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Tying Tuktirey to the back of a jet turbine!
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what a bunch of hippy dippy baloney
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>>217271490
How's it looking? Is a billie enough the get the next movie?
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What killed the dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE
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https://youtu.be/WaczTy_GkxY?si=Kw4FjsfQ7E3u0YWE

Listening this while sleeping. We're going home
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>>217271542
They're too small
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Cute couple.
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>>217271490
What the fuck, isn't this shit supposed to be CGI?
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>>217271569
AI slop messes up again
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>>217271530
>In the sequel, Jake must leave and take Neytiri from her beloved Jungle to the ocean she hates
>In the sequel, Quaritch must leave and take Varang from her beloved Fire to the Cold she hates
it's like poetry
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>>217271609
It's AI slop
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>>217271521
Disney's pretty tied into Avatar now. They've got the Pandora section of Disney World, they just put out a AAA game that's having a surge in popularity because of the movie and the new DLC, and Fire and Ash will hit $1.5 billion, which is very very far from a bomb. If Cameron is telling the truth that Disney loves the script for 4, I'd say there's a 100% chance he gets the green light.

Ironically, I think Fire and Ash is being hurt somewhat by the normies this time rather than helped. Their friends are telling them it's pretty much the same as the last one with more whales, more ocean, more maori na'vi, and a big ocean battle at the end again.
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>>217271650
They might do that. Jake and Neytiri parallel Quaritch and Varang a lot. It's almost like from the WoW onwards we see a slower twisted version of Jake's arc from A1.
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>>217271569
Zoe is based and obviously loves Neytiri as much as we do, if not more.
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>>217271677
I told that to my friends after watching The Return of the King. It was pretty much the same as the last one with more horse people, more plains, more evil mountains, more orcs, and a big charge battle at the end again.
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>>217271741
>ghostwritten foreword on some book paid for by the publisher
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>>217271677
Maybe should had called it Way of the Fire or something, so people know it's a second part of the last movie.

