>>217306576
>what are your reasons?
I like movies.
But I guess being a culture war autist is as good reason as any.

For the most part, yes. I don't think treating past media like it's archaic is a good thing because everything eventually becomes old and lots of cool shit was made in the past, plus I'm tired of retarded post social media politically mind broken writers shitting up modern movies.

>>217306576
These days? I've been doing it for a decade at least! The last time I was actively looking forward for new movies might've been around 2010. Ever since that the only new stuff I check out - almost always a couple years later - is what specifically piqued my interest for some reason. My time is too valuable for slop. This is not about old shit or new shit but good shit.

>>217306597
>>what are your reasons?
>I like movies.
This is a good answer. If you love cinema, even just for entertainment purposes, you have decades worth of material waiting to be discovered. Classics are classic for a good reason but the rabbit hole goes much deeper than that.

>>217306759
Another good point. That shit would be tiresome and irritating even if they were world-class filmmakers. Too bad they're the opposite, and nothing is sacred nor too big to be razed to the ground. Just being free from that shit feels refreshing.

Yes. Example: I liked the first Wrong Turn. There was a reboot so I checked it out. First scene, queeny gay couple has replaced the attractive straight couple. Turn off after less than 5 minutes. It's all like that now.

>>217306576
>watch old film
>no cgi
>no shitty color grading
>no shitty lighting
>no marvel quips
>no mystery mutts and forced ugliness
yep kino

>>217307839
>Watch the new Candyman
>First scene, a zesty buck is taking his white boyfriend to a dinner party. They are both very effeminate. The zesty buck is given the honour of reciting the Candyman legend to the audience.

>>217306576
I found 90s westerns goofy or too much posturing and lacking something. Went back to the 1930s to 50s. Sampled some 60s-70s. Ended on Lonesome Dove + Dead Man. It's about how a genre came and went. Like how a town was built, became a busy hub, then declined to a ghost town.

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>>217306576
Dunno much about golden age hollywood films but I've been watching a lot of the El Santo films. They're super corny, super dated b-movie stuff about a luchador fighting against mummies, vampires, etc in 1970/1980s mexico. I find them pretty charming.

>>217308332
Are they available with English subtitles?

I only watch newer movies while I'm at work so at least I'm being paid to watch them. In my free time it's usually older kino

There's something good about older movies and shows. I've been watching The Twilight Zone recently and it’s been so comfy and engaging.
It feels natural, there isn't any color grading, no cgi, the dialogue is pure and there isn't as much action so you have to pay closer attention. There's a lot of charm and soul in older pictures.

>>217306576
I played the bluray of Strategic Air Command over Christmas and my whole family watch and actually enjoyed it.
A lot of these old movies you only ever saw on grainy television with commercials, seeing them basically in theater-quality is amazing.

>>217306576
There are people posting on this forum that were born after the last good movie was made

>>217308492
The new Avatar is good.

>>217308404
I just started a watch, too.
I think what works great is that they know their limitations with effects/creatures/etc, and so the dialogue really balances it out. You can easily just listen to it while playing on the side and get a lot out of it, like a radio drama.

>>217308374
They're a niche in the spanish section of the net and an even bigger one in anglo circles I'd guess. They're not on any streaming service afaik, but the most popular of em are on YT and you could turn auto subs on, not ideal but it's something.
>https://youtu.be/dXdheum0bvY?si=3vJzNNgqMkhOCTP0
I've also seen supposed dvd rips of some of em on ad ridden spanish sites but I haven't tried those yet.

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It’s amazing how much better old movies are than new movies. The world was better so it makes sense that the movies are better. If you want actual entertainment and escapism you should check out some classic films.

>>217308332
>>217308661
I'm also interested in El Santo. He's a Mexican superhero.

>>217308661
Thanks anon. I’ll try YouTube.

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>>217308213
This is a good one

>>217306576
I watch American sitcoms from the 90s and 00s mostly, I've seen every relevant movie already. I don't watch any new shit really, maybe occasionally when it's a sequel to something from 20 years ago (but they still manage to ruin it).

I'm watching King of Queens right now and it's so refreshingly normal compared to the AI and propaganda crap they're putting out now.

i weirdly enjoy old shitty films

>>217308379
How the fuck does everyone have a bullshit job like that. Give me one please.

>>217309096
Get a boiler license and then spend a couple years busting your ass doing dirty work at a power plant while continuing to learn about how they work. After doing the shitty work for a couple years, get promoted to the control room and watch highly automated boilers and turbines run themselves.

>>217309569
Must be nice to live in a country where such jobs are common. I don't even know where I would go to get hired in a tiny European shithole for something like that, and even if it existed, it's a nepo baby job for people with party connections.

