Oh no no no noPlinkett Siss, what is our response?
>>217312905Movie critics are wannabe filmmakers with no talent so they resort to reviewing films.
the prequels are bad movies.
>>217313070Let it go Mike. Just take the L and move on.
>>217312905posting twitter screencaps should be an automatic 3 day ban
>>217312905
>>217313070The funny thing is that presumably the prequels are being retconned in peoples brains as being good because they saw them as kids, but i saw them as a kid and they were fucking ass so I can only conclude that most people really are just fucking retarded.
Yeah it’s retarded but to be fair what are they trading that is disputed or what mechanic is being exploited by palpy to bring this about is never explored.The critique of RLM is more so about how contrived this is for Star Wars, it is trying to be this great literary work but is actually pretty shallow, also it really shouldn’t be trying to be super deep.
>>217312905I saw this post too, yesterday, but I never thought about bringing this crap here.
>>217313178I used to read that comic a decade ago but i forgot the name. Please tell me.
>>217313235Naboo’s main export is chrome, that’s why their ships are shiny
>>217313070Be that as it may "why are trade consortiums armed" is not a valid point of movie criticism.
The worst thing about Phantom Menace is the tonal whiplash. On one hand, you have the serious plot that is meant for adults with all the politics. But on the other you have the kid stuff, like young space hero Anakin and Jar Jar Binks. They are tonally and thematically so very different that they don't feel like they belong in the same movie.
>>217313204>The funny thing is that presumably the prequels are being retconned in peoples brains as being good because they saw them as kids, but i saw them as a kid and they were fucking ass so I can only conclude that most people really are just fucking retarded.2 is a good bit worse than 3 but 3 is a legitimate 7/10 and 2 like low 6. 1 is not good but that's mostly due to Jar Jar who is a monument to Lucas's arrogance. The dialogue and line delivery do however detract from the experience but it's not 2/10 like RLM would have everyone believe. Their opinions have also proven worthless considering they praised disney slop.
>>217313345why are they armed?>>217313359>They are tonally and thematically so very different that they don't feel like they belong in the same movie.Literally anime-tier storytelling.
>>217312905Stoklasa isn't the sharpest
>>217312905Mike is a fat retard with shitty takes, and deep down he knows he's been figured out with only an audience of dwindling, dumb slop enjoyers to pay the bills. This is why he drinks himself into obesity and hides behind pathetic and fraudulent attempts at ironic self-aware humour.
Reviews themselves have fanbases??I don't get it
>>217313259Use 4chans built-in reverse search.
>>217313204I still remember watching attack of the clones and feeling truly baffled by the whole Sypho dias thing. I also thought it was weird that Dooku was this bad ass character with a shit ton of relevance to the story and he's not even in it until like halfway through and then doesn't do anything
>>217313459>why are they armed?the galaxy is filled with pirates that the central government of the Republic either can't or does not do anything about
>>217312905I have no idea who Harry Robinson is
report eceleb threads as off topic
>>217312905Gen-Xers are notoriously fucktard.I have to explain the basic plot to my older brother all the time because his brain is fried for TDS & alcohol.
>>217313578And then everyone clapped.
>>217313204I remember watching them as a kid, thinking to myself "This should be good, right?" This was made by the same guy who did the original Star Wars. But I could intuitively tell they were shit.
>>217313604Hey my brother is so stupid he needs AI to sum-up films for him. In the middle of Micky 17 he asked his phone what the plot was about and spoiled the movie for us.
>>217313631When you say "kid" you mean 28 right?
>>217313070spbpThey are objectively shit movies.
>>217313359It's also directed in a really dated way. You can just tell Lucas is stuck in the 70's, and he was directing in the late 90's, when movies were experimenting at the time.
Prequel plot makes no sense though.Why would Palpatine told his henchmen, Count Dooku, to attack himself?
>>217313739It's a big budgeted Flash Gordon serial you silly tit. George is remaking his childhood.
>>217313528I always assumed Sifo Dias or whatever his name is was just Palpatine ordering the clones under an alias so that anyone investigating it would end up chasing a red herring like Obi-Wan did.I can't actually remember if it was a real guy because it's never brought up again.
