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>It's so fucking over for real this time edition

>>217197101
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Pity bump stranger bros
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I've never seen a show consistently get worse season to season like this. Season 1 was very good, season 2 was good, season 3 was okay, season 4 was bad, season 5 was very bad. Just a steady slide into dogshit.
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>>217219081
Prison Break says hello.
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>>217219037
Kek, he's only in slop media now after Stranger Things went south. Those checks are getting smaller and smaller, he might as well pick up a full-time job while he's at it.
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>>217219037
How did he do it?
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He got over 6 million for season 5 alone, probably around 10-15 million for the show

Plus all those fan-meets at comic cons and stuff bring in a few hundred thousand a weekend

PLUS he's a successful musician, selling out small to mid sized venues. Probably pulls in a million or so a year from that gig with streaming, merch etc

Dude is worth at least $20,000,000 now unless he just spent it on shit that doesn't have equity like a home
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Okay, I just finally finished it

Holy fucking DOGSHIT
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>>217219037
>five million dollars
So, like an apartment the size of a closet then.
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>>217219037
>worth five million
Does he have gold in his head or something?
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Quick rundown on this secret episode bullshit? Why would people think such a thing exists? The finale was as final as it could have been with that 45 minute ending.
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>>217219333
Videogame brain and speed running culture make people believe they can unlock “secret content” or extra episodes
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I still haven't watched the last episode. maybe I'll get drunk enough tonight and get through it.
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>>217219379
see>>217219165
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Alright everyone post your:
>favorite character(s)
Mike, Steve, Billy, Eddie, Derek
>waifu(s)
Holly, Robin, Chrissy
>season ranking
1>3>2>4>5
>favorite licensed track(s)
Hazy Shade of Winter
Twist of Fate
Material Girl
California Dreamin
I Think We're Alone Now
>ships
Mileven, Dolly, Hellcheer, Steve/Robin
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>>217219037
with wired headphones too
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>>217219598
That one time Dustin looks the most normal.
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>>217219647
GAY?!
AHHAHAHAHA!
DIDDY AHH OGRE BLUD
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>>217219081
Shows generally can be carried by the steam of a strong first season then all they need to do in the following ones is just have 'epic' moments that can be spammed all over TikTok. while relying less on good plots and character development.

Then there's all the time in the world for the first season to be written while time constraints come in going forward.
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>>217219647
This scene was so fucking completely unnecessary.
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You wouldn't catch me dead on a NYC subway whether I was a billionaire or smoking crack rocks on the street
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>>217219647
Whoa, he's just like me!
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>>217219782
not to mention this show takes place in what,1986? there's no way coming out as gay during that time would have been met with such positivity.
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>>217219782
The Duffer brothers unironically thought this would be a powerful moment going into the finale.

Instead it will be remembered as one of the worst parts of the show resulting in the lowest rated episode on IMDB.
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>>217219805
Why am I laughing so much at this
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Why did they turn Vecna into Epstein this season?
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They should stop talking. Really, kek
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AI bros...
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>>217219081
1>4>3>2>5
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>>217220879
This, except I'm switching 4 and 3 after rewatching. The Russian prison parts really drag.
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>>217219081
I think S1 and S3 are the best and I think S4 and S2 are about equal, so I don't think the show got worse and worse with each season, but I was pretty astounded by how hard the writing took a nose dive in S5. I don't watch many TV shows but I don't think I've ever seen a drop off that steep personally.
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>>217220819
No! Don't be a creep, use this gift to put Holly in cute costumes instead!
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>>217220819
This whole controversy feels manufactured by butthurt journos that don't like Elon. Yes, I've seen grok make cheese pizza, but still...everyone posting about this? Doesn't feel natural.
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I don't really get why people in these threads rate quite S4 so highly. I enjoyed it but there were still some serious writing problems and missed opportunities. S3 was definitely better.
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>>217219379
I watched it pretty sloshed, and still thought it was dogshit, and noticed all the inconsistencies despite the drunkness. First time I've watched something and thought to myself "this is shit" but it just kept going.
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>>217221034
of course its not natural dumbass. you dont need to be so confused and questioning it non stop. anyone not a dumb fuck knows its manufactured and people ignore it because engagement with it does nothing but give them a chance to reply back more bullshit. just because everyone is constantly calling it out doesnt mean no one can tell its not manufactured bs.
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>>217220819
>User "CampeonChampion" not found
They nuked his account kek
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>>217219333
Children with a decade worth of heartcanon are mad that the Demogurgles didn't anally rape everyone
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>>217219854
I think they were forced to add it, considering that it doesn't matter at all in the finals.
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>>217221039
That final battle in the mall was kino
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Imagine the timeline where Billy lives and becomes the Vegeta of the group.
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>>217221469
Imagine if Season 2 focused on Max and her brother as the new MCs and we moved on from the nerdy D&D group.
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>there are people that unironically liked erica
WTF?
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>>217221469
they really wasted this guy's character in season 3
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Jonathan is a fucking chud
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>>217219081
>No seriously mystery box shows always get better
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>>217221510
Only braindead normies like characters like Erica
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>>217221570
>this women is
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>>217221510
>>217221588
She's kinda cute, ngl
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>>217221510
>>217221588
THERE IS NO AMERICA WITHOUT ERICA
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>>217220879
>3 above anything
either female or gay
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>>217221657
I'm both.
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>>217219037
You see too many actors filing for bankruptcy and I can only imagine its because they make bad choices.
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>>217221683
cool, when are you killing yourself?
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My official and final character tier list for Stranger Things. I show my normie friends and they got passed and we went into huge arguments over it
>why don't you like Erica/Will/Eleven/Nancy/Bob?
>why do you like Billy?!
>what if you had a daughter?!
What a bunch of pussies lol
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>>217220879
Absolute truth
Anyone who says 4 is bad is a retarded faggot. Worse compared to 1 yeah maybe if you wanna split hairs but 4 gaps the shit out of 3 and 2, and 3/2 gap the shit out of 5
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Ericabros...
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Let's play devil's advocate for season 1 Steve Harrington. I'll start:
>imagine some nigga takes pics of your girl naked
Anyone would justifiably kick that creep Jonathan's ass. Typical incel Hollywood fan fiction, Nancy would never leave Steve for Byers irl
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>>217221865
I remember some people actually seething over Nancy going back to Steve in the season 1 finale.
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>>217221865
That's not what devil's advocate is, retard.
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>>217221865
>devil's advocate
but no one thinks steven is in the wrong if anything it makes nancy seem like a retard for associating with a guy who took creep shots of her like some pajeet
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>>217221865
Jonathan is a pervert and a creep. That never changed. Nancy did.
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Jonathan molested Will and turned him gay.
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>rich people should waste money
>if i was rich I'd just waste more money than i already waste while being poor
This is why poor will remain poor regardless of intervention.
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>>217221865
Steve actually went too easy on him
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>>217221933
Fine then, Einstein. Let's play devil's advocate Billy Hardgrove in season 2
>looking for your missing sister and you find her in a cabin in the woods with boys her age plus some highschool senior
Anyone would immediately start throwing hands in that situation
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>>217219278
He probably owns a 450sqft condo in the bronx.
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>>217222067
You don't know what devil's advocate is. Stop using it.
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Not only were these guys were based for putting that dumb slut in her place. Of course kikeflix makes them the "bad guys" and kills them off. Nancy clearly can't handle jokes and she needs better stories, its that simple
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>>217221717
>Robin
>Based
Fucking kys already
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/crxqtARK_sc
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>>217222242
I have a crush on Maya Hawke
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U can call me a creep but she has the best face card in ST
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Vecna is such a girl dad :)
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>>217222067
Not to mention it was at Will's (zombie boy) house too.
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>>217222571
Those DSLs
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oh no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPJysJ3LbNM
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Racism brah
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>>217219598
>favorite characters
Steve, Dustin, Billy
>waifus
s2 11, s3 Robin, s5 Holly
>season ranking
1>2>3>4>5
>favorite licensed track
every breath you take
>ships
Stobin, Harringrove, Dolly
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>>217219598
>favorite character(s)
Steve, Billy, Eddie, Dustin, Max
>waifu(s)
Max, Holly, Vickie
>season ranking
1>3>2>4>5
>favorite licensed track(s)
Time After Time
Neverending Story
>ships
Idk, I guess Steve/Nancy and Mike/Eleven. I'm kind of into the idea of crack ships like Will/Max, Jonathan/Vickie, Billy/Nancy (if Steve's with Robin)
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End of Beginning will be #1 in the UK later today

