Even with how many Batman movies there are, none of them feel like they really "get it." They always have something missing. After so many attempts it's a shame none are totally successful at getting the character
>>217279108really get what?
>>217279146the first 2 Arkham games
The animated Batman movies 'get it'.
>>217279146>Burton BatmanAll about pathos, the storytelling is an incoherent mess most of the time and many bizarre creative liberties are taken with the characters like the Penguin.>Schumacher BatmanA studio-driven spectacle of obnoxious colors and overacting that ruins all attempts at dramatic weight. Both are very boring movies. >Batman BeginsDoes the Batman character good but has a muddled message about not killing, 3rd act is poorly edited and contrived >The Dark KnightBatman gets sidelined by the villains, extremely implausible plot where Joker is an invincible mastermind and Batman is an imbecile who loses early in his career>Dark Knight Risesjust a dull and retarded movie that re-uses the same conflict from Batman Begins but somehow makes it worse>Affleck BatmanUgly appearance aside, actually an interesting take on the character but squandered by how shit all the movies he appears in are>Reeves BatmanIncompetent emo detective, barely emotes, can't even glide correctly, all the villains sucked and had little to do with the source material
>>217279108-1960's movie : campy as fuck. - 1989 Burton movie : It's not going to be the 1960's movie, we promise. - 1992 Batman Returns : McDonalds can't market this!- 1995 Joel Schumacher movie - takes a few steps backwards from the Burton movies as far as darker tone goes. Tries to lighten up the movie, is more marketing friendly. - 1997 Batman & Robin - Joel Schumacher not giving a fuck. It's the 1960's Batman movie re-imagined. Admitted to be a giant toy commercial. - 2005 - Batman Begins : Christopher Nolan's 'grounded' Batman series. Too bad about the shaky cam action scenes. - 2008 - The Dark Knight : 'Why so serious?' batman, with HOCKEYPADS!- 2012 - The Dark Knight Rises : loses the plot from the previous ones. - 2022 - The Batman : designed to erase the Afleck Batman. Tries to be more 'noir'.
>>217279211The whole animated series is clearly the best Batman adaptation
>>217279108Batman Forever is probably the most comic-accurate movie ever, it's literally a love letter to the silver ageIf you mean post-Miller/Moore Batman, then yeah it's arguable that we still haven't had that in movie form
>>217279638BTAS is better than the fucking comics ever were if we're being honest.
>>217279179This.Those games did something a majority of thsoe films never did and barely ever touched on: Batman doing ficking detective work. Solving crimes instead of punching randos (and sharks) and falling from impossibly large heights as is par for the course of those films. The movies touched on it, but you actually went around with advanced forensic tech and solved cases and caught bad guys. Things like DNA samples, examining and scanning corpses, figuring out shooting locations by matching bullet holes to their travel trajectories. Fuck, I might just fucking dive in again, man. They were that fucking good.
>>217280980>>Those games did something a majority of thsoe films never did and barely ever touched on: Batman doing ficking detective work.BWA HA HA HA
>>217280862Maybe true but the movie is also unbearable to watch half the time so I mean
>>217280980this is why the animated series was so good, most episodes were really about batman solving a mystery and then it's revealed a villain is the cause of it
>>217280980The Dark Knight was the worst offender. Batman gets mogged the entire movie, literally has no clue what he's doing. Two-Face is more of a protagonist than Batman is
>>217279108>none of them feel like they really "get it."Batman is a completely different character depending on the interpretation. It's this way with the comics and the animated movies too.
>>217279299>>The Dark Knight>Batman gets sidelined by the villains, extremely implausible plot where Joker is an invincible mastermind and Batman is an imbecile who loses early in his careerIs that the one where Joker's plan to get two ferries to blow each other up fails and Batman ends up capturing him and leaving him dangling for the authorities to arrest him? Cause that's like the opposite of how you characterized the film.
>>217281783Joker fundamentally succeeds in the movie. He corrupts Harvey Dent, Batman is forced into retirement, the bankruptcy of WayneTech and the city leads to it almost being nuked by Bane in the next movie. The truth about Dent's murders is revealed later on anyways
The 60s batman television series is absolutely peak.
