the West, ironically
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>>217210901
>We’re Vault-Tec
>We make money selling Vaults
>Our revenues are down
>We need to sell more vaults
>So let’s start a nuclear war that will make money useless and prevent the ability to build and sell vaults
That’s how you know the show has been written by deranged socialist shitlibs. We’ll leave aside the fact that these same shitlibs are working for one of the most evil megacorporations since the British East India Company.
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>>217210891
it feels like ep 9-12 of season 1, I don't know what you haters are on about, its exactly same and its good. Shitting in NV was expected and well deserved.
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>>217210248
That's so hot, Iceland will soon be BLACKED
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>>217210982
“I hate everything about corporatism but I call it capitalism because I don’t actually know what either of those things are.’
Try not to tread on your own dick in the rush to virtue signal, you infant.
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>>217211097
stay there old man I'm out of free time on my minimal wage shift, once I'll be back I'll answer you
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>>217211229
Canada isn't a capitalist country at all and it has infinitely more Indians than any western nation
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>>217210955
>My wife asked me what Ghoulgins’ motivation was for shepherding frog eye girl and I had to admit I didn’t know.
Use her as leverage so her Dad tells him where his kid is at
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anyone who unironically uses the term "filler' is a retard, unless it's in its actual intended purpose (parts made up as the show caught up with the source material, like game of thrones or dragonball)

this particular show is lame, but in general, just because a show doesn't have constant plot moving forward/action doesn't mean it's worthless
learn some patience
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>>217207231
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>>217206786
why didnt they go straight to Vegas like NV does? Much more interesting stuff can happen there than generic cowboy tough talk and Mac and Me mary sue looking confused
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>>217208684
clearly has at least 5 per, cause bug eyes
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I haven't played the games but I don't know or care what's going on with the brotherhood storyline
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>>217211633
The brotherhood stuff is very bizarre
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>>217206786
Yep, bugeye girl gets captured by roman army and they string her up to die for annoying them, but they DON’T take turns gangraping her tight little bootyhole for several days first. Because this is a FANTASY.
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>>217211609
>Gllrrshk phrrk aghhh krrtch blrhh
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My favorite part is when the BoS leaves the mcguffin everyone is fighting and willing to kill over completely unguarded. The only reason one of the other chapters didn't just walk in and take it is because the tranny beat them to it.
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>>217210901
>based Amazon spreading the good word about unchecked capitalism
you are a little rat running on a big wheel and you don't even know it
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>>217206786
>the nigger started a civil war
>ass_shot.webm
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>>217212523
>ass_shot.webm
Which one?
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>>217206786
Too many characters in separate locations and too many flashbacks so far. Who gives a shit whats going on back at the vaults with her brother or hot maple leaf blonde. Showing the bad guy father just fucking around with mind control devices is wasting screentime. We shouldn't know what he is doing until the other characters interact with him or places he has been.
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>>217212564
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I mean, there's only 8 episodes a season and it takes over a year between seasons, unless they ramp it at least a little they're never going to finish the story before Goggins gets tired of wearing that makeup and fucks off to do whatever else
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You guys need to get it in your head that a show that's meant to appeal to a broader audience has to be very easy to grasp to the casual viewer. Factions work in the games because, as you play, you learn through the characters the ideological and philosophical framework that binds them together. And, most importantly, the tangible influence each main faction holds on the wasteland. Example, a cursory glance at the Legion paints them as a hostile group of slavers in football gear obsessed with Old World Roman aesthetic. But they are quite serious and adhere to discipline. They hold territory in most of the South West and it turns out that their trading routes are much safer for commerce than any other caravaneer, including the NCR. They have a reason to exist.

The show decided to cut 80 IQ points for each faction because the story needed it to. A bunch of retards fighting over bullshit makes it easier for the audience to grasp that these groups are falling apart. Lucy can just hop and skip across the Mojave worry free aside for some unimportant raiders like the Great Khans.

Now, this ultimately is fine because it works in the end, but it makes New Vegas out to be a worn down rusted theme park filled with morons swigging beers and hitting each other with sticks.
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>>217206786
What's left of the West Coast has been destroyed, so there is that.
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>>217212804
Retards can watch Breaking Bad and other shit without having to reduce it to slop.
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Lucy will suck cock for Buff
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how are they gonna butcher the burned man
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>>217212916
They make him an atheist and he's addicted to chems
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Total Legion death.
Total Khan death.
Total Brotherhood death.
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>>217212916
A god fearing Christian is anathema to the Hollywood hack writer. They'll never touch him.
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>>217208684
she has charisma because I can watch with a boner
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mfw Lonesome Road nuke both ending is all but canon. A pile of dynamite was the Legion substitute for a nuke.
>>217210041
>>217210089
Had the US not been developing FEV in the first place or responding to China's diplomacy efforts to stop them, they wouldn't have been the ones to nuke first.
>>217207231
In Shelter her stats are
S 4
P 7
E 6
C 5
I 6
A 5
L 7
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>>217210982
He’s not American. I can tell by some syntax and I have burgered many hams in my day.
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so what made the writers want to kill the ncr, kill the legion, make vegas a ruin, and make the kings into ghouls?
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>>217213225
Fuckin why do you think, pal?
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>>217210891
I concur, S1 made my teeth hurt a bit but it was okay overall, this is plain fucking boring and stupid at times
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>>217211015
I actually think all the factions are “destroyed” to scale down production. The show doesn’t have a huge budget, so they can only afford at most a dozen people on screen at a time, but most of the time it’s a handful of people.
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>>217213334
It's on its second season and is wildly popular and still looks like a low budget piece of shit. Seems nearly every amazon prime and netflix show is like this.
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>>217206786
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I wanted to get my gf into fallout with this but that has failed. Same with the witcher. Tried stranger things last but she hates the negro kid, the weird mutt, the fag, really she hated every character there.
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>>217206786
>everywhere else: Pretty good show.
>vidya cesspools: DURR IS NOT LIKE MUH VIDYE GAMEZ BLUHURRRRR