Stevebros, we won
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>>217221469
Oh I did:
> Billy survived Season 3
> Gets powers instead of Will to spy on the Mind Flayer since he's been the closest to him out of anyone
> Grows closer to Max as she has to watch over him while he's using his powers
> Vecna twists his Dad's mind into thinking he's possessed by the devil and he has to go into hiding with Eddie
> Biltl and Eddie have a bunch of little scenes were they bicker with each other and get in each other's nerves
> Billy/Nancy the superior pairing (she's the group's Bulma even)
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>>217221500
There's not a not of ways the anthology could've hooked me, but that would've worked
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Conformity gate status? I'm tired of waiting
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>>217221933
Yes it is
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Everything after Kali was released was illusion.
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>>217222172
She deserved a spanking for how much she acted up while working there
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>>217219782
The actor is pro zionist and the hollywood jews needed him to be associated with lgbtq values as most of the latter are on the palestine bandwagon.
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>>217221717
>Bob cringe
why
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>>217219037
Do people even understand how money works? 5 million isn't even enough to retire these days especially if you want to take care of your family. You want to save as much money as possible, particularly since this is Joe Keery's only steady stream of income. As far as I know, he's not earning this type of salary on any other show or movie. Taking public transportation if it is available to you is a great way to save your hard-earned dollars. It's almost as if Zoomers don't have any concept of the value of money or how it works. Which isn't surprising considering how terrible our education system is.
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>>217219081
are you insane or something? that happens more than not. with every show. especially popular ones that get dragged on for no reason other than money. this is expected. them making it good with all stipulations would be a stroke of genious.
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Things that pissed me off about this show:
Season 4 flipping the script from "Horror creatures from another world" to "It's just another evil human guy behind it all".
How did the Soviets get away so fast? How did the Soviets get the Demos, Dogs and Mindflayer dust anyways?
If the Soviets had their own portals into the Upside Down, shouldn't they have shown them in Season 4?
Where the fuck is Dart?

Things that didn't piss me off: Mindflayer prioritized his insatiable appetite, so he probably consumed his own underlings the same way he used Vecna to become the big flesh creature that Mindflayer always wanted to be. Vecna was stupid enough to be used by the Mindflayer and became integrated as an organ.
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>>217219782
And longer than the villain's demise to boot.
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>>217219782
it was neccessary to make chuds seethe and it worked
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>>217223848
> $100,000 a year for 50 years is not enough money to live on
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>>217223955
Let's recap all the plot holes this season:
> Mind Flayer coming back
> Five year old Henry tanking a gunshot from a chrome plated .44 Magnum that would make Dirty Henry blush instead of it exploding hiss hand and making him scream and cry in pain
> Holly Wheeler aging four years in 12 months
> Why is the air in the Upside Down and Abyss not toxic anymore when it explicitly caused health problems previously
> Why are they able to just enter the Upside Down willy nilly now when previously any time someone tried to enter they were almost immediately murdered
> How did Dr. Brenner have a detailed notebook about the Upside Down being a wormhole supported by "exotic matter" before the Upside Down even existed (there wouldn't be a copy of it in the Upside Down if it didnt exist at the moment of its creation)
> Robin and Steve taking over the radio station even though the preview DJ's should not only still be around but the military would probably want to control their airwaves since she's just broadcasting top secret info on FM airwaves for miles out
> The Flesh wall that never existed before
> "He peed on it! That means he must know something about it!"
> Why would they have a military base in the Upside Down, an extremely hostile and toxic warzone filled with creatures they have no defense against?
> How did a woman become not only a medical doctor but a five star general with above top secret clearance when she would've had to have begin tbisncareer in the 1920's?
> Why does the Mind Flayer need Henry?
> How did suitcase guy get a rock from the Abyss?
> Why would he think that a five year old boy scout was secretly a secret agent assassin?
> No one thought about what if the radio tower didn't line up with a gate?
> Why did Dustin want him and Steve to use the spears when last time he and Eddie got immediately BTFO because they weren't effective weapons
> Where are the bats? Last time the second they entered the Upside Down they were just swarmed with them
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>>217224159
> Why/how did 8 leave the lab when they were kids? Why wasn't she killed by Henry like everyone else?
>why were there no Demogorgons in the other dimension defending the Mind Flayer
>what happened to Derek’s family
>why wasn’t anybody arrested for drugging and kidnapping Derek’s family
>why did the military just let the gang go
>what happened to Dr Kay and her team
>why didn’t Will feel pain when battling the Mind Flayer and Vecna if he’s linked to the hive mind
>why didn’t the damage to the exotic matter when Nancy shot it not suck everything out, what blocked it? Does the flesh wall heal?
> How did Murray get the lights to work in the lab when electricity doesn't work in the Upside Down?
> Why was there a tank of salt water in the Upside Down when there's never been water in the Upside Down?
>How did Mike know what happened to Kali?
>How did he even now she died?
>How did he even arrive at the "Kali helps Eleven escape" conclusion?
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>>217224180
And finally:
>why did Vecna wait another 1.5 years before enacting his plan after opening the gates

Why does he HAVE to do it on the anniversary of the day he kidnapped Will? It's like they were going to do some kind of "it's during a total solar eclipse!" plotline but forgot to add that part in, and there were many opportunities: Not only was there a Total Solar Eclipse in 1987 there was also an annual solar eclipse, a Lunar Eclipse that lasted two days, they also discovered a Supernova that year. Imagine if they had made it so that the final battle/collapse of the Upside Down had resulted in Supernova 1987, that would have at least been kind of cool and tied it to a real life event from the year. There were also two meteor showers that year they could've used instead.