I think it was a mistake to split 2 and 3 into two movies but i guess jimbo had too much content he wanted to use. Gotta respect the autism
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>>217271695
>Quaritch and Varang screw and bear a child
>Suddenly Quaritch starts to get it and begins to have a conflict of interest with the RDA
>Kid inevitably has a Neteyam moment at the climax but is saved by the Sullies instead of being killed off
>They all sing kumbayah around the fire
Hire me Jimmay
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>>217271772
It's been said several times that Avatar movies is something special, the crew are on record saying that they are a tightly-knit group of people with similar vision and it's more like filming indie movies with giant budgets than giant hollywood blockbusters, and it all thanks to Jim's vision. It's obvious that these people enjoy making these films and that they actually like each other
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>>217271824
if you don't think this ends with humans winning you haven't opened a history book.
we will crush the navi, destroy eywa and colonize pandora.
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>>217271887
I dunno. Humans in this are plot stupid, Eywa will pull some nature magic bs at some point, like a planetary railgun made of vines and shit and shoot down ISVs in orbit
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>>217271887
The Na'vi will concede and let the allied humans stay in Bridgehead after BTFO'ing the RDA because it's too late to do anything about that
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>>217271887
>and destroy pandora*
the point is that Humans can't go anywhere without consuming it all and leaving it a barren hellscape. Even if it's a paradise world and so very rare they haven't found any others so they need to move there
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>>217271885
Why is Lang's handle highlighted?
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>>217271598
I think it's interesting that Kiri is so human despite having this seemingly direct connection to Eywa. She's not very physically capable, she has a human mother, she loves the human boy she grew up with, and she seems to have a very human temperament where she's happier laying in fields and watching animals rather than parkouring around the jungle diving off cliffs and shooting arrows and racing ikran
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>>217271530
>Avatar 4: Fire and Ice
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>>217271786
The original title was The Seed Bearer.
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I need more Avatar content to consume. I'm just binge watching Avatar lore/timeline videos on youtube. Where can I read the comics?
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>>217271959
>it's paradise because there's a few trees and wild animals
fuck that, give me an urban landscape with technology where i can't get eaten by some stray animal, have easy access to food and don't die of cold in winter.
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>>217271885
she's holding her womb because Slang planted his seed in there
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>>217272123
he's hover handing
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>>217272116
They retconned how dangerous Pandora is. It's pretty much just the Garden of Eden now.
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>>217272143
it's hover
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>>217272096
Many of the comics aren't really canon
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>>217272096
The comics have ugly art, try the game maybe
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Maybe I'll torrent the movie. I want to watch it again
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>>217272151
it's still dangerous for people that haven't lived most of their lives there.
Lo'ak almost gets eaten by a squid for going out to sea
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>>217272400
Go pay for a damn ticket so we get 4 and 5
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>>217272151
>>217272404
He also almost gets eaten by a fish in the 2nd movie, Pandora only looks safer because we spend more time in populated areas and in large, armed groups
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>that interview where Lang describes how amazing Oona's blowjobs are
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>>217272504
>Worthington having fun
Damn
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>>217272096
>I need more Avatar content to consume
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>>217272404
Without plot armor, Lo'ak really should have died there. He usually runs off all alone and he intended to do the same here. But just this time, all the kids follow behind just far enough behind to stay out of sight. Lo'ak's brilliant plan to find Payakan would have resulted in him becoming squid food. It's a pretty silly scene too. They ascended from the depths to "test him" by eating him? wtf?
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>>217272587
>They ascended from the depths to "test him" by eating him?
The test was whether he had found true companions who would save him despite his folly. He passed.
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>slowing down Humanity requires a literal deus ex machina
>three times
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>>217272720
>humanity picks a fight with god
>wtf how was I supposed to know there would be divine intervention woooow bugged deity mechanics!
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desu I think the franchise lost steam.
I saw it 3 days ago and barely remember anything, Besides being annoyed by muh hippy nature magic bullshit constant forcing and that main villain crazy fire alien bitch just fucked off in the end lmao. That was so bad.
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>>217272096
Do you not know how to torrent?
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the blue hippies are lucky that avatar humans are not the wh40k humans
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>>217272798
How would you have played it out anon
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>>217272845
faghammer is cringe
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>>217272845
What a completely pointless post
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What is the point of avatars when recoms are a thing? I don't really get it
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>>217272874
Avatars were scientists, recoms were soldiers. Jake was an exception because his brother died.
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>>217272863
dunno. maybe she needed to sacrifise herself for langs blue avatar, just for drama. Or betray him cowardly. Not just be gone off screen because she lost battle of ponytail,
Besides, in general its getting very stale with the whole LMAO MUH NATURE MAMA WILL PROVIDE DEUS EX MACHINA yet again, plus sully and lang fighting in the background.
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>>217272874
avatars are older tech. It also avoids the existential dread and legal headache of having a copy of you but blue running around
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>>217272864
yes. but I actuall was so tired of muh spiritual oogas boogas, that I wanted the whole thing just glassed or razed by 3m tall space xenophobe crusaders
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>"Neytiri's battle costume represents a turning point in her personal journey as she makes a conscious decision to trust again and to choose vulnerability in the face of pain"
God I love Neytiri. Best female protagonist of the last 15 years
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>>217272720
You're mad that the hunter gatherer savages are realistically portrayed as unable to defeat interstellar humans with bows and arrows unless assisted by divine intervention? You really just crave to complain about something.
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>>217272942
I need a complete expert breakdown of every Neytiri outfit across all 3 movies
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>>217272845
Souless
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>>217272798
This is why fans shouldn't be writers
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>>217272942
Jake is so lucky, bros...
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>>217273018
>You're mad
No, I find it hilarious. I guess the tone of my post was not clear
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>manners, body language and even the weapons are Oona's own work on the character
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>>217272936
>>217272909
>>217272798
Remember that Jimbo panders to mouthbreathing popcorn-flick tourists like these more and more with every instalment because he can get more money for less effort
Avatar 4 will have Subway Surfers gameplay on one side of the screen and Minecraft parkour on the other in between fight scenes
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>>217273083
so, you're satisfied by her just running away offscreen because she lost 10 second long hair battle and with sully and kworitch lackluster fistfight nr3?
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>>217272845
You're a fag if you like 40k. But you're lesser faggot compared to those that like Trench Crusade.
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>>217273264
nigga, you think avatar was anyway deep? jimbo just getting more lazy on his own merrit. He can't even deliver memorable action scenes no more, its more of the same shit + even more hippie magic asspulls. He can't even be bothered to tighten up loose ends.
Cameron simps are retards
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>>217273277
Her running offscreen is probably going to line up with her picking up Quaritch after his jump. We will probably see that if the next movie comes out.
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>>217271786
Way of Water is actually 3rd or 4th film. The original sequel was High Ground and it was about Jake preparing for the invasion. For some reason Cameron didn't adapt it in the 2010s.
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>>217273277
nta but yes she is a coward who is all posturing
did you not watch the movie at all
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>>217273343
Actioniggers should perish in a fiery kasplosion
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>>217273367
that is so fucking obvious and lazy, I wish this shit wasnt true and this cartoon would just end. I'm baffled that you nogs defend this
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>>217273277
Yes? You would run away shitting yourself too if the God you think doesn't exist suddenly empowered a person with magical spells to do impossible things, to control animals, and to easily rape your mind
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>>217273430
That's good, sweaty. You can head on back to the marvelslop that meets all your amazing storytelling requirements.
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>>217273439
NNNNOOOOO but you don't GET IT anon!!! It has to be COOL and pander to MY FANFIC or else it's BAAAAYAAAAD!!!!!1!!1!eleventyone!!
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>>217273400
you retarded or have comprehension problems? avatar can't be praised neither for deep plot, twists nor for memorable action. It literally has only pretty visuals. Always had.
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>>217273279
Liking 40k is perfectly fine if you enjoy it for being a fun, tongue-in-cheek sort of heavy metal fantasy that a 12-year-old would come up with. People who take 40k seriously and admire the Imperium unironically are just sad.
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>>217273472
>double negative
holy esl
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>>217273439
>Yes?
The answer why those empty movies work...No need to search further.
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>>217273490
The entire Indian subcontinent should be rangebanned but until that day comes (Inshallah) we have to put up with Ranjesh's melties
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>people praising and defending this empty borderline cartoon shlock
its not 2008, you dumbfucks.
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>>217273506
>>217273537
Your use of the word "empty" is a strong identifier. Vary your vocabulary to avoid immediate detection.
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>>217273489
40K started taking ITSELF seriously like 10-15 years ago which is why you see the slow creep of the Imperium acting more unambiguously heroic like rescuing civilian populations and nowadays being allies with xenos against Chaos. Now watch this drive.
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>>217273490
OH YOU SO GOT ME LOLOLOLO
still, avatar is so god damn bad
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>>217273537
I'm having fun and you're not doe
Seems like a you issue chopped unc
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>>217273575
>opinion
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>>217273558
yes yes, of course
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>>217273642
>Noise doesn't align with the rest of the image
>Conveniently cropped
I too can open MS paint
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>>217273642
Low effort.
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>>217273642
Bring back the IP counter cowards
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>>217271490
>>217271609
Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana can just morph into the characters. Cameron only gives you that ability after making a 2nd Avatar movie with him.
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Cameroncultists on suicide watch
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>>217273537
Anon, we get it, you don't like these movies and find them empty. You can just fuck off now, this is an /afag/ discussion threat and we mostly do like Avatar here
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>>217271598
Why do I have a feeling that it won't be Loak who succeeds Jake? I think that if a new Toruk Makto is ever needed, Spider will take on that role while Loak goes his own way. It would also be a great way to show the na'vi that humans can be part of Pandora.
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>>217273743
?
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>>217273796
>Why do I have a feeling that it won't be Loak who succeeds Jake
Almost impossible at this point to do something else. He's already being set up as a fuckup who will turn into a capable, competent leader in time.
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"Fans" should REALLY not have any contribution to the story. 3 was perfect in what it tried to do, to stick to landing on all of the character conflicts set up by 2.