>>217308753
Someone who says this is ignoring all the garbage that almost nobody remembers from that period anymore. It’s easy to go “OMG EVERYTHING WAS BETTER!” if all you’re doing is watching the iconic movies that have stood the test of time because they appear on greatest movies ever made lists and get new restoration releases. Go watch the B-list or poverty row low budget crap they were churning out at that time and you find a lot of awful, boring shit. Especially in the slightly over 60 minute running time stuff they were producing as B-list features most serials.

And people today wouldn’t like the practice of literally remaking the same movie multiple times with just some slight script changes, lower budget and different title. In the span of ten years they made three different Maltese Falcon pictures and everyone just remembers the Bogart one now, even though Bette Davis did one version years earlier during her heyday.

And yes, the studio system did have some benefits that helped to produce high quality content compared to today but that’s because everyone was working basically every day for a weekly wage and you could be working on 2-3 different movies at once every week. That’s what made the quality improve, constant work and ability to hone your skills instead of chasing after endless freelance jobs like what is the modern system. That system also had a downside like heavy studio meddling, watering down stories due to excessive censorship, etc.

The novelty and exotic nature of old movies will eventually die when you watch enough movies and you should start to understand that outside of certain, lostly monetary and systemic factors there is not much difference between now and then.

>>217309661
Sorry to hear that anon. In the US it’s not difficult to do, though many don’t know these opportunities are out there.

>>217309096
Get an overnight job as a glorified babysitter for mentally retarded adults. $27/hr to sit and watch TV for 12 hours a day 4 days a week.

>>217310656
HOW

>>217309930
The business imperative makes repetitive nature of products inevitable. Calling things are the same is simply not reflected in box office receipts. Plus the notable character actors that enliven movies were clearly abundant in the studio system with stock companies. Even the STUDIO MUSICAL had more professionally trained singers + dancers GALORE in the old days. What's today's equivalent of Orion, Dimension films, Canon group? My local film society could do retrospectives of Budd Boetticher, Sam Fuller. B-movie guys. Who are the B-directors today that warrant that?

>>217308503
No it isn't

>>217306576
Wouldn't know where to start if I had to list all the things old movie do better in general, from any decade.

It's the opposite for me. I watched old movies for years and I finally decided to watch more new ones.
I kind of want to clear all the most popular ones to know what people talk about.

>>217309930
>Someone who says this is ignoring all the garbage that almost nobody remembers from that period anymore
I hate you redditards and this non argument so much.
Filter out old garbage and you are left with an endless list of decent-good-great movies.
Filter out modern garbage and you are left with nothing whatsoever.

Yes everything was better.

>>217311039
Objectively incorrect. You're just biased. You overhype old films.

>>217306576
I am watching good old Kurosawa films currently, watched High and Low yesterday it was really good.

>>217311026
Nothing worth existing has been made in many years
People don't discuss them anymore
There is nothing to discuss about them either way

>>217311098
Like I said, you're biased.
>People don't discuss them anymore
Plenty of discussion in places that actually watch movies.

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>>217311080
No you are objectively incorrect. You are jsut biased. You overhype modern shit.

My stance is based on watching many many film from many eras, and drawing conclusions. Also having fucking eyes

You just feel entitled to be born on a peak, as if valleys and people born during those eras didn't exist

>>217311131
Like I said you are wrong and biased. You were probably born after the last good movie was made.
>Plenty of discussion in places that actually watch movies.
no, and watching youtube entertainers doesn't count as discussion

>>217310966
>Calling things are the same is simply not reflected in box office receipts.

Box office numbers have kept going downward ever since invention television, buddy. And that’s a global phenomenon that for example directly resulted in the film studio systems going defunct everywhere by the 70s when they couldn’t make profits like the in the golden age of cinema. Why is that if everything was so uniquely great in the 50s, 60s? Because people could stay home and watch TV or do other stuff. The internet age just repeated that when it killed home release profits when people no longer rented and bought DVDs like they used to, which is how a lot of stuff made back its money.

>Plus the notable character actors that enliven movies were clearly abundant in the studio system with stock companies.

Duh, they were working all the time due to being under contract and studios wanted them to work as much as possible. You still have character actors today but they appear more sporadically and it’s harder to see them regularly due to how today things are so fragmented and there’s less available work due to downsizing productions.

>Even the STUDIO MUSICAL had more professionally trained singers + dancers GALORE in the old days.

Because there was great demand for them in the 30s and 40s and they were regularly hiring people directly from places like Broadway. It was also expected in certain studios that you trained in dance and singing to make those movies.

>Who are the B-directors today that warrant that?

