In retrospect, was it ever good?
>>217305380Yes, the first 4 seasons are objectively the greatest television of all time. Anybody pretending that the series (ending included) it's at least a top 5 TV series is either a contrarian or a bandwagon normie that just follows the noise.
>>217305523too much sex
>>217305380The best>>217305523fpbp
>>217305380No. This show sucked and was badly written. It was critically acclaimed during the D&D fart huffing era when they were critic-proof and GoT was treated by normies like some kind of high art masterpiece. Now that the hype is dead, people are starting to realize how bad it was.
season 1 is goodseason 2 is ok but already buckling under D&D's retardationeverything after is a lost cause
I liked seasons 1, 2, and 4. Rest were meh.
>>217306310>>217306285>>217306231AFFC and ADWD are dogshit books. Go suck a shotgun.
>>217306439>muh AFFC and ADWDLiterally your only defense nigga. Those books being shit doesn’t change the fact of the latter seasons being shit as well.
>>217306439buckbroken schizo
>>217306439The only post you replied to that even mentioned the books was literally agreeing with you on the books falling off as well you fucking spastic.
I hated the final season when it dropped but I rewatched the entire show a few months ago and final season wasn't that unreasonable except for some blatant bullshit like 'Dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet'. You can tell it was rushed and they could've easily done one or two more seasons, it's just that the acceleration was way too fast. The tempo doesn't match the previous seasons.
>>217306782>I hated the final season when it dropped but I rewatched the entire show a few months ago and final season wasn't that unreasonable except for some blatant bullshit like 'Dany kinda forgot about the iron fleet'.Having shit like that happen every so often is bad, but forgivable. It's the difference between a great show and a good one. But a good show is still good. The problem with GOT is that it wasn't every so often. The final season is basically a non stop stream of characters "forgetting about the Iron Fleet" Characterization and world building was ignored, the writers bent over every character and shoved the terrible plot right up their ass, which made it even worse to begin in. Characters aren't making decisions becuase they're in character or beleivable or smart, but because they have to in order to make the plot work and that makes the show just bad.
>>217305380In retrospect no because S8 destroys the entire lore and turns the series into a very expensive and well polished mexican telenovela with dragons.
>>217306915I think not continuing the story after 25 years is alot more damage to the "Lore" lmao.
>>217306915>S8 destroys the entire lore How? Because the prophecy was bullshit? That was the whole point
The White Walkers, teased since the first epsiode of the show, a representation of how humanity's greed and ego blinds him to the real problems of world, actually isn't really that big of a problem, you just gotta stab him. Who wins the Game of Thrones, some crippled kid nobody in Westeros really knows. He' also might be evil, or maybe he's good, or maybe he just doesn't care. We really have zero idea what his motivations or plans are, but he's King now I guess. Oh yea he can also see the future, sometimes, maybe, again things aren't very clear. Everything we know about politics points to Westeros erupting in civil war once again in protest of his rule... but the show's over who cares about that kind of thing. But what does that matter, who rules isn't important to the story is it?The Mad King's daugther, who's enemies have been calling her mad for 7 seasons, turns out to actually be mad. Then she dies and her army vanishes faster than the White Walkers did when the Night King died. Sandor Celgane spent 30 years of his life not making a single move against his brother. Even after he abandoned the capital he spent like 4 seasons wandering around the Riverlands instead of doing shit against his brother. But in the last season he has a suicidal need to kill his brother for some reason, who by the way, is already dead.
>>217306886Idiot plot bro. Last two seasons was riddled with that shit.
>>217306915>mexican telenovela with dragonsThis hits hard, with the showrunners commenting about removing fantasy elements to appeal mothers and homosexuals.
It was *the* show to watch. Like other Anons said, the first 3-4 seasons were amazing the it started declining ever since to the point where the final season erased any rewatchability of the show. What made the early seasons so peak was the dialog/interactions between the characters rather than the action sequences. Season 7 and 8 chose the action route and had shittier writing
>>217305380no. but there was acting tallent in it.
Subversion kino. Future generations will look back at the ending and appreciate it for how subversive it is
>Subversion kino. Future generations will look back at the ending and appreciate it for how subversive it is
>>217305380>Years later and actors are still seething about poor fan reception of the last seasonAmazing stuff. Has there ever been a more severe fall off in cinematic history?
>>217306285tpbpSeason 1 was excellent. Season 2 was good but the cracks started showing. Season 3 had more issues but was still worth watching. After that, just awful.
I've tried rewatching the first season but each time they mentioned the white walkers I cringed so hard it made me abandon the show in the first episode. Hopefully someone will fix the show with AI or something.
The feeling that any character could die in the early seasons was fantastic for me. I understand that it wasn't the same for those who read the books.
>>217305380https://youtu.be/UR8nlgMKW7Q
the entire jon snow part and his unearable fat faggot friend was so bad I would skip it entirely
>>217306285s1 is also poorly written, tons of bad exposition. it just doesnt have the horrible reddit self aware tone of the later seasons (mostly). also benefits from the tight focus on neds plot
>>217306439no theyre good, they just have bad pacing bc theyre supposed to be one book
>>217307209>Everything we know about politics points to Westeros erupting in civil war once again in protest of his rulebrah, even if not just like dany, how is he even going to have an heir?
