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Gobekli Tepe, therefore it's real
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>>217224764
>Gobekli Tepe
Why does the mere utterance of this word send pompous academia into an uncontrolled fit of rage?
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Sorry, I cannot take the premise seriously, because Turkish sounds silly and ugly at the same time.
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You have to go back li tepe
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>>217224764
>Stargate thread
>derailed by ancient aliums bullshit in the first post
thanks OP
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Still no sci-fi-conspiracy-adventure franchise about Göbekli Tepe with Tom Cruise in the lead role.

They're afraid.

Therefore it's true.
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>>217225024
Do midwits really think all that shit encodes astronomical data?
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>>217224764
You shouldn't make fun of Graham Hancock. This man is very brave for challenging the archeological establishment.
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>>217224837
Because it throws off the narrative, and because their every attempt to block investigation of the site gets undermined by tourists.
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>>217225174
Were you there mate?
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>>217225189
He's very brave for marrying another species
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>>217225210
Were you?
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>>217225208
>narrative
which would be?
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>>217224988
Turkish sounds like if Elrond was japanese. very cool language imo just based on hearing them talk. I have two students who speak turkish together and it sounds like they're planning to conquer athens
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>>217225221
Civilization is 6000 years old and before that humans which were almost identical to us lived for 300k+ years as little more than animals
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>>217225221
See >>217225024
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>>217225024
based
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>>217225013
Stargate is based on ancient aliums tho, if I'm not mistaken specifically on Chariots of the Gods, a book written by Erich von Daniken which I assume was the inspiration for Daniel jackson
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>>217225246
Wait until you realize that everything we use today is the result of processes that were invented only a little over 100 years ago
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>>217225272
That doesn't give credence to modern humans existing for 300 000+ years without developing anything of note or without having a civilization. Quite the contrary actually
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>>217225303
It does because you don't understand what exponential growth is
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>>217225212
Based coloniser.
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GOOLD?
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>it's a grandpa Teal'c & Kawalsky find a ZPM episode
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>>217225189
He is insanely bullyable though. Have you seen how much he fucking whines about a bunch of nerds calling him a quack (with reasonable evidence for those claims too).
Every conversation with him is him crying that some fat old beard called him a bullshitter in some private lecture and that he cant be held accountable for his theories because hes just a journalist. Like anybody should respect a fucking journalist in 2026
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>>217225012
I see what you did there.
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iran is going to collapse today then we can send people there to dig it up without worrying about them getting
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my m*m had a melty yesterday because I didn't respond the way she wanted to her asking me about 'star trek is how they get us ready for the reptilians coming'
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Gobekli Tepe is just one of the more extreme examples of history and human progress in general being non-linear and that after gaining societal and technological complexity, that it can be lost only for it later to re-emerge after a period of 'recovery'.
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>>217225246
That sounds about right, except I think the shift started more like 10,000 years ago.
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>>217225511
Where's his tattoo?
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>think it's some awesome ancient monument because of these threads
>Look it up
>It's some fuckass pile of rocks among ancient mudhouses
Wooow so cool, how did they do that? I mean, stack two rocks on top of each other? Wow, must be aliens
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>>217226254
That's impressive for modern day turks
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Gaoold?
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>>217225823
It's just a bunch of rocks my dude
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>>217226254
Unironically in a few decades there will a significant number of retarded grown-up zoomers who will question how books were written before ChatGPT
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>>217225246
>Civilization is 6000 years old

At *least* 10000 years

Although I can't prove directly I'm 100% convinced that humans invented and reinvented "agriculture" (and through it, large-scale settlements that would count as a civilization) multiple times throughout prehistory before it started to become a long-term thing (with the freak stability that the Holocene provides - with one particular grand collapse around 8200 years ago as an exception).