God DAMN shut the FUCK up, nobody cares about you, you fucking disappointments to your mothers.
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The Brotherhood story has had so much stuff happen it's felt rushed
Nothing of note has happened in Lucy's story
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>>217213579
The Brotherhood are fuckin retards and their stupid voice octave modulation effect is a boring cliche.

I'm glad they're setting them up to die.
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>>217213538
AIE not the caps lockk it's too scary
but also they're plastering the show with refs to a very specific game to get that crowd so it's what they get trying to lure in deranged fans
then I type FUCK in caps to fit in
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>>217210943
>>217210955
>>217210975
>>217211015
Do not mistake neutering as a homage, it's more like a burial. You see, this is all according to great Todd's plan: remove all major, established civilization centers in the lore. Reason being, Bethesda wants to do another "shoot the nameless raiders in ruined world" type of game. Why bother with complex story and world building when you just gotta provide some ruins and heads to shoot at. Civilization in fallout setting is just asking for a good writer and Bethesda doesn't have them.

For me, it would be much more interesting to see what shady sands have become, how they've adapted the old tech and culture. Spice things up with New Vegas and the NCR - House dynamics get interesting.

Instead Shady Sands is now a boring crater, and New Vegas seems to be another dungeon with ghouls and Deathclaw as a boss. This sucks, show itself is fine, but the lore is fucking ruined.

Oh I forgot BoS is effectively gone too, they will devolve into civil war and probably most of their influence will be gone. F5 will have 16 times the detail, but will be 16 times less interesting. I swear if I will have to go out into the wasteland because my 3rd line cousin sperged out and went looking for prime super mutant pussy, I will just lose interest in series and will resort to playing Russian Fallout 2 mods forever.
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>>217212804
Trying to please everyone ends up pleasing no one. This has been proven over and over
>fans: the changes suck
>non-fans: this is stupid
>people who’ve already decided they don’t like franchise: fuck off
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>>217213579
>nothing of note has happened in Lucy's story
if anything there hasn't been enough low stakes "nothing" scenes. the show already plays out like browsing a wiki of major timeline events, and you autists want more. Can you not understand that a huge part of fallout is the moment to moment adventure and atmosphere?
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we need another 45 minutes of Hank blowing up heads to get the point he is working on a device which controls minds
We need another 45 minutes of Lucy killing ghouls/raiders to get the point she is bad ass
We need another 45 minutes of BoS acting like brotards to solidify Emil's version of FO and shit on Interplay and Obsidian
We need another 45 minutes of memberberries to le hecking heckerino just like in teh vidya so I can post a le epic quote on reddit for updoots! xD
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>A FUCKING LEAF
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>>217206786
>uses a word wrong
This is an engagement bot
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1. Nuke all the city locations so that there’s no side characters or extra background direction needed.

2. Give MC a meme catchphrase so no attempt at genuine dialogue is needed.

What the fuck was even the point of trying this show besides jingling keys for fans?
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>>217206786
too many storylines and the forced "comedic" moments are way too frequent
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>>217214634
There really aren't that many storylines.
>Vault plot
>Maximus plot
>Ghoul plot
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Is Lucy's new addiction to some kind of power-up in the games? That ghoul massacre seemed a little beyond her normal capability.
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>>217213091
They will just make it so he went back to being a psycho and didn’t learn moderation and restraint. Probably make him discount Kurtz too.
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>>217214494
>a fucking leaf
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>>217208848
the ghoul is the main character
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>>217209532
>Dark hair
>Black eyes
>Swarthy skin
Ah yes, "snow"bunny
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>>217211097
kek bodied that communist freak
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>>217214792
Yes, Buffout is a fast-acting anabolic steroid, it boosts strength, HP and endurance, I guess it's not unusual steroid users to get more impatient and confident bc of high T but she seemed kinda twitchy to me
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this was so bad bros but I cant stop watching since im a fucking masochist
cant get over the fact the vaulties found food that hasnt been looted in 200+ years a la fallout 4
bravo Todd
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>>217206786
>The Kings are all feral ghouls
>New Vegas is abandoned
>Death Claws aren't mutants and were made by the army pre-war
I'm out, this is fucking retarded.
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>>217215515
Bro they're eating Blamco Mac and Cheese just like the video game!!
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>>217206786
Why is it so mindblowing to nerds that things can just be inspired by other things? There was no message in the marketing that said "come watch the most perfect copy of a videogame ever". These guys are using Fallout and spinning up their own take its a take on Fallout not a literal copy of Fallout. If they kill everyone and then make something entirely new next season its up to them to make it good.
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>>217215783
Well they've killed everyone and haven't made anything good of it so far
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>>217215783
If they want their own take, why not start with new shit? Instead it's full of video game reference and locations done in a shit way. Might as well say the Halo TV show was good too while you're at it.
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>>217215694
>>Death Claws aren't mutants and were made by the army pre-war
This is from Fallout 2, though.
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>>217215694
>The Kings are all feral ghouls
The one actually goofy fun thing they could've had in New Vegas and they squander it. What a waste.
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>>217215783
Fuck off you fucking Amazon shill faggot nigger
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>>217206786
Are we supposed to take Dane seriously as a "man"? She looks like a teenage girl pretending to be a teenage boy.

