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New Natty Varang Edishy

Previous Pinker Proliferation >>217331664
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>>217346188
She's STILL hot what the fuck
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>>217346150
I figure it's most important for the sea na'vi, less so for others but still respectable. I get it, whales are a special kind of cause celebre for environmentalist types and it basically creates the same phenomenon as dragons or wolves or horses (for girls). And they (our whales) are probably near peers for us for intellect and the cruelty and selfishness of "Let rich people live forever serum".

It just felt a bit over the same territory for me. But apparently they upped the tulkun representation because fans liked it (From what I am reading) so I am an outlier.
>>217346117
Shit actually I never stopped to realize that'll hit spider too. He's going to be full on mid 20s or so.
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>>217346188
>There is a very real chance this is the last avatar film
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>>217346315
No there isn't.
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>>217346315
If James Cameron is smart, he will recognize that 4 needs to be ending and stop banking on getting another trilogy out of it. This franchise definitely does not have the legs to get us a 5th and 6th movie if his plan is still to keep letting the studio decide on greenlighting the next one based on box office performance. 4 is 1000% never breaking a billion and he needs to drop his ego and recognize that.
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>>217346235
>cat yowling stock sound
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>>217346387
It could make 2 billions if it was actually fucking good not this horribly written slop that just keeps going in circles.
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I need a woman like Varang bad.
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>>217346387
2, 3 and 4 were supposed to be the trilogy lol. He just couldnt help his ocean and water autism from making 2 even bigger and splitting in two, causing 3 and 4 to become 4 and 5
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>muh it was always supposed to be one film split in two

Then why is it the exactly same plot twice? That's not how movies work.
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>>217346444
Shoulda just had some shangri la in the mountains for the snow experience that'll have melted snow. Water-caverns and shit. Honestly it feels like he wanted the water tribe to be the titular Na'vi more than the forest people.
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>>217346387
Nah
The Mangkwan Clan and the whole Quaritch arc is very clearly a kino goldmine, and if Jimbo plays his cards right he can certainly get Avatar 5. Beyond that, however, would be stretching it. I think it would be a better idea to create some in-between content, some animated series, or something, to keep the hype.
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>>217346387
He's been hyping up 4 as the greatest of them all and his magnum opus since before 3, which means he apparently thinks it's better than 5, the final film, as well.
If he's actually right about that then 4 will do well and 5, following that momentum and being the finale, will probably do better no matter how good it is.
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>>217346463
That's exactly why the plot is the same.
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>>217346434
>>217346540
>>217346542
Trends don't lie, the diminishing returns are real. People don't care about this and the novelty of the first one is long gone. The 4th will make nowhere near what 3 is making right now. It's over.
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>>217346601
That's all on Jim. Characters are boring and it's always the same story. Nobody even likes Navi anymore.
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>>217346555
How? What movie repeats the exactly same plot twice? Stop defending this bulllshit.
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>>217346235
Varang's kitty :3
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>>217346601
I mean, I certainly like Fire and Ash a lot more than Way of Water, but I see your point and I don't disagree.
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>>217346235
NANC
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>>217346601
2 overperformed because of the timing, it's slower than this so people probably thought this would be slow. But people who saw 3 are going to know 4 will be amazing.
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>>217346405
great look, like a fucking panther
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>>217346387
He's going to film 4 and 5 at the same time. So either they both happen or neither do
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>>217346726
>>217346425
>>217346405

*smooch*
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>>217346828
Shouldn't you be wingmanning Lyle, Quaritch?
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>>217346871
Is he not allowed to use the money he made from the previous films to fund the new ones? Cause the first two movies earned enough to fund the others. I don't get this discussion lol
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>>217346387
5 is intended to be the ending, but he did say he has ideas if there is still enough interest for further films and would even consider training a successor to continue it since he is pretty old now.
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>>217346188
se'xo
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>$1,500,000,000 isn't enough revenue in today's world
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I legitimately want a film set between 1 and 2 that is just zero conflict and all about Jake and Neytiri raising their family and exploring Pandora more.
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>>217346901
4 and 5 are 100% going to happen unless Cameron decides not to do them, the guy's just trolling for (You)s

Fire and Ash will make more than the last 3 MCU films combined and will do massive numbers streaming, the Avatar world is one of the premiere attractions at Disney World, and they apparently really like the script for 4. Cameron has also talked about how he's storyboarded like a half dozen Avatar multimedia projects for Disney, including a Disney+ animated anthology series.
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>>217346601
I'm not pessimistic like you are but I do wonder if it isn't that other cinematics have caught up so the difference is not as stark. Crysis was the best you could hope for, I was originally using an Asscreed 2 from 2009 clip that is AWFUL. But that's how most people encountered video games - asscreed, gta. On a scale of life-like Avatar 1 was let's say 90-100 (depending on your view) while video games couldn't even breach 50%.