It seems that people are hung up on the stagnation of the broader interspecies conflict more than anything in their criticisms, because the movie does deliver full closure on the characters' behalf, on the interpersonal conflict, the crux of these movies (Avatar 1 is a love story essentially, just with a heck of a coat of paint, the sequels are too but expanding on the familial side of it). It could have no more movies and it would have tied all the loose characters' ends. All the groaning I've observed usually stems from people who aren't trying to engage with the sequels for what they are, essentially very well put family drama-action movies, instead holding a preemptive grudge because their sensibilities are lame and shallow and the director is moving away from those. They want a spectacle with unconditional, absolute closure on all fronts, immediately. It's why bitter endings are a big, rotund "NO" in Hollywood.

The worst of it all is that it seems people are unable to just sit down, relax and enjoy the moving feast. It's a tiring combination, that audiences are shallow and at the same time lack the humility to put their preconceptions aside, if only to take the movie at face value, for what it is, not what they think it should have been. I blame the jews.
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>>217273906
I think the problem stems from Avatar as a franchise being stuck in the box office bitch cage. Granted, I doubt it would rake in as much, but I don't think the sentiment that it would benefit more plot-wise from being an episodic series is particularly uncommon
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>>217272798
It felt like it needed Star Wars or LOTR style closure to end on a satisfying note. Too many threads were left opened:
>Quaritch arc still unresolved
>Kiri and Eywa still unexplained
>Spider is now a human na'vi and the humans know it
>Kiri and Spider romance
>Jake and Lo'ak conflict kind of hand-waved
>Varang still alive
>Bridgehead still impregnable
>Earth still sending more people
Neytiri's arc with Spider was completed, Jake became Toruk Makto again, and the Tulkun abandoned pacifism. That's all great, but it feels like we opened 2 larger and more important threads for every one that got resolved
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>>217273980
No, these things need to be seen in a big fucking screen with big, state of the art sound systems. It elevates the experience so much more. I think this applies to pretty much any movie, but these ones especially since they're so, both visually and auditorily, layered and detailed.
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>>217274013
Feel like the tulkun being more aggro will play apart in bridgehead somehow. Like for that big circular infrastructure in the water
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>>217272874
RECOMs are a direct result of Grace's research and creation of the Avatar program. The RDA is a corporation at the end of the day, and they're not wasting billions of dollars invested in creating the lab farms for artificial Na'vi bodies so willy-nilly.

So they came up, looked at it and said "yknow we can make our own supersoldiers out of this" and that's how you get the RECOMs
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>>217274070
The Tulkun shouldn't be able to do anything now that their aggression is known and not a surprise. They are extremely vulnerable to sonar and the humans could pulverize them with high powered sonar pings. Powerful enough to make them deaf and destroy their brains
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>>217274053
The solution? Everyone should be investing in immersive home cinema experiences
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>>217273906
I think some people don't find what they're looking in these movies, they want diverse action and the overall Humans vs Pandora plot moving forward, not character and family drama. I understand the frustration, but as it happens, I fucking love to watch slow character development and satisfying personal conflicts being resolved, so I get exactly what I want from these films. I could watch 3 more hours of the Sully family drama and Quaritch character journey ant not get bored because I like them all and want to see how they evolve.
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>>217274115
They shouldn't but the humans in this are so incompetent that I dunno.
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>>217274013
>Jake and Lo'ak conflict kind of hand-waved
It would be kino if Jake finds out about it in A4 by accident. Parents often don't know for many years what they're kids are going through as teenagers.
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>>217274107
>"yknow we can make our own supersoldiers out of this"
it's probably the worst use of the tech. Imagine copying the mind of some ultra-savant and having an army of super researchers
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>>217274013
>>Quaritch arc still unresolved
He's dead. Very probably dead, so dead.
>>Kiri and Eywa still unexplained
Everything was explained, she's the daughter of Eywa.
>Kiri and Spider romance
Sibilings with benefits, get over it.
>>Varang still alive
KWAB whore did her part and left.