>>217211346
>Canada isn't a capitalist country
Lying jew.
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>>217215783
Do you understand how dogshit pop culture is that there is a big budget fallout tv show?
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>>217215884
you mean the one line in the strategy book which also claimed the master further mutated the old experiments with FEV himself, when they never helped the unity and even preyed on super mutants sometimes
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>>217215989
Yeah zero shot she can hang with big ass men as a soldier. Even with T she's still short and scrawny as a teen girl.
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>>217216076
Yes.
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>>217216141
So only dubious out of game info and not Fallout 2, gotcha
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>>217216218
Written by the lead designer. You don't have to like it, anon, but it that doesn't make it a new idea.
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Didn't see that there's already a Fallout thread.

Why is there a Warhammer character in my Fallout show? Why is he screaming about heresy?
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>>217216316
Also, why wasn't a single paladin defending the most important object in the entirety of the world? How was the tranny allowed to steal it?
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it's literally just a theme park.

>REMEMBER THIS PART FROM NEW VEGAS?!!? HERE'S A VIGNETTE THAT RETROACTIVELY RUINS IT!!!
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>>217216398
It's also been made to look as small as it did in-game too while LA was basically lifesize.
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>>217216341
Because the writers just wanted to get that part of the story over with.
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>>217216341
That was fucking retarded. I'm not usually the type of person to complain about plot holes or things being unrealistic in a show like this, but just from a writing perspective having a character steal the macguffin without any resistance or security is awful
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>>217216855
I'm not even surprised. I think I'm done with the show, it's too fucking retarded and dragged out the NV reveal with filler. I'm just going to miss the generals.
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>>217208824
fair because charisma is a dump stat (except in 4)
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>>217216923
I'll keep watching because I want to see what happens with the main vault-tec storyline, but this weeks episode was easily the worst so far. Any amount of story is totally being dragged out in favor of game references and quippy humor. There's almost no seriousness or stakes to the story to balance it out, it feels like a porn parody without the sex.
>>217216453
Making the sets so accurate to the game was a weird choice. I always imagined that the cities/settlements as seen in the games were meant to be representative of places that would be much larger, but due to engine/development limitations or game design decisions were "shrunk" down into small areas with a few relevant NPCs.
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>>217206786
this show is just a references shitshow so basedboys can look at things and say "i know that thing" and make a basedface
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I really hated the homage to The Good the Bad and the Ugly in the opening scene of S2E. I get that it's in Lucy's character to do what she did, but I didn't like how ridiculous it was. I've never played the games though. Was it canon?
>>217206786
A story is more than just main points. Or do you just read Cliffnotes?
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>>217214796
>Probably make him discount Kurtz
Funny thing is that Kurtz is a character that would fit into Fallout perfectly well. Hell, I think some variation of him already exists in Ulysses or Ceaser.

But Todd wants a circus, and that he have.
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>>217217151
>S2E1
I guess asking if it's canon doesn't make sense for an RPG. I guess I should ask, can you do something like this in the games?
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>>217216923
The storyline with the dad piqued my interest.
Same with Lucy getting addicted to chems and the skinny guy leading the vault tech crew out.

I couldn't care less about the black BoS guy or the 31/32/33 story and the "I member" parts they keep putting in like the bomb guy repeating the nuclear winter line.

I still stand by my statement that a Fallout done somewhere else not covered by the games would have been great.
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>>217217176
no, Dinky is even facing the wrong way, it's supposed to look over the highway as a sniper nest.
the motel didn't even have a pool in the game.
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>>217208684
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PE: 1
EN: 1
CH: 10
IN: 1
AG: 1
LK: 10
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>>217217360
>CH: 10
but she literally fails every speech check
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>>217213532
Your girlfriend sounds based.
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>>217217056
>Making the sets so accurate to the game was a weird choice. I always imagined that the cities/settlements as seen in the games were meant to be representative of places that would be much larger, but due to engine/development limitations or game design decisions were "shrunk" down into small areas with a few relevant NPCs.
That's because they are, it's a suspension of disbelief. By making maps and areas in games a manageable size, it means the details and story won't be spread too thin. It's why some games that have really large maps feel empty and boring. So them having LA being as it would be in reality and then New Vegas being a 1:1 of the tiny game version is extremely jarring.

>>217217251
Yeah the plot with the dad is the only thing that was keeping my interest but I don't think he was even seen in the last episode or the one before it.