>>217281855>refuses to shave mustache ridiculously based
>>217279299>the PenguinHe's stylized in a way that fits into the Burton Batman universe. Do you really think pic related would transfer well to film? I saw someone argue that it's the best Batman movie, because Batman enjoys being a vigilante rather than being broody. For example, the scene where he drops a grenade down the sewer then smiles when it explodes, despite the fact he obviously killed all those goons.
>>217282422And do you really not think his Catwoman is the best? The origin where she comes back to life after being licked by cats is nonsensical but fun.
>>217280862That ending is sick
>>217282422Paul Dini himself praised this movie for the bat signal scene.
>>217282619that lasted for 10 seconds
>>217282422Burton Penguin only works for Burton's type of movies. He has virtually nothing to do with the actual character who is supposed to be a mobster. The weird thing is that Penguin's characterization in Batman Returns is almost identical to Killer Croc who actually is just a weird guy born resembling an animal and lives in the sewers. So odd they didn't just use him instead
>>217282422I agree that Burton's Batman is better than some of the comicfags claim. They want Batman to just be gloomy and depressed the whole time, or have a perfect duality between Bruce/Batman. Burton and the animated series got it right -- Bruce is content with what he does, has a sense of wit to him, struggles with his choices but accepts his burden
>>217283199Burton's batman is best because he provided an adequate catwoman who can actually try to figure Bruce out and investigate why he likes dressing up in latex etc. The question of whether he's gay or some kind of fucking freak is actually addressed in Returns because there's a character capable of finding out.
>>217282788Literally yes, because in those 10 seconds Batman's entire existence was encapsulated: a lonely man sitting inert in the dark until the call to action shines in his face
Batman Forever > Batman Returns > Batman Begins > Batman (60's) > The Dark Knight Rises > The Dark Knight > Batman & Robin > Batman (80's) > Batman (20's)
>>217283869I fear the kind of man that likes Batman Forever the most
>>217284671hahahahaNicole Kidman
>>217283326I love their relationship in the movie, two fucked up freaks
>>217279299>>217279528>>217284671Batman Forever gets Batman perfectly and is the greatest Batman film of all time despite what faggot subhuman redditors say. You get everything you need and can possibly want from that film if you like Bronze Age Batman (greatest, unsurpassed Batman era)
>>217285094The movie is barely coherent in any way. I get a headache watching it. In the span of like 1 minute the movie shows the Riddler going from a normal crook to the CEO of a company even larger than WayneTech
>>217285280It's also a movie about a man running around in black tights. Like all the batman movies. Only this is one of the one's that's *meant* to be funny
>>217285300The only funny part is thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIm7nXG1cSw
>>217285359Not everyone has teh same sense of humor I guess. Movie is very funny.
>>217285094
Why the fuck are they afraid to film a live action Man-Bat
>>217279179trvke
>>217283869>>217284885>>217286153>>217285094Based buffoonery sanctioners>>217284671>t.
Batman Returns is boring misery porn and I'm tired of pretending of it's not.
>>217279108Whatever Hollywood tries to make comic book "serious and realistic" they always just make the same cartoonish shit but with bad lighting. I want to see a movie about batman but he's actually a detective and has no stupid latex costume with ears. Maybe give him some super cool trench coat. Something more like a Rorschach, but smarter and doesn't kill people
>>217286278They already did a movie where Batman is chiefly a detective 4 years ago. He absolutely sucked at his job
>>217281842>Batman is forced into retirement,Batman retires because crime falls so low, he wasn't needed anymore.> the bankruptcy of WayneTechHe bankrupts wayne tech trying to create free energy tech. Nothing to do with the Joker. At least, try to watch the films you're trying to criticise.
>>217284906it made way more sense than I expected from any batman film
>>217286232It's a cold, cruel world. Penguin had a hard life but he also lived by the sword, knowmsayin?
60s Batman is so much better written, better shot, and better acted than you rememberanybody who has the movie and the TV collection knows
>>217279299I think the Nolan movies made a mistake in trying to make Batman too realistic. It made him and the machinations of his villains seem even more silly and incoherent. The stylized and unrealistic world of the Burton movies (and even the Schumacher movies) let Batman and his villains occupy them much more naturally
Affleck is the closest to getting it right. Even Kevin Conroy thought so.https://youtu.be/pMB2-i5_p8E?si=nFP6AG1DJbK102rY
>>217279299you can always tell nothing of interest is being written when it's presented in these tired one-liner formats
>>217279108Only the first two got both types of Batman right.Returns was too dark. Forever was stupid and boring. Batman and Robin was just boring and stupid, so totally different. And soi fuckers won't stop spamming the rest especially The Dark Knight, so I won't ever watch them probably.