All of these have been closed, unless 4 picks up on them. Canonically, as of yet, they're done.
The others I agree are yet to be fulfilled but that's not the main focus anyway.
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>>217274165
That would be a legal nightmare in terms of recognizing personhood. I don't think they would be allowed to have more than one clone per deceased individual at a time
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Since quaritch will likely go awol of not dead, whose gonna be the next big antagonist? Maybe John RDA arrives in the next ISV run
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>>217274197
They would never kill KWABitch off unless it was deemed absolutely necessary to further the plot, and this is just the beginning of his passport bro arc
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>>217274197
>He's dead. Very probably dead, so dead.
Impossible. It kills his entire plot of discovering himself as a new being.
>KWAB whore did her part and left.
Retarded. You don't waste a character like this.

Time and time again the audiences prove that they shouldn't be trusted writing a school play.
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>>217274197
if he's truly dead then the series is ruined for me. everything was set up for him to betray the RDA
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>>217274223
Sure but we're talking canonically here. She KWABTFO (KWAB'd the fuck out) and as it stands, is no longer relevant, unless you employ meta-reasoning as you are (irrelevant to canon) or until 4 comes, if it does, and she's back.
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>>217274165
They're basically Space BlackRock, I don't think the RDA cares about the legality of anything at this point. They were given a clear directive for Pandora "Make it ours" and they're using that legal void to their advantage.

That's why you can headcannon why all their equipment has stayed almost the same since AV1, they're given equipment and tech made for On-Earth operations and the minimal investments in new Tech are very specific.
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>>217274231
Canonically. Key word here. The planned saga has 5 films. But canonically, the ending of 3 is what matters right now, and per cinematic insinuation, he's *canonically* dead, and she's abandoned ship indefinitely. Hopefully the following installments will get made and we'll get a more fleshed out development on both accounts, but as it stands, the saga could end here and we'd have few threads dangling left, only the interspecies conflict really and very minor aspects.
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>>217274197
>He's dead. Very probably dead, so dead.
Of every film character with an ambiguous death, Quaritch is the most obviously alive of them all
>Everything was explained, she's the daughter of Eywa.
She's a clone of Grace created and given special powers for some as yet unrevealed reason
>Sibilings with benefits, get over it.
Can they have children? If they do, what are the children going to be? The na'vi are just going to accept a na'vi having a romantic relationship with a stock human?
>KWAB whore did her part and left.
Of all the most obviously returning-in-the-next-movie characters ever put to film, Varang is the most obviously returning of them all
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>>217274197
>He's dead. Very probably dead, so dead.
Quaritch came back from the dead in the first movie and escaped certain death in the second. Why would they kill him now if his storyline is still unresolved?
>Sibilings
Lmao
>KWAB whore did her part and left
If Quaritch returns, as is certain to happen, she will too.
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>>217274222
Likely that, the RDA is already going full damage control mode and they'll probably look for a different method of establishing their goals now that they finally understand the costs of asserting themselves through force are outweighing the benefits due to the constant local pushback every time they try
I doubt they can contain the narrative in their image for long either so they'll resort to tending to the part of the garden that's closest instead and focus on developing bridgehead into an actual self-sustaining city by raping the immediate vicinity of its resources
>>217274223
>Jake went native because he learned to love and appreciate Na'vi culture
>Quaritch went native because Varang is hot and pushes all the right buttons
Thanksgiving gonna be real awkward for Spider
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>>217274327
>but as it stands, the saga could end here
Oh, you're one of those
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>>217274120
>I think some people don't find what they're looking in these movies
That's the thing, they put up a barrier preemptively and fail to engage with it even on grounds of neutrality, it's like good faith never even entered the conversation. I like giving movies the benefit of the doubt, I don't always manage to, but you'd think something as distanced from current year politics and universal as this wouldn't at least be given some credit beforehand.
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>>217272798
Not this I don't remember shit again.
I could believe it with TWoW but no with FaA.
Go check yourself on dementia, faggit.
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>>217274401
I want it to keep going. I'm saying Cameron's statement of all threads but one being closed is true, for the most part.
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>>217273796
Lo'ak is the whale man with a reef clan wife. He's going to stick to the seas.
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>>217274369
>Of every film character with an ambiguous death, Quaritch is the most obviously alive of them all
>Of all the most obviously returning-in-the-next-movie characters ever put to film, Varang is the most obviously returning of them all
meta reasoning, irrelevant.

>She's a clone of Grace created and given special powers for some as yet unrevealed reason
She was fecunded by Eywa's seed, literally and figuratively. Eywa is the "father", Grace the mother. That's why she has the powers, she's Eywa's presence personified to shift the tide as Herself did before.