>I still stand by my statement that a Fallout done somewhere else not covered by the games would have been great.
100%. Either be faithful to the old stuff or be original with something new.
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The BoS civil war has to be the dumbest shit written for television.
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>>217217577
I've skipped every BoS scene this season so I have no idea what they're doing. It also seems completely irrelevant from the main arc since nothing about them has come up once with bug eye girl kek.
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>>217217577
Seems like the writers didn't give a fuck about creating any interesting conflict there so they just made every BoS subfaction retarded for laughs. It only serves as a vehicle to give Maximus the cold fusion macguffin and a reason to be running around solo
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>>217213334
The lack of people is weird considering it wasn't an issue in season 1, and they put noticeable effort into making recognizable locations 1:1 for very little payoff when there's no life in them.
The season 2 writers seem to lack object permanence, because nothing seems to happen offscreen, not even conversation between Lucy and Ghoul on the 250 mile walk from LA to Vegas.
If they were trying to save money (let alobe time), why not just reference the route they took, with offscreen adventures? Even a bit of montage in recognizable places would have gone a long way, instead of scenes in the empty sets without much importance. It reminds me of the Game of Thrones behind the scenes where they built Winterfell and Kings Landing towns but never filmed in them.

About the only real cheaping out is when you can tell it's not the Mojave because of all the vegetation.
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>>217216316
They only had a handful of scripts to go around. Most of the cast and crew didn't receive a copy, but this guy found a first draft in the dumpster behind the warhammer show's writer's room
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Interesting story that obsidian came out in 18 months (admittedly some of it is from Van Buren)
>The whole Hoover dam debacle
>A bunch of convicts taking over a prison by using dynamite
>Some radioactive zombies took over a rocket launch site, spooking the nearby town, also there's some schizo ogres trying to look for some invisibility drugs there
>A town full of degenerates gets destroyed, you met the people who did this and have to spread the message
>A bunch of elvis impersonator gets into a fight with a bunch of Republicans, on the way you help do brain surgery for a dog and can uncover a conspiracy from some laser gun dealer and logistics company and help a caravaneer out
>You have to go to a mountain ski lodge and help them shoo off mercenaries hired by Republicans and help them cure their ogre schizophrenia, you can also recruit one of those ogres whose a sweet grandma but has a murderous split personality
>You can follow some strange radio signal to go to some casino with poison air and kill some technology obsessed guy and help some people move on with their life
>You can join some caravan that gets ambushed by some tribals and help other tribals and Christians by killing the evil tribals or evacuating and also help some guy who was a Roman general from his bloodlust
>You get transported into some weird science facility where you have to get back your brain and deal with some scientist in brain jars
>You met up some guy who you pissed off by setting up nukes and turning his hometown into a place with radiation zombies and also molemans, you also uncover the past of your robo buddy and have philosophical discussion with this guy who talks very slow
>The town you fight over with is ran by some old dude and he appoints some tribals, some of them wants to eat people again or join the skirt wearing Roman costumers or hire some performers for their show

And I can go on and on about new Vegas, meanwhile I don't even know where the fuck the show is heading.
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>>217215351
that's pretty crazy that those ncr people would push that stuff on her
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>>217217908
It's almost worse than the Halo show at this point.
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>>217217970
It's a medicine, they used it correctly.
Getting addicted is clearly a "reference" to the in-game mechanic having a random chance of addiction even if you don't spam chems. But in-universe, it's doubtful that buffout is so addictive as to cause a dependency within two days, to a first-time user who was unconscious on a drip.
Withdrawal or comedown symptoms maybe, but I think technically that's not the same as an addiction
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The only complaint I have about this season is that we haven't seen the chicken fucker.
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This show is pure shit, but the bar of quality is so low that it’s considered watchable. It’s quintessential goy slop.
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>>217218252
I think the watchability is heavily decreasing per episode though. I'm only going to both with one more before completely bailing.
I also don't see any hype or discussion online for it either, there's barely any spam advertising.

The low budget compared to Lord Of Rangz also implies Amazon don't feel as strongly about it.
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>>217218295
That tends to happen when you take an entire game’s worth of world building that everyone agrees is at least essentially interesting and destroy every aspect of it. It’s like taking the Star Wars universe and going “lol everyone is dead and the Force doesn’t work anymore, also everyone lost the ability to travel in space.” The point of this series this season seems to be to take a cynical walk through the ruins of an enjoyable story. It’s infantile.
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If Lucy is a drug addict now it will not be long until she turns to stripping or prostitution.
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>>217213748
What would even be the point of fallout 5 then? Fuck questing and being a warrior wasteland because the NCR sanitized everything and there’s one on patrol every or so mile. You don’t want to admit the alternative would be just as much as a boring void.
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>>217206786
Season one was pretty meh and forgettable. Another mystery box show that will ultimately go nowhere.
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>>217208684
Agility is at least 6-7 after episode 4 of season 2
She fucked the Kings up
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>>217213225
Todd is wiping the slate clean so he can rebuild the west coast in HIS image. No more lore, no more history, no more "complications".
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>>217218701
Is that, legal?
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>>217218380
Won't be long now
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>>217218701
People keep saying this, but the real problem is just that the writers are being overly careful about not choosing a canon ending or changing existing lore. We're left with this weird empty world because they don't want to make any decisions
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>>217210828
>something stronger
The power of friendship?
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>>217207231
Being my girlfriend!!!!
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>>217212804
This is the ongoing problem I have with adaptations in general. 10 years ago I wanted every good book or game I came across turned into a movie, now I feel the exact opposite. Just enjoy the thing as it is, no need for any adaptation. Ultimately it won’t be what you want at best, and worst it will be utterly destroyed by pink haired trannies that hate you and the thing you love.
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>>217206786
>show has no plot
>big brain anon figures this out 12 hours in
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is the second season still just [old timey nostalgia song] played over [goofy set piece]?
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>>217212804
If that's the case why the show feels so fucking boring and hollow, than bravo Todd. There aren’t that many stakes or much worry for Lucy and co., who can just pounce around the wasteland since everyone has a collective INT of 2. Personally, they could've used the show as a vehicle to show any other part of America or any other part of the world I guess, instead of just returning to the West coast again, and literally just crushing memberries in our faces
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>>217215783
midwit
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>>217218295
It’s shilled here all day every day
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>>217219831
that's still there constantly yes, but at the same time the show is suddenly taking itself a lot more seriously
everyone is still a retard with quirk-chungus quips, but they're also extremely dramatic and serious about it when the show decides they need to be