There was also a "mass meditation event" called Harmonic Convergence where a bunch of people meditated at the same time. They could've had Vecna exploit that for psychic energy to try to break the veil between worlds and if they wanted to use artistic license have that result in the supernova.
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>>217224192
If you expect them to think about eclipses, just remember the fucking reload where Nancy pulls the carry handle
They gave no fucks anymore whatsoever
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>>217224141
Holy shit you zoomers ARE actually this stupid. $5 million isn't even how much money he has in the fucking bank, you fucking idiot. $5 million is almost certainly his net worth. That means he has maybe 5 million dollars in assets. And that's a big maybe because I doubt someone like Joe Keery, who's in his early 30s, is financially savvy enough to have appreciating assets. Not to mention, on top of all of that, you have to factor in that he almost certainly isn't just taking care of himself. Let's say he wants to take care of his parents. Let's say he gets married and wants to have kids. Let's say he wants to buy a fucking house. Good luck doing that in any major city market especially right now. None of this even mentions whether or not he's settled all of his debts or faces any unforeseeable healthcare costs. And since this nigga is not living in Florida, he's going to be paying a fuck load in taxes, assuming he hasn't already.
There's a reason why everyone says your fucking generation will never own a home and will never fucking retire. The situation right now is dire
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>OK TIME TO WRAP UP YOU'RE ALL BORING NORMIES NOW
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>>217219598
>>217223432
>>217223447
You are all pedophiles
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I don't understand appeal of 11.
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>>217219647
This snarky jew would've been calling Will a faggot nonstop from the moment he came out.
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>>217223397
Honestly he was just a boring character whose only relevance as being BBC for Max. They should have killed him off but literally couldn't because DATS WACIST.
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>>217220980
>Alice Holly
CUTE CUTE
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If you watch the Holly scenes in Season 5 closely, you'll notice a lot of shots showing her bloomers or those toddler clothes she's too big for making it in
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>we have to save the planet and cut emissions!
>*joe takes the subway*
>lol look at this broke fuck, why doesn't he drive around in a limo at 5mpg
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>>217224442
Those net worth sites know fuck all about what any of these celebs have. They just pull figures out their asses.
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When's the documentary coming out?
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>>217219037
Fuck this libshit
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>>217224571
The most interesting thing they did with him was the idea that he was drifting from the group in season 4, which they forgot about by the next season as they were obsessed with keeping the status quo
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If they wanted to portray Lucas’ sister as a nerdy, super intelligent kid, maybe they shouldn’t have cast a 60 IQ sheboon who talks exclusively in Ebonics. I struggle to find her believable.
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>>217219037
His name is Leroy Merlin
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>>217226094
The tiktok brain rotted ones loved how sassy she was and that she was smarter than everyone
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>>217222297
Most annoying character in 5 by far. I wish somebody would break her fucking nose to shut her up.
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>he had her playing HOUSE
the blatant denial about the painfully obvious undertones behind 001’s victims is CRAZY.
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>>217224522
Anon, i...
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>>217225595
Monday though its probably going to be 90% everyone blowing smoke up each others asses so wouldn't expect much.
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>>217226327
Rude
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>>217223755
I like the actor and he was originally in alright tier but I have to stick to my principles: NO SIMP AHH NIBBAS
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>>217221971
Jonathan should have died in season 4 at the latest, if I had to swap him with anyone it would have been Jason as he was far more likeable and he had more potential as a character for the last season:
>cut the Dustin bullying subplot if you’re not going to have them get ripped apart by demogorgons, instead have him hate Jason for indirectly causing Eddie’s death
>he feels bad for witch hunting a guy that turned out to be innocent after finding out about Vecna and tries to reconcile with Lucas, turning up at the hospital to talk to him about how he’s coped with the true nature of Chrissy’s death
>maybe have him be a rebound for Nancy as both think they’re a match as their own partners died to 001/the upside down, and they realise they’re both just wallowing which can lead to Nancy and Steve getting back together
>maybe he uses his speech checks to get the town to go against the military or something
>either make him the sacrifice or have his arc end in the epilogue with Dustin forgiving him
hire me jewflix, I’m autistic enough to rewrite basically the entire show
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What was Vecnor's endgame? He said that he discovered a perfect world which he is going to bring to earth, but then when we see it in the finale, its just a rocky desert. Its just like rocky deserts on earth, except that some rocks are floating. Why was he so obsessed with it? If that is his idea of a perfect world, he could of just moved to Nevada and be happy there.
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>>217227646
His endgame was to destroy everything and/or turn everyone gay, it does feel like him being evil and not also a victim of the flayer was last-minute so they probably cut any of the scenes actually explaining what he was trying to do
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>>217219647
Same bro. I hate women so fucking much it's unreal.
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>>217222648
Is Jamie Campbell Bower a Homo Sexual?
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>>217223743
Nancy just needs someone to explain things to her. To tell her everything.
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>>217227698
Wikipedia says he’s got a girlfriend, he seems like a theater gay if anything
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I'm fascinated he thought people would be sick of seeing the shows iconic villain but not having no less than 3-4 team planning sessions in the exact same room in the radio tower.
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>>217227646
Prime cunny
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>>217221865
Steve didn't listen to Nancy when she explained it. Him being a douche and picking a fight with the kid whose brother was kidnapped, probably killed, was a massive douchebag maneuver. He did make up for it since then, but Steve was a total shit for that.
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>>217222067
Billy was right about Max's new friends. Getting caught up in their shit is why he died and why Max got put in a coma
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>>217227782
>demogorgan fatigue
What did they mean by this?
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>>217227802
He likes boys
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>>217228044
Add it to the list
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>>217227646
Mindy Flayflay was controlling Vecna the entire time
Only Vecna thought he was in any kind of charge
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>>217228386
If anything I wish the flayer was actually in the rest of the season beyond the finale, I already sperged about rewriting the show earlier but I think the biggest issue is that they left him for the last episode and acted like wet noodle vecna who got bitched over and over was the main villain after already having Dustin theorise that he was being controlled
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>>217228044
>I don't fucking know man we stole the original concept for Stranger Things off a guy we went to college. Next thing you know people are asking questions and your wife's divorcing you. t. R.Duffer
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>>217228478
Vecna was a mistake
The only funny thing they did with him was the s4 finale, and I don't think that Hawkins xmas market sold Roasted Vecnuts to capitalize on it
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>>217221510
>ERICA NEEDED CLOSURE
she is still in school being the token 1,000,000 IQ negro character, and they show her using her genius-tier IQ to make the confetti launchers.
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>>217221510
I mean where do you put her? she can't go with Hooper and Joyce, she's a decade younger than Steves lot and no one wanted her ruining the last scene with the main group.
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>>217228538
Vecna shouldn’t have been a thing but if he really had to exist they should have gone the route of him being fully flayed and another proxy for the flayer(like the meat body in season 3)
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how to stay wealthy 101
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>>217227910
Max was the most useless character in the show
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>>217228734
Kali exists
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>>217228816
Kali wasn't in the main group. There was no reason to add Max. Billy was fine on his own as Steve's new classmate
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>>217228816
Robin even more so, at least 008 had some plot relevance, she just existed to be annoying and have a romance subplot that ends with them presumably breaking up after the timeskip
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>>217227646
The mindflayer wanted it, henry was just his retarded puppet
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>>217228816
>Kali exists
the deus ex machina that is the only reason people think 11s ashes aren't clogging up the vents in the library?
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>>217228837
>Netflix
>Why is there a racemixing white girl in the show that has zero relevance to the plot?
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>>217228734
>>217228868
Steve, Jonathan and Robin really did nothing.