I can go even crazier by saying that the Natufian culture was not an outlier at all. Unfortunately the sea levels rose by 60 meters between 12 kybp and 6 kybp so all archeological evidence I need is *below* the bottom of the sea and maritime archeology gets two pieces of string and a pack of gum as far as budgets go
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>>217225246
I've never heard of Gobekli Tepe, can you go into more detail about why it's significant and the conspiracy being talked about here?
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>>217226254
>Wow, must be aliens
literally no one claims that
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>>217227028
before younger dryas, did humans all have older wet ass?
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>>217225272
retard.
Your cpu runs on boolean algebra (1800s).
Your wifi uses euler's formula (1748)
The reinforced concrete buildings around you stand because of Newton mechanics (1600s) and Hooke's law (1600s)
And THOSE things didnt show up out of nowhere, they are built on top of even older science: greek astronomy (300 BC), sumerian geometry and base 12 math (5000 BC)
not even getting in the empiric materials science that give birth to the bronze age, iron age etc.
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>>217225210
Shut up Ridley
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>>217227173
My computer runs on chips invented in the last 50 years
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>>217227048
Basically, because the mainstream view is that during the period it was constructed(11,000 to 12,000 years old) humans were hunter gatherers without societies existing. The mainstream view is that the first civilizations appeared 6000 to 7000 years ago.
Gobelki Teppe being that much older puts that assessment into question.
The main "conspiracy theory" surrounding it was already mentioned itt by anons:
Modern humans (homo sapiens) with mental capabilities pretty much identical to our own existed on earth for at least 300 000 years. Mainstream archeology would have us believe that no civilization, no discovery, no writing, basically nothing at all was accomplished by those humans for ~294 000 years until 6000 or so years ago when we finally locked in and started to build and discover things.
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>>217227240
Oh ok thanks! Wasn't there another hunter gather society recently found as well that disputed that we only created civilization once we discovered agriculture?


Going off the graph here:>>217227028
Who's to say we haven't had multiple Holocene periods throughout Earth's life cycle?
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>>217227215
And do you thin that tech appeared out of nowhere? It's built on top of theories that are a lot older, and those older theories we dont know where they were built on, which suggests even older science
Your cpu is made using tech by ASML that depends on very old tech: mirrored lenses are something egyptians used 3000 years ago. Euclid in 300 BC wrote "Optica" that defines the light and geometry science that ASML still uses in their machines. The arabs wrote books on how to use lenses to manipulate lights a thousand years ago.
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>>217227240
you're coming at this backwards.
literally every archaeologist in the world accepts that anatomically modern humans have been around for 50k years at least and that they were up to stuff, its just the lack of EVIDENCE.
the tools and craftmanship available back then just wasnt meant to be preserved easily. if you don't work with durable materials then everything you create will rot beyond recognition sooner or later.
archaeologists speculate about all kinds of stone age cultures, and these humans back then obviously had stuff going on, language, thoughts, homes, societies, religion and cultures. but if you can't prove any of it because nothing survived until today then its useless for scientific purposes.
there is no grand conspiracy or narrative to protect, its just the reality of the world we live in, shit gets lost with time.
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>>217227122
there's tv show with 22 seasons that claims that
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>>217227173
What about the lost Atlantean technologies though?
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>>217226604
based GAOOLD poster
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>>217227430
I will only accept Atlantis as real if you can prove that they were white.
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>>217227334
>anatomically modern humans
Have been around for 700k year; the weird bit is that even fringe theories only have Behaviorally modern humans for a tenth of that time. Its probably due to the fact that proper language was a late development and we don't know why https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/166520v9.full
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>>217227374
You're confusing Ancient Aliens and Zecharya Sitchin stuff with the Gobelki Teppe crowd, like Graham Hancock who claim totally different things .
Graham Hancock believes there were advanced civilizations (akin to ancient Rome or maybe even more advanced) on earth before a great cataclysm wiped them out. The next generation of civilizations were seeded and helped along by the survivors and knowledge from those extinct older civilizations. He also has some more outlandish ideas but that is at the core of the Gobelki Teppe crowd
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>>217227461
you're in wrong thread. this is stargate thread and stargate is based on ancient aliens theory
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>>217224764
>Gobekli Tepe

That shit isnt even impressive

Everything there looks like a kid made its its crude and ugly

"its really old though"