it's tonally all over the place moreso than the 1st season
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>>217212987
>a trans atheist addicted to chems
Fixed
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>>217215008
Swarthy?
Jfc, how was the 1960s great grandpa?
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>>217218416
You don't need to reset every faction for their still to be a wild wasteland. For starters there is an entire fucking country, hell planet, to set a Fallout game in. Nobody is asking nor expecting the factions to magically control an entire region or country over night, but reducing factions like the NCR or New Vegas to an absolute shell is not the answer either. We've been fucking around on the west coast for years, a little bit of civilization/stability for the sake of continued world building isn't asking for much.
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>>217206786
It’s like that part in the game where you stop following the main quest and just wander around for a while
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Show kinda sucks dick, jumping from character to character to flashbacks etc, what the fuck is this designed for, is the next season going to have fucking minecraft and roblox vids on the 2nd half of the screen?
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>>217206786
>Ella Eyeballz wants to dickride you into the sunset.
>too bad its scifi, so instead
>durhurrr i dont do that stuff, but i hurd if u use my cock white stuff comes out
>ok then nevermind forever you fuckin freak

This embarrassing sliver of sexually immature american infantilism and resulting boring disappointment brought to you by Typical Sex Scenes in Sci-fi, the show that’ll never make its developmentally stunted viewer base feel inadequate.
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>not even bothering to make house seem like the most sane out of all the other factions
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Test audience research:
I think ghoul-lucy romance should be explored as a plot line
1) Strongly agree
2) Agree
3) Neither
4) Disagree
5) Edit the scenes out ASAP
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>>217211454
Thinks she's Chitsa.

And no way is Lucy's Speech at 65% - she's failed every Speech check so far on the show.
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>>217220719
If the leak is true that the ghoul is courier 6 then I think a Lucy-Ghoul relationship would be based.
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>>217220719
it's an indictment on any series when will they-won't they romance plays any role in the narrative, indicating it is a show directed at females
also, finales or any "climax" moment being 2 people getting together, kissing, marriage, pregnancy, etc
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>>217214494
What's scarier there do you think? That his wife unit is irredeemably CANADIAN or that she was born over 200 years ago?
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>>217220854
I just want to see that nice round booty getting plunged, railed & pounded by SOMEBODY already. Even the dog would be fine.
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>>217220854
Since when does some reddit engagement bait count as a fucking leak?
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>>217220911
oh that's a sep future research assignment...not dog fucking but about dogmeat dying and when because he apparently dies pretty easy in the games
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>>217220934
look if you dont think /tv/ influences writing on the fly then i don't know what to tell you.
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>>217220911
Thatd make more sense, shes been wandering the wasteland for years by now & what, never gets horny? Ppl are either nonexistent or psychos. Eventually a girl needs a reliable source for dick injection without all kinds of drama. Most convenient bet is down on all fours getting mounted & pumped full of meat & cream til satisfied, then immediately have ur good traveling companion again.
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>>217220829
Lucy is definitely high C with low speech skill.
Charisma is as much looks as anything else and she's a 10 by post-apocalyptic wasteland standards.

Her int might actually be closer to a 4 than a 7 because even though her medicine skill is good that can be leveled up independently from int.
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Atleast they can't rape Frank Horrigan.
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>>217220719
yes yes yes. but he should be cured from ghoulification
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oh no. this is becoming another one of those threads where ill enter every single one of them, talk, discuss, argue, all that every single day without actually watching the show. ill just pretend ive watched it like a lot of the other threads i enter every single day
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>>217222489
I remember you from the severance threads
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Is the tranny supposed to be a tranny or what’s the deal there? I think maybe it was explained in season 1 but it was so long ago that I forgot
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>>217222929
I think they're just supposed to be a straight-up dude and they just cast a tranny for points
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>>217207231
what the fuck is wrong with this lady
did they pick a deformed woman on purpose like they did in the last of us show?
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>>217222966
she just has big ol cute eyeballs
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>>217222929
It's a woman larping as a man aka a ftm tranny
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>>217222913
oh no thats probably an actual other anon, but same idea, i guess
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>>217223050
right, but it wasn’t explained in the plot or anything was it? We’re just supposed to pretend it’s a guy? I thought maybe I forgot about a plot where she’s a girl pretending to be a man like furiousa or something
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>>217211015
Based Legate Toddius
>We shall see how brave you are when nailed to the walls of Hoover Dam, your body facing west so you may watch your world die.
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>>217206786
>WHY AREN'T THINGS HABBENING
literally every general
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>>217223050
yeah but not in the actual show
that character is never treated as anything but just another one of the men, I'm pretty sure that was the whole gimmick
>we'll cast a FTM as a Male and that'll be really groundbreaking and we'll act like nobody can tell
but everyone can tell