Now compare video games and avatar now. Avatar is still better by far obviously, I'd say closer to 100% than ever. But video games are now less sub 50% on the way and more like 60-75% or something. There isn't as much as a wtf-wow-novelty as before where compare
2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSNL1qE6VY
2008 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xP5x5DVeU

Or switch the years if I got the GTA link wrong

So someone who is just brainlessly interested in nothing but spectacle wouldn't feel the same pull to avatar 3 as they did 1. I don't agree with the pessimism though - I just do get that it doesn't have the same tech wow as it did before.
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Can Quaritch just fucking die already? At this point I feel like he's going to knock up Varang and 20 years from now we'll be watching Avatar 9 where his children are fighting Lo'ak's kids.
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>>217347042
Quaritch is the real protagonist at this point, Jake is just the everyman intro character to get us comfortable before the actual story starts.
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>>217347035
I still can't believe Avatar was made in 2009, the CG is ungodly good. Even movies coming out right now have shittier CG than these films.
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>>217347053
>Quaritch is the real protagonist at this point
you spelled Neytiri wrong
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Hatred of the invading enemy is a most humane feeling. But it is born with such a pain of heart and torment of the soul that God forbid anyone to experience it a second time -Pavel Batov

>loses her sister
>loses her father
>loses her hometree
>loses her ikran
>watches half a forest burn as the sky people return
>forced to leave her tribe and home
>forced to live with sea tribe who hate her kids
>loses her eldest son
>accidentally breaks her father's bow
>watches her greatest enemy threaten to slice her adopted daughter's throat
>watches her youngest daughter get sucked down a hole into a sky people monstrosity
>thinks that she and her daughter are going to drown surrounded by cold metal
>has to bury her son far from her home and tribe

Neytiri is for suffering
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>be Neytiri
>fall in love with Jakesully knowing full well he's really human
>forgive him almost instantly after finding out he was feeding the sky demons information, betraying you and your people, and indirectly getting your father killed and your home tree burned to ashes
>spend a decade and a half getting railed by him in a tree every night while hearing his clearly human accent
>give birth to several kids that all have some human features
>be completely cool with Grace when she was still alive, and both Norm and Max for many years later, even though they are still flesh and blood humans

>is that a human that was born here and never harmed any of us in any way, who adopted our ways, grew up playing with my kids and has shown nothing but loyalty and love to my family his entire life?
>KILL KILL DIE DIE

why?
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>Do you really like it without my paint, Anon-Skyman?
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Biblical Imaginery

-"Eywa" = "Yahweh", a simple reversal of the abrahmic sky daddy god.
-The character name "Grace Augustine" is fully loaded with christianity. "Grace" is a specific theological state where you get right with god. Augustine was a theologian and saint.
-In the third movie, one of the Ash people pokes Quaritch in his obliques with a spear, drawing a bit of blood. This is like the Lance of Longinus for Evangelion fans, or: the holy spear.
-Varang's tight little horizontal binder is sometimes worn with a vertical stripe of paint or paints, clearly forming a cross.
-The third film specifically makes general appeals to faith and belief, especially the opening argument between Jake and Ney (and Jake really ought to know better, since he lived the proof of his god at the climax of the first film).
-In the first film, when the much larger Neytiri cradles Jake's weak human body, this pose is taken directly from the Pieta (mary cradles the dead jesus). The Michelangelo sculpture is the best known example, but it's a genre thing with other instances.
-"Tulkun". The sound of this word is suspiciously close to the jewish theological concept of "tikkun". In rough strokes, the jewish/kabbalastic notion of tikkun is: the world is broken and wrong, and various troublesome things in the world (qlippoth) obstruct our clear view of reality. Therefore, we should endeavor to repair the broken world that we inhabit.
-And then of course, the Na'vi are waging jihad against the occupying humans.
-Jake is short for Jacob
-Jacob took his brother Esau's inheritance by wearing goatskins on his arms so his father would think he was Esau
-Jake literally wears his brother's Avatar and takes his place in the program
You can stretch it any way you like, but the abrahamist stuff is a major informer.
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>>217347106
they should've kept the stabbing scene in, her rage was justified
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>>217346629
>Nobody even likes Navi anymore.
Varang memeatic power managed to ressurect the real fandom and not the pretty things fandom
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>tfw you're looking forward to a relaxing weekend doing nothing but playing vidya but your gf comes up with the most god awful plan ever fucking conceived
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>Avatar 3
They will met a tribe of desert na'vis and will be used as metaphors for jews, muslims, indians and aussie abos.
They do a thing called tailcut in which they cut their neuro tail's hairs leaving only the tentacles outside.
>Avatar 3
Na'vi of the ice, eskimos and sami anologies, they kill alien seals and even though the others navis find it horrible they will say how it's part of their culture and social right.
>Avatar 3
Na'Vis will enter the space age and become like the humans they fought so badly.
Pandora will be polluted, they will start colonizing another planet.
And so the cycle starts again.