>>217287789>Forever was stupid and boring>boringNope.
>>217287809Yap. Boring. The post I just did here made me feel more than than film. I saw it in a theater too, s I am entitled to my opinion and didn't just watch part of it on a phone like most of you.
>>217279146They're not retarded enough to make anal capeshitters happy.
>inb4 typos prove I am correct!11Also Jim Carrey was already insufferable at that point in time and was full doing his Fire Marshal Bill Impression AND his Ace Ventura AND his Mask impression simultaneously because he was overpaid.
Batman is boring the Joker is the draw
>>217279108I genuinely don't think a single Batman movie is all that great honestly and Superman 1978 is too long for its own good and a bit too dated with some of the SFX and Keaton not being able to move his neck in that stiff cowl ruins some of the action scenes and Nolan is fucking horrible at doing action in general. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1 & 2 are the only truly great cape flicks.but X2 and Batman Returns comes close. Idk what it is but I think there's a certain level of humanity missing from all the rest and Raimi has a good sense for action at least in the first two movies and those small horror moments he did in them were all good too and really makes them stand out especially today. They have their own identity.
>>217283869Batman Forever easily has the best not-Batman song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDd2G_V1rzcDID YOU KNOWTHAT WHEN IT SNOWSMY EYES BECOME LARGEAND THE LIGHT THAT YOU SHINECAN'T BE SEENBAAAAYBEEEEEEEEH
>>217288143>Superman 1978 is too long for its own good-t. Zoomy zoom who is on his honeymoon with his iphone
>>217286616>>Batman is forced into retirement,>Batman retires because crime falls so low, he wasn't needed anymoreHe retired because he's blamed publicly for the Dent murders, and personally he blames himself for Rachael's deathMaybe you should actually watch the movies, you fucking spastic
>>217281336This is the closest thing we got to detective workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkjrbusnTuo
>>217279146these dubs
The Dark Knight is one of the best movies of all time
What an incredible foray into cinema history he has had.
>>217288800You're brown or low IQ, take your pick
>"I'm....soooo.....bluuuuuuee...."
>>217280862I really like that one. Mega-camp and all.
>>217279108The comics have the luxury of darting around to wherever is the most interesting currently. The movies typically make Bruce the protagonist which is difficult because his life needs to have some level of mystery and intrigue to work. A Robin POV movie or any other character would work better so that Batman can be Batman without having to force a contrived character arc that you know isn’t going to result in him reversing his code.
>>217288892S2 True Detective vibes.
Justified: City Primeval is the best take on Batman/The Joker in decades. Batman (Raylan) walking through a city struggling to understand how a serial killer can operate so freely and with such little punishment was fascinating, particularly seeing that his superpower (quickshot) only works when you know who to shoot.
>>217287732>no good writing>no good movie>no good scenewhat part of it gets close again?
>>217289228I never liked Batfleck. It’s completely wrong. Maybe a hint of what Batman is supposed to be, but largely it’s just a completely different character. His Bruce Wayne was pretty great though.
>>217289257>His Bruce Wayne was pretty great though.Again, what was great about it?You just liked the still images
>>217285094https://youtu.be/4YQh_7LYg-gThe soundtrack alone is 10/10
>>217284671It's normal for sheep to fear lions
>>217288422>He retired because he's blamed publicly for the Dent murders, and personally he blames himself for Rachael's deathHello, low iq retarded faggot. You're the one who needs to watch the film again. This is his conversation with Gordon.https://youtu.be/Wda01iqJbm8?si=KmzL-SDKuqdR9vpN>We were in this together, then you were gone>Batman wasn't needed anymore, we won.He stayed active as Batman till crime was non-existent, He stayed active as Bruce Wayne until the green energy project failed. He only became a recluse after that (Talia's dialogue).It's always retarded faggots like you who are so confidently wrong, lmao.