>>217307979>actors are still seething about poor fan reception of the last seasonSome of the actors were seething over the last season as well.
>>217309404book hype carried it desu, and sean bean / Mark addy
>>217309631which one scene? those varys lf scenes were so cheesy
>>217309743I bet you drive a Subaru.
>>217305380Season one is pure kino. Goes bad right after that.
>>217309743well yeah it was the potential of what might happen that really drew me in, that and the sex scenes since I was 16 at the time
>>217305380I watched this years after the hype after staying completely insulated apart from my auntie's fangirling. First 4 seasons are amazing, 5 and 6 are decent, it's only in 7 or 8 where it becomes a groanfest "why is any of this happening". Even then the production values stay amazing, and you're invested enough after so many hours that you don't check out completely.
Daenerys went from Dany to Ding-Dong way too fast
>>217309954>production values stay amazingliar
>>217305380s01 is 9.5/10s02-s04 is solid 8-8.5/10s05-s07 is 6-7/10s08 is -10/10, retroactively makes you hate the entire show
>>217305380Without considering books at all the 1-7 seasons are 9/10 and s8 is 3/10. It is incredible actually how much the s8 fumbled. However, if you consider the books then season 1 is 10/10 and then s2-4 7/10 and after that it is hard to even compare. Its shame that they drifted so much from the books as there are quite many kino things and characters in books that could've have worked phenomenally in the series.
>>217305380The scene where Oberyn got his skull crushed was pure kino
>>217310111A chainmail grandma sweater!
>>217306439nahonly the dorne chapters were shitand bran but he's shit in the other books too
>>217311043Prince Doran is kinoBrienne chapters are boring as hell
>>217305380It died right after Tyrion killed Tywin.
>>217311068I'm gonna be honest with you I don't remember Brienne chapters at all so you're probably right.
>>217311083I was about to say Rome but it was rushed for some dumb reason but still ended pretty well as compared to got>>217311134.
>>217305523>Yes, the first 4 seasons are objectively the greatest television of all time. Anybody pretending that the series (ending included) it's at least a top 5 TV series is either a contrarian or a bandwagon normie that just follows the noise.Very reddit. Nicely done if that was the goal of you're post.
>>217305380Much of the first four seasons is good/very good, but even in season one Dany's scenes were shit. She's not a good actress, and I didn't care about her character at all, although Jora and the Dothraki were okay. That's the biggest problem with the first season, the best season.
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>>217305380First major break was Robb and his brown whore wife. But it went until season 5 Dorne and Arya arcs to become really bad
>>217311232No, anon. You are the reddit.And then anon was a tranny.
>>217307209yea, its obvious they dropped the ball to an absurd, mind bending degreeeven if we assume that at least the big stuff (Others are a creation of the Children, dany burns KL, jon takes her our and fucks off to the north, brand ends up running things) are from george, its clear that we're missing several thousand pages worth of setup to make those things make sensewe already know that the whole "arya kills the night king, gg Others" is not in the books, as the night king is not a thing in the books (there is a Night's King, but that's a totally different thing, mythological night's wathc commander)so, presumably, that part at least will have a more satisfactory endingalso, in the books, clagane is nowhere near the BwB, i really don't see cleganebowl being a thing. imo that was just D&D doing some fan service.
>>217311210>Romenot medieval lol
>>217307701>erased any rewatchabilityi wouldn't go that farbut when i rewatch, i stop at s08e02 at the latest (the one where jamie knights brienne, imo the absolute last good moment of the show)
>>217311352If that's true, then you must be a raging cocksucker, like OP.
>>217311210>Rome but it was rushed for some dumb reasonit was rushed so hbo could plought all its money and resources into GoT, actually.
Until the fourth season, yes.
>>217305380it was good, but not great
>>217305523Spare the faggot brackets reddit nigger
>>217311865based
I think only 3 things about S8 were unforgivable:1) Jon Snow remaining as Jon Snow. Or at least the way it was handled. I suppose I don't mind that Jon never really cared to be or wanted to be a Targaryen / royalty, he just wanted to know if his mother gave a shit about him. But the way he just gets sent to the wall at the end for killing Dany is retarded and disrespectful to his character (and also if we were to follow the laws to a T here I am pretty sure he would get beheaded for deserting his post in the first place... actually scratch that, his "watch ended" when he died and when he was reborn technically I guess he was just volunteering since he never retook the vows.)2) Ruining Jamie. Everything seemed good until he left after fucking Brienne. Why? WHY?! Okay maybe you do send him back as show Jamie has always made it clear he loves Cersei no matter what but that shit about "I never cared much for them, innocent or otherwise" literally spits on Jamie's character as a noble knight who everyone just thinks is an arrogant prick. It would be an easy fix: just have him unsure when he speaks to Tyrion what he is going to do or say when he gets to Cersei. He loves her but understands she is being unreasonable and that innocents are dying for her selfishness. This would be great character conflict as he would be torn between his love for Cersei and his honor as a knight. 3) Night King getting "nothing personnel'd" by Arya. Need I say more here?I don't hate any other choices made all that much although it was stupid and made no sense that everyone just listened to Tyrion suggest Bran be king and also why was Greyworm and the Unsullied even allowed to live after Dany died? They just let some smelly dickless foreigner who was sworn to the "Mad Queen" imprison a highborn noble of one of the biggest Houses???