Also Eywa will be proved to be a neuro-abomination that sent it's spores on earth and created the myth of God, Jesus, Zeus, Odin, Shiva, Quetzalcoatl and whatever else there is.
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>>217347342
Don't take it for granted anon. I'd give anything to have that back with my ex :(
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>>217346654
The climax of 3 is a lot more like 1+2 combined, which no one with your take mentions so, opinion in valid
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>>217347342
cute.......
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>>217347342
Maybe you're a fag, you ever think of that?
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>>217346669
pussy tent
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>>217347396
Varang and her fire na'vi ARE oceanian abos, or at least spiritually cannibal abos.
Varang headress looks just like the torres straight islanders headress in the british museum, a tribe that's related to aussie aborigines and papuan aborigines, both cannibals.
The Mangkwan are a cautionary tale over what noble savages can become if you let your brutal instincts take over and change your tribe into low iq rapists and pillagers addicted to smoke
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>>217346944
me too
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>>217347518
They're more like the Crow Indians.
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Post Varang's theme song
https://youtu.be/x6fB8KMUnz0?si=DCAvH-POKkfaQBjI
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>>217347420
if that's true why'd you leave, fag?
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>>217347546
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>>217346921
um akchully it's only 1.200.000.000. and yes, that's not enough by today's standard when adjusted for marketing and inflation
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>really need to piss
>can't get up
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>>217347715
>let me show you something babe, it's called lemonpie, all the cool warlords' gfs let them do it
>hmmm ok quareetch
>attagirl
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>strong emphasis on the value of family
>reject globalist modernity, return to a natural way of life, be at one with nature
>no homosexuality whatsoever
>male and female characters that are distinct from one another, no gender confusion overlapping stuff, men are men and women are women

I don't get it, it's 2026, this shouldn't be popular or making money at all
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>>217347715
>"Goddamnit, Sully, now I get it."
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>>217347656
I didn't. She did.
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>>217347757
Eywa is the ultimate globalist though
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>>217347796
>not taking the cuckseat in the cuckchair in the cuckroom like a good boy
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>>217347805
The different Na'vi regionalities have different beliefs and technologies and are territorial, the different subraces are racist against each other.
Eywa enforces a natural order that ensures globohomo will never happen.
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>>217346463
>Then why is it the exactly same plot twice?
It isn't.
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Thoughts on the Wind traders?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH9FMIGeDyk

Apparently they're the most technologically advanced
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>old dog blessed with a new life ahh smile
https://vxtwitter.com/heartsofcinder/status/2005414766760575137.mp4
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>>217347909
>sky jews
terrifying.
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>>217347106
She should rape Quarritch and keep his baby in her womb for 9 months, because she hates him
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>>217347909
>Thoughts on the Wind traders?

Would have been nice if they didn't exist just to get their shit decimated in 15 minutes flat.
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>>217347909
>>217347968
>wE cAnNoT cHoOsE SiDe
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>>217347909
>Totally not Airbenders bro


Also, the way they have those jellyfish things and the other flying animal essentially enslaved to pull their ships feels rather anti-Na'vi.
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alright bros , would you rather:
>be chained to a bed and let varang do whatever she wants or you convince her to/not to do during 1 hour
orrrr
>be left inside a tent with a slumbering neytiri who won't wake up no matter what but jake can walk in at any moment without notice for 15 minutes
chose very wisely, and don't think (too much) with your dick
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I still find it weird how this series treats breasts, like all the Na'vi women are technically topless but they usually have necklaces or something else conveniently placed to hide the nipples, but then in many other shots they are plainly visible
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>>217348018
Varang. She'll just drug me and ride my dick, nothing to be afraid of.
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>>217346188
>If you invade someone's land, burn their houses down, desecrate their religious buildings, and steal their resources, you too can get a hot catgirl gf
What did James Cameron mean by this?
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>>217348018
2 but I sit on the opposite side as far away from Neytiri as possible because ruining marriages and molesting sleeping women is for monsters
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>>217348050
He took the Conquistador pill