No shit, who cares
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>>217225267
It's based on a mix of things
Stargates = 2001 a space Odyssey
Flying pyramids, Egyptian gods possessing people = Nikopol
Crazy snake cults = Conan the barbarian
Advanced cultures pretending to be gods= the man who would be king
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>>217227461
I'm inclined to believe this. The younger dryas impact raised sea levels rapidly and most societies are built on the coasts. Basically , the hillbillies of the advanced civilization up in the hills would have been the only ones to survive.
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>>217227510
based Nikopol knower
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>>217227510
Also the annunaki and Indus valley civilization
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>>217227334
>there is no grand conspiracy or narrative to protect
The establishment didn't react like there is no narrative to protect. It reacted in a quite peculiar manner for such a mild claim(human civilization might be older than we think)
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>>217227453
>proper language was a late development and we don't know
Random critical hit on the d10000000 genetic die. Speech is a nuclear bomb compared to lamer genetic mutations like claws or thermal vision.
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>>217227507
Still better than anything you could make with stone tools.
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>>217227453
>humans had the speach aparatus for 500k years
>scientist claim they started using it only 50k years ago because that's the oldest archeological evidence they can find
>they'll probably chimp out when someone will make a tv show claiming "hey, maybe they could've used it for far longer and time just destroyed the evidence"
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>>217227559
>Random critical hit
According to the theory I posted, the roll had to happen twice in immediate temporal and spatial proximity.
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>>217227552
Remember zionists beleive that Earth is only 6000 years old. They can't handle proof to the contrary.
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>>217227625
>>humans had the speach aparatus
Read up on feral children. They have "the apparatus" but have never been successfully taught to utilize language. Its weird.
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>>217227686
That is kind of incorrect tho. They are using the apparatus and often communicate in the way the animals they lived among communicate. Prehistoric humans lived among other humans, they weren't feral children living isolated among animals
There would have been no reason for that mutation to develop and persist for half a million years if it wasn't used, this is absolute nonsense that only a scientist could be so blind as to think is even remotely true
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>>217227753
>They are using the apparatus
To make noises that may even represent what we can nouns and verbs, not utilize the recursion necessary to distinguish between "dog bites man" and "man bites dog." Don't let English word order confuse you, all languages utilize these "spatial prepositions." And they can't be taught to do this after maturation of the prefrontal cortex (this is why I brought up feral children). Therefore adults cannot teach this behavior to their young if they themselves were not taught it.
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>>217227268
>Who's to say we haven't had multiple Holocene periods throughout Earth's life cycle?
We'd had them but they haven't lasted long. The Holocene is a blip in geological terms. Maybe we get fucked in a thousand years by a swing towards the ice age maybe in ten thousand by a swing in the opposite direction.
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>>217224837
>>217225208
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>>217227048
"Academia" has never separated as an institution from organized cults. The Vatican being one such cult.
Moneyflow has kept science under wraps with the help of organized schizophrenia.
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>>217227913
How do you know that ball the vulture is holding isn't my nutsack that traveled back in time?
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>>217227913
an ibis is not a heron
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>>217224764
>Gobekli Tepe
Abracadabbra?
Yabbadabado?
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>>217227930
You are Jewish
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>>217227817
The whole idea rests on the fact that the oldest archeological evidence they can find is 70k y.o. They have no way of knowing whether this is due to humans before that period lacking the imagination of later humans or whether the evidence and got destroyed, Then they use this flimsy conjecture to devise a whole theory using feral children as point of reference.
The whole thing is quackery, but hey, scientist need to pay bills too, how else are they gonna get those grants
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>>217227913
>posts schizo image
gottem
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>Oh no my shoe is untied
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>>217227240
>nothing at all was accomplished by those humans for ~294 000 years until 6000 or so years ago when we finally locked in and started to build and discover things.
when you compare it to that timespan, is extending the birth of civilization 4000 years back really that much of an unthinkable and earth shattering concept?
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>>217227173
We went from horse drawn carriages (before the Ford Model T) to space flight in the span of 60 years. The TCP/IP stack to LLM in 46 years.