Largely horror directors, and indy directors like say Kelly Reichardt who have harder time to get financing so their productivity is smaller than what it could be back in the day when there was more money put into arts in general. The issue today is that there is less competition when you just have few corporations owning everything and there’s less money going around funding projects in general.

>>217306576
Films then were made more deliberately and with intent and at the same time with less neuroticism

>>217306576
i tried watching sinners tonight and i am both fascinated and disgusted by just how bad it is.

the vampires are objectively better people than the people they try to portray as the protagonist.
who are all whores, murderers, pimps, drunks, etc.
was this intentional?

>>217311607
I watched about 20 seconds of it and it sucked so hard I just immediately turned it off.

>>217311039
>Filter out modern garbage and you are left with nothing whatsoever.

People like you have been whining this way since sound pictures took over. And you’re always hyperbolic dimwits. Every generation there’s been people like you bitching how everything new is bad, only had good stuff was when YOU were young. It’s a sign of limited interest and narrow tastes, not to mention dumb culture war bs. You lack curiosity and willingness to actually bother to find things to enjoy and what you fail to understand is that your excitement when you were young came from experiencing new things for the first time. You’re not going to be as hyped up when you get the same thing for the 14746th time. You’re supposed to grow up and understand that your tastes have matured and become more scrutinised and you have to put in effort to look things to enjoy instead of throwing tantrums that you no longer can automatically get your jollies by just turning on the TV or pressing play.

>>217311478
You just have shit taste.

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>>217309044
Robert Wise makes only kino.
>>217311574
Give it up, capeshitter, new movies fuking suck.

>>217311822
Watch better movies than slop

>>217310867
In most states you literally only need a high school diploma. Just search DSP jobs

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>>217311662
>we were always at war with eastasia
>things never get worse or better
>everything I don't like to hear is bias
People like you are called stupid with no standards
>>217311679
I'm not the one who thinks movies are good now, infected

>>217309930
I watch a lot of movies not just 'le classic' ones. And I came to believe that even B productions, the flops, the bad, trashy films often times look better than the good A list films of today . Tony Scott made some total flops, but as far as cinematography goes look they still look much better than most of the acclaimed shit of today.

>>217311080
I can tell from your opinions that you're white, middle class, and left of center

>>217309930
Holy shit man, have you, like, considered killing yourself. It would help the world heal a tiny bit

>>217312730
Talk about hyperbole

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>>217306576
Modern Hollywood shoves blacks and POC into every scene now. Old movies don't have that, so that's what I watch.

>>217306576
Only? No. Why would I limit myself to any particular timeframe of kino? You sound like a pseud

>>217309930
Take any five years from 1930-1970 and start listing good movies and you’ll easily quadruple the amount you can count from 2020-2025. And that’s in a world with five hundred times more movies being made every year

>>217306576
>+100 years of movies
vs
>nignogs women homosexual cultural marxism at full force all together nowday movies
Hmmm... hard choice to follow.

>>217313420
Even if that was true, it doesn’t mean no good movies are being made today. It’s only natural that quality goes down when more stuff is mass produced

>>217313458
The reason no good stuff is being made today isn’t a quality vs quantity thing, it’s a “we live in a sick and probably dying culture” thing. The fact that they’re pumping out more movies isn’t what ruined movies, “nignogs women homosexual cultural marxism at full force all together” is very much indeed what killed the movies

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>>217306576
this is why its satisfying to watch OLD FILMS particularly juxtaposed against what is in media today. 2025 you get these girl boss hustlers that are fierce, but in yesteryear the reality of LIFE completely BTFOing woman over 25 that they can't play that coquettish attention whore any longer. The game is over.

Watch "The Hustler", "Street Car Named Desire", "Gone With The Wind".... the woman that overplayed her hand and was left with no seat when the music stops. THAT is the lesson women should be paying attention to in their younger years. This plays into the whole dynamic of learning what a WOMAN and feminine roles are. Most of them are clueless and really need help getting there because their mothers failed them. They are all stunted with the puberty years of "get a man's attention" to prove your worth. They never learn the next stages of
> keeping a man (how to be a lover, not a disposable fuck pillow)
> being a wife (the emissary of a man's pride)
> being a mother (the VP of the family)
> being the matriarch/abuella (leader of the community)

This is why so many of them are confused (and men, too). They have outgrown their shell, feel out of place, struggle with being outmatched taking on masculine roles, but have no clue why.

>>217313606
You realize that the woman in Street Car Named Desire was the victim?

