This show has some of the most egregious writing and flagrant disregard for its source material I’ve ever seen. I’ve read fanfics and shitty doujins with better writing, the fuck were they thinking?
>>217390503>tee hee brown kiss "white" lady we make money gurrrr capitalism bad duhhhhhh
It's good though.People who only casually played or didn't play fallout like it, which is the goal.
>>217390533I take it that in addition to the inevitable fact he doesn't sound like Rene, he behaves nothing like Robert House?
>>217390566Honestly he's the best part about the season. He was retarded the first time he pops up but since then and the last episode he's done a good job especially given the show he's on. The only part that doesn't make sense with House is HOW THE FUCK WOULDN'T HE KNOW ABOUT THE ENCLAVE BY NOW?
>>217390538It’s an okay show but it’s not a good Fallout show, they just up and retconned a bunch of shit and flanderized or destroyed interesting factions because….? Not to mention the cringy fucking writing. Fallout can be silly and be serious (more the latter than the former) but if you just hamfist them together or make everything silly like a shitty Marvel movie then there’s no real stakes, no reason I should give a shit about your characters
>>217390538i hate this reality so fucking much we could've gotten something so cool with avolve writing instead of the writer yesman cuck emile
>>217390620Avelone is a heckin sexual predator and all the stuff he wrote before that I gushed about I now hate.
>>217390645twitter faggots are the biggest hypocrites because they do this while also being creepy pedophiles
I watch for her
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>>217390503>flagrant disregard for its source material Genuinely retarded complaint when the source material has dozens of endings spread across multiple games.The setting is canon. The show is canon. Your playthrough when you teamed with the Legion to rape women and put niggers on crosses was not canon.
>>217390689That’s a strawman. I don’t give a shit about the dinosaur, what I care about is shit like House suddenly being cool with ending the world and knowing about it despite it contradicting how he acted in the games or the NCR getting wiped out for no fucking reason or the Legion having a “big” civil war spanning multiple states despite one camp being less than 50 meters from the other camp and is heavily flanderized. Don’t put words in my mouth retard it doesn’t work because the writers don’t gove a shit about the source material
>>217390603>enclave are the arch villains>make a casual appearance early in season 1 like it's nothing, no mystique at allKek, I feel like they must have rewritten shit after the backlash to the sheer retardation that Vault-Tec caused the war in the name of capitalism
>>217390785can u actually do that in the game???
>>217390785Refer to this post>>217390794I don’t care about the ending of the NV or whatever, that was kept intentionally vague normally anyways, it’s that they got core story and lore beats completely fucking wrong. Don’t piss in cup and call it wine
>>217390661>this ugly brown bitch>not the incest redheadfuck out of here ranjesh
>>217390503dont care about your rambling, show is fun
>>217390805No unfortunately. You can sell your companion into slavery though (super based)
>>217390800They rewrote shit from episode 1 onward. The dad was never going to be evil. It makes no sense. The raiders weren't NCR. That all changed so they could make Moldaver this commie hero.They also directly have basically shit on that meeting from season one in season two with House laying it out that it is all bs and someone else is stirring the pot above it all.
>>217390857Which companion did you do that to?
>>217390800If the CGI budget allowed for it, I would have put money on the Enclave eventually being led by what is essentially the same shit as Frank Horrigan (super mutant supersoldier - maybe it would have been Hank himself), so the show could basically have their own heckin' Thanos as the arch villain and it would end being just like heckin' Engame
>>217390862>They rewrote shit from episode 1 onward. The dad was never going to be evil. It makes no sense. The raiders weren't NCR. That all changed so they could make Moldaver this commie hero.Nah I think that's more for them going all in on some big misdirect that doesn't make sense when you analyse it.>le hank is ebil but must first appear le good so we make moldaver look le ebil when she is in fact le goodThat simple and smoothbrained, anon
>>217390828Poast
>>217390898You can only do it to the annoying queer
>>217390898Arcade. He’s the gay Enclave guy. Make sure to do it before you get his power armour though. After Caesar tells you about his brain tumour you can sell him into slavery to treat it
>>217390566You ever say no to House in the game?
>>217390932The first scene with the cunt is her slaughtering a bunch of innocent vault dwellers to steal him. She wasn't NCR, she was a fucking raider gang leader. That was complete and utter bullshit they changed after the fact once they realized they fucked up having a woman lead the gang.
>decade of chuds calling new vegas a troon game full of woke slop>suddenly they all love it and treat it like some kind of precious and beloved game because it's cool to hate new thing
>>217390911They’d never do it because it implies making the Enclave look competent, because we all know totalitarian groups can only exist to be incompetent caricatures right?