>>217313791>Sifo DiasNever explained in the movie but he was a real guy. He had a seat on the Jedi council and would get force visions of the future. Once the blockade of Naboo happened he kept getting visions of a War and believed the republic needed an actual army. Jedi council disagreed and eventually they kicked him from the council. He went and started telling the Kamino cloners that he had the senates backing and they would fund the clone army. Palps somehow killed or captured him and found out about the clone army. Palps saw them as useful for the future and he's the one who actually payed for the clones. He just needed someone in the republic to find out about them so this could become a fully scale galactic war.
>>217313791After bothering to look it up it turned out that was the original plan, but then in true SW fashion they had to go "wait no we need to give him a proper backstory even though nobody cares" and then he was just some Jedi who got tricked by Plagueis into ordering them instead.
>>217313855>>217313858That's fucking stupid>originally George had his name as Sido-Dias to make it more obvious it was Sidious using a fake name>someone made a typo and he thought that sounded betterThe guy being a pseudonym works much better from a narrative perspective since everyone Obi-Wan speaks to has no idea who he is, even Mace Windu tells him there's never been a Jedi with that name so it's pretty fucking retarded to just retcon that to "oh uh actually there was but we all forgot about him lol"
>>217313359You're just spouting shitty rlm takes. Watch some certified kino like Twin Peaks to see what meaningless bullshit the 'tone' argument is. No one cared in ESB when threepio was constantly clowning while Luke was getting his hand sliced off and Han frozen alive. It's all disingenuous whining by OT manbabies.
>>217313070Literally only children and manchild adults enjoyed the prequels. They were the Disney sequels of their day and if you disagree, you're a zoomer who wasn't there.
>>217313948>They were the Disney sequels of their dayThat's not true people actually bought prequel stuff. Nobody buys Disney shit.
>>217313747If it's all just to convert Anakin
>>217313927anon. the ecelebs just compiled all the criticisms of the prequels. they didn't come up with any of them. they didn't change public perception. youtubers are populist by nature. no one watches videos of things they don't already agree with
>>217313966>muh merchstar wars survived the prequel era despite the prequels, not because ofthere's also the fun bit where the prequel merchandise actively killed toy collector culture. as every collector thought darth mute would be some ridiculously valuable toy in the future, so they bought all of them, which caused more to be produced, which they bought, etc, and now there's millions of unopened boxes sitting around some retard's self-storage unit.
Plinkett released a new one a few months ago about the current state of Star Wars
>>217314223buy an ad faggot
>>217312905These reviews should have focused on the wooden acting and dialogues.
>>217313204No fucking way, FUCKER! Zomg! Did we meet at DnD camp in 2016? Holy FUCKING fuck
>>217312905Anyone defending disney star wars has given up any right to shit on the prequels
>>217314291You should realize that the prequels are pastiches of 1930 serials that George watched as a child.
>>217314322It's the contrary.
>>217314327>they're supposed to be bad
>>217312905Someone wanted to french kiss Jar Jar it seems...
>>217314345I didn't say that.
>>217314362yes, you did.
>>217313235I like the entitlement of yourself. Being a 400lb loner on 4chan, while simultaneously withholding such entitlement you think yourself more talented than George Lucas. You're even directly criticizing it for being too shallow, while tacitly admitting you simply don't understand the plot in "they really shouldn't be trying to be super deep." Which, by the way, is the cherry on top. A statement not only made in complete lacking of self-awareness, but made at the behest of your most trusted petty-fag-on-twitter mindset; and said mindset ultimately failing you has no clue of dawning on your ego. The idea that an adult would not only type like you, but even more: the idea that you believe that reductive, childish thinking would make you a legitimately artistically inclined - or even intelligent - individual... I must say, "anon," you are quite the hoot and holler.
>>217312905why WOULD the trade federation have an army? it's basically just a shipping company
>>217314332The prequels are significantly better movies than anything disney has put out. The prequels also left star wars in a much better position than it is in today.