>>217313509
>pukes culture war garbage as an argument

Yawn

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>>217313653
>the woman in Street Car Named Desire was the victim?
ARE YOU HIGH?
she was a whore
Stanley treated her exactly as she was
and she KNEW IT

The entire story missed you if you think it was just a 'rape' movie

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>>217313316
Even nigger movies used to be kino.

>>217313606
OK, incel

>>217313670
I don’t like it any more than you do, but middle aged left-wing women with pens and clipboards found a way to barge into every writing room in America back in the 1980s and now here we are.

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>>217313689
>>217313689
A WHORE

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>>217313606
>Gone With The Wind
Nah, Scarlett made out okay.

>>217313671
Are you? He literally raped her and broke her mind. He had a wife for fuck's sake, are you seriously saying that raping your wife's sister is a good thing to do?

The movie literally ends with his wife taking the baby and leaving him.

>>217313716
The guy in that gif was a great actor, I always wondered why he wasn’t in more stuff. I guess cause he was a manlet maybe

>>217313704
Women have been involved in filmmaking and entertainment since their conception. It’s absolutely hilarious dimwit culture war warriors like you know know absolutely nothing of history

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>>217313689
A DIRTY FUCKING WHOOO AHRE

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>>217313731
>Scarlett made out okay.
She was a tramp floozy
i swear you retards cant pay attention to story arcs

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>>217306576
>>217306576
yeah it's' weird it's like we're being haunted in a literal sense by the past. like damn. have you seen they drive by night?

>>217313731
There was that scene where she was being an hysterical bitch and Clark Gable used ‘corrective rape’ on her and it worked. I guess that’s what he meant

>>217313740
So how much does your mom charge, anon?

https://letterboxd.com/dieselski3/films/by/rated-date/
i put a bunch of old films listed here i just like watching interesting films
older ones are usually underrated

>>217313737
Of course women have been involved in film making since forever, what kind of a stupid strawman is that? Come on. I’m talking about politically correct content censors. Which became a widespread thing in the 80s and 90s. Most, but not all, of whom are and were women

>>217313805
You’re talking nonsense

>>217313606
Or you can watch for example:
Master of the House - where an abusive husband is humiliated by his former nanny and becomes a good family men that starts to appreciate his wife (1925)
Or Bringing Up Baby where the female character constantly humiliates Cary Grant. Same thing happens in Gold Diggers of 1933 or in Lady Eve.
Screwball comedies often were about this.

I don’t watch a lot of tv or movies but it seems pretty obvious that most of not all modern movies or tv shows are compromised in some way by other groups trying to control what’s included or advocated for in any show or movie so I don’t see modern workd as art in the same way I see older stuff. I don’t really watch most modern stuff- sad really. I’ve got some old friends I grew up with who don’t shut their mouths abour modern streaming slop shows and I just politely try to navigate away from the topic.

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I will never be a movie director so it's not like it matters but I've been thinking about how I love the aesthetic of old movies and can't stand looking at anything made today but if I were to make a movie how would I make it look good and say something original, relevant and authentic to the current times without looking like nostalgia bait? All those things I love about old movies were contemporary at the time. Like in Taxi Driver New York did look this gritty in the 70s. If I made a movie today and tried to replaicate it it would be phony.

I don't doubt that objectively good movies are still made today but I care a lot about visuals and the world has to me become less cinematic. Just the design of everything. Like cars in pursuit of better aerodynamics, safety and comfort look like bloated blobs. There is visual pollution everywhere. Historical buildings mixed with glass/metal boxes. I hate ads but back then they were hand-painted and could look rather beautiful instead of someone doing an obnoxious youtube thumbnail face today. People wearing ugly graphic t-shirs and tattoos. People are also less in shape today. The world is also less tactile. Touching the screen is less dramatic than pressing a loud button. There are more things I could think about.

>>217306576
I only really watch old movies now. I collect phycial which is drying up, there is about 100 years of good output maybe 10 TV shoes and 20 movies a year at most, about 3000 total.

Movie and TV series mainly falls off a cliff about 2016 but it was already on shakey ground, American blacks self obsession with being the only people in history to experience slavery or hardship along with endless homsexual self inserts really destoyed cinema and TV and comedy in particular. It's not just me, I don't know anyone who watches modern stuff from any age group. Stuff like capeshit, the last jedi etc etc just made people switch off. The good news is that there is a lifetimes worth of stuff made before hollywood and TV went to shit.

Looking alonng a shelf beside me
X files
House
OF Fraiser,
Old King of the Hill
Old Futurama
OLd Sherlock Homes Movies
Hictcock Movies, the birds, real window, haloween, assault on precinct 13, jerimah johnson,
Westerns like sergio leone cheers, sophrahos etc etc

Get your physical media while you still can, it is vanishing fast.