It's not schizophrenic to think there was an outlier, an accelerator of technology that made this happen.
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>>217228027
honestly does it matter that much? is stacking stones civilization anyway.
i stack stones if there are stones to stack when adventuring through forests. if i had group of people we would stack even bigger rocks for sure.
maybe it's simply human nature to stack stones. rocks are everywhere and they beg to be stacked and sometimes rolled down hills because that's always fun
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>>217228322
Shut the fuck up retard
You need to fill out a civilization and society form before you can even think about stacking stones
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>>217227930
"cancer" is also often conflated as being a crab, when the word itself simply means crustacean due to referring to a hard-shelled animal.
The Ibis for the same sort of reason, became the designated animal of the myths associated with it because it fit the original mythic trope of the long-necked waterbird of the deads peoples wisdom.
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>>217227913
>Vatican being one such cult
Congrats on managing to be simultaneously reddit and schizo, I didn't think it to be possible
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>>217228468
sorry for not having a trope strawman that fits me. i'm sure it must be frustrating for a dogwhistle-brained retard like yourself.
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>>217228209
There was a comet impact before 1900 obviously, you fucking idiot
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>>217228358
but but the rocks and stack nooo
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>>217228588
wtf
how did you do this without AI????
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I do not care about Gobekli Tepe
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>>217228612
ugh took many try and many rockfiguration
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>>217228664
but what LLM did you use? let's set up a regular sync to touch base on this with our stakeholders.
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>>217228557
Who gives a shit about comets retardniggerfaggot. I'm simply stating there was an unnatural jump in technology compared to the previous 300000 years of human history.
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>>217228725
And I'm simply stating we were in the Younger Dry Ass period back then
Now we're all using bidets
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>>217228689
rockholders evil. take rock to stack rocks to sell
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>>217228725
>some illiterate schizo in 6000 years is going to claim ancient lmaos intervened with humanity because there was "an unnatural jump in technology during the XVIII-XX century"
You love to see it, kek
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>>217228741
dont you think prehistoric man channeled the power of the waterfall to spray water directly on his asshole. you fucking luddite
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>>217225331
FLINT DIBBLE WAS RIGHT AGAIN
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>>217228859
Then why do we call it the Dry Ass period?
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I’m a smoothbrain retard with too many chromosomes, someone please explain why Gobleki Tepe matters? All I know is that it’s an old settlement. Why does that matter?
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>>217228934
Archaeologists are hiding that it was originally called Gobekli Pepe
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>>217227453
Small population, mobile and intensely insular mini-cultures wandering around means everyone outside of your immediate family is not going to speak your language. That’s probably why it took so long. Even if a single word or phrase becomes common, it’s either going to die out or get replaced. PIE might’ve been spoken for thousands of years.
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>>217228934
It does matter, insofar as archeologist restructured their expectations about the ability of pre-agricultural & pre-sedentary humans to build intricate and complex structures, but schizos who have never read a single archeological book nor participated in excavations took that to mean that there is a conspiracy to hide (specially because the excavation of the site has been slow to avoid damaging stuff) the "fact" that ancient advanced civilizations existed, that aliens helped humanity and/or some other nonsensical stuff.
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>>217228934
>>217228954
Okay I’m sorry guys I read the thread and got the gist of things. So the crux of the Bad Man’s argument is that, “ancient cultures exist so aliens obviously exist?”
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>>217228934
tldr its a bunch of buildings the predate the other buildings, suggesting civilization is a bit older than there was previous evidence for.
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>>217229066
>>217229040
I’ve read enough Conan to know that an Age Undreamed Of existed but I wouldn’t exactly place it as some paradigm-shift in the way we approach the world.
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>>217229099
Grifters gotta make hype to sell their netflix show.
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>>217225212
Skeplets will claim he's a white supremacist, it's amazing
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>>217229099
Wait hold on, why aren’t more people having fun with the implication like this? Fuck aliens and gods, an ancient forgotten era of civilization is literally Conan’s Hyborian Age.
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>>217229154
>he doesn't know that white supremacists all have non-white gfs/wives
First day on the racist part of the Internet?
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>>217225246
>no major changes in human DNA for the past 50000 years
>people were effectively the same 44000 years before any civilization popped up
>people knew how to farm for 4000 years before they became sedentary
>people made a conscious choice not to adopt civilization because they knew that the majority of us would be the equivalent of peons serving some asshole with an over inflated ego
Civilization is a curse and retards like you spout it as some sort of saving grace. Congrats anon way to celebrate the chains you are wearing
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uhhh why did it take 3-4 BILLION years to get a human? what the fuck was life doing all that time? science cant explain this
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>>217228934
It is layers and layers of schizo mental illness.
You take people who don't know anything about history and then present history to them like some insane conspiracy theory that the man doesn't want you to know about.
To consider Gobleki Tepe a big deal you need to go in with the assumption that the pyramids are the oldest structures ever found and that archeologists are lying about the age of the pyramids and hiding even older structures. The importance of Gobleki Tepe hinges entirely on your mind being blown away by how old the pyramids are and then they go ''heh, but there is an even older structure!'' Which then makes you go ''WOW!! THEY'VE BEEN HIDING THIS FROM ME!''