>>217314447anon. the plot of the prequels is sheev is super smart and everyone else is a doodoohead
>>217314291>These reviews should have focused on the wooden acting and dialogues.Yet another retarded RLM/Gen X cope. Prequels are some of the most quotable movies ever made, and the acting is supposedly so stiff and unlikable that people have made thousands of gifs, clips and reaction images from these movies. Makes sense if you're retarded.
>>217314450they're about on the same level as far as craft goes, both are quite bad, for different reasons.
>>217314515the plane scene became a maymay because of how utterly atrocious every single frame was.
>>217314490Very scholarly and wise retort! Not petulant or showing in emotional vitriol, whatsoever.. Heheheeee! Curious, sir! Curious!
>>217313948>they were the Disney sequels of their dayThat's retarded and you know it. "x was the y of its time" is fucking retarded especially for movies. Sequels were much worse movies. The prequels you can easily detach from the sequels. The sequels though, nothing Luke and friends did mattered at all and in the end they all become depressed jackasses. The only reasons prequels got more public hate was because criticizing the sequels meant you're "raciss sexisss xenophobiaaaa". You can try to argue otherwise but the lack of toys and video games prove me right.
>>217314534Which plane scene?
>>217314516No, that anon was correct. The Yidsney sequels are far worse.
>>217314558not really, no. the only difference is you don't have any nostalgia for the sequels.
>>217314548so you concede the prequels were quite publicly disliked when they came out.this is a good first step towards healing
>>217312905One of hte main consequences of being raised in an environment thick with semetic influence is the adoption of the maladeptive mindless of believing that pointless complaining and habitual criticism requires skill, should be rewarded, and is some how an important contribution to society.
>>217314581Actually, the difference is I'm not the one here being paid to mend audience reception of Yidsney's output!
>>217314604the truth is always important
>>217314602>reddit spacer can't read>reddit spacer wants to argue over nothing>reddit spaceNah I'm good.
>>217314604/thread
>>217312905>rewatching the Plinkett reviewFAGGOT
>>217314609>calling the sequels shit is somehow an attempt to mend audience reception ... anon this isn't healthy
Whoa
>>217314602By Gen X fanboys, sure. The target audience actually liked them. The prequel era was the golden age of Star Wars. We got tons of video games, cartoons, comic books, merch was booming like never before. It's the exact opposite with Disney era. They ran the brand into the ground and now it's completely dead. Nobody wants anything to do with Star Wars.
>>217314717>noooo it was only 30 somethings who disliked the prequels when they came outits funny how "millenial" as a generation is split directly in half between the people who'd never know a world without internet and people who would, and the two groups have exactly nothing in common.
>>217314078>speculators bought into a market they thought they could make money off>this somehow effects the films quality and killed a culture
>>217314784its cute how desperate you are to parse everything into an us vs them situation
>>217312905you could kind of acdcept those reviews until .. start they and the new trilogythey glazed those pieces of shit despite them having much more problems than prequels even
>>217313070>>217313204People elevate them in their minds simply because they have excellent art direction. George can't write or direct worth shit but the man knows what looks good and was able to get his art team to produce some of the coolest looking shit. As stupid as the clones being cloned off of Fett mixing boba fett with storm troopers makes a fucking badass design. That's why they get a pass with midwits. The films just have a cool aura. Maul? Shit character, cool looking dude. Grevious? Pointless, but fucking cool looking. It helps distract from the piss poor story and acting very well.
>>217313259We may never know.
>>217314874at this point its just funny how mad you are that internet people said things you don't like
>>217314814Why are you such a cloying faggot?
>>217313070The ONLY valid criticism is the dialogue and how that dialogue is delivered (shot/reverse shot, on a couch or walking down a giant green screen hallway). Dialogue in Star Wars was always shit because George is autistic. The setting, the premise, the characters, the plot, all KINO.
>>217315049because i knew it would make you mad
>>217312905I've not thought about Red Letter Media since 2015 and I assumed everybody else thought the same way.
>>217315058the premise is that sheev is smart and everyone else isn't. the characters are sheev and all the stupid people who do exactly what he wants. the plot is sheev is smart and everyone else isn't.
>>217314755Gen X were already on the internet over a decade before Millennials had the chance. Stop posting, dumby.
>>217315093>internet access was universal in 1997what a preposterous claim.