Have all of laurrel and hardy, buster keaton, the three stooges etc etc
Movies like where eagles dare, zulu, a bridge too far, omega man, the man who would be king,

The last good new movies I saw was (and I will get grief for this from nuts) jojo rabbit (and I say that as someone who was a combatant at 16 and am now in my 50s and saw some very bad stuff) but you can't even say that now without some spastic pouring his shit at you.

>>217313841
No that’s actually all in your imagination and you’re a Nazi

>>217313841
And you’re a fucking idiot for thinking that way. Old tv and movies was heavily censored up the ass after the early 30s

>>217313872
Like clockwork

Because old movies are simply better. Run of the mill films from back in the day ware often made with more talent and craftsmanship than most shit made in current year.

>>217313892
You exaggerate.

>>217313917
The point is he is dead and the matrix died with him.

>>217313892
They were hacky as fuck. Full of forced moralism and propaganda. The only reason you eat the slop up is because it happens fit with your politics

>>217306576
>what are your reasons?
i watched black bag a few days ago and it was really bad. it deserved to flop and sonderberg's complaints have no legs to stand on.
so yeah modern movies are just awful from a pov of craftsmanship and skill

>>217313994
Black Bag was an entirely watchable thriller

>>217313981
But enough about you and modern cinema

>>217313260
Don't talk

>>217313331
You watch bad movies made in cultural black hole era just for completionism?
Talking about having no standards but unlimited time!

>>217306597
>muh heckin' culture wars!
Why, do you prefer the current culture or something? If so, why?

>>217309930
>there is not much difference between now and then.
there's no great movies anymore. and it starts with there being no actors or actresses anymore that i would like to watch
i despise the brad pitts and tom cruises and the following generations are even worse

>>217306576
Because it's on actual film and high def transfers of that look really cool

>>217313670
YOUR culture war. And you lost it

Gone Girl is as good as the best traditional noir movies. You only prefer the old ones because they are classics. There's nothing inherently better about movies like Out of the Past compared to Gone Girl.

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>>217313670
>Yawn

>>217313420
>and you’ll easily quadruple the amount you can count from 2020-2025.
i have not seen a single good movie from this decade. not one. i have passable ones but none that got me excited

>>217314037
Yes there are. People like you just refuse to watch anything for stupid reasons and then bitch and moan how everything sucks.

>>217313689
You will have cats and no family, poor bitter cunt

>>217314036
Why wouldn’t I enjoy things? I’m not a bitter loser

>>217313737
Not to dictate culture, faggot

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>>217313817

>>217314001
if you got no brain perhaps. did you even listen to the way all of the characters talked? they all talked like smartass posers. none of them came across like an actual person, they were caricatures.
ridiculous
and dont get me started on the sloppy direction

>>217314069
Pretty bad example considering the ending of that movie. Gangster gets his comeuppance, is tortured and killed.

A basic moral play.

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>>217313869
>>217313872
Cringe, loser

I hate the modern world but I also hate smoking so I can't win.

>>217314048
>watch ben affleck or humphrey bogart
hmmm, tough choice

>>217314096
i know within 20 seconds whether an actor is likeable and/or interesting. all of today's actors are unimpressive

>>217313981
>Full of forced moralism and propaganda. The only reason you eat the slop up is because it happens fit with your politics
Everyone agrees with normality and normality cannot be political.
You are the products of subnormals with fringe opinions having a voice
>>217313917
Nope, loser

>>217314157
Wrong movie. Out of the Past stars Robert Mitchum. I compared both because they both share a pretty typical femme fatale.

>>217313892
Guys like Fincher and Nolan couldn't get a job sweeping the floor in 40s Hollywood.

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>>217314184
>Everyone agrees
appeals to group acceptance
a woman's hands typed this

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>>217314214
>Guys like Fincher and Nolan couldn't get a job sweeping the floor in 40s Hollywood.
because they're not Jewish?

There is literally no reason to watch modern creations, the actors chosen for roles are effected and influenced by social political choice like race and sexuality, the dialogue and script is all influenced by the same nonsense, the plot, “lessons” or story arcs are influenced by the same factors, ultimately whatever artistic vision tou are getting is whatever 5 or 10% hasn’t been controlled or tampered with by the time you watch it. If you want to watch modern slop that’s cool and everything I don’t really care but to pretend it’s the same or better than past works without the same amount of meddling is completely retarded and asinine

I am mostly not watching new movies because they are bad and written by retarded women and fags and seething foreigners. But I am mostly watching older movies because the number I haven't seen still vastly outweighs the number I have seen even though I've seen a lot of stuff for a long time. It's also just naturally more interesting to watch a medium when it was in its prime and experimenting, unlike this living dead piece of shit we deal with now.

