Why were jesse and mike framed as redeemable good guys in breaking bad/better call saul? They were scumbags who did everything for greed/ego, killed people and put their families in danger. Mike loving his grand daughter was to show he was a le wholesome good guy but he put her in danger in better call saul and the cartel does horrible disgusting things with children. He even pushed against hector which wouldve gotten his family killed or worse. Jessie got 2 of his loved ones killed and a child poisoned because he was part of the gang and he killed someone yet he gets a good ending in El Camino cause he was a drug slave and cried like a bitch? Fuck offSopranos knew the mob were pieces of shit no matter who it was and still made you like them without ever praising anyone in the group as some hero. Vince made jesse and mike le wholesome reddit chungus heart of gold goodboys without ever calling them out on what horrible people they are
>>217355118People are complex
>>217355222my problem that it isnt complex and also biased. Jesse and mike were not as bad as walter who was the ultimate evil and had a soft heart for children so therefore they are presented as the good guys with mike throughout BCS, BB and his cool honorable death that just made walt more evil while jesse got away and got a happy ending
>>217355118It was a different time man you wouldn’t get it.
>>217355265Yeah walt was more of a sociopath/narc, i agree.
>>217355118Well at least Jesse showed remorse at the end and he genuinely felt bad about all of the harm he caused. He was mostly just a criminal because he was a retard, not because he lacked morals.
The part that I always thought was funny was when Jesse is having flashbacks in El Camino. He sits there reminiscing about his good times with Jane. Andrea though? He doesn't bother to remember Andrea at all.
>>217356949Jesse still killed Gale who was just some loser chemist that had no maliciousness in him.
>>217356949>He was mostly just a criminal because he was a retardProbably trying to control his emotional problems with drugs instead of pharma.
>>217356949he was a big sopping pussy in fact with his morals, it felt like half the show was him crying or making some upset face about what he was doingat least walt and mike just did what needed to be done and didn't moralize about it
>>217356985She was a drug addict single mother and her son was a total dork chublord
>>217357219Jane was a drug addict too tho
>>217357253Yes but cuter and no baggage outside of being a raging drug addict but doing heroin with your gf is fun, can't do that with a kid around