>>217348033
Yeah, this baffles me as well. You can clearly see Neytiri's nipples a few times in this one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4PenO2M5_M
new vid
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>>217348052
based peeping thomas
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>>217348018
>choose either
>lose consciousness and suffocate to death because humans can't breathe on Pandora
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>>217347152
She looks white
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>>217348018
if this is a hypothetical where Quaritch doesn't exist and I'm the only Human Man she's met, yes I've got his shit in the bag and we will be married by the day after tomorrow
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Recom Centipede
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>>217348117
this is the kind of shit Neytiri sees in her nightmares
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>>217347981
They were apparently here as a tease for a larger role in 4 and 5.
You know, if coy little James ends up making them, *tee hee*.
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>>217348107
>Varang will never be mad at you for looking at her tail instead of staring into her eyes after she drugs you
Life isn't fair
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>>217348066
yay thanks
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>>217348154
no i def would be sinking into those things zonked out my mind, tails are a dime a dozen when you're an alien fucker like me
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>>217347909
>air nomads who travel on large flying animals, seek to avoid conflict and whose leader fights with a staff
Did he do it on purpose?
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>>217348215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsN3aP-2YNI
Nothing about Avatar is unintentional on Jimmy's part
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>>217348260
>comes up with pages upon pages of details for something
>it's in the movie for like 5 seconds and mostly unexplained
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>>217348183
np
there's actually a few more too but they're all only like 3-5min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mps_3oGMZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtEO5Z4b-I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHDs-4quso0
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>>217348052
>he doesn't ruin marriages as a hobby
dilate
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How big are Na'vi turds compared to human turds?
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>>217348291
>comes up with pages upon pages of details for something

it's gonna be sad when cameron passes away
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>>217348392
He just did, RIP
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>>217348408
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>>217348428
RIP
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>>217348354
>Jake trying to convince Neytiri it's a human tradition for the wife to poop on her husband's chest every night
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>>217348215
Well if their way of life involves moving between different clans then they have to be neutral, otherwise imagine the damage they could cause as merchants. They could fund any clan with a grudge, profit off a massacre, then betray their allies to cover it up, then profit off charity for the defeated group, etc.

They also can't live as close with nature, so they have to adapt by learning and respecting the customs of everybody and be fluent in that, plus their own traditions have to be more abstract and intellectual. these things make them more civilized.
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>>217348408
NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>217348481
they have highly flammable and mobile vehicles, why don't they just bomb the other clans?
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>>217347909
Retarded concept
Why didn't the Sully's just use the ikrans to fly to the camp?
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>>217348291
Soul derives in large part from someone's autistic enthusiasm to go the extra mile.

>>217348354
My guess is that the forest tribe's scat is generally better than the water tribe's. Forest tribe is omnivore but would be having a lot more nuts and tubers, while the water tribe I am sure will eat kelp and all but a majority is liable to be fish. Which I can't imagine makes for good fibre.

>>217347909
The cynic in me feels like they're clearly violating the spirit of Eywa's no wheel prohibition in terms of inhibiting how far you can travel/how fast you can transport shit.

But to be frank their whole
>yeah buddy we're not taking sides between the SKYPEOPLE INVADING and the Na'vi.
Makes me figure they are the most liberal/envelope pushing of the na'vi.