if the Duffers had actually planned ahead they would have just had Nancy keep breaking up with Steve and getting back together with him, fixing the male character redundancy and removing the need to create Robin in the first place.
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>>217228956
Reminder Robin's use was because somehow a high school student in middle America knew fluent Russian in the 1980s
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>>217219081
>I've never seen a show consistently get worse season to season like this.
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>>217228994
She was created as steves new love interest until maya decided she was a lesbian at the end of shooting
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>>217228956
Yeah exactly, and even then her primary reason for being in the show was dropped as Maya Hawke didn’t want her to date Steve which just made her dead weight past season 3. With Jonathan I understand why they kept him but as I said earlier(when I was explaining how they could have kept Jason as a cast member past season 4) they should have killed him off in season 4 at the latest.
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>>217219150
How much of an effeminate, bitch-made faggot does one have to be to understand what any of this is? And to post it?
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>>217228734
I definitely would not agree with that. She was at least given some things to do with Holly in S5 and she played a significant role in S3 and S4.
>>217228956
Steve gets to coast by because he's one of the fan favorite cool guy characters but holy fuck did Jonathan suck ass, particularly in these last two seasons. Bugged the fuck out of me that he was more concerned about his relationship with his high school girlfriend than he was about his own brother. He barely even had any interactions with Will or Joyce these past two seasons. Far cry from the concerned, caring big brother from S1. Robin basically only exists in S5 to facilitate Will's coming out scene.
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>>217224159
>>217224180
>>217224192
Not really plot holes, but more shitty writing
>wine mom damaging a monster that's impervious to bullets
>Robin's girlfriend believing it's more likely she's on drugs despite the earth opening up, military quarantine and the upside down leaking into their world earlier that year
>the whole town continuing living and working like nothing is wrong
>Black sassy girl and the teacher just have no conclusion after the infiltration
>Nancy becoming Rambo and having no remorse or guilt about killing humans
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They couldn't get Harbour or Ryder to sit down and say goodbye they were in such a rush to get the fuck out
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>>217219081
It's actually 1>3>epilogue>4>2>5
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>>217229366
What did Max do in S3 that was significant? All she did was give Billy a reason to go after the group.
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So we're all pretty confident that the documentary is a misdirect and Episode 9 is coming out on the 12th?
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>>217229570
Yes. 12th January 2032 its when the sequel series will begin after Netflix realises it has nothing left.
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>>217229444
Wow, I hate Harbour and Winona now
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>>217219081
I geninely don't get this board sucking off S3. It is the worst season by a longshot. I could do a beat-by-beat, but I'm to lazy, so in summation it tries to be a comedy, but forgets the part where comedy is supposed to be funny. It also completely wastes Jake Busey and Cary Elwes. The only thing that I didn't really like about S4 was all the California/stoner road trip/Salt Lake City shit. Also Hopper being alive was a colossal asspull.

I'd even put S2 over it just because Bob and Billy are decent additions to the cast (Max was annoying until S4), and Steve's begrudging babyface turn is great.
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>>217228601
It also wasn't enough that we have one mega super genius girl, we had to have Suzy too, who they literally say "she's a genius" about in awe. Because we need girls in STEM.
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>>217228837
I always thought it was kind of fucked that Steve never got a chance for a rematch with Billy.
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>>217227646
It's like the others are saying, it was the Mind Spider making him think that's what he wanted, kind of like Reaper Indoctrination in Mass Effect. They can make you do their bidding while you feel like you're taking action to fight them the whole time.

Incidentally, Conformity Gate ain't got shit on Indoctrination Theory.
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>>217219037
>How dare an Actor beave with financial responsibility and take public transport with the rest of us plebs rather then shell out on a stretch Limo each time they want to move around. Do they not know that they're supposed to be irresponsible gods?
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>>217229444
Has Harbour ever been in anything non-Stranger Things related that hasn't bombed? Even the Alone in the Dark game bombed.
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>>217229079
It seems like the Duffers were clearly building up to Will being gay, so I'm amazed that they didn't just tell her no because it would undercut the impact of Will's coming out. Of course, that was 2019, so maxiumum woke, so they were probably just afraid of the bad press and twitter harassment that would come from it. The gay shit was almost a mafia protection racket back then.
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>>217219037
>Go on Twitter today
>See news about Ryder and Harbour not being in the upcoming S5 documentary that drops on January 12th
>Conspiracy tards aka the #confirmitygate copers flood the comments that it’s because “that’s when the secret 9th Episode of S5 will drop”
Holy shit this level of cope is on another level
Anyone ever seen shit like this?
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>>217230203
My thoughts exactly. When I lived in toronto i would see people dressed very expensively on the subway all the time. Just being practical because downtown toronto traffic is a nightmare.
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>>217230385
Like I mentioned earlier, Indoctrination Theory was a big one, and I guess recently all the misplaced hype that Valve was going to announce Half-Life 3 at the Game Awards, and people finding clues where there weren't any.
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>>217230059
>It is the worst season by a longshot.
Totally absurd considering S5 exists. I really enjoy S3. It's fun, I like Max and her relationship with Billy and the other kids, I like the relationship between El and Hopper, I like that everyone more or less has something to do, I like Steve's relationship with Dustin and Robin and their subplot, I like the Mindflayer, I like the score, I like the summer atmosphere. It's also just objectively more well written than S5 and arguably more so than S4.
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>>217229184
stranger things, like all netflix shows, belong to single mothers over 30 and homosexuals
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>>217230385
Its honestly the perfect conspiracy because the Duffers can't just come out and say "yeah the finale was a bit shit you guys put a lot more thought into stuff than we did the cast and crew all just wanted to get it done and move on after ten years"
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>CM Punk shared his thoughts on Stranger Things 5 backlash.

>"I see it in wrestling. I see it with fandoms, with Stranger Things. People just seem to want to be angry about everything because it didn't happen the way they fantasy booked it in their head. To me that’s a slight mental illness."
Real quote btw
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>>217229593
*6th November 2032
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>>217230328
If they did I would bet everything I have that maya would have a giant melty both on set and social media and the show would get dogpiled resulting in a premature cancellation
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>>217230536
WWE is booked like absolute horseshit and fumbles anything they create, on top of fumbling anything they didn't create BECAUSE they didn't create it. If someone gets naturally over, it made Vince ANGRY. Control freak.
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>>217219081
I agree. I know some people have other rankings, but I'm currently doing a full-series rewatch in preparation for season 5, and it does just get worse and worse. When I watched season 3 when it first came out, I thought it was better than season 2, but now that I'm rewatching it, no, it's worse. It's much worse.
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>>217219037
Having money doesn't save you from traffic and from the convenience of taking the subway unless you own like a helicopter or someshit.
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>>217230420
Max and Billy barely interact without him just being a Mind Flayer puppet. We get almost no real Billy that entire season, which is a shame, because I liked him as a "street level" human antagonist.

The Russia subplot was cartoonishly retarded (nobody noticed a massive subterranean Russian base being built?). It doesn't help that the shitty sets look like a Disney Channel movie.

Hopper, Joyce, and Murray are annoying from beginning to end and basically just shout at each other the whole time (Ryder isn't even fucking trying). Joyce doesn't even apologize to Hopper for standing him up over magnets, and Hopper's lovestruck puppy act was just pathetic.

If you don't care whether Lucas/Max or Mike/El get back together, that first half of the season is a goddamn slog to get through.

Following up on the Karen/Billy thing was completely pointless. It was funny as a little one-off gag where the frustrated and neglected housewife briefly gets charmed by the hunky guy, it didn't need its own subplot.

Robin is a completely redundant addition to the main cast if she's not a love interest for Steve. Her entire role for the entire series is just following everyone around and occasionally chiming in with "quirkiness", and her being a lesbian stole any thunder the Duffers had intended for Will.

Max just comes off as an abrasive malcontent bitch in the first half of the season, seemingly going out of her way to sabotage Mike and El's relationship.