>>217315089That is how you personally reduce it. You, having achieved nothing with your supposedly superior talent and intellect.
>>217315136that's not a reduction, there's literally no way to expand it from that.
>>217315134Internet wasn't even on phones until the mid-2000s, and it still isn't universal. Gonna have to come up with a more inventive way to subvert reality.
The prequels are fucking gay and you're gay if you like them. Mike also has dog shit taste in movies so what he thinks doesn't matter either.
>>217315148That is evidently untrue, seeings as millions of people can and have surmised more. You seemingly lack basic inferential ability. I am sorry, anon.
>>217315165show me on the chart where reality gets subverted
>>217315179what is the reason [literally anything] happens in the prequels? answer: its part of sheev's plan to become emperor.
>>217314814You quite literally said people bought the toys with the express purpose of selling them later, it's not us vs them. The only reason the original Kenner toys were valuable were because they were actually taken out of the packaging and played with, so good quality figures are hard to come by. You can still find sealed Power of the Force figures because Star Wars became such a household name they made toys in the millions even before the Phantom Menace.It also didnt "kill collecting" because surprisingly, they still make Star Wars toys to this day, and people still buy and collect them
>>217315191Clever, but the internet is too well-documented. It has had public systems since the at least 70s, social networking since the 80s, and by the turn of the 90s a booming online culture. It didn't have to be availing to everyone. That isn't pertinent to the discussion. You're shifting goalposts.
>>217312905I respond by asking who Harry Robinson is.
>>217313204I saw them as a kid and loved them, sucks to be you I guess
>>217315228>thing existed therefore it was part of daily life for the entire planetdid the prequels make you this mentally ill or were you already?
>>217314448That isn't even a problem. Why they would put a blockade in place to protest against taxation... why they are a trade federation, thus needing trade, not blockades? Why they would want an occupation of a not commercially relevant planet to be legalized? What profit they would have? How that would change a policy of taxation in Coruscant?
>>217315252Why are you insisting upon a conclusion I never came to? Is this sincerely the only way you can argue? Let's stop putting words in my mouth and discuss this like adults. Obviously the entire planet didn't need the internet for there to be a culture. There were already millions of people using it in the mid-80s.
>>217313259Megg and mogg. Thats strips from crisis zone.
>>217312905>they should get jj abrahms
>>217315270>Why they would put blockade, saar?
>>217315223"collector culture" is the idea of buying toys and not opening them in hopes of selling them later. collectors were the main buyers of darth maul, assuming unopened toys would be valuable in the future. So the collectors bought them all out, and more were manufactured and shipped. The result was millions of units sold, very few opened. this was the last big movement of "collector culture." the "culture" never recovered.this is a thing that happened. mentioned only because it was a thing that happened and is tangentially related to the prequels.
>>217315296understandable given how Star Trek (2009) turned out
>>217315272maybe go re-read >>217314755
>>217315339I accept your tacit concession.
>>217313448>>217314962These are the closest to the truth. They are flawed but theres a lot to them and flaws dont negate the positive elements
>>217315386Anon, all you've done is quibble over the idea that the internet was mainstream for longer than it was. most likely because, you, yourself, never knew a world without mainstream/ubiquitous internet, and thus project your childhood perceptions further back into the past than they are relevant.read: called it.
>>217314962The art designs are good, the direction is kinda ugly sometimes, especially with the vistas.
>>217315417the "positive elements" of the prequels are jangling keys.
>>217315093Not that anon, but what are you even saying? I was born in 83, and I was on Slashdot in 1998-1999 reading about TPM. Then it came out and everybody shat on it because it sucked. How would somebody born in 1996 remember that? He's right, the internet completely broke the generation in half, and "millennial" is meaningless.
its funny to me how the pod-racing stands and coliseum are mostly miniatures, but color graded to look like shitty CGI. then the third movie has basically no practical effects.
I always laugh at their joke/idea of having a massive runway when all the aircraft just lift off and land vertically
>>217312905ADULTS CANNOT UNDERSTAND CHILD LEVEL IDEASCHILD LEVEL
>>217315532>its supposed to be bad
Reminder that she won and BedWetterMedia never recovered.