>Can they have children? If they do, what are the children going to be? The na'vi are just going to accept a na'vi having a romantic relationship with a stock human?
Irrelevant speculation.
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>>217273881
>He's already being set up as a fuckup who will turn into a capable, competent leader in time.
Perfectly compatible with what the other guy said. He can be Tulkun Makto instead. I want to see Spider riding the Toruk.
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/afag/, I want you to meet my wife.
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>>217274144
The humans are only incompetent on screen. Since there is a time skip, they'll be super competent off screen and decimate the entire region of Na'vi and Tulkun driving them to flee hundreds of miles to the cold areas
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>>217274522
She looks like she fucks human men
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>>217274327
He's alive in the latest Frontiers of Pandora DLC, which is canon
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>>217273070
she's a pretendian
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>>217274582
man*, and you'd be right, because it's me. don't get any ideas, pal!
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>>217272175
Why is she calling that black guy a pink skin?
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>>217274611
Because the alternative is calling him an ape
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>>217274593
True
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>>217274593
Ubisoft ruining things yet again.
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Earth fucking sucks bros I want to live on pandora
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Oona sex
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>>217274700
You say that until you realize you have to shit in a ditch instead of in a toilet
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>>217272409
I've seen it 3 times in theater but I've got Regal Unlimited so only paid total of $9 for the two premium tickets. I don't like 3D because the glasses make it so dark
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>>217274733
Is that his only shirt?
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I know I'm supposed to be like "WOW THE NA'VI AND NATURE ARE SO BEAUTIFUL AND WONDERFUL" but literally all I took away from this movie was that the Na'vi are dirty, savage beasts and that the humans should win
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>>217274826
It's the only one he probably wears because he's autistic
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>>217274826
HE HAS DIED LIKE A DOG
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>>217274832
Is that really what people got out of this? I thought the whole point was that the Na'vi are stagnant and that humans are just making things unnecessarily harder than they have to be.
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>>217271490
>blue light, the movie
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>>217274611
The real pinkies have assured her he's the same species as them, as strange as that seems to her.
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>>217274832
Idk man. I think the whole Na'vi are savages idea tends to leave your body when you see the literal mountains of lard masquerading as humans and the sheer retards you meet on the internet.
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>>217274611
>hands off my bow, black skin!
Would be kino and not even that racist
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I want an alien wife like Varang but I look like Jabba.
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>>217274582
you think any of the troops fucked an ash chick?
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>>217272942
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>>217275132
They no doubt tried to court them, we get a few hitting on a disguised Neyney when she's infiltrating
I don't think anything fruitful came out of it though
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>>217275107
Hit the gym and eat less carbs?
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>>217275072
>Varangyasha, sit!
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She deserves a rich character arc
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>>217275294
She will spread her fire to the coldest places
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>>217275294
GIWTWM bros, it's not fvcking fair...
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>>217275294
yes as my wife
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>"the murdercopter needs like two triple racks of dumbfire rockets"
>"ok"
>"and also a flamethrower"
>"ok"
>"and also like six miniguns pointed front and down"
>"do we want to have one that points up so it can engage enemies above it?"
>"are you retarded? why would we ever need that?"
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>>217275347
>"do we want to have one that points up so it can engage enemies above it?"
This is intentional, Toruk never looked up either and that's how Jake tamed him.
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>>217275294
Great art, but the size difference is too big. Na'vi are not this giant compared to humans, unless she's holding Warwick Davis
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>>217275038
It's weird they didn't do anything with Ronal and Kiri after she saw her controlling the fish in that one scene underwater.
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>>217275391
I think it's less the size and more the thickness. If she was drawn more twiggy like it would work. You can use the frame were Neytiri cradles human Jake for scale.
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>>217275404
Thank fuck for that, I lost braincells every time that bitch was on screen.
James Cameron was pooping on my butt with her, what was he even thinking?
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>>217275454
He wanted the Titanic chick. But no boobs this time so sadly bad show.
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>>217275038
What’s this from?
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>>217275488
Deleted scene from Way of Water
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>>217275366
Turok is an apex predator that other animals avoid because they know they can't overpower it.
The Sky-dragon is a gunship built by humans to be used against an enemy that's confirmed multiple times to use air assets for overhead ambushes. We figured out in the 1920s to give large and slow aircraft dorsal turrets because enemy fighters would attack from above.
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>>217274826
He spent the rest of his money on submarine parts
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>>217275038
No wonder Neytiri hates that fish bitch so much
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>>217275347
Command issue. They should have just flown higher until the skies were clear.
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>>217275294
We need a flashback of loli Varang surviving the volcanic eruption and becoming the leader
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>>217275658
>Leaves to go piss
>Volcano erupts
>Comes back to pompeii
>"EYWA HAS FORSAKEN MEEEEE I HATE EVERYTHING"
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>>217272175
>>217274611
Jake never thaught her race realism.
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>>217272175
So have any Na'vi been to Earth?
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>>217275714
These shit takes are so tiresome.
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>>217275751
no. There's never been any reason for the RDA to take one back. Every ounce has to be calculated for the return journey. So dragging back a single 400lb alien who can't breath our air is kinda useless when we could bring back 400lbs of refined magic moon rock.
Though it would be interesting if some ultra-rich mega investor bribed the RDA board to kidnap a na'vi and bring it back to earth so he could keep it in a personal zoo or something.
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>>217275716
It was never about eywa for varang and if her backstory is ever touched upon beyond a few passing lines it'll be evident
Mangkwan were always aggressive even before her and probably had a very skewed view on eywa to begin with, the volcano was just the straw that broke the camel's back
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>>217275751
they've smuggled some pandoran fish tho
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I'm not the dorsal weapons autist but it would have been better to show humans adapting like that, it's not like they couldn't still lose.
>halfway through the aerial descent in the initial ambush the fleet detects the ikran riders (instruments are down due to flux), opens fire and drops several; this ultimately doesn't matter, the Na'vi already get routed in the film and no exact losses are ever tracked
>when Toruk grabs the Dragon, you could have him raked by dorsal weapons fire on the descent, but he just tanks it and ultimately survives it due to being massive and evolved for sustaining and healing injury; ultimately it just makes his independent action more badass
Literally doesn't even have to change anything, just gives the humans more of the credibility they've become short on.
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>>217275195
well the ash na'vi can't speak english, to begin with
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>>217275714
>I wish to live peacefully with my wife and kids
>NOOOOOO HOW THE FUCK IS SHEKELBERG SUPPOSED TO EARN MONEY FROM THAT FUCK YOU I HATE YOU SO MUCH

