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>mid-22nd century
>interstellar travel
>colonization of planets in another solar systems
>mind-transfer tech, avatar bodies
>cloning, immortality, room-temperature superconductors
But...
>no military drones
>no artillery, no long-range missiles
>no AI controlled mechs
>not even orbital bombardment from those giant interstellar colony ships
That's pretty implausible already, but then...
>standard strategy is infantry charging on the ground with machine guns
>air combat is small aircraft dogfights in close range
>constantly being defeated by savages with bows and small wild animals
>the only single victory is destroying a big tree
Earth military is absolutely retarded and incompetent. Even using current day tech Na'vi would be absolutely obliterated in 1 month, at most.

Why are they so incompetent?
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The humans in the Avatar universe are basically just niggers and jews. The Na'vi are the Aryans, whose birthright homelands are being invaded by endless waves of disgusting, destructive immigrants, just like real life Europeans.
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>>217214213
>no military drones
Those exist
>no AI controlled mechs
those exist too
>standard strategy is infantry charging on the ground with machine guns
>air combat is small aircraft dogfights in close range
>constantly being defeated by savages with bows and small wild animals
>the only single victory is destroying a big tree
All of this is a result of magnetic anomalies in the AO that make targeting hardware shit the bed and prevent any kind of unmanned or computer controlled drones useless. And even still they managed to fuck up the tree in the first movie. All things considered they aren't doing bad at all. As Quaritch says in the first movie Pandora is an extremely hostile environment for humans for a multitude of reasons.
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Tyranny of distance, they have to send shit from earth or the closest base.
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They are a security personnel at a mining site. I found it a bit of a recon, how they're presented as some cream of the crop worthy of being cloned in second gilm.
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>>217214213
Because Cameron is a liberal hippie douche who doesn't understand manliness, doesn't understand actual discipline, doesn't understand the military, the founding fathers or anything that gave us the freedoms and his ability to express his stupid little world, he talks about how testosterone is bad and all that so yeah, that's why. He's
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>Why is Earth military so incompetent
Blame capitalism and private mercenaries
>standard strategy is infantry charging on the ground with machine guns
Blame Peter Jackson for that
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>>217214332
oh yeah, the magnetic anomalies, I forgot they exist as they've never been an issue in last two movies
even in the first one they could somehow broadcast avatar link from inside floating magnetic anomaly islands, so it can't be that bad
I guess the big energy tornado in fire and ash finale was magnetic anomaly? but other than sucking the ship it didn't seem to cause much problems with tech
>Pandora is an extremely hostile environment for humans for a multitude of reasons.
so hostile that a human kid grew up there and became tarzan
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>>217214508
What the fuck, it literally incinerated the area of a small country. Why can't they just fly this thing over every Na'vi village and be done with them?
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>>217214213
yeah. funny thing is, i noticed that the only time i ever heard about these movies in public was because of some dudes were complaining about how stupid the battles were
someone NEEDS to make a movie with similar quality and budget but with the humans winning. i bet it's gonna easily outsell whatever records these gay hippie movies had, by a huge margin
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>>217214579
HUMANITY FUCK YEAH: THE MOVIE
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>>217214523
>so hostile that a human kid grew up there and became tarzan
Yeah because he wasn't trying to fight all the wildlife on the planet like the RDA is.
>I guess the big energy tornado in fire and ash finale was magnetic anomaly? but other than sucking the ship it didn't seem to cause much problems with tech
Other than preventing any drones or remote hardware from functioning.
>even in the first one they could somehow broadcast avatar link from inside floating magnetic anomaly islands, so it can't be that bad
I'm not enough of a lorenerd to have an explanation for that but it sounds kind of like a bunch of the 3rd movie got rewritten at some point in any case. I remember reading some claimed leaks like a year ago about a ton of shit about a big showdown happening in the vicinity of a magnetic anomaly with a bunch of info about how the RDA setting off a nuke or some shit created the anomalies in the first place. The synopsis the anon gave was surprisingly accurate to what we ended up seeing and would partially explain why the anomaly just shows up in the 3rd act with no setup despite seeming like something that would have had an entire side plot devoted to it.
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>>217214213
Because dipshit leftists like Cameron can't wrap their head around the idea that military tactics are a discipline every bit as nuanced as his faggot hippie blue cat turd worlder utopia.
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>>217215019
you'd expect a guy who made Hurt Locker to know better
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Nuke Pandora from orbit.
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>>217214213
Look at how incompetent the U.S. military is. Lost every single war post WW2, can't even pull out of Afghanistan without losing billions of dollars in military equipment. People like OP basically live in a 9 year old's fantasy of what militaries consist of and think that having a lot of shiny toys instantly solves human stupidity and of adopting political and cultural structures that are antithetical to successful militarism. Humanity in the world of avatar has all the problems of current day but on steroids. There is no flora and the air quality is Detroit levels globally due to continuing an unsustainable extraction economy where nobody preserves anything required to live. Materialistic consumerism is the predominant cultural framework and individualism is more widespread than any collective endeavor.
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>>217215845
You're confused as to who made what
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>>217214213
Retards like OP will make YT essays having tantrums about earth's military in Avatar meanwhile it's taken Putin 4 years to invade a bordering country that no longer has an existent populace.
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>>217214332
if optics like the ones we see on their sniper rifles work then EO targeting for remote weapon systems shouldn't be an issue