I'll also take Hopper and El running around in S5 getting shit done over the overlong awkward fixation on the Mike and El kissing thing in S3. I thought they had worked through Hopper's overprotectivness in the prior season.

The entire season was Steve's humiliation ritual.

Erica.

That nightmarishly cringe Neverending Story sing-along. Suzy is the worst part of every season that she's involved in.

The Meat Flayer stuff was cool, because it was basically The Thing meets The Blob, so I'll grant that.
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>>217224442
> All his money is tied up in assets
> He has no assets
You're jumping through hoops to try to say being a millionaire isn't a lot of money
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>>217224552
Anon, he's a jew. He should've been the one to convince Will he was gay in the first place and Max to date Lucas.
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>>217230536
Literally "Don't ask questions. Just consume product, and then get excited for next product."

That attitude is what has basically killed the entertainment industry.
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>>217230797
>convinces two white characters to sleep together
>not like that!!!

anti semites are wholly unserious
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>>217219037
How unforgivably carbrained. "He's taking public transport he must be poor" What the actual fuck are you saying? Fucking Americans, I swear to god
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>>217230888
>Just ride the train and risk being stabbed in the neck by a nigger, because the courts will do everything in their power to put you in prison for the rest of your natural life if you dare to raise your hands against a protected class in your own defense.

Yeah, you can suck my American dick. I'll drive, thank you.
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>>217224571
They honestly screwed up all the characterization they gave everyone at the beginning. It should be something like:
> The Hero
Will
> The Lancer
Lucas
> The Big Guy
Dustin
> The Smart Guy
Mike
> The Chick
Eleven

In episode 1 Will is a bit meek but ultimately values integrity and perseveres through adversity (despite Lucas telling him to cast a protection spell he goes for the fireball against the Demogorgon, and once it backfires Lucas tells him to lie about it, but he tells the truth anyway because it's the right thing to do. When Dustin challenges him to a race he doesn't have a problem making an unexpected head start and when the actual Demogorgon comes after him he rushes to his shed and loads a .22 to shoot it) that characterization disappears pretty much as soon as he goes into his coma in season 2 and never comes back.

Likewise we hear from Dustin in season one that Lucas is Mike's "best friend" because he's the one he's known the longest (since Kindergarten) and that he has a tendency to fly off the handle and get a little agro. Both of those things could've been explored and brought him to some new places (though I honestly don't care because I only get into the character when I imagine if he was White)

Dustin is pretty much good but I wish they hadn't sidelined him as emo in season 5 and his Eddie storyline should've been given to Will because blowing up his duo with Steve was a horrible decision.

Finally Mike. His development really stagnated and he just became "MC who's the main couple." Mike would be the Smart Guy since he's the Dungeon Master and also a nerd like the rest of them. He's the one who figures out how to flip the car over in season 3 "I told you guys. Physics!" and he was the one who geeked out the hardest about the HAMM radio at school. We could've gotten more scenes of him being brainy or otherwise nerdy even if it was him just doing long winded info dumps to Eleven about whatever random subject he was interested in.
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>>217226243
She crossed the line too many times and became just obnoxious
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>>217226457
They wanted to go there because they thought it would be creepy and elevated but don't want to deal with the implications because that's creepy and might hurt their careers
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>>217227642
That would've been based but he only existed for them to portray White Christians who care about their communities badly.

Other changes are Jonathan should've been paired with Vickie (the more you think about it the better it gets) Steve should've gotten with Robin, and Billy should've survived becoming the group's Vegeta and eventually getting with Nancy
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>>217231065
>Eddie bro storyline given to Will
This is a fucking good idea, especially since from the beginning we've been told Will is the rocking out kid
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>>217227910
Racist White people always end up being completely right about everything when you think about it
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>>217230750
A lot of this is just personal taste.
>Max and Billy barely interact without him just being a Mind Flayer puppet. We get almost no real Billy that entire season.
Admittedly they could have handled Billy a bit better but what we got I was okay with.
>The Russia subplot was cartoonishly retarded
Doesn't bother me. I enjoyed it and its cartoonishness.
>Hopper, Joyce, and Murray are annoying from beginning to end and basically just shout at each other the whole time
Didn't bother me.
>If you don't care whether Lucas/Max or Mike/El get back together, that first half of the season is a goddamn slog to get through.
I like those relationships so I didn't feel as though it was a slog. The road trip stuff in S4 is what really starts to feel like a slog to me.
>Following up on the Karen/Billy thing was completely pointless.
I agree with you there.
>Robin is a completely redundant addition to the main cast if she's not a love interest for Steve.
I disagree with this and I think if the writers were more talented they could have kept the lesbo reveal without ruining her character. I think it makes more sense for Steve because what Steve really needed in that moment was a friend who isn't Dustin. The fact that his character doesn't fall into the typical romantic dynamic is what makes him interesting. I actually wish they explored that more in S4 and S5.
>Max just comes off as an abrasive malcontent bitch in the first half of the season
I think that makes sense for her character and I like her and empathize with her. I also think Sadie Sink is one of the better actors out of the kids.
>I'll also take Hopper and El running around in S5 getting shit done over the overlong awkward fixation on the Mike and El kissing thing in S3.
I like both. I enjoy the father/daughter dynamic stuff.
>The entire season was Steve's humiliation ritual.
He goes through a lot throughout the show and that's why I like him.
>Erica and Suzy
I can agree with you there.
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>>217229079
What does that have to do with it? She auditioned to be his love interest. Just tell her she's going to have to deal with it or she's getting fired for breach of contract.

Imagine signing up to play Vecna then telling them you decided you're a pacifist so they have to rewrite the whole show to not have any conflict. It's not your own personal vanity project
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>>217230750
Oh, and the Russia subplot in S4. That becomes a HUGE slog upon rewatches especially. I think that alone can bump it below S3.
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>>217219037
>ten years and five seasons of the stranger things gravy train
>only worth five million
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>>217231294
>A lot of this is just personal taste.

Of course. All I can speak on is my personal impression of watching it. You're welcome to enjoy it if you do, I guess I just want different things out of this show than what that series was presenting.
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>>217231375
I won't disagree with you on that either. On retrospect, most of it takes place in that one courtyard, but it was interesting enough the first time through.
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>>217231608
I get it. The series definitely takes a little bit of a departure in S3 in the way that Aliens took a departure from the original Alien and I get why not everyone would appreciate that.
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>>217231519
The older teens got stiffed on contract negotiations. The adults and Millie were on the highest band they made about 9 million this season alone, Finns age group got 7 million and then the older lot just got less.
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The classic answer is Mike for the character that degenerated the most from S1-S5, but honestly on rewatch it's probably either Jonathan or Joyce.
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>MR. WHATSIT?
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https://youtu.be/68VA7KDEb58?si=6ZGjXe2epZ9tdIdw
Maya on Tonight show
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https://youtu.be/-4QDe0yotsc?si=t2y4gRZEM6H-rg91
We can't, we are too old!
LOL
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>>217231188
I’m curious about Jonathan and Vickie, I don’t like Jonathan and Vickie bordered on being a non-character, but they sound like a fun duo
I agree that Jason was made to prove a specific ‘point’ which is also why his death was more graphic than usual, which is a shame as he was more likeable and had more potential story wise than 90% of the main cast(as shown by my suggestions)
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>>217232159
There's almost a hundred percent likelihood this joke is getting made when Finn hosts SNL
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>>217229503
Eye candy with El and some character development for her
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>>217230059
I'm going to need the beat by beat because I honestly don't get the hate
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>>217224507
You have to go back. We are not becoming Plebbit. Go on there and ask people to tell you why Robin being a dyke wasn't a plot twist because "gay people just exist"
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>>217220819
@grok put this anon in a bikini
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So what is the next big CURRENT THING to watch?
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> 𑣆 test
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>>217231324
Remember who she's the daughter of
If you fire her, her parents will be pissed off at Netflix forever
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>>217230385
Why would them not being in the documentary even be a clue that they were dropping a secret episode?
>>217230573
That's why you don't hire nepo babies. A regular person would never even think to derail an entire show and blow up any chance of a career they had because you got hired to be a main characters love interest then decided the writers needed to company rewrite the character to not only add in faggotry but to make you a main cast member going forward after your only reason for existing was removed on top of it
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>>217230629
I had the opposite experience. For me it was:
1 > 3 > 2 > 5 vol 1 > 4 > 5 vol 2