why are avatar haters like this?
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>>217271598
Unless you are gunning down people in the Sahel who are slowing down gold shipments to Moscow.
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>>217275751
Yes, they stole an ISV and took the fight to the place the humans would never expect: Earth. It was so crazy, it just barely worked.
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>>217275840
>Teaching them obscenities and passing it off as greetings
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>over 130 millies on fourth weekend, mostly international whereas domestic's legs have given out
>270 millies left until 1.5 billie
Think we hit it the seventh weekend or the eighth?
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>>217275714
>>217275753
>>217275868
The worst things about these "reviews" is that they are dishonest ragebait in most cases. At least people like Doug Walker seem to sincerely hate these movies and they honestly don't understand why people like us here love them. I mean, if you think that Avatar movies are worse than Jurassic Park sequels, then these films are clearly not for you, but I can respect the sincerety.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJr0FZ6a-EE
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>>217276233
Oh goodie
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>>217276204
I've seen the stuff he likes, so his opinion on what's good is worthless
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>>217276182
How do they have the weekend numbers already when today is Sunday?
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>>217276271
What's the stuff he likes? Genuinely curious what he considers good if he hates Avatar with passion.
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>>217276388
They predict Sunday based on Friday and Saturday for gay journo reasons, but the difference is usually negligible.
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>>217276414
His favorite movies of all time include
>The Dark Knight
>Tim Burton's Batman
>Across the Spiderverse
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>>217271530
How will the Sno'vi differ from the others?
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>>217276581
They are Sapmi and Inuit stand-ins and they eat the foulest shit on all of pandora
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Just came back from the local kinoplex, good movie
One question, is it ever stated why Varang can apparently track Spider no matter where they run? Seems like a very important plot point specially after Jakesully chickens out
I thought she had no magic powers, only drugs
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>>217276575
>capeslop
checks out
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>>217276679
Quaritch knows where Soollee is due to recon
Where Jake is Spider tends to be and if Spider isn't there then he's usually on his way anyways
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>>217276679
>>217276723
Did you both miss the part where right after Quaritch says Varang can find Sully, it shows her kuru-raping clans that Quaritch failed to interrogate and succeeding?
She can just get the information out of anyone who actually knows.
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"Hatred of the invading enemy is a most humane feeling. But it is born with such a pain of heart and torment of the soul that God forbid anyone to experience it a second time" -Pavel Batov
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>>217276750
I had to take a huge crap midway through the movie so I missed out on about 45 minutes of dialog
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>>217272096
any good vids you can link? my YT algo thinks im a chud so it’ll only recommend me edgy HYF retardation when it comes to avatar
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>>217276723
>>217276750
Ohh, thanks guess I was leaning too much in it to be a magical way to track Spider since they seemed really sure they could find him but raping the locals is a pretty valid way
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>>217275072
cringe
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>>217276832
He's rite doe
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>>217276822
Varang doesn't have any magic, it's all smoke and mirrors and drugs. Only Eywa/Kiri have magic, up until we find out in A4 that it's pure scifi.
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>>217276874
her mind control is certainly not smoke and mirrors.
>it's pure scifi
it's barely more sci fi than star wars, it's closer to fantasy. if you want sci fi go watch something like the expanse.
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>>217276941
Yeah but Avatar has Wayne Barlowe so that's a bajillion more scifi points by default
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>>217276941
Her mind control isn't magic. It's manipulation with the help of drugs and a mental connection facilitated by the Na'vi kuru, which is biological.
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>>217276941
>the sentient worldwide biological neural network created by ancient Luddites is equal to le force magic
okay lackwit
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>>217271786
I love way of water and really didn't care for fire and ash, so I feel like combining the two would just lessen way of water and I wouldn't want that in all honesty

>>217271887
>we
You ain't gonna do shit but doordash McDonald's straight to your fat ass all your life so the dasher can tell you he bratcha burger while you refuse to open the door like The Whale (Brendan Fraser, not the tulkun)
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>>217272845
>muh wh40k
I didn't even like the film but you are a fat chinless manlet who will spend his entire life watching equally dysgenic mutts running their gayass livestreams 24/7 and will eventually die one day having done nothing with your life. Gay warhammer faggots.
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When did /tv/ have such a way with words
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>>217275714
Basedlarper youtubers are the biggest gayest faggots ever
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>>217276811
nta, but here's a list of recent Jimbo interviews on the lore:

