>spin-off more popular than the main storyAny other examples?
>>217381117Frasier lasted as long as Cheers in a time when it was much easier for a show to be cancelled.
>>217381117The Andy Griffith ShowHappy DaysFamily MattersThe SimpsonsLaw & Order: Special Victims UnitNCISThe hillsThe Twilight ZoneThe FlashDiagnosis: Murder
>>217381117What was Xena a spin off of?
>>217381312Hercules legendary journies
noone really saw it as a spin-off though one was for girls the other was for boys
>>217381117What killed low budget kinos? People loved Xena because the characters were cool and hot (ladies and gents alike). Nobody gave a shit that the effects were utter shit (but packed with soul) and the writing was forgettable. It was just a plain fun show.
>>217381345This. Also because Hercules is a famous Greek myth and Xena is something the show made up. They don't feel particularly related.
>>217381362The bar is too high for fantasy and science fiction nowadays. Shows like this and Stargate SG-1 were made mostly before CGI became widespread and affordable so they could get away with blatantly filming in some gravel pit outside Vancouver, but nowadays something like this would have to compete against Disney+ Star Wars shows, Stranger Things, or Game of Thrones and it would just get laughed at and ignored due to being so cheaply made.
>>217381362i don't think it was particularly low budget. something like 1-2 million per episode
>>217381362low budget yet better looking than the cgslop we get nowadays, rip
>>217381498Was 1 or 2 million considered a high or standard budget for 90s television?
>>217381362Decline of syndication in the USA, which partly you can link to streaming and the fragmentation of the market. Both Hercules and Xena were specifically designed for syndication rather than a specific network.
>>217381466Funny enough, Xena was shot in New Zealand. According to Wikipedia, "some filming locations are confidential"??
>>217381581I remember that each season consisted of just over twenty episodes, which is crazy for today's television.Some scripts were what you might call jumping into the shark with crazy (but fun) premises like Groundhog Day or Past Lives.But yes, I suppose the series were kept going with as many episodes as possible to cater to the syndicate.
>it's a "Callisto screams" episode
>>217381573was probably closer to 1 million. i don't know if there are official numbers. some news article from 2000 said roughtly 1 million. plus inflation i guess.i'm not sure. in some random top 10 most costliest 90s tv show. most are 1.5-2 million.but top 3 jumps to 10+ million with friends, ER and 7th heaven.but i don't know how accurate these are
>>217381635Lucy is from New Zealand.The fact that it was filmed in that country, just like Hercules, makes the locations feel somewhat monotonous at times, but very beautiful.
Lucy Lawles looks damn sexy in the images from this science fiction show. Can someone tell me if the show is worth watching and if Lucy's character on the show is Kino and super sexy?
>>217381466Anon, despite what hollywood tells you, cg is cheaper then ever. And good writing acting casting and talent can make even low budget stuff shineDisney+ starwars shows are shitStranger Things is litterally xfiles tier and could be cheaper then chips to produceGame of thrones went to absolute shit so hard people were almost completely turned off of the entire IP. The problem isn't it's expense. The problem is that the don't want to produce it. Look at...what's that show with ackles in it?. It's made on the cheap and has a dedicated hardcore audience and it's watchable. There's a place for it. The problem is, "they" want money pits they can use to launder money.
>>217381675Traditionally somewhere between 80 to 100 episodes was seen as being required for syndication. There are actual examples of shows that specifically got renewed for more episodes by networks for that very reason. It would be determined that even if the network or production company was losing money on them (whether due to cost of the show or lack of viewership), they would ultimately recoup the cost through selling the shows either internationally or through domestic repeats/syndication. Non-American related, but if you look at a lot of British television then historically in the 1960s and 1970s they did produce things in 24-30 episode batches per season, and two the two driving factors was 1) they would aim to sell it abroad, and 2) selling it abroad covered the actual costs of making that many episodes. They eventually shifted away from that by dropping it down to 13 then 10 then most things just everything being done in 6 episodes and more often than not now miniseries, but the point is it illustrates the trend that has happened in America. Actually film 24-26 episodes is expensive and requires enough people either watch it on first broadcast, watch it on repeat, or you can sell it internationally. Where the system is so fucked, aside from the shit writing, is the companies are just retarded as they are wasting hundreds of millions on streaming shows that not enough people are watching (or even paying for if they are) and subscription fees do not bring in the same revenue TV advertisement once did. The whole current model is not sustainable, and is driven by a combination of companies either having money from other sources to subsidies it (such as Amazon, Apple) or the perception they will eventually make money hence people keep investing.
>>217381941I believe the only profitable streaming service is Netflix.
>>217382000Netflix has never been profitable.
>>217381117Episode one has her former lover, a half negro show upI think that was why, it was pandered to the woke crowd
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdTnm6QNzeE&pp=ygUSWGVuYSBmaXNydCBlcGlzb2Rl
>>217381117>inject boobs into main story>boobs become the main storypretty much any time boobs
>>217382166Having a black character doesn't make anything woke. Draco was based. You sound like a retarded zoomer.
>>217382502>my former lover, a half negro>basedwhat's it like being racist against White people?
R.I.P Kevin Smith
>>217382592He had to be one of the most handsome men alive. Him and Patrick Swayze.
>>217381345It wasn't a gendered thing. Hercules was lame and Xena was edgy and had hot girls. I knew people who watched both or only Xena, but nobody watched only Hercules.
>>217381117They started airing reruns locally on comet, but I had to stop watching once they started having magical flying dream battlesWhat a weird way to go
>>217382615liked his music, too
>>217382714Didn't know he was a musician. Cool.
>>217381345I watched both. Gabrielle was my sexual awakening.
>>217382656>nobody watched only Hercules.True. I liked both but i suppose i liked both with a slight preference for Xena
>>217381362Shows like this were partly spoofing all the low budget Conan and Star Wars ripoffs that had proliferated in the 80s. As the 80s receded into the distance the tongue-in-cheek goofing on schlocky 80s media resonated less and less with audiences.
>>217382735Yeah, dabbled in some lo-fi indie rock. And there's a yt video of him singing Rebel Yell by Billy Idol.
>>217382166That wasn't woke at all. Just say you hate anyone not white and be done with it. You're not fooling anyone anymore with cries of woke.
>>217382592Wrong kid died god damn it