Gobleki Tepe is consistent with what we know. There are even older structures that are now underwater. You can track the rise of civilization to the last ice age ending 11.6K years ago which made water rise rapidly and sunk the civilizations that lived near water. The oldest found structure is 11K old and in the Baltic Sea, it's completely underwater. We know that humans 11K years ago could build things and the earliest buildings got abandoned and were destroyed by tsunamis or went underwater. Gobleki Tepe was built 3000 years after that. You had 3000 years of progress with people going more inland away from the water and they built Gobleki Tepe.
There is not really much to it. It just shows how slow the progress for humanity was with small groups migrating very slowly after Doggerland went underwater.
Some people are shocked that 8K years ago people could build things.
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>>217229245
Even if you know how to farm, you have to take into account 3 very important things:
1.you have to slowly select for good seeds, plants and fruits
2.you have to learn weather patterns and general water management
3.you have to develop a social hierarchy capable of managing a sedentary lifestyle (and structures for it, everything from waste management, to division of labour -who is going to build the water management infrastructure?-, administration of grain)
All of these things were a first for our nomad hunter-gatherer ancestors.
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>>217229356
>3.you have to develop a social hierarchy capable of managing a sedentary lifestyle (and structures for it, everything from waste management, to division of labour -who is going to build the water management infrastructure?-, administration of grain)
You also need a social hierarchy to develop massive stone works like Gobleki Tepe and Stonehenge. It takes a lot of coordination to get people to move incredibly heavy stones and arrange them like that.
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>>217229431
Or maybe some faggots were bored while in the area and made some we wuz here thing.
We'll never know
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>>217229431
Way simpler than the one needed for permanent settlements, specially considering that it was evidently build in spurs. For example, you and your, presumably well-fed and bored out of their ass to be wasting time like this, tribe could theoretically do one of the circular enclosures working year by year (with little to no organization, relatively speaking slightly more complex than the spurs of the moment rescue and help groups created after a natural disaster) as some sort of ceremonial/ritual site. Which doesn't compare at all to the requirements of a forever settlement, which needs rigid hierarchies and slowly ossifying divisions of labour.
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>>217225246
This is a retard who doesn't know anything and can't think about numbers or put himself into the shoes of anyone.
Humans lived in very small groups in very harsh environments with no education. Anything that was discovered would soon be lost because you need someone to invent writing. If someone in bumfuck nowhere invents writing, this invention will die with him and it's unlikely he can convince his tribe of 10 people to learn writing and maintain the idea.
Humans were not a little more than animals. Humans wiped out entire species using tools. They were as intelligent as you can be living in the wild and not being taught anything except basic survival skills and how to communicate with other tribe's people.