But if I just did it season by season it would be:
1 > 3 > 2 > 4 > 5

The only thing I'll say against 3 is besides it brought the jew back, added in faggotry, Erica, and lost the small town weird fiction vibe.
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>>217232265
I genuinely don't think there will be one. Like I can't think of anything that's come out in the last 10 years that matches ST popularity there are now so many streaming services too it won't grab such a wide audience. Not to mention TikTok viewing habits have fucked entire generations.
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>>217230750
Ok, fair points.
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>>217230874
> Don't save yourselves for marriage. Drink and fornicate! If you have a whoopsie you can always get an abortion.
Pretty on brand
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>>217219037
do you losers not understand literally everyone in NYC does this
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holy fuck this was bad
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>https://x.com/miwiseheart/status/2009700442683719843
kek
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I think they wanted to avoid the Demo fights because they had enough of that in the S4 finale
And people would have bitched about it anyways
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>>217232503
Imagine trying to defend riding public transportation and calling people who don't live in shithole cities losers.
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>>217232398
Yeah exactly, it’s pretty obvious she has an ego because she’s Uma Thurman’s daughter and Netflix couldn’t see past the novelty of getting her for that exact reason rather than hiring an actual actress who won’t have a melty over being cast for a specific role
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>>217224721
You think that's cute? What about this?
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>>217231233
Exactly. Especially since Will spent season 3 only trying to get them to play D&D with him. It would make so much sense that he would've been the one to meet Eddie and start doing these awesome AD&D campaigns with him and then the other guys get jealous because he's not hanging out anymore and has a cool older friend who he's doing these sick campaigns with they've never even dreamed of. That would bolster his admiration of Billy because he would see it as him winning him his friends back and provide a framework for him to grow up while still doing the stuff he loves "being a D&D and rock nerd who everyone still thinks is cool and gets with girls"

On top of that Eddie would be good for Will since Will's so withdrawn and Eddie's such an ADHD spaz some times (his whole jumping up on the table speech thing) it would be blowing Will's mind and he'd totally go through a whole ohase trying to imitate him. Eddie would even have fun interactions with Joyce going to pick Will up to hangout because she'd be trying to talk to him in her flighty overprotective way and he'd hit her with something funny, maybe call her Mrs. B. Honestly those two would probably have the most realistic "high school kod meeting his friend's Mom" exchanges ever out to media.
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>>217232925
Jonathan would then be the one that has the whole: "Hey, thanks for looking out for him." talk that Steve did and it would make more sense because instead of it just being Dustin deciding he's got a cool new friend and doesn't need Steve anymore it would be Jonathan realizing he got too distracted by other crap when he should've been there for Will and thanking Eddie for filling that role for him. Especially since Jonathan is really withdrawn himself he would probably say something like: "you can do all that D&D and talking to people stuff. I'm not good at all that, so thanks for teaching him that." and THEN Eddie could hit him with the whole: "Oh, dude. He talks about you ALL the time. That kid adores you, man. I had to listen to that Clash album loke fifty times because he said I just wasn't getting it." which would actually make sense and be touching.

Then when he dies Will would not only be torn up from losing him but because he's afraid everything is going to fall apart and the UD keeps taking everything from him. Which would segue nicely into him taking a level in badass next season and being more assertive to avenge Eddie and defend his memory.

Honestly it all fits so well it's almost like that's how it was MEANT to be written and they just derailed it to add in the California stuff even though thats probably not the case (unless an intern went way off the rails and they just gutted their idea.)
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>>217232175
Yeah I just thought of that the other day and it looks like there's basically zero fan content about them, but I think it makes sense. Vickie seems like one of those nice girls that's a little goofy and over talkative and I think that would balance Jonathan out perfectly. He's pretty shy and withdrawn but has a surety about what he wants to do, who he is, and where he's going whereas Vickie seems like she's outgoing and fills in the space in conversations but is a little insecure and unsure of herself. She would wake Jonathan up a bit and get him out of his head and into more social situations while he would be a rock for her to lean on when she's uncertain and needs direction and I think they would both find each other surprisingly endearing. Vickie also seems like she could be a good big sister figure for Will since she's got a delicate and approachable personality while also being really jokey and talkative so I think they would both respond well to her
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>>217232265
I don't think there is anything. I can see Severance season 3 having some hype when it comes out in 2032 and maybe Wednesday in 2045 but I feel like both will fizzle out quick because it takes so long between seasons everyone just basically gets into the mind set that it's cancelled and one is over it's going to take so long to get another one that there doesn't feel like a point in getting to excited about it
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>>217232362
So what? What have either of them done, especially that would affect Netflix in any way? That's another reason Hollywood needs to die. Everyone is walking in eggshells around each other because why jew can hop on the phone and start complaining that they're offended and it turns into a whole ordeal
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She's the new Sydney Sweeney. Her hair and clothes are beautiful, and she's so pure and innocent.
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>>217232780
That would be cool but it will never happen because by the time they started filming she'd already be twenty so she wouldn't be able to play other Daenerys anymore
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>>217233149
She has no range and never will since she'll never have any life experiences outside of: "go to party, go home, go shopping, stay at resort, repeat."

They just go places and buy things.
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What the hell is this scene? Why does the demodog bounce off a door that isn't even closed?
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HOES MAD
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>>217233216
The nigoro kicks it but it's cut so shoddily you can barely see what happens
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>>217233248
There's clearly a sound effect of it hitting a door or something metal.
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>>217233073
I can’t lie you’re actually selling me on it even if I’m not a fan of Jonathan, the pairing is actually kind of cute
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>>217220819
Oh no! Not the underaged minors.
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>>217233305
He rolled a D20 on the kick or whatever shit nerds say LMAO
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>>217220819
@Grok, why did this retard crop out the bottom picture?
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Steddie and Mileven are better than Byler.
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>>217233244
She's not even good at dancing.
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>Steddie and Mileven are better than Byler.
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>>217221510
SAAAR WHY NOT CAHRACTER 37 NOT GIVEN HOUR OF TALKING TO CAMERA IM CONFUSE PLZ REDEEM SIDE CHARACTER PLZ
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>>217233305
The sound engineer didn't know what was happening because it's shot so badly, so assumed they were adding a door in post or something
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>>217233440
Right? It works really well, too because if you go with the idea that they should've just paired Steve up with Robin instead of making her gay they both work better with the "gay" girls without either of them having to be gay and frees them both from the Nancy love triangle (which didn't work out for either of them anyways.)