>>217390503>NOOOO NOT LE HECKIN SOURCE MATERIALShut the fuck up, you stupid tranny
>>217390933https://youtu.be/7P4AcprFpgU?t=39
>>217390973End justifies the means shit. I don't anon, I almost feel like you're giving them too much credit for a rewrite explaining stupidity rather than being too dumb to realise what they were doing in the initial episode because they wanted a misdirection tweest
>>217390977I always loved new vegas. You’re shadowboxing the voices in your head
>>217390785translation>"Im a fucking retard from reddit defending netflix slop written by nepo babies who failed their creative writing course highschool"
>>217390689George Flukas created the IP and can change it as its his vision and fictional universe, Tranazon payed to make fanfiction to sell for views(and collect your data to sell, which is where they make the real money)
>>217391002I don't buy that they are THAT bad at writing. >End justifies the meansis legit what the whole show has been crying about not being the case kek
>>217390689in the original film Han shot first though. George changed it because he felt guilty about han solo killing greedo for only the threat of murdering him, he felt that it was wrong to kill greedo first and only justified if greedo tried to kill him and missed.
>cooking>see a video about comparing the factions in NV and pros and cons>simply skip to the end to see his choice>NCR>move onto a different videoKek, always amuses me, that limpdicked choice. Roll the dice on House for fuck's sake. The world is fucked, so I'd give the quasi-immortal techno autocrat (his preferred term, you see) a shot of making something grand in his little corner of the world
>>217391030That’s gay. I think it’s better if Han shoots first because it does a better job at establishing that he’s not a hero, it creates actual character complexity
>>217390533What is it with big corpos and capitalism bad messaging.
>>217391028Well the show is buy Jonathan Nolan - didn't he run Westworld into the ground via retarded writing?
>>217390661My self insert will lose his virginity to her
>>217390977NV was never good and this show only proves it.
The world of Fallout is inspired by Poland, so why are there so many black people in it??
>>217391061It’s grifting off of retarded left wingers who eat that shit up. If you really were anti-corporations and capitalism you wouldn’t be giving the multi-million dollar corporation your money and you wouldn’t be consuming slop but modern communists only like to larp as being anti-consumerists and anti-materialists
>>217391000Yeah, few good parts of the shitty Vault sections and it's like 2 mins and not even the scene itself
>>217391083I recall him as being the only consistently compelling character in s1 (The Ghoul thing got a bit old)
>>217391061Bad... for YOU, not for them, silly. Just consume the slop please. We're fighting the good fight against the baddies don't you see?>>217391075I couldn't make it to season 2 of that fuckin show. Shame, it was a good concept. There is meat there.>>217391083Norm should be the main character of the show. He really is a Fallout MC.>>217391115Not only that but he's growing. He realized he is capable of leading and growing and shit. He also seems to be passing speech checks and whatnot unlike his retard sister who is a complete fucking idiot.I was kind of hoping she WOULD get taken back to the vault last ep so Norm could link up with her and help her out a bit. I'm sure they are going to make him look like more of an idiot after he went cockblind to the brown girl.
>>217391083The chud jew is the best character and the showrunners will try and make you hate him mark my words
>>217391102It's Poland in 10 years time lol
>>217391155Poland if PiS stops winning elections
>>217390911Kek, you're right. A 100 percent Marvelized Fallout would totally do a Horrigan for its big bad arch villain.
>>217391152I think cause Norm feels the most 'real' as a character, as this frustrated introverted. Also helps that the actor face is able to do something to convey intelligence. It's not something you can describe as such, it's intangiable. But I can see intelligence and the gogs turning in his head the way I don't for his sister or the black guy
>>217391244In the first scenes he's hiding and lucy is helping him out, he feels like he's this coward. He never fits in etc. He really does feel like he's realizing he's tougher than he thought which is impressive on a show like this.The ghoul goes between unwatchable and interesting, house is a pretty solid casting, and norm is the standout character. Other than that it is pretty rough on the "character" side of things.
>>217391244yeah but maximus is a hot sex icon
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>>217391281I think the lack of appeal is an actor thing too. I don't especially like Purnell - didn't care for her in the one season of Yellowjackets I bothered to watch too. Conversely, Hank is pretty thin (in fact, outright stupid) as a character but I can watch and enjoy because it's /our guy/ Kyle MacLachlan
>>217390977Literally only troons have tried to claim NV as theirs. Just like how they tried to claim Samus as a trans icon because some nip manual referred to her as a he before it was revealed Samus is a chick.
>>217391379QRD on New Vegas and trannies? This shit is news to me.