>>217312905The fact that these "adults" can't understand child-level ideas, and yet their votes cancel out the votes of people 10x smarter than them is, to me, the #1 fatal flaw of democracy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKm4ueVuxpYThe idea that "everyone should have a voice, every voice needs to be heard" is fatal in a society made up almost entirely of fucking retards.
Prequelfags are more likely to be brown.
>>217315711"understand" and "like" are not synonyms anon.
>>217315711>So Mike, what did you think of TFA>It was everything I ever wanted.>Daisy Ridley was charismatic as HELLNever let them live this down.
>>217315775there is already nothing lower than eceleb. well, those who give ecelebs attention.
>>217315801Well, there are Indians like you.
>>217315827... anon... brown views drive basically all youtube content.
>>217313204while 1 and 3 have some cool moments sprinkled in shitepisode 3 is fucking great and I will not take this slanderthe opening stuck with me all these yearshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFjcmySE_lk
>>217315894>episode 3 is fucking greatIf you have the opportunity, you should kill yourself.
>>217312905Well now that some random faggot on twitter said it, I suppose it's worth making a thread about
>>217315894the third one seems better because its generally more competent than the other two, but it still shit. the first two set expectations for the third so low that it only needed to be remotely tolerable to be well received.
>>217315929prequelfags have been fuming over the statements of random internet people for almost 20 years now. why would they stop?
>>217314962>George can't write directHe's written and directed plenty of movies including those that are highly regarded like American Graffiti and the first Star Wars. One thing that shows in the prequels is that he doesn't like directing big budget movies and he made things as easy as possible for himself, which at worst is laziness. To say he has no talent ot that he doesn't know what he's doing is just rlm levels of arrogant stupidity.
>>217313894Kek o forgot Mace says that. The Plagueis book, which is kino, has him in scenes with Obi wan, Qui Gon, and Dooku iirc. >>217313858So did George conceptualize the change as a new character or did he just like the actual typo better than the obvious pseudonym?
>>217313747>Why would Palpatine told his henchmenESL retards don't get to complain about shit they are too stupid to understand
>>217312905Assume Naboo is roughly Earth-sized. Assume blockade is ~100km above surface.Assume each ship can perfectly cover 100km radius around it.The sphere they need to cover has area ~5.31×10^8 km^2.Each ship covers ~31415 km^2.Trade federation would need about 18000 of those ships to actually blockade the entire planet. It would be nice if Star Wars actually operated on that scale. Instead they have like 10 ships right next to each other.Yeah its retarded.
>>217315974or its proven by how poorly made the prequels were. that whatever spark he had (or was near) during new hollywood was long gone.
>>217315942>>217315913agree to disagree, I watched last year standalone and it still holds up to me overall
>>217316052it didn't "hold up" when it came out, despite your nostalgia for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUgpuLJ8Xmk
>>217316013i liked the part where in attack of the clones, when it seems like something actually cool will happen on screen, a dust storm sweeps in so they won't have to render more than a few soldiers/vehicles
>>217314962Pods are badass because they're fucking space chariots which is sick
>>217316013They used hundreds of those donut ships. You've pulled numbers from your ass just so you can whine about the prequels some more. Plinkett's reviews are full of this empty, meanibgless criticism. No one who doesn't already have an irrational hatred of George Lucas or the prequels takes this shit seriously.
>>217315974>which at worst is lazinessA filmmaker not having respect for the amount of effort required to make even the most basic possible shot appealing is, at best, incompetence.
>>217315089It's more like>everyone else has normal, political, material goals; Trade Federation wants free trade, Republic wants to tax them and be gay>Sheev knows they will come to conflict and uses his political power and infinite finances to play both sides Sheev is not a super-mega-genius, he just has loftier goals, infinite resources, and no allegiances to anyone. Basically he's Jewish
>>217312905Imagine trying to defend the fucking trade federation I'm in love with you fucking losers. I've only watched the original Star wars and Star wars episode 1. The phantom menace I was a fucking child. I enjoyed everything about the phantom menace as a fucking 8-year-old except literally everything that had to do with the fucking trade federation. Them fucking stupid. Goofy looking aliens were some of the most boring aspects of a movie that really wasn't good at all. Who watches any of the fucking prequels as like you know what was really good and really necessary all the trade federation bullshit. That's the hill that I want to die on. But that's just this dude's opinion who has sex and doesn't watch fucking and Star wars at all
>>217312905>critic critics
>>217316439bruh even the east India trading company paid taxes. Going to war with the people you trade with because you’re not making enough money trading with them isn’t a sustainable model.Also didn’t imply sheev is a “ super-mega-genius.” He doesn’t need to be, as everyone else is astoundingly stupid.