Civilization had a very slow roll and was almost wiped out many times. Even before humans existed, there were primates just spinning their wheels for millions of years, able to build tools and more abstract things like necklaces.
It only picked up 40K years ago with the extinction of neanderthals. It seems like competition between neanderthals and homo sapiens pushed progress and they got absorbed into the gene pool along with their culture and technology.
After dealing with neanderthals humans had all these new tools and new territory which lead to agriculture.
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>>217229620
It also helped that the Last Glacial Maximum ended around the same time
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>>217229099
Based Conan fan. I too believe in the lost age.
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>>217229335
>ai ruins the sexy philtrum
I fucking hate grok
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>>217229620
Quality post.
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>>217224837
It doesn't, and you cannot provide an instance of this happening.
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>>217225208
Academia is literally the only reason you know that Gobekli Tepe exists and is important.
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>>217227240
There is nothing at all surprising about Hunter-Gatherers coming together to form long semi-permanent settlements.
This is well documented in the Pacific Northwest of America, where rich sealife meant that natives in the area could settle permanently in large villages while practicing little to no agriculture.
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>>217225246
The Last Glacial Maximum was 20,000 years ago.
Trying to start a large civilization that leaves trace evidence in a world that was so cold and dry would have been much harder.
Not to say that it didn't exist. But it would have been harder and less likely to leave evidence that we can dig up because progressing to megalithic carving or industry like metalworking that leave the best traces, would have been harder.

But if you take modern human history as starting 20,000 years ago, during our warm period, then progress is snappy.
By 10kYA, you're looking at large settlements by mostly hunter-gatherers, by 4kYA, you're looking at planned cities. That is quite quick.
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>>217231317
why didn't they just leave a text message or something
were they stupid
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>>217229590
You have never read a book on anthropology in your life.
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>>217227552
That is not Hancock's claim.
Have you read any of his books?
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>>217231758
Not that poster but I've read 3 of his books. He has a shitty meandering way of writing. He also gives more credit to tribal societies than they deserve.
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>>217231817
but it's the opposite of what university professors are teaching, so it must be true!
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>>217231758
hancock is constantly hiding behind common sense claims whenever his ludicrous bullshit speculation is challenged.
>Look this one thing i said is true and academia keeps slandering me! I'm just a journalist posing questions anyway!
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Hi schizos, I really like mesoamerican civilization, what schizo theories do you have about them? Genuinely curious
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>>217227028
Svalbaard seed vault?
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>>217231758
I have read Magicians of the Gods and Fingerprints of the Gods.
Since you asked, I looked up with a clanker to see if i missed some other claim in some other books but as far as I can see that is the extent of his claim>>217227461
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>>217229620
>humans lived in very small groups in very harsh environments with no education.
That's what the mainstream believes and that is what is being put under question by discoveries like Gobelki Teppe. Chimping out about it really doesn't help your case. And retards like Flint Dibble going on podcasts and lying about it is even worse
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>>217232694
White people built those. I am robert sepher pilled
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>>217231593
They did. The pyramids and other megalithic structures. But the current ""scientists"" are too stubborn to see it.
They'll look you in the eye and tell you stuff like that(pic rel) was made with copper tools by people that didn't even invent the wheel yet
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>>217227173
>wifi uses euler's formula
qrd?
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>>217231138
acedemia is paid six figure sums to cover up our true history and you're doong ground work for these demons for free kek
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>>217229245
im pretty sure this is straight up an orangutan with access to a computer
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>>217232694
They have mummies of white ppl with elongated skulls in Peru (not technically mezzamerica, but they're all latinx just the same).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwJB0rJxf5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAvI9496DPs
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>>217232694
Sure, here you go:

The Amazon river, like all great rivers (Nile, Eufrates, Ganges, Yangtze) must have had civilizations getting started around the same time as all the others: ~6000 ya (although as I have mentioned >>217227028 I believe its origins are even older than that, going back at least ~10000 ya, with the start of the Holocene)

However, the Amazon isn't like all those other rivers either, it's more like a massive basin, so it makes more sense for there to be an entire network of (smaller) civilizations all along all the branches. In addition, due to the more tropical nature of the environment (and the lack of grains) it would be closer to constant gardening rather than intense agriculture.
Unfortunately, jungle terrain is not as forgiving as desert and they mostly used perishable organic material (wood) even for monumental buildings - so most of it is gone, but should be easily visible via LIDAR.