I find em real fucking cool but world where humans never appear and they'd likely be the cause of some great sorrow in the future.
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if earth had an eywa, would you grow a kuru and connect to her?
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>>217348761
yes but only to rape
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>>217346188
>See some air jew dancing with your man
>Next day completely accidentally Mangkwan wipe air jews out

Kiri...
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>>217348823
Eywa heard her!
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>>217348761
No, but I'm pretty sure it's not something you can choose. It is part of a parasitic fungal infection. Eywa is just the collected consciousness of a sentient planet-wide fungus.
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>>217348761
What's her position on the roastie question?
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Have the laws of Eywa ever been mentioned in the movies?
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>>217349038
No, but Jimbo implies in interviews that will be in 4/5.
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>>217348823
>Tulkun interrupts kiss
>At the final battle, wait until the tulkun have been absolutely decimated before you summon the wildlife to help out
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>>217348823
Forced smile. Vindictive psycho glare. The fate of the Jews was sealed that very night. God rest those that try to woo her man.
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which space jesus do you like better, kiri or anakin?
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>>217349175
Anakin. The Avatar movies don't hold a candle to the real Star Wars (aka not Disney) movies.
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>>217346188
Eywa is the problem with avatar lore. It condemns the na'vi to stay as boring hunter-gathers forever, it makes them look like death cultists, and it's a deus ex machina to save the spear-chuckers from getting flattened in the climax. That the mangkwan are... le bad just for opposing luddite enslavement is embarrassing. It'd be a much more complex story without the nature god shit.
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>>217347149
Not sure if joking or retarded but it was quite clearly explained several times that her animosity to humans was hugely exasabated by her grief of losing her child (murdered by humans btw).

It's literally one of the primary sub-plots of the film and is almost impossible to not understand unless your brain is defected
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>>217349203
this midwit thinks he knows better than Uncle Ted
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>Quaritch in his Mangkwan warpaint on the left
>seemingly Quaritch with three other bundled up Na'vi riflemen with a hellhound bot on the right
Unless they somehow make it to the Pandoran arctic before the timeskip it's looking like Quaritch, Varang and the RDA are still cozy after eight years.
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>>217349307
>Quaritch, Varang ... are still cozy after eight years.

yesssssssss
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>>217348823
>>217349069
Imagine if Jake or Neytiri had killed Spider.
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>>217349307
what are the chances Quartich takes over the RDA portion of Pandora, or convinces many members of it to switch over the Mangkwan along with their assets?
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>>217349307
he's carrying someone top left
maybe varang, looks blue
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>>217349203
Oh no, Eywa stop, don't make me stay in perfect paradise riding flying dragons and fucking hot chicks forever haha. How horrible ahhhh. Please someone save me and force me into miserable wagie slavery!
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>>217349307
With the timeskip between the first movie and 2 and 3, and now another long timeskip between 3 and 4, why does the RDA even still care or bother with this planet? It'll have been like 20 years of them trying and failing to chase down Jake Sully and that feels really silly and pointless. Especially since they were already fighting against the Na'vi for decades before he even arrived.
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>>217349506
top right too actually
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7IkXBT9mPo

I took her off her guard, with Sniper Lyle
I got sucked into her hut for a while
She's got redblack facepaint, and some hooks on the ceiling
A feather headdress and a wicked feeeeling...

She's a Nitemare Hippy Girl
with her skinny fingers fumbling my Comms
She's a whimsical, tragical beauty
I supply her with guns and... boombs

It's a cocaine blowout in my face
I'm so spaced out and there ain't no space
She's got henna tattoo of an eye on her hand
With her assistance, we're takin' the land

She's a Nitemare Hippy Girl (oooooh)
with her skinny fingers fumbling my Comms (oooooh)
She's a whimsical, tragical beauty (oooooh)
I supply her with guns and... bombs

She's a magical, succubus tease
Flying leathery wings on the breeze
Yeah, she's busting out onto the scene
With Kamikaze minions mean
She's hazardous to your health
She's a science of herself
She's spazzing out on a cosmic level
And she's dealing with the devil
She'll cuddle with me if I ask her
Explosions the size of Nebraska
She's hypnotic with twirling knives
Burning hot she ends more lives
She's a frolicking depression
She's a self-inflicted obsession
She's got a hundred lonely tribesmen
She'll eat your heart, put your head on a pike, then
She's a goddess burning her time
for all that it's WORTH
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>>217349583
Because Earth is dying anon, it would make sense to leave the planet alone if only greedy companies were after it's minerals but Pandora is literally the only chance humanity has of survival, they're never going to leave it alone
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>Varang will never cast Petrificus Totalus on me and do whatever with my body.
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>>217349745
And yet, I don't know if that's really true. Seems like corporate propaganda. The only things we ever see them actually concerned about are digging up unobtanium and killing whales for their magic juices.
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>>217349665
ha lol
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>>217346315
I don't want it...
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>>217347003
This. Doomfagging going hard ITT.
Reminder this made a billion faster than Avatar 1 did.
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why can't they implant Quaritch's soul back into a human clone body?



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