>>217316523>Going to war with the people you trade with because you’re not making enough money trading with themLiterally happened CONSTANTLY in history. Anti-prequel Plinkettites show themselves to be ignorant retards again and again
>>217315324With the same results in Star Wars.
>>217316480
>>217316548Feel free to back up your claims of wars started by trading companies, against the nations they traded with, because they weren’t making enough money trading with said nation. this should be good.
>>217316614>NO NO NO YOU CAN'T LIST COUNTRIES OR STATES THEY HAVE TO BE TRADING COMPANIES SPECIFICALLYYou're a cückold, coward, and a fraud, but even following your sissy Reddit pussy request I can do so easily. Here's an entire list for you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Dutch_conflicts
>>217316685The trading federation isn’t a country or state.
>>217316614You're a moron
>>217315089Sheev isn't smart. He's lucky that everyone around him is dumber than him.
>>217316730>[description of the plot of the prequels]>you’re a moronI didn’t write them.
>>217313158Declaring what should and should not be banned should be an automatic three day ban.
>>217316725and neither Dutch East India Company.
>>217316614The Galactic Republic isn't a "nation", and neither is the Trade Federation affiliated with any nation. And if a trade conglomerate suddenly started getting taxed after centuries of no taxation whatsoever, odds are they'd be pretty pissed, yeah. The Republic had very minimal armed forces at this point, too. So what's stopping the Trade Federation from pressuring the Senate into rescinding the new taxes by threatening random planets?>b-but this didn't happen in real lifeSo? No shit you absolute retard, why should it matter at all?
>>217316725Yes, and you specified that because very few trade organizations in history became powerful enough to have their own militaries, but I obliterated your sissy clitty homo-argument anyways.
>>217314448The British East India Company had an army.
>>217316768It doesn’t happen in real life because no one is stupid enough to do such a thing.
>>217316775I specified that because examples of nations going to war over bad trade isn’t relevant to the plot of the prequels.
>>217316768NTA but the Trade Federation had about 20 other options than to blockade a planet of no consequence that isn't even effected by their blockade. Shoulda just cut the bullshit and start off with the TF seceding from the Republic.
>>217314448To protect their trade interests.
>>217316812But that wouldn’t have caused a civil war
>>217316794I never said the Trade Federation was smart, in fact yeah the whole move was pretty retarded, which was the entire point : the plan didn't make sense unless you were Darth Sidious, in which case it worked perfectly.
>>217316871>everyone is supposed to be stupid
>>217316847Anon that's literally what started the US civil war.>South gets tarriffed to hell>Plantation economy suffers>Southern states secede>Union doesn't want that lost revenue and continues to treat the states as Union holding via their forts>Sumter is attackedThe rest is historty>Buh buh slaves.Ancillary cause at best.
>>217316884In case you didn't notice, the Nemoidians are greedy as fuck, and they're also scared of their ally, so they're in full sunk-cost-fallacy mode hoping things will turn out okay, so yeah, they've been stupid, and shortsighted. They even admit as much : "We should not have made this bargain." What more do you want?>but characters should be fucking infaillibleYeah fuck right off.
>>217316775I’ll never understand why autists think broadcasting their degenerate fetishes harms others.
>>217313739The Prequels are pioneering films in the realm of digital filmmaking. ILM invented many technologies still used today specifically to make these movies. You may not like the movies but to say they weren't experimenting is just wrong.
>>217316911not seeing any trading companies in that rundown of the US civil warits like you can't tell the difference between a trading organization and a nation.