>>217314140
My post was just a joke. Only one anon here was lobotomized thoroughly enough to actually defend modern movies

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>>217314130
keep coping google boy
your degenerate side lost and you'll barely be a footnote in history

>>217314307
I watched that movie.

>>217314262
Because they are not talented, capeshitter.

>>217306576
Screenwriters used to be better. Furthermore, the lack of, or limited development of, computer graphics and digital cameras forced people to at least work and create something new.

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>>217314277
>>217314268
you're arguing with someone that has a fundamental misunderstanding between
> film
and
> movies


modern movies are just a collection of derivative skits. There is no effort to make art with cinematography or dialogue. Today, they just keep rolling digital film with endless adlibbing. Fix it in post editing.....no clear artistic picture

>>217314307
>It is the ambition of the authors of 'The Public Enemy' to honestly depict an environment that exists today in a certain strata of American life, rather than glorify the hoodlum or criminal.
That's from the start of the movie. Cagney didn't play a good guy.

>>217314048
Gone girl assumes that Rosamund left no tangible trace of witness of what shit did, which is retarded, and that the case is closed at the end by popular acclamation, which is also retarded.

The classic are classic for a reason and Gone Girl is shit.

>>217314251
Normality is normal, even if you don't like it.
Normality doesn't need any appeal from me.
It's called normality for a reason.

>>217314366
The Big Sleep barely has a coherent plot. Maltese Falcon is convoluted and nonsensical. The old movies were full of plot holes too.

>>217314329
The film/movie thing is a distinction without a difference. The medium has people aiming at different audiences and with different goals. Some things originally considered fluff get reinterpreted as art. The point for me is really that the whole medium is explored and dead, like the novel or the sculpture or the painting. Good examples of each are forthcoming but the media themselves are dead. Similar to the way there are punk and metal and dnb and etc albums released by the truckload every year in genres that are very much dead relics. Sometimes something good is dug up from the graveyard but nothing will ever reignite it because it is a technology from the past that has been just about fully mapped - the "avant garde" is not in these media anymore. There's plenty out there I've not seen and that would have a significant impact on me, so I'll keep on with the older shit while waiting for the new thing post-movies/film/whatever you want to call it.

>>217314306
Sometimes is so difficult to tell the difference, because even their "brightests" talk like people doing their best to make them look retarded by impersonating them

>>217314438
All I see is right wingers whining and crying about everything modern while not being able to explain why the old movies were supposedly so much better.

>>217314503
Everyone gets it dude, you really like that ugly piece of shit movie from Korea or whatever.

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>>217314387
>Normality is normal
chicks with dicks will never be 'normal', tranny

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>>217314503
>crying about everything modern
slop enjoyer

>>217314397
You say that because your precious modern movie was criticized. That or you couldn't follow those old movies kek

>>217314503
>All I see is right wingers whining and crying about everything modern while not being able to explain why the old movies were supposedly so much better.
See>>217314116

Nobody likes your shit. That's why the industry is in shambles since you monopolized it and everyone vote against you

>>217314828
Are you sure you answered to the right person?

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>>217315081
>Are you sure you answered to the right person?
at this point, does it matter
argue with EVERYONE

>>217315190
Fair enough

>>217314129
It’s called style, shit for brains

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>>217306576
Yep.
It's because I like movies.

>>217314214
True. They would be making big movies like today

>>217314329
>modern movies are just a collection of derivative skits.

As were old movies.

>>217314346
Gangsters were heroes of the 30s and production code was put in place to propagandise the public to think crime didn’t pay with hamfisted level of moralising and simplistic storytelling

>>217315289
Yeah, as as assistants

>>217315010
Even Raymond Chandler couldn’t explain the plot of the Big Sleep

>>217315325
>NO U
Cope, loser.
You were born after the last good movies and your small brain is gatekeeping you

>>217315333
Which is how you worked your way up into directing in those days.

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>>217306576
>mwaah see
>I'm the big swinging dick around thee'z parts see
>mwaahhhh

>>217306576
>what are your reasons?
I like old movies?

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>>217315325
>As were old movies.
tell me what modern film used enough forethought as this
https://youtu.be/nmWgRiGyd_4?si=N7rJLmnSUvNloIqe&t=371

>>217315348
That's nice

>>217309930
I'm not reading all this bullshit but I know from experience that you can pick any given film from the 80s or 90s that got a theatrical release and it will be better in every metric than the latest 2026 blockbuster. Hell, most made-for-TV movies fit the bill too. But just keep pretending you don't know what the problem is, that's much easier than directly confronting reality.