but nitpicking about military realism in sci-fi is one of man's most autistic pursuits
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aren't they all just corporate mercs?
and everything has to be made on-site because interstellar transport is hideously expensive
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>>217217321
that's hardly autistic nitpicking because it's just so far beyond suspension of disbelief with how stupid and non-modern the military is
warfare in avatar feels like watching a sci-fi movie from the 60's which takes place in 2020 but still shows everyone using giant CRT monitors and tape recorders and other outdated stuff because that's what the creators had in their time and they couldn't imagine anything beyond that
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Why does every flying vehicle need giant rotors and propellers that are completely unprotected (no wire cages, nothing) from getting shot with arrows or whatever
why do their sonic underwater weapons do nothing
like modern warships can kill whales miles away accidentally with their sonar alone
like a real underwater sonic weapon would turn the insides of every living thing within a kilometer radius into jelly
the ones in the movie can't even knock a swimming na'vi unconscious
where are the jets
where are the drones
where are the BOMBS
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>>217214213
I can (almost) excuse the military tech essentially being WW2-level with a sci-fi coat of paint just because there obviously wouldn't be a plot if the humans had realistic military tech
but, especially in regard to the 3rd movie, how the absolute fuck is the general lady unable to comprehend the absolute gem that quaritch has delivered to them with the ash people?
like the literal first europeans to show up in the americas were already hyper-aware of the fact that native allies were a strategic necessity and were extremely desperate to make inroads and allies amongst the locals. this is basically been the norm for the entirety of human history - it's twenty thousand times harder to conquer and hold a place without a cooperative section of the local populace to be your wedge into actually governing the conquered territory
at least with the first movie it seems the humans sort-of understood this with the avatar program being a means towards that end but by the 3rd movie they basically have forgotten about it entirely
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>>217218190
wire cages would block enough airflow to the point where the things wouldn't be able to fly, it's why we don't have them on airliners to prevent birds from flying into the engines
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>>217218784
i'm not an expert but surely in the next 150 years there will be some way to make helicopter rotors arrow proof
what about really thin carbon fiber? or just making them way more durable? i literally cannot believe this is really a difficult problem to solve
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>>217217184
How long would it take if they hadnt been given billions of dollars and countless free military assets from NATO and its allies?
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>>217214213
Same reason their only way of getting to the magic rocks is by blowing everything up and pissing off the natives- the plot.
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>>217214213
If you arrive at Pandora with a planet cracker, do you blow up the planet for unobtainium, or do you spare the planet for the immortal whale oil?
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does james cameron really think pacifists simply haven't taken the time to consider the fact that their choice to be pacifists would allow others to hurt or kill them
like does he think he could walk into a village of jains and convince them all to stop being pacifists by threatening them or something
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The pawnee killed like a quarter of the Virginia settlers in the early 17th century by pretending to be nice and sneak in just to kill any colonist one day



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