Palpy thinking two space asians could kill two jedi masters was fucking stupid. He didn't even give them any idea about how to go about it. Then later he sends his apprentice to do the work. So is palpatine so fucking stupid that he thinks these space asians are up to the task on an equal footing as a sith master? This shit makes about as much sense teenage fanfics
>>217316954There is literally no indication why the fuck the Nemodians would trust Sidious other than fear which is a piss poor explanation. If the TF were this scared of Sidious they'd have run back to the Republic for safety and just accept the cut to their profits
>>217316954characters should make sense. when characters don't make sense, because that's the only way your plot can work, its called an idiot plot. the prequels are an idiot plot. start to finish. the tone set with the first dialogue exchange being, "hey should we investigate this further with our magical powers?" "no, that would be foolish, also really hard to write."
>>217316998digital filmmaking has been a disaster outside of a very small number of movies.
>>217317000Again, why are you so focused on real-life events when discussing a fucking science-fiction franchise? Even worse, a science-fiction franchise whose political system is drastically different from anything we know in real life?>>217317018>hey Trade Federation I'm a Sith Lord>ooooh spooky>I also control the Senate>ooooh nice>wanna make a ton of money by taking over this planet and its resources? I'll make it legal, and in exchange you let me operate there>dealThat's literally how easily the conversation could have gone. Not that complicated, everyone profits, pretty solid plan overall.
The prequels are dogshit terrible for so many reasons that whether or not there are logical issues with the fucking Trade Federation is entirely irrelevant.
>>217316588I fear these types of guys whose face is all widely different ages depending on which part of the face you look at.
>>217317068>why are you so focused on the plot of the prequels?
>>217312905Imagine being this upset
>>217317107Because this is a thread discussing the prequels. But by all means, please explain how talking about historical examples of trading companies warring with nation-states is relevant in a setting where there are no nation-states and no trading companies in the sense that we envision them.
>>217317139>its okay for nothing to make sense in these movies because these movies contain nothing that is an analogue for real world things...
>>217313070SPBP
>>217317068>hey Trade Federation I'm a Sith Lord>what's a sith?>I also control the Senate>weird because we have a huge influence on the senate ans have never heard of you>wanna make a ton of money by taking over this planet and its resources? I'll make it legal, and in exchange you let me operate there>how?>ummmm>fuck off you scamming Jeet
>>217317015Never seen this movie. It's pretty dumb to just have two guys on the whole ship. How did they fly it and operate everything? George is a hack1!
>>217317156>Palpatine's plan with the Trade Federation doesn't make senseI understood it as a child, anon, do you mean to tell us you're retarded, is that it?
>>217312905>I SAY JARJAR>YOU SAY SORRY
>>217317189who are you quoting?
>>217317173Obviously it didn't happen like this because in the movie Sheev convinced them and put his plan in action. You lose!
>>217317173>what's a sith?This is a matter of common knowledge in the galaxy, considering the Old Republic exists because it defeated them. They're supposed to be extinct, true, but it wouldn't be very hard to wave a red lightsaber around and convince a bunch of clueless Nemoidians you're the real deal, especially when you actually are the real deal>weird because we have a huge influence on the senate ans have never heard of youThen they'd be complete fucking retards because Palpatine actually does have immense influence, he gets elected Supreme Chancellor for fuck's sake, you really think the sympathy vote alone got him there?Try again.
>>217317189you didn't "understand" it, you just accepted what the characters said. there's a massive difference.
>>217317263>be influential and ambitious senator>make a bunch of idiots invade my home planet>use the crisis as an opportunity to oust the Chancellor and replace him>???>profitOh yeah, so fucking complex and nonsensical, truly one would need a genius-level intellect to get it.
>>217317247They literally don't know he's palpatine dumbfuck
>>217317311yes, the ??? parts of the idiot plot are what we're discussing.
>>217317322They don't need to, he could easily prove his influence by having some minor targeted legislation passed without unveiling his identity.
>>21731290590% of RLM criticism of PT is like that. People are actually fucking stupid for parroting their takes.
>>217317363>as you see I passed sb 5643>the bill introduced by Palpatine >uuuuh>holy shit your Palpatine, why do you want us to blockade your planet?