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>>217315395
>You look about as phony as a wooden nickel ya dirty stool pigeon

>>217313673
Paul Robeson was a communist tho

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>>217313673
The Green Pastures is a movie from 1936 with an all black cast and it’s about five hundred times better than any “black” movie that Hollywood has put out this century.

>>217315362
Yeah, and most stopped there, because the top tier had way better quality filters

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>>217315451
>This is a serious medical problem.

>>217315500
Like any Sidney Poitier movie.
And Shaft. The one with Richard Roundtree, not the remake.

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>>217315642
>Shaft.
>the remake.
what a pathetic attempt that remake was....hooo

>>217315700
Is that the recent (?) WOTW movie?
I heard it's some awful shit with people living the invasion through webcam, but that's beyond awful.

Fantasy and sci fi are really dead

>>217315269
fuck off poser

>>217315422
Not true at all.

>>217315500
Easy to make such claims when you hoot and holler racist slurs at every new movie featuring black actors and never watch them.

>>217306576
Yes but by old I mean made before 2011

>>217316054
Do they pay you to do this here or something or are you really this much of a seething bitch?

>>217314103
You sure sound like one

>>217316453
>You like things? You’re such a loser! Hating everything is what cool and smart people do!

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>"Old" film vs Modern era
the main difference isn't forcing browns as main characters, its how women are portrayed
You would have to not be a woman to notice this.
If you're a foid in 2025 you live in such a vacuum that anything short of Cpt Marvel or Anora, you get cognitive dissonance.

"Old" movies understood reality and that women played a role. There were things they could do and things they could not. You can write STRONG female characters without making them superman.
https://youtu.be/E7_BpvWDZy8?si=KNGsJscBwdUByDXs&t=191
women were portrayed as feminine and filling their roles >>217313606

Women in films today are shit talking, ass-kicking, beer-farting, psychopath whores

>>217316611
You saw a screenshot of an old movie and your first association were culture wars, you're mentally ill

>>217314048
Gone Girl came out 12 years ago, it will soon be reasonably called an old movie
Now try something released over the last couple of years

>>217316661
They were making plenty of movies about prostitutes and women not being mousy housewife caricatures from advertising

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>>217309930

>>217316889
You means films like Kid Detective, Last Night in Soho, Emily the Criminal? Yeah plenty of good shit is still being made

>>217306576
Yeah, since like 15 years ago

>>217306576
>I yearn for simplicity and rigid social pressure and conformity

Sheepish behaviour

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>>217316902
>They were making plenty of movies about prostitutes and women not being mousy housewife
yes, you they made movies about women being whores.....but they portrayed them as whores (REALITY)

Modern era has women >>217313752
>be-a-whore.png
being celebrated as empowered, strong, entrepreneurial fierce mothers and ridiculous Sgt Rock machismo badasses.
Both are equally retarded and cannot be taken seriously no matter how blue your hair is

>>217317010
>Kid Detective, Last Night in Soho, Emily the Criminal
absolute slop

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>>217317149
>Both are equally retarded and cannot be taken seriously
this is why SICARIO was so refreshing to audience whether they realized it or not.
> strong woman
> incompetent
> outmatched in a man's world
> crippled under pressure
you don't have to like it, but its true

>>217317104
The sheep are based

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check this one out

>>217317149
They were moralistic propaganda [THE MESSAGE] mandated by politics. Weird how you go ON NOM NOM NOM NOM when it fits your misogynistic ideology and screech when it doesn’t

>>217306576
Old movies looked cinematic. Every decision was carefully made. New movies look like commercials or YouTube videos. The Wicked movies are the worst offenders.

>>217306576

Define old movies. I mean, the 90´s were almost 30 years ago you know. Do you mean that? the 70´s? the 50´s? Obviously movies from Hitchcock or Fellini would count as old but at this point one could argue stuff like conquest of paradise, unforgiven, the untouchables, L.A confidential, dance with wolves, the man in the iron mask, interview with the vampire and so on would also fall into that category.

So basically my answer depends on what you mean by old...

>>217317874
the cutoff is the New Hollywood era

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>>217317492
>misogynistic ideology
REALITY
> women are feminine
> men are masculine
sorry, Breanne, you can't wear sweatpants everyday. Put your dick up

>>217306576
I don't watch movies made after 2001.

>>217306576
watching great old movies is just too easy, a lot of the good stuff has already been filtered by critics that had standards back then. There's just way too muh garbage movies these days and modern critics are both sellouts and ideologues.

>>217317967

But which one? 70´s? 90´s? mid 10´s?