oh wait that's not schizo because they actually did that and they found it, and the one on "top" is *only* 2500 years old so there's bound to be even older ones below because civilizations build atop each other, the dead are below us, we are a just the latest graveyard atop all other graveyards, the holocene is ending, CIVILIZATION WILL VANISH AGAIN WITHOUT A STABLE CLIMATE AND ONLY COME BACK ONCE (IF) IT STABILIZES AGAIN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS FROM NOW IF EVER, WE ARE THE EDEN SPECIES WE BELONG IN THE GARDEN NOT IN THE FIELDS, NO I WILL NOT TAKE MY MEDS
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>>217227334
I'm sorry, but this is the not the rationale of the archeologists and anthropologists who obstructed research into this. They are dismissing evidence which contradicts their theories, opinions, and beliefs. It's not a grand conspiracy, it's a shared interest in keeping their paychecks, their prestige, and their egos. It's not all or even most, but you find these people in every scientific field. There is a reason
>science progresses one death at a time
Is a saying, it's also known as the paradigm effect. Just another ugly side of human nature.
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>>217234837
nooo todd
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>>217224837
Because "established science" is stubborn and slow to change to accomodate new information and evidence. Dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor. Human civilization began 7,000 years ago in Mesopotamia. Blue eyes are a genetic accident. Humanity started in Africa. The Sphinx was built by Khufu and is no older than the pyramids. That's the end of it that they'll listen to.
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>>217232838
Schizo loser losing his mind.
Gebekli Tepe is consistent with everything we know and is new as fuck.
>you think civilization only started 40K years ago???? well what about this 11K year old building????
It's time to kill yourself
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>>217235051
Established history still says civilization began 7,000 years ago. Gogepli Tepe doubles that.
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Shows you how fragile civilization is.
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>>217232694
They had radio and electricity and were on open mic at all times into the earth which is what let Spain who had similar electrical and radio technologies triangulate in and destroy them and raid back the superior pre-flood temple works in south america back to spain

PLUS ULTRA
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>>217224837
It doesn't. Go to google scholar and search Gobekli Tepe and you will find thousands of articles on it. Where do you think grifters like Hancock gets his information on them from?
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TOMMY USED TO WORK ON THE DOCKS
UNION'S GONE ON STRIKE
HE'S DOWN ON HIS LUCK
IT'S TOUGH
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>>217234855
Wrong wraith
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>>217236469
Sex with Weir
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>>217236891
Are weird in stargate atlantis and event horizon related?
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>>217233431
when there is a watershed moment that opens up new discoveries in an established field, it is 100x more likely for the "old guard" to use their weight and influence to steal discoveries away from the new guys.

nothing gets buried. they will put THEIR names on the new research papers and spearhead the entire thing and pretend they always did.
new theories and evidence gets discussed in academia all the time, and most of the time these things are evalued on their own merits. no good archaeologist has any emotional attachment to their theories and they would literally salivate at the mouth if there was credible evidence for a pre-ice age advanced civilization, to be first on the scene and claw at nobel prizes.
governments and universities have no intention to "hide" evidence either, imagine being the country where this civilization was located and the nationalist bragging rights from becoming a cradle of civilization, they would throw money and manpower at this shit for years.

>inb4 wegener and semmelweiss
their theories turned out to be correct, but at that time they had no evidence for them and couldnt prove the underlying mechanisms how continental drift or bacterial infections were supposed to work, THIS is why they were discredited. it was the right call at the time to not accept them, because they were just floating ideas like everyone else, no evidence.
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dis nigga been in Amanda Tapping's house >>>/diy/2966708
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>>217224837
because the academia that discovered and actually spent decades studying the site is sick and fucking tired of a bunch of armchair know-noting pseudo archaeologists on the internet spouting endless bullshit about the site that isn't based in reality?
Same goes for gunung padang and all the absolute bullshit made up about it.
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>tfw its a rats infesting Atlantis and coming at me through the walls episode
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>>217224764
would you a young dr weir?
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>>217227128
Yes what did you think the soggy bottom boys were
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this sg thread was very lame, nothing but archaeological dorks



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