Separate from that I've also gotten really into the idea of Billy/Nancy which seemed like a crack ship at first but after looking at some fics it kind of has this Vegeta/Bulma vibe to it that works really well. This way all the characters stick around and they all get paired up nicely in a straight couple that works better than any of the official pairings.
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>>217233440
>>217234076
I kind of like the idea that she was another intern at the paper who Jonathan bonds over because she thinks his photography is neat and Nancy is being too much of a busy body and getting them in trouble. In wouldn't mind just taking Nancy out of that storyline and having it be Jonathan just meets her at Hawkins Post as a cute coffee girl while he's an aspiring intern (sort of a Peter Parker/Betty Brant set up) but I honestly don't know what else to do with Nancy that season unless she replaced Robin at Scoops Ahoy. Maybe she could be reworked somewhere else, especially if one were to try to set up the Billy love angle (though he is possessed for most of the season)
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>>217234076
How would Mrs. Wheeler play into this Billy/Nancy pairing? Would played off as a gag, like Karen and Billy feeling a bit awkward when left alone together
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>>217219120
He made a song that beat out Taylor swift…
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>>217219096
I stopped watching after season 2 and i was comparing it to prison break too. It felt like it would just turn into “now that we’ve solved this boss we find out the conspiracy goes deeper!” ad nauseum.
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>>217219081
S4 was great and better than 3 wtf nig
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>>217234076
Even with the current canon, Robin implies she broke up with Vickie and Vickie was with a dude before her so she probably swings both ways, so it could 100% happen after the epilogue
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what could have been done to make him more kino in s5? bro lost all aura
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>>217234411
Why did they turn him into he diddler this season?
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>>217234216
I would probably just have had the Karen/Billy thing been a joke at the end of Season 2 where she unexpectedly encounters a hunk at her door, especially if you take it as him just flirting with her to get info on where Max might be hiding out after being sent on a bit of a wild goose chase already (rolled a natural 20 in charisma with worn item boost) which sidesteps the whole girl power/cuckold esque plotline (they seriously wanted us to just accept the Mom almost cheated on him) it makes a bit of sense from Billy's standpoint since he has Mommy issues but its really unnecessary. If we did keep it, though, yeah I would just play it off as kind if a joke/them being a little awkward around each other. It's not uncommon for guys to think their GF's Mom is hot, and I've heard guys joke about it and even girls joke that their BF thinks their Mom is hot. I guess it would be something like Billy brings Nancy home to grab one of her guns or something and while she runs upstairs Karen and Billy are left standing around awkwardly followed by:
> KAREN: So, I guess she was your type, after all, huh?
> BILLY: Well, you know, Mrs. Wheeler. Maybe I just didn't see how much certain things...run in the family.
> *Karen blushes and turns away as Nancy comes back down the stairs, before looking between the two*
> NANCY: ...What?
> BILLY: Nothing, babe. Just saying: "Hi." is all. Come on, we better go get that brither of yours before he get up to too much trouble."
> *Billy pinches Nancy's ass, causing her to look back at him flustered on her way out.*
> *Billy pauses in the doorway, turns back around and smiles*
> "Goodnight, Karen."
> *Leaves*
> *In the upstairs bedroom Mr. Wheeler is polishing his glasses very intently, holding them afar as he tries to examine them for a sign of the most minute smudge*
> *Suddenly Karen launches herself on him from off screen*
> TED: "Ah! Karen, what the-hey!"
> Karen begins ripping his clothes off
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>>217234411
Why did he looks worse compared to S4?
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>>217234411
Why did he become the cs kohlfag?
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Here's a conformity gate thing that's been bothering me from the 8th ep:

1:08:01 - The Hand of Vecna is ripped off by Will as the camera tracks it
1:11:21 - The Hand of Vecna is no where in sight of this full scene shot when Will Walks in with his mom
1:12:47 - The Hand of Vecna on the left side again after his mom cuts off Vecna's head
1:12:59 - The Hand of Vecna is clearly in plain view of the same full shot angle as when will walked in

They make such a big deal showing the hand in those 3 scenes, but when Will and his mom walk in its missing from the 2nd scene, when the 4th is almost the same show where its there in its pool of gore. I believe the upcoming episode(s) show Kali was at play here. A dark interpretation I have is somehow Will and Vecna switch places. The Hand of Vecna is such a big deal in D&D and they make such a big deal of showing it finally get ripped off, go missing, then reappear
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>>217234459
Because ILM and Weta FX are overrated and overpriced and the relatively no-name VFX houses of previous seasons simply did a better job.
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>>217234411
> Mr. Whats-It being her jolly friend reading her bed time stories, giving her baths, making her cute outfits, and cooking her yummy food while she plays and is happy
> Slowly turning into a strict and abusive guardian as she gradually realizes something's wrong, having unexpected and frightening outbursts and forcing her to go through the motions of their previous activities despite her fear and discomfort; punishing her and stripping away her gifts and privileges until she's a frightened and battered prisoner
> This culminates in his Vecna reveal where he tentacle and mind rapes her into broken submission
> Eventually rescued by Max who saphically nurses her back to health and until they're discovered by Vecna who chases them and recaptires her as she's abandoned by Max and now hopeless
> Desperate, she hides in the cave where Vecna has a melt and turns back into boyscout Henry
> Holly comforts the sobbing boy and they become playmates before Mind Flayer finds them and forcibly turns him back into Henry, who resists as the Vecna tentacles seek to consume him and transform him back into a monster.
> "Fight it, Henry! I believe in you!"
> Henry looks to Holly with tears in his eyes
> "I can't."
> "Yes you can, I....I love you!"
> Holly kisses Henry and he begins glowing, his body breaking open to reveal a blinding light
> Mind Flayer: "No. NO! This is impossible!"
> Little Henry and Holly hold hands, theirbpowers combined finally vanquishing the Mind Flayer
> Holly and Henry live happily ever after
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>>217234411
They should've gone with a different look. I'm thinking sort of a mix of Ivan Ooze, the Crypt Keeper, and Goliath from Gargoyles and fully 1989's practical effects. That would've at least been kino and probably cut their budget into one one hundredth of what it actually was
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>>217220819
What's a P*d0ph!l3?
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>>217234895
The concept art designs for Vecna are what he should have looked like anyway, they actually look like a DND monster that could have been a human and they probably could have had one of those be his new form in season 5
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>>217234542
I just watched the scene. Honestly I think they just didn't care to keep it in continuity.
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>>217234552
> Industrial Light and Magic has become shoddy overpriced slop
That hurts.
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>>217234934
Someone's username or password maybe
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>>217235031
Seems like a pretty big fuckin deal it being the hand of Vecna, showing the blood mixed with sand etc. Hear me out: I believe the twist could be Kali has been working with Vecna this entire time for the sole purpose of doing the switch here as everyone gets the curse(or bare minimum Mike does). I've re-watched the scene a bunch of times with the idea at some point(I think when Will is experiencing pain in the cave/rune stone scene) Will has been transposed with Vecna. It really hits different. Also, it explains why he's such a lame duck against 11 when he wasn't in the previous two big duels they had. Because it isn't him, it's Will underneath a Kali illusion which then 11 spikes and Joyce then beheads her own son trying to tell her to stop. It certainly would set the horror tone for final episode(s).
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>>217235507
Give it up, man. It was just a shitty finale the duffers put little effort into, even the song choices.
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>>217235698
>Give it up, man.
I chose not to.
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Such a downgrade from season 4. Tyrant Vecna was cool and deadly, even human form from El's flashback was creepy. Season 5 Vecna:
Looks like a pedo
Gets YOUR MOM from Derek
Gets low diffed by Will
His plan is shit
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>>217235786
Very much a case of liking the actor and making room where he doesn't fit. Shame.
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>>217234019
>sound engineer
They weren't the sharpest this season. They added ejected brass dropping sound effects when Hopper shoots Vecna and hits the tank with El.