but in-universe that character is just a man
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>>217208848
Sensitive little fella aren't ya
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>>217213748
>Why bother with complex story and world building when you just gotta provide some ruins and heads to shoot at. Civilization in fallout setting is just asking for a good writer and Bethesda doesn't have them.
Lets quote the main Fallout writer at Bethesda
>"And you're gonna give this book (often omitted "this great American novel") to the player and what are they gonna do with it? They are gonna rip out every page and make paper airplanes out of them. And they are gonna throw them around. And they are never gonna see your story."
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Even if you're not a classic fallout fan, and aren't pissed about the destruction of the West Coast so the next Fallout game can be the San Francisco which has been rumoured from sources for a while now, you still have to admit the writing on this show is fucking dreadful. The characters are all retarded, the factions are literally retarded and don't act like themselves, everything is just a parody theme park, the dialogue is Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel tier.
The show sucks, Season 1 was okay but this season is as bad if not worse than NuTrek.
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>>217223719
Oh hell yeah, no disputes there. The only thing keeping it afloat is New Vegas and they've even managed fumble that so this might be a serious drop off point for a lot of people that actually did give a shit.
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>>217223719
well the problem is it's just boring
every place they go is just abandoned
they're wasting entire factions and things that people actually might have found interesting just to have 2 people wander through an abandoned film set going "woah...it's empty..."

even if you're going to butcher the lore, why would waste something like The Kings on a quick gag? What, are we just not having fun with this show? Was there a strict mandate of no actual content or things happening allowed?
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>>217223788
>why would waste something like The Kings on a quick gag?
It was also something that could've actually worked with the le quirky style they're going for and they completely wasted it. You also get to see The King (as a feral) for all of 10 seconds. It's fucking shameful how bad the writing is, it truly is just nostalgia bait at this point to just show off what the game would look like IRL.
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>>217223816
it's nostalgia bait but without actually leaning into it
it's pretty clear the writers either don't understand or have contempt for the source material and are falling into the same trap every "Adaptation" team does where they start to think
>look, we COULD do The Kings, but that's somebody else's story y'know?
>we can use this universe to tell OUR story
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>>217223830
alternatively, they worked backwards from
>We want a scene where MC girl is embracing her new drug addiction and shoots up a bunch of mooks
sounds great! who are the mooks?
>Well she's still not a villain or anything the drug addiction is just a joke, so who's funny to shoot?
>What if The Kings are feral ghouls?
>perfect let's move on
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>>217223830
It's just Halo all over again. It seems like they played Fallout 4 at most and just read a wiki article on Fallout NV, as I also noticed a lot of the weapon sounds and other lil bits are from Fallout 4 but not 3 or NV. It feels extremely slow and yet also like they're rushing through the NV stuff.

I know people go on about how shit writing is these days but goddamn. Even normies are noticing it with shit like Stranger Things and are creating theories to try and cope with the writing.
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>>217223870
yeah with HALO it wasn't even the show that did it, the cancer took hold the moment somebody at the top decided it was good idea to explore the idea of:
>Who IS Master Chief really...? Like, as a human, who thinks and feels...can we get to KNOW him?
that shit started in HALO 4 or actually 3 if we're being honest and it was a critical mistake
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>>217223788
I've no doubt it's because Todd and Bethesda are still seething that Obsidian did a better job in 18 months on one game than Bethesda managed with all the time in the world for two games.
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>>217217375
skills are intelligence
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>>217223933
it really does feel like they are just paving over all the old stuff to make room for Commonwealth shit
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>>217223830
>>look, we COULD do The Kings, but that's somebody else's story y'know?
>>we can use this universe to tell OUR story
Oh my fucking god I cannot stand this shit.
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>>217223962
it happens every time dude
they're more than happy to use nostalgia to bait you, but then the switch always comes
>no this isn't a story about Freeside, fuck the Kings lmao they were silly in the games, we're telling a story about LUCY so this is HER MOMENT
>New Vegas? it's EMPTY. A fucking deathclaw took it over, you remember those right? You might also be well-versed enough in the lore to know that Lucy and the Ghoul have exactly a 0.0001% chance of surviving this encounter
>but they will ; )
>don't you wanna know about our new OC Vaults and Maximus?

the only good shit is the Ghoul and it's specifically because he is (accidentally) written as a cynical pushback against the main character (already showing signs of realizing she's the real boss and what HE should aspire to, wow, he needed this young woman to REALLY teach him what matters) (after 200 years)
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>>217214459
I hate Emil so much
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>>217215008
She's not asian? She's fucking something. Like a phillipino or something.
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>>217223830
>>217223962
It's what they're doing, no question. It seems to be what every one of these adaptions does. Halo did it, Resident Evil did it and now Fallout is doing it. Every fucking time it's that they didn't look at the source material or wanted to make it their own by retconning everything or just paving over it.