James Cameron on the Wind Traders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsN3aP-2YNI

James Cameron on Varang and the drug trip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLdKDFxtF2g

James Cameron on the animals of Pandora and the Three Laws of eywa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOd3mvrPMvY
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>>217277221
he said, niggerfaggotly
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>>217277364
>Girlboss
>Highschool delinquent
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I wish Jake would tell Quaritch "You think you're one of them? Time to wake up." for still serving the RDA. Even though Na'vi Quaritch wouldn't remember it, it would go hard.
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We still on track to hit 2 billion?
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>>217274600
>Pretendian
She's half-Chilean and clearly has indigenous ancestry, you don't have to look twice to see it
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>>217277430
She looks italian
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>>217277429
the ceiling has been updated to 1.4 billies
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>>217277430
>Smile lines
PRETTY
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>>217277318
Here are some interesting third-party videos I've found:

Here's a good one on why the special effects in Avatar look so good compared to the shit in all other movies. Especially the water effects of TWoW compared to the Little (Black ) Mermaid remake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki41PnoJSNc

Trey the Explainer has done some on the speculative evolution of pandora's animals. He did these before he trooned out, so they are safe to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm1JFLpkofs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBxLW3f7IJI
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>>217275501
I think this one is actually right to delete, unlike almost all the others. Neytiri never even attempting to learn to swim well or ride an ilu makes sense, she would stick to her ways and it's nice to keep her distinct as the sky-hunter who misses the forest, while Jake and his kids are more able to adapt and immerse themselves in the various tribes.
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>>217277453
Damn, what happened?
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>>217277605
Burgers have shit taste and would rather riot or watch Stranger Things than go to the cinema
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>>217277453
The ceiling is actually 1.85, with 1.5 already guaranteed as lowest possible
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>>217277492
>>217277318
thanks fren, appreciate it
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>>217277513
This, being homesick is part of her unique characterization, I don't see her making any effort to adapt and integrate
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>>217277747
When is she gonna get the stick out of her ass already?
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>>217277771
Already did, see >>217272942
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>>217277790
>Return to status quo by 4
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>>217277835
Not really: ronal is dead, she is ok with spider and now that Pril is born she has more reason to help the metkayina
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>>217276679
It's shown she can interrogate Na'vi which means they'll just be able to go to various tribes and force the information. Her main plot device is her ponytail, normally they wouldn't use that to dominate each other, but she has a unique spite for Eywa so she breaks all the rules.
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>>217277920
>Eywa forgives her
What happens then?
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>>217277453
It reached 1.2 Billion this weekend, its probably going to end between 1.5-1.7
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>>217277920
dangerously smug Varang
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>>217278024
Wild how some people think this film is a failure when it made more than the combined total of every MCU film in 2025. And that's on a 3 year turn-around from the previous film, compared to 13 years for TWOW.
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>>217277430
Kino schnoz
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>>217278142
WotW definitely benefit from it having been 10+ years since the first, so there no way 3 would ever beat it, but i think the american gross is definitely whats letting the movie down. Coulda been a 1.8 to 1.9 run imo if not for that
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This movie has shown me how legitimately retarded the average moviegoer is. In what fucking universe does it make any sense for quaritch or varang to just die and not come back after this movie? Do people just sit there and watch the pretty colors without giving a single thought to the writing at all?
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>>217278285
Yeah. That's more of a box office problem than an Avatar problem. While I think F&A was never going to match the previous two films for the reasons you mentioned, it has still reached the ceiling of what the current cinema environment allows. Every film from Zootopia to Minecraft can't go higher than 1.5-2 billion.
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>>217278348
>Do people just sit there and watch the pretty colors without giving a single thought to the writing at all?
Yes. The bulk of Avatar's money comes from """people""" who expect an action flick and switch their brains off the minute they enter the theater. They watch the movies for the fight scenes and the easily digestible "good guys" vs the "bad guys" plot
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>>217271677
insane ticket prices has to play a factor
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What you guys think about Jimmy handing Avatar 4 to another director, ESB-style? He'd obviously closely supervise it but it could add something new to the formula before Jimmy returns for Avatar 5
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>>217278543
Quitting the series if that happens. Jimbo or nothing.
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>>217271824
Wont happen. the whole point of the fire navi is they hate eywa because eywa is very real yet refused to help them when they needed it
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>>217278543
I wouldn't be for it tbdesu
They can spin it whichever way they like, Avatar is Cameron's vision and Cameron's vision ONLY, I wouldn't trust anyone else with the IP because the countless times that's happened with other IPs that's always a death knell for the franchise
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>>217272845
>>217272948
>Eywa is a warp entity
>Pandora was a daemon world this whole time
Still worth the desertion.
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>>217278543
I'd drop it.
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>>217278543
Not doable. I dont think any director is capable of handling these productions to Cameron's level.
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>>217278635
Pandora seems closer to some Eldar planet
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>>217278348
There are times you get reminded how absolutely, hopelessly retarded an average normalfag is and it makes you question how did this civilization even lasted as long as it did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDBpLHuB2AE&lc=Ugwchoqa2j6Bpys0D414AaABAg