>>217318043
All the things you bitch about applies to old movies

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>>217318157
>All the things you bitch about applies to old movies
that isn't to say they didn't make shit movies back then ("B-movie"), but i'd venture to say
1) the 'cost' of a movie production was greater back then, so you would've had to have a solid story, dialogue, casting to ensure you weren't just spitting out slop all the time
It today's world, they churn out shit all the time because its inexpensive to produce this dogshit and launder money better than the defense department.
2) way more than prior to the 70s, every production is another iteration of appealing to the largest target demographic. You might have a great story, but its gonna get BOGGED beyond recognition before you start filming, then later in post

>>217318118
New Hollywood is late 60s to late 70s

>>217306576
No. I'm not some ridiculous midwit. I watch whatever catches my interest.

>>217317010
lmao those are your idea of good movies? No wonder retards vehemently defend modern movies, any slop is good enough to satisfy their peanut brains.

>>217318292
toronto

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Yep. Mostly 80s-90s movies.
>IN BEFORE REE NOT OLD!!!
They're almost 40yrs old already. Get over it.

Oldest movie I remember watching and actually fairy enjoying is pic related

>>217319250
Yeah, that guy doesn't have any taste. Getting shit like this is to be expected, when people can't just lazily namedrop renowned classics.

>>217316661
You honestly sound like someone who hasn't seen many movies.
>>217317149
>portrayed them as whores
Usually in a sympathetic light. Examples: Nights of Cabiria, Life of Oharu, heh even The Stagecoach.

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>>217306576
Why would I want to miss out?

>>217306576
I dislike anything made on computers. That includes films shot digitally. It all looks sterile and fake.

>>217319356
Stop posting here, ANALogfag.

>>217306576
I recently developed a taste for watching mediocre technicolor movies, like Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Even better if they're mostly comedies. The elegant costumes, the architecture, how clean everything looks... I'm not very political (and certainly not American), but the white American aesthetics from the 1950s are comfy for me

>>217319283
>Oldest movie I remember watching and actually fairy enjoying is from 1962
It's always the biggest plebs with the shittest attitudes.

>>217319332
You're only now discovering that conservatards are complete philistines?

>>217319250
Those were just a few good noir movies from last couple of years.

>>217316661
>High Noon
That's a pretty funny example considering it's a movie conservatives deemed subversive and communist.

By the way, his wife kills one of the bad guys and saves his life. I'm guessing that's feminine enough so it's allowed?

>only watching old movies
Limiting yourself in such an arbitrary way screams manchild.

Staggering amount of false information/assumptions regarding modern cinema ITT. The way some of you shamelessly spread this shit makes me think censoring speech might perhaps be a good thing after all.

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>>217319500
>>only watching old movies
>Limiting yourself in such an arbitrary way screams manchild.

>>217319500
Not my fault only Hitchcock knew how to make movies.

>>217319641
Not really doing a good job proving the opposite, dude

>>217319368
No.

>>217319654
Hitchcock made slop of his time

The total rejection of modern film is comparable to an overreaction of the immune system. Except here it's a weak intellect doing the overreacting.

>>217319667
LARPer.

>>217319654
Hitchcock made loads of mid.

>>217306576
How old does a film need to be to qualify as "old"?

>>217308492
What was the last good movie?

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>>217319488
>I'm guessing that's feminine enough so it's allowed?
you're equating 'feminine' with weak. that's an indictment on your delusion, Joan. Put your dick up
There is nothing more powerful than a man filling his masculine role or a woman filling their feminine role. Together they are unstoppable
>>217319488
>it's a movie conservatives deemed subversive and communist.
couldn't think for yourself. Needs group opinion to formulate their own. Yep, you're the retard

The most brutal thing about this retarded conversation is that no matter how much I try to ignore the fact that I know very well what's what, giving ignoramuses like OP the chance to surprise me by bringing up something mind-blowing I haven't seen or even heard of yet, they never can. It's either blatant idiocy (appreciated) or pretense (condemnable).

>>217320055
So a feminine role is to kill people?

>>217319834
OP's mom's ghetto bang sex tape. It's called "Happy Conception Day, Lil Nigga".

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>>217320090
not OP but what are the modern movies that are bonafide cinematic FILMS?
I'm asking not looking for a fight. If you can define some, that'd be helpful
If you say any shit like Tarintotino or Capeshit....
>>217320113
>So a feminine role is to kill people?
she killed them with a gun from an ambush
she didn't scissor whip a grown man and snap his neck after trading punches

>>217319834
Lord of the Rings

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>>217320144
>OP's mom's ghetto bang sex tape.
ngl this WAS a masterpiece.
Normally the undercarriage vantage is a killer, but the bulls balls slapping the hell out of her ass in this movie I feel conveyed a level of domination that couldn't be expressed off screen