IMDB also mean jackshit since Halo was pulling in almost the exact same ratings and still got shitcanned after season 2 and even had a few episodes rated even higher than Fallout.
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>>217220892
Chet would say not my wife
But That he's dealing with a woman that's has the Black Widow trait
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>>217220854
How could Courier 6 be a pre-war actor and a ghoul?
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>>217224083
did you miss where the timeline already makes it so that new vegas as we know it could never have actually happened?
we're way outside of the actual canon now
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>>217224083
It's OUR story, chud :)
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>>217224083
If that turns out to be true you WILL hear people using this excuse:
>The Courier never had a defined backstory : )
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>>217224128
>House's backstory doesn't mention a wife, so maybe he was gay :)
Guarantee this is coming or at least will to his brother
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>>217224128
>people
redditor slop consumers aren't people
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>>217224167
Anon, House is based on Howard Hughes. Who was gay. Who was his gay boyfriend? Gay. Fucking. Cooper.
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>>217224248
oh so we suddenly have respect for the source material when it justifies a character becoming homosexual
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>>217224248
Was he? He seemed disgusted with guys and pretty much stalked the women he was interested in. You sure you're thinking of the right person?
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>>217224248
House had a personal robo-waifu (female) and was a notorious playboy
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>>217224248
My man, he had a wife and multiple girlfriends at all times and was known to obsess over them. He even took over a hotel in LA for a while and lived with just his wife and multiple girlfriends for over a year in there.
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>>217224274
Anon, I'm just saying the writers are doing this. Cooper.
>>217224280
They were together for like three years

Also is nobody going to post that Sopranos clip, really? You disappoint me.
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>>217223719
>worse than NuTrek.
Nothing is worse than nutrek. There didn't need to be a fallout show.
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>>217224589
there didn't, but the tragedy is that with this kind of budget behind it we could have gotten something great if the people working on it actually cared about what they were adapting
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>>217213091
He most likely passed away from hid burnt injuries along with being old, he was roughly in his late 50s to early 60s seeing how old caesar was in NV

I don't believe they will touch him as it would include the tribals and that brings the native americans into the picture that will claim how the white man has once again done them wrong again (even if the tribes in fallout are more of a mixed race of white, hispanic and native)

But if they ever bring him, hopefully it be some background image of his paintings or just reference in some conversation

Also he could be a saint for we all know if the new canaanites show up
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>>217207231
>What's her SPECIAL
needs
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How in fuck does the West Coast Brotherhood have fucking airships and fuckloads of power armour?
The Brotherhood were driven into isolated cells hiding in holes in the ground by the NCR after the Brotherhood war.
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>>217224817
yeah he's far to the north far away from where the show is taking place
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>>217224871
it doesn't make sense, they're just retconning the brotherhood
there shouldn't be west-coast airships at all
the commonwealth shouldn't be here at all
they are bulldozing old lore to comply with Fallout 4's New Standard of "what Fallout is"
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Love reading the reddit discussion for this show and the obvious bot comments
"I've been a fallout fan forever, and played through 1, 2 and New Vegas and this show is really on point with how those games feel"
This is just nonsensical, maybe a hot take, but as someone who has played through FO1/2 (+1.5/Nevada/Sonora) multiple times, even New Vegas is nowhere near the tone of Classic Fallout. Classic Fallout is far more grim, industrial, neo-gothic setting than how the series shifted in Fallout 3. You can tell from the architecture and tone, that Pre-War Fallout in Classic Fallout looked far more like the hyper gothic art deco Gotham City in Batman 89 than a super colourful hunky dory, 1950s world. By the end of Fallout 2, yes there are major countries like NCR, much of humanity seems to live as isolated tribals, something you would see in the Amazon or that Island where they throw spears at Helicopters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_rii4KE4pQ
Listen to Fallout 2 music, it's industrial mashed with tribal chants and bongos and stuff like that.
There is none of that in New Vegas, New Vegas was basically a compromise of Fallout 1/2s geopolitics, but with 3's wacky theme park comedic tone.
So every time I hear "The TV show (and Fallout 3/4) are 100% in the tone of the original games" I know that person has never actually played Fallout 1/2 because even NV is not in the tone of Fallout 1/2
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>>217225059
fallout is about goofy songs about radiation playing over action scenes where you shoot teddy bears at comical goons
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>>217224646
>but the tragedy is that with this kind of budget behind it we could have gotten something great if the people working on it actually cared about what they were adapting
Possibly but the thing is fallout is very derivative, it works for a videogame where you can do things you can't on a tv show. When made as a tv show it's a copy of a copy of a copy, that's part of the reason why the show sucks so much more.
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>>217225442
I disagree, I think it lends itself to adaptation better than almost any other game
Every sidequest in New Vegas is a potential self-contained episode
the problem is lack of vision and writers and showrunners who have agendas and are not actual fans of the material
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>>217216316
writers don't really know what to do with BoS since their ideology has been inconsistent in every game, so the TV shows writers just turned them into Jarhead Space Marines from 40k
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>>217217657
>the writers didn't give a fuck about creating any interesting conflict there so they just made every BoS subfaction retarded for laughs.
Didn't the head writer of the show say in an interview for season 1
> Why write interesting characters when they can be stupid.
It's a rather revealing comment
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>>217219562
That is a very Bethesda decision when it comes to continuity of previous games
Like Daggerfall where all the endings are canon because reality itself broke dow,n but Fallout doesn't have that excuse to it just comes across as lazy on Bethesda's part
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>>217225456
I'm not saying it couldn't work, just that a fallout tv series backed by big money on what are derivative ideas would only be made a certain way.