>>217312905He's right, they are piss-poor critiques. People got bamboozled by the Plinkett reviews because of its humor. It made ppl laugh a lot, they were very entertained, and so it helped convince them that what Mike was saying made any sense. It contributed greatly to a wave of unreasonable George Lucas hate (anti-Lucasism) which in short order, led to Disney and JJ destroying the franchise. Some suspect RLM and Disney conspired together and I am among those based people.
>>217317247>This is a matter of common knowledge in the galaxy, considering the Old Republic exists because it defeated them.Isn't a main plotline that nobody remembers (outside old jedis) that the sith exist and that's how they infiltrate into power?
>>217317391the ecelebs are the one parroting criticisms posted to slashdot and such.
>>217317392Okay so you think an influential senator would absolutely NEED to introduce a bill himself if he'd want to see it passed. You're a retard, gotcha, that does makes things easier.
>>217313070The Room is a bad movie. Prequels are the cool fantasy drama with standout character cast, great spectacle and of highest technical quality at that moment. They are objectively good movies.
>>217317405Even worse, even the Jedi are convinced the Sith no longer exist. They don't even believe Maul is an actual Sith, at first.
>>217317423they are special effects without a story
>>217317435they kinda forgot the sith existed
>>217317465sheev was casting force stupidity on them, not their fault
>>217317463But enough about Blade Runner, Oppenheimer, Ready Player One, Toy Story 4, Zodiac, The Cube and Tron
>>217317465It's more complicated than that, they knew the Sith were a thing (everyone knows, it's a major piece of galactic history) but they legitimately think they went extinct and all died. Which isn't too far-fetched considering at some point there was literally just one Sith Lord left.
>>217317463>without a storyjust in this thread they explained it many times. you are just dense.
>>217317486whatabouting doesn't suddenly make the prequels into good movies. of course you think a worse movie existing elevates the prequels, so why am i even talking
>>217312905>close to 20 years of bitching about your hitty garbage cartoons getting bad youtube reviewsYou fags will never be free.
>>217317415It's really easy to see who is pushing which bill when you have bureaucrats working for you. You think the big oil lobby doesn't know who is pushing which bill? This is before you take in consideration political parties.
>>217317539You're here, so you're in the same boat, pal, sorry to say.
>>217317482I still don't get how you can kill a dragon or a sith lord with a giant spear>>217317496>everyone knows, it's a major piece of galactic historyI don't think everybody knows anon. iirc jedis and siths are treated like troy or king arthur tales, embellished stories with magic powersPeople don't believe the force is real either right?
>>217317517>so why am i even talkingI dunno, you've been replying to me for the last half hour
>>217317551anon, that's at best admitting you're retarded.
>>217317561I mean, under the Galactic Republic everyone knows the Jedi are an actual thing with actual superpowers. Even though there aren't much more than 10.000 of them, they'd be pretty difficult to miss considering how closely they work with the Senate. Even in bumfuck nowhere Tatooine, slave kid Anakin still knew who they were and that they had laser swords.The nature of the Force, though, most people probably don't really understand, or just see it as a religion or something.
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>>217313204same deal here.Got permanently turned off from star wars from watching this dogshit as a kid and I'm still baffled to this day that mental midgets like this franchise. They're up there with people who like MLP and Barney.
>>217313642Based chad not wasting his brainpower on your toddler films
>>217317539you don't understand. they grew up insulated from all public perception of the prequels. then they start going on the internet and someone compiled all the criticisms of the movies and people are AGREEING with them. their reality irrevocably changed that day.
>>217313070The prequels are the only good Star Wars movie along with the KOTOR games.
>>217317730Don't lump the Kotor games with the prequels. Those games don't deserve to be insulted.
>>21731762710k people in an universe 10 million light years wide sounds like trying to find a hay in a needlestack, couldn't blame people from the other side of the far far away galaxy to believe jedis are a hokey religion and sith a myth to keep the blue collar worker meek
>>217317185>Never seen this movie>two guys on the whole shipI never mentioned a ship. Are you sure you havent seen it and are just being retarded anon?
>>217317760if only they had an order of clairvoyant space wizards capable of remote viewing and all other manner of superhuman feats