I've read some reactions to Zoe's statement that Neytiri is a racist at the beginning of the third movie. I couldn't fucking believe what I was reading, a lot of people were arguing that no, Neytiri is just traumatized and has a good reason to be prejudiced because the aliens are trying to capture her home and yadda-yadda. These fucktards are like monkeys, they hear the words, but they don't understand the meaning behind them. All she was saying was a fact - Neytiri is a racist at the start of the third film because she hates humans for being humans and yes, we've been shown very clearly what got her to that point for two 3+ hour long movies, but she's the walking definition of a racist at the start of FaA. And she's Zoe fucking Saldaña, she's been playing this character for more than 15 years now and did so with passion for the character, the only person who knows more about Neytiri is Jim Cameron himself. It's incredible, normalfags are literal bio-robots with nobody home.
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>>217278743
World Heritage Post
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>>217278724
Unlike the Eldar they don't have the equivalent of spirit stones. Pandora would be a hotbed of warp fuckery, unfortunately.
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>>217278635
>>217278724
40k Pandora is for a Lord Inquisitor to abuse his authority and collude with a sympathetic Magos Biologis to declare Na'vi abhumans, stack the local governance with Na'viboos that require a puny tithe and having your Magos buddy cook up an avatar for you to retire in once the rejuvenat stops working and it's time to fake your death and enjoy a mortal hunter gatherer life with your Na'vi mate.
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>>217277364
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>>217277364
>>217277463
Here's a rabit hole for ya
https://xcancel.com/Babizinha041/status/1972468244050325958
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>>217278988
>gay tumblr ghoul slop of thing I like is... good
kys
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Songs for the characts
>Wainfleet
https://youtu.be/kGCoWMkeTIM?si=l-DYrg4BM7EgcHtQ

>Quaritch
https://youtu.be/_7PUPNxsRQ0?si=WwC-kXq7JSRyYUBY

>Varang
https://youtu.be/DO02QXn-n5M?si=7Fd4nHN0d_O2CsV6

>Lo'ak
https://youtu.be/VmEV6qjY9Nc?si=prhiP2jLARsjVMA0

>Spider
https://youtu.be/NfMegACVJQw?si=o81G98_9JnKxbhbt

>Turok
https://youtu.be/0LwcvjNJTuM?si=Is-bJ5iv-KqsH2er

>Ronal
https://youtu.be/25SgUisQjnQ?si=9CutOxEx8xqeVBla
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>7, 8, go to bed or stay up late
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>>217278988
Not even /co/ would approve of this BRAPstone coal dredged from the deepest darkest dankest most vantablack Congolese mines
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>>217275391
https://xcancel.com/solarsapphos/status/1986580268124373416
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Fujos? On my television and film board?
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>>217279025
Neytiri
https://archive.org/details/07_20250717
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>>217278988
>>217279101
the stuff only a malformed """lesbian""" would find attractive
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So did the granny actually kiss the white dreadhead or was it all cgi?
Cause I'm into that and while this in particular I don't find hot, I respect the principle and might buy another ticket to support the cause
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>>217279067
It gets worse
https://xcancel.com/search?q=%23fridgetrix
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>>217272845
Fuck off 40kuck, this is a Blue neighborhood
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>>217279281
They hired some other chick that's Champions age since he was like 16 when they filmed the scene

I'm disappointed about that too
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It's neat they've been wearing these things since the second movie.
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>>217279494
How come we didn't see his wife in the movie.
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>>217279461
>see patch
>"Deja Blue"
holy kek
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>>217279494
I'm just wondering how he got himself a Na'vi wife when he didn't joint the tribe
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>>217279281
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>>217279461
ABSOLUTE REALISM
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>>217272845
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>217279537
There's probably a surplus of Na'vi women due to the war since, while some women do participate in combat, the male chief is the military leader and we can assume men must make up the majority of fighters and hunters for the usual reasons.
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>>217279537
Horse Tribe got absorbed into the Forest clan from A1( can't fucking properly spell the name). He probably is considered a member of the clan. He did charge with the horse clan in the battle of the hallelujah mountains so it was probably the bravery showed there that scored him his wife.
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>>217279537
Norm joined the Olangi tribe and fought with them. Most of them were wiped out and the rest were absorbed into the Omatikaya. Norm's wife is Olangi
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>>217279461
>actually planning ahead

someone tell the Duffers about this it will blow their minds
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>>217279667
Nah. They literally don't give a shit. Could have stopped at S2 or S3 but kept going for greed.
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>>217279663
kek
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>>217279537
Norm's wife is from the Olangi clan, which was decimated in the final battle of A1. The remnants of her clan were absorbed into Omatikaya. Norm was one of the people leading the charge so I think he's proven himself enough to be included in some tribal things and I doubt that Jake being the chief would object to their union and IMO she wouldn't ask him in the first place. Also, Norm is allowerd near the Spirit Tree, which is strictly forbidden for outsiders, so he's probably considered somewhat of a honorary member of the people at this point.
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I was flagging on TWoW last time I watched it but this movie reignited my evaluation of it.
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Oh, and just checked it, Norm is there, but Max is allowed to be there too
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Honestly I don't think he's even considered honorary member. He seems way past that point. Moat seems chill with the guy so presume they just treat him as any regular Na'vi.
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Reminder that it’s canon that in The High Ground Jake leads a Na'vi team into space using shuttles and spacesuits to launch an attack on the RDA



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