>>217391332Hank I can't stand because I don't fucking buy it. I just do not buy he was supposed to be this mustache twirling villain. Doesn't shock me though that writers physically cannot have a father figure that is good in any way unless he somehow dies immediately to some galactic war/dragon/aliens/whatever to start the MC's quest. It is actually impressive once you start looking for it in media. Oh is that a good dad on screen? That motherfucker is DEAD soon.
>>217391403I don't even know. I've just seen a few memes on the internet where people say playing NV turned them trans. Probably autogyophiliac freaks installing too many sex mods. But also its probably a forced meme.
>>217391332Hank's become irredeemably evil in no time flat. He doesn't come across as a conflicted father doing bad for an ultimately good or beneficial purpose. He's a monster and the only clear option is a bullet in his brain. Which is lame because Fallout is about making choices when you see all avenues to approach a problem.This is indicative of the show in general, they make very safe, uncontroversial moral "dilemmas". You don't want to make Lucy a bad person, do you? Oh no, she killed someone! Wait, it's okay that person was an obese murderer who killed the store owner and stole his clothes. No biggie.
>>217391502I completely agree. He's retarded written. But as I said, it's MacLachlan, so I can watch and be amused. Does not occur for Lucy and Maximus (who are both shittily written). As for Goggins, I almost have fatigue with him. I believe I enjoyed him more in the flashbacks.
>>217391457I’ve heard of this meme but also most of my fascist and racist friends also like New Vegas. I think it’s one if those games that just gets a wide array of characters like 40k or a lot of anime slop
>>217391502I like how she had no qualms about the ghoul ending up on a spike like that despite it clearly would have been fatal to fucking anyone, him included. Going to really stupid to watch him "pull himself off" the pole.
I want everyone who worked on it and especially everyone who likes it to die.
>>217391574Racist (so based) white men simply enjoy thing and claim them organically. Trannies have to contort and do endless mental gymnastics and endlessly planning and conniving when they want to claim something that obviously wasn't geared towards them
>>217390503Never seen a bigger disconnect between what 4chan thinks of this show and what normies think about it. You ask people in real life, and they’re loving this show.
>>217391754Normies don't exactly have great standards. See their devotion to early-mid GoT. Plus Fallout, like GoT, gets extra points from normies because it's highly escapist as opposed to something set in "our" world in the present or not-too-distant past.
>>217391556Goggins being at the centerpiece of almost every major story event is bothersome. It's lazily written and they're gonna pull a fast one with his wife yet again in the final episode. >>217391601It seems she just knows he'll survive when nothing so far suggests he should. Is Coop some extra special variant of ghoul that's just extremely resilient and can just regenerate destroyed organs?
>>217391754It was literally made for normies that didn't play the games...are you retarded?
>>217390503>retard watches poorly made, bullshit streaming slop>gets angry because it sucksMaybe stop being a mark faggot and watch kino instead of preexisting IP slapped on to garbage then you fucking homo.
>>217391754Goymies consoom whatever slop they're fed, you fucking faggot.
>>217391783Probably the most based thing they could have Goggins do is execute his wife, putting a mad dog out of its misery. Then he thaws out and attends to his mutt daughter
So Lucy was able to resist the tranquilizer because she was on the anti-addiction medication or what?That whole sequence was kind of dumb.
>>217391083>>217391115>>217391153I'm not watching the show and dont intend to, but what makes him a good character? spoil it for me
>>217391783>Is Coop some extra special variant of ghoul that's just extremely resilient and can just regenerate destroyed organs?No which is what makes the whole thing weirder. He would have massive organ failure and die in the fallout universe before this show.The ghoul being such a critical person in fallout all the sudden is really funny when you consider he walked across the entire country to fuckin ohio 20 years after the bombs fell to hang out and hunt bounties for awhile (fallout 76, and yes its canon for that one weirdo that thinks otherwise still, yay bethesda!) on top of everything else. The guy magically was probably also at the vault from Fallout Tactics and said hi to Nate and Nora in boston while looking for his family.Makes you wonder how the fuck bad he is at looking for them that it has taken this long. Learn rank 2 hacking already, ghoul. You've only had 200 years.
>>217391904I thought 76 was Appalachia? So that makes it even more retarded because he walked even further than Ohio
im going to kill myself when they play jingle jangle jingle screen cap this
>>217391941He shows up in appalachia too but he's "housed" at highwaytown in ohio across the bridge from where you start off at in 76.>he also just randomly is in towns and stations in the map in Appalachia too but w/eIt just makes him look like a complete retard that he spent 2 decades going across the ENTIRE USA and didn't find fucking shit. Then... uh... did fucking nothing for another 180 years?
I wasn't optimistic after 4 and 76, but you just know the next