>showrunners who have agendas
I mean, we're in an era where there's no middle ground anymore and I don't mean that in a radical centrist way, so you end up with dumb incongruous shit like a blatant girl playing a man.
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>>217225873
it's just like video games themselves, individual projects have become so expensive that you can't afford to take risks
but that's the only way kino ever gets made

I would say the writers are cowards, who are not allowing themselves to follow their own instincts, but they're shackled by budget and corporate demands even if they aren't cowards so that's not exactly fair
but there is a problem here where these kinds of AAA "shows" that take 2-3 years to release a new season, then don't do very well, just isn't sustainable
obviously
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>>217206786
Most modern writers were diversity hires trained on reading and writing fanfiction, where you can shit out a bunch of self gratifying purple prose every few months that goes nowhere and people will give you endless praise so long as you include their favorite ships.

Having a tight plot and interesting characters are foreign concepts to these people, so it’s not surprise that most modern shows are complete ass.
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>>217224248
>Hughes. Who was gay
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>>217226021
>self gratifying purple prose every few months
don't think you've ever read fanfiction before
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>>217226287
who the fuck does?
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>>217225059
Tell that goof over on Reddit that in Fallout 2, you can blow up a latrine in Modoc and cover the town in shit. Plus there's numerous Doctor Who references and the chance to go back in time.

He doesn't know what he's babbling about. FO1 definitely was more consistent in later entries when it came to tone but that doesn't mean it lean into the campy scifi tropes for a bit of fun.
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>>217225059
>There is none of that in New Vegas

Except it features ambient music straight out of Fallout 1 and 2 you dumbfuck.
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>>217221134
>She's been wandering the waste for years by now.
Why do people who don't ever watch a show feel the need to comment as if they do? It's such a universal and retarded phenomenon.
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>>217222966
This is what anime eyes would look like IRL.
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>>217214494
>>217214976
Reminder Canada has won a war against the US.
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>>217226458
Fucking finally, thank you!
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>>217224817
Not having any tribals anywhere in Nevada is another reason this show is garbage. The showrunners simply don't understand the IP
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>>217213334
>Budget
Bro the setting literally has the perfect excuse to have "bottle episodes" with vault storylines.
They can reuse the same corridors over and over again, switching signs and labels to focus on some actual interesting shit.
Instead they focus on nothing but the most retarded fucking conflicts with everyone acting like the most belligerent retards
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>>217215351
She used guns in those scenes right? Why would they use buffout instead of Jet?
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>>217227407
Because they don't care
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>>217213334
they had shitloads of extras in the last episode i think the budget must be good and the work on the props, costumes in fact heaps of stuff is impressive ..this is easily the best show on tv rn
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>>217224248
>"Be lesbians with me Howard! Be secret powerful lebensraums with me!"
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>>217227223
Bethesda doesn't like Tribals, there's a reason they don't show up in 3,4 and 76.
Point lookouts, Tribals weren't Tribals there were just lobotomized Cultists that Bethesda felt they had to call Tribals for whatever reason.
Even the main game version of New Vages didn't have they only showed up in Honest Hearts
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>>217227223
The Fallout IP is just one big game of chinese telephone.
Now all anybody knows is 50s quirk chungus and brotherhood of steel
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>>217225059
Bethesda doesn't seem to understand that the gee golly 50s aesthetic was only ever present in the advertisements. It wasn't the lived reality of the people of that time, it was the propaganda trying to paper over total global collapse.
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>>217227663
>The Fallout IP is just one big game of chinese telephone.
>Now all anybody knows is 50s quirk chungus and brotherhood of steel

>>217226551
>Plus there's numerous Doctor Who references
>campy scifi tropes

I don't think people realise how much of an Ouroboros modern pop culture has become. Everything is a circular reference now, everything references everything. Not to mention it's also a *degrading* circular reference, like xerox copy of a copy, each copy having less definition than the last.

Like I don't know how popular Doctor Who was in america pre-Eccleston but I'm assuming you'd have to be an actual nerd to know Doctor Who at some kind of depth back in the 90s in the US.
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So who are they shooting next episode
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>>217227618
the families running the strip were just tribals in fancy clothes
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I dont mind the show
it's really stupid and not great, but I know that going in, so it's mostly watchable
I forgot what I came here to say
uhh
Oh yeah the brotherhood is dogshit weird and annoying in this show tho
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>>217209650
Who are you quoting?
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>>217228303
I guarantee if he or Goggins weren't on the show, I wouldn't even be here. If they botched the lore, I wouldn't know about it because it'll be yet another dogshit vidya adaptation
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>the show breaks the lore
who cares, I just view it like someone elses run. I can watch someone else play the game doing the opposite of what I'd do, that has nothing to do with my run. Neither does Lucy's run.
And obviously my run is the canon one so it's irrelevant



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