Hopper was using a revolver.
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Was scene in episode 6 when perm falling down on Jonathan face really necessary?
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>>217235878
I chalk that one up to Kali not knowing how guns work.
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>>217235507
Would be crazy and might even fit but it's over. Fun to dream though. I wouldn't mind coming up with our own ending
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>>217235786
I just don't see why they went she the Riddler from Gotham aesthetic for him. It's like they all forgot Tim Burton/Lemony Snicket was purposely doing a weird parody of how people looked back then and now that's all they know how to do. They could at least watch a 50's movie to get it right

Another reason a 50's prequel would suck. They wouldn't be able to portray it accurately because WHITE SOCIETY BAD so it would just be some weird parody that everyone would praise as being "so true!" untill people get a little too into it then they'll have to start saying: "why liking product is actually racist."
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>>217236899
They are never going back to it so you might as well.
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>>217235878
Only thing I could think is it's the new guy Angelo Palazzo
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I still need to ask: Where the fuck is Dart?
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>>217230872
>Literally "Don't ask questions. Just consume product, and then get excited for next product."
thats what the wwe is built around
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>>217234411
The scene where he shows up in episode 4 he should've killed someone. Then again in the final battle he should've been maiming and/or killing characters. He felt completely weak and pathetic with even the fat kid dabbing on him
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>>217219161
>Plus all those fan-meets at comic cons and stuff bring in a few hundred thousand a weekend
This is an insane overvaluing anon. Someone like him definitely doesn't bring in hundreds of thousands doing autographs at a 2 day con, let alone the fact that he obviously doesn't see 100% of the money anyway.
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>>217234191
Actually, I've got an idea. Maybe after Nancy gets fired from the post she runs into Billy and he seduces and possesses her. I'd have to double check the order of events but maybe they could replace the dinner scene where El and Max stumble on them with it being a dinner at the Wheeler house. It would up the stakes for the family getting roughed up and kidnapped and set the stage for Nancy to be getting messed with by Vecna next season as well as Holly in Season 5 if they kept that
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>>217237538
This isn't a great barometer but I used to know one of the members of the band The Summer Set and they've only got about 296k monthly listeners on Spotify and they were able to not only live off of their royalties as their only source of income but (even though they lived in an overpriced yet relatively reasonable 1-2 bedroom apartment in Hollywood) they were still traveling internationally and always doing stupid stuff and going to VIP parties and crap like that.

Joe's band has 4.4 million monthly listeners so I assume he probably gets the same or better royalties on top of his salary.

I'd have to count hiw often he appears in season 1 & 2 but even though its undisclosed he probably got the minimum for a named character with speaking lines which is around $10k an episode. He got $150k an episode for Season 3 (and was in every episode so about $1.2 million), he got $1.35 million in totak for season 4 and $6 million in total for season 5 which equates to about 8.71 million.

He lives in NYC and it was filmed in Georgia so thankfully he avoids California taxes and Los Angeles's millionaire tax, so realistically after tax he probably has around $3.6 million dollars minus his loving expenses over the last ten years plus the money he's made from his music and random tie in deals. Hes been in a bunch of other shows and movies though and gets a little bit of royalties from Dead by Daylight for using his likeness so I'm sure he's fine even if he's not buy an island or private jet rich. The main downside is he lives in NYC but I guess he must be having fun being a celebrity. If it were me I'd move to the middle of nowhere and buy a huge ranch and make my own fun.
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>>217237995
I'm not disagreeing about him having plenty of money, I just thought saying a couple of days at a comic con being 'a few hundred thousand' was a real overevaluation. He definitely has plenty enough to avoid the subway if he wanted.
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>>217236899
nice dubs. Check back after the weekend. There's far too much in that 8th ep to be coincidence.
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>>217237388
Dustin's pet demo dog from S2.
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>>217237995
I've never seen any celeb validate the figures thrown around online about what they have, what they don't or what they earn. It's all just speculation. There is no way of knowing.

Dude is probably just riding the subway because it's faster in many cases.
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>>217237388
Dart died with all the other demodogs when El closed the gate in S2.
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>>217238485
Ah, S2. Back when the upside down was toxic enough that hopper was dying in the tunnels and before S4 where you can vacation there.
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>>217238694
Also implied the demodogs dug the tunnels since Dart dug one out of Dustin's cellar.
>s5: will created them with his brain
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>>217235507
>Because it isn't him, it's Will underneath a Kali illusion which then 11 spikes and Joyce then beheads her own son trying to tell her to stop. It certainly would set the horror tone for final episode(s).
The problem is this runs counter to the entire theme the show has.
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Nell has a crush on Jamie Bower doesn't she?
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>>217219037
Tom hanks takes the NYC subway regularly. Keanun Reeves as well, when he is in the city. Both are worth far, far more than the stranger things cast.
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>>217239260
>i think we're alone now
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>>217227802
He really does look like he could be her dad
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>>217239445
>Both are worth far, far more than the stranger things cast.
KEKAROO!!!!
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>>217219037
dumb carbrained nigger americans
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>>217239692
It's time to make her a clone now.
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>>217238980
I simultaneously agree and disagree with you. On one hand yes, such a brutal event will be shocking and horrifying to most. But this is a show based on D&D. Prior to this 2nd volume coming out I'd predicted there would be some flipped or alternate version of the upside down that would be created by the kids themselves, but they would need a reason to go all in. Seeking a True Resurrection/Wish/Miracle to try to bring Will back would be such a cause. The whole meme about high level D&D goes batshit crazy and the players are OP: well we're right about there. They've also given clues that "this is the end of these characters and no one will see them again" and what not. I believe that one is going to be literally. Someway, somehow the band will seek to either go after whatever state Will is in (in the process deal with Henry/Kali/Mind Flayer etc) and most likely realize they can only do so by joining him.

Several times in season 5 they've made allegories to dying together and not wanting to lose one another. I believe this will be the crux of the drama of the final act and what they've been building for. What could be more D&D than the party sailing off into the multiverse/dimension x/the afterlife together having sealed away or vanquished the great evil? I'm aware this is a lot of reaching, but it seems fitting given they blew Avengers Endgame level money on this script and theoretically want to sell more movie tickets(or concession stand vouchers or whatever they are).
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>>217240500
Tom hanks is over $400 million
Keanu is $380 million
stramger things cast members are only $4 million per kid, $6 millon for david harbour.
Winona rider is at 18 million

So yes each actor mentioned above who rides the subway is worth more than the entire stranger things ensemble cast combined. Easily.
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Holy fuck this wont end
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Holly is for Henry('s tentacles).
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>>217238366
Same. Honestly though they don't want people knowing how much they have, and he probably just did it as a weird online publicity thing. His PR person told him he needed to seem relatable so to ride it for a stop. The person who took it probably wasn't even a candid person it was likely staged then disseminated
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>>217239260
Didn't she admit it in an interview?
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>>217219037
>he can buy 1 home in nyc
ummm ok?



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