>Tony I need you to kill journalist and his entire family with a car bomb in the middle of Manhattan before he gives a speech at the UN>this will surely keep any negative attention away from my far away drug empire Was Sosa literally retarded?
criminals are retarded yes
>>217206879Brown people tend to be impulsive and have short-sighted thinking, not considering consequences yes I know this is a fictional character but it is still true
>>217206879They could have blamed that assassination on anyone they wanted like they did with JFK. Instead that guy lived, got to give his speech, and implicated all those guys specifically especially since they found the device
the implication that he couldn't get one of his cocaine workers to do this instead was a bit much.
>>217206879Got a better idea Einstein?
>>217207877Shoot him?
>>217206879Hes the buck broken bitch of the glowies. They almost always are.Hes doing that to send a message to mouthy dogooder politicians who actually want to....HELP AMERICAN CITZENS!!Theyll get the message and fall in line after a public execution by a dastardly Mexican crime lord who will escape justice rather then have his homes bombed and the American military murdering everyone and thing connected to him in brutal public displays of overwhelming savagery and force.
>>217207877Yes. Sosa could have used his money to fund some sort of PR campaign that discredited the journalist, or made himself look like some philanthropist who was getting defamed. Literally anything is better than using direct violence in broad daylight.
Reminder Sosa was basically the protagonist of the movie and was just using Tony to further enrich himself. Tony failing to detonate the bomb marked his downfall as its now likely his empire and all his associates are completely fucked
>>217208847The bomb sends a better message
What's funny is all the people lying in the movie and their actions proving their lie, but they're assumed to be telling the truth even all this time later. Like Sosa was proven trustworthy and a good partner. Frank was proven untrustworthy and a snake. Omar was proven to be a stoolie working with the DEA to bring down small drug dealers
>>217206879It worked last week for the leader of Israel
There's tons of real life cases of this exact thing happening and nobody gives a fuck. As long as there isn't an explicit link that you did it (which there isn't, that why you're having some retard do your dirty work) you're absolutely fine.
>>217209425And it still sends a message to the would-be whistle blowers that the same could happen to them
>>217206879No, I saw two niggers planting the bomb and then running away. Sosa is innocent.
I love Scarface best movie of all time.
>>217206879It's about sending a message
>>217206879the CIA arranged it, they had a green light to do it in public
The two biggest problems in Tony's life were women. His stupid fucking sister that as soon as she got a tiny taste of money became a screaming banshee determined to be used up by every man who looked twice at her and kill herself with drugs. Then his disgusting wife who he knew was no good the first second he met her but was determined to turn a self professed bored, jaded, junkie into a child raising trad housewife. If Tony had left the sister alone to be in a beauty parlor, and found himself a nice young catholic lady from outside Florida, he'd have lived happily ever after.
>>217211849The biggest problem in Tony's life was Tony. Manny was hardcarrying him the entire time.
>>217206879they wanted to make a statement outside the UN. Sosa didnt give a shit about negative attention he just wanted USA to be scared that they cannot control him
>>217206879Why didn't he just say that he was a nazi or in the "Hollywood" files?
>>217208847Violence is the ultimate authority.
Was it really necessary for him to call Tony a "fucking little monkey"?
>>217211849>WOMEN LITERALLY CONTROL ME AND MY ENDLESS APPETITE FOR MONEY POWER AND COCAINE IS THEIR FAULT you’re a very weak person
>>217207459Sosa is white aristocracy
>>217212292Ask Escobar how that worked out for him
>>217208930>some guy said something at the UNOk so who cares?
>>217207845it was also a loyalty/competency test for tony
>>217206879Plans like these seem brilliant when you're high on cocainum.
>>217213278He would've survived if he had used more violence.
>>217213987He bombed an airliner and killed a hundred civilians, retard. How much violence is required to go to war with the US military?
>>217214088Should've taken out 100 airliners and millions of people.
>>217212292spoken like a true crackhead
The point was to send a message to other potential potential journalists who’d do the sameAnd any politicians who seriously considered pushing something to stop men like sosa.You can say they’d get protection but you can’t protect everybody all the time, and with the amount of money involved it only takes one chink in the armor, one desperate in debt cop or guard to fuck it upKilling the whole family was also probably the plan from the start, sosa just didn’t tell Tony because he knew he’d say no
>I may be a murdering incestuous drug peddling sociopath obsessed with money and power but I ain't gonna hurt no keeds mangretarded trope
>>217206879That shit is dumber than "somehow the palpatine returned"
>>217214150He should have just wished upon a star.
>>217206879Literally why didn't Tony just lie and say the bomb didn't detonate, and the assassin panicked and fled?
>>217215403He didn’t want to fuck his sister.
>>217215517
1932 Scarface is so much better
>>217215506>hey this expertly built bomb didn’t work and this stone cold killer panicked for no apparent reason and just fled gainful employment for a life on the lam
>>217207877Snipe him when he steps out for a smoke?
>>217206879Are you fucking dense? The point wasn't to drive attention away but to scare other journalists off of doing the same. How do you even manage to tie your own shoelaces without killing yourself?
>>217215540It’s pure projection. Just because you want to fuck your sister dosent mean everyone does. Manny was a complete womanizer the entire movie which is why Tony flipped his shot over them. His sister was the only family he had left in his life and he knew his lifestyle was a dead end. He didn’t want to lose her to it. He makes that clear. Stop projecting your perversions.
>>217213278>Loses to someone with more violence
>>217215599>I lecture people about tying shoes while I ignore the countless real world examples of what happens when criminals start killing high profile people beyond their normal sphere of corruption Many such cases. Sad!
>>217215683It must hurt being this fuckdumb. Holy Jesus of Christ.
>>217215624There is obvious incest undertones, which are taken from the 1932 original, and even critics in the 1930s picked up on it
>>217215625>im a disingenuous faggot that pretends to not understand the context of the argument when I lose
>>217215751>ad hominem with no argument I accept your concession
>>217215540She was an icon of innocence in his eyes. He couldnt stand her being sullied or corrupted in any fashion. Watch the scene where she asks if he wants to fuck her. He has a completely wft bewildered look that she would even suggest such a thing.
>>217215776Ok, and? I’m not concerned with the 30s version because I’ve never seen it and this thread isn’t about it anyway. That’s not the discussion at hand. I’m already aware people think he did. My argument still stands. Disagree if you like. Just don’t expect not to be accused of projecting when posting frogs as an argument.
>>217206879>Scarface (1983)Don't you people ever shut the fuck up about immigrant spics and guineas?
>>217215951you're accusing someone of "projecting" when thousands of people who saw Scarface thought the same thing. I don't think you know what "projection" is retard
>>217216025No, literally zero people thought that. You're just making up a bunch of fictional dorks to agree with you. Tony acted like a brother trying to protect his kid sister from predators and users. Your dumb ass focused on one line where a distraught Gina tells a coked up Tony to fuck her because she's suicidal. And is Tony overjoyed and ready to bang? No, he's confused because he doesn't want incest. That's only for degenerates like you.
>>217216025>Thousands of other people Name them. People right here on this board think you’re wrong so I need no citation for them, braindead pigfucker. Stay mad frog poster.
>>217206879Scarface or Carlito's Way?
>>217216745I like Scarface better. Carlito has some good moments but I only ever really enjoy the first half. The love interest isn't as interesting, the criminals are really annoying and lame especially Benny Blanco. Still good though
>>217216745they're totally different movies; scarface is entering the gangster life and carlito's way is about trying to leave it. they work in their own ways
>>217216745Scarface for hilarious lines and terribly great 80’s music. Solid action with an ok plot. Not really to be taken seriously. Carlitos Way is just a damn good movie.
>>217206879>Don't you ever fuck me, TonyWtf? Just say "don't fuck up." Why the homo undertones?
>>217215250Anon. If you think ICE is bad, wait till it becomes open season on anyone speaking any level of Spanish.As for that drug lord, theyll turn his entire city into Iraq 2.0 in a day and eradicate his entire bloodline. The only way retarded shit like that gets through us if its got American backing. If not theyr getting American bullets.
>>217215506That honestly could've worked. I saw the movie recently and Sosa did seemed concerned when he asked Tony on what went wrong. If Tony lied and said the bomb malfunctioned, Sosa probably would have bought it.
>>217215517>>217215624>>217215856Tony did want to fuck his sister, it's part of the story and there are deleted scenes that expand upon this. They just cut it for time. The whole "fuck me, tony" bit at the end would make no sense if that's not the message the writer was trying to convey.
>>217215751>holy Jesus of christWho talks like this?
>>217206879yeah, he used 3rd world tactics in a 1st world country, he should have made it look like a suicide ;)
>>217217681>bait this obvious
>>217217993>trust me bro, deleted scenesGoogle says you’re full of shit but you already knew that.
>>217218214LOLThat bitch dead. Her clone is doing a good job pretending to be her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M82jvnwga0Ei get an excuse to post this video>>217218293don't want to get off topic, but my favorite Hillary moment was when she's coughing, and she spits out some green alien egg, lol, this song also rocks,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
>>217213317maybe don’t try to shit test someone for an extremely important job you cannot afford to fail?
>>217217031Well Sosa's actor was in fact gay IRL. He even died of AIDS.
>>217217915>the bomb my expert assassin made failed? hmm ok. Oh by the way where is Alberto? I haven't heard from him >uhhhh
>>217219634Well this was afyer the fag movie pacino made so he must have made friends
>>217215599>The point wasn't to drive attention away but to scare other journalists off of doing the sameTo what end moron? Why would he give a fuck about journalists reporting about his activities unless it brought him negative attention? Killing a journalist in a way that makes international front page news does NOT help him. It only hurts him.
>>2172094259/11 for example
>>217217915That's not how gangs work. If it happens under your watch, you pay for it. It doesn't matter how much the fuck up "isn't your fault."
>>217215820*holds up gun**shoots u*
>>217206879pablo escobar literally carbombed an entire newspapers main office, injuring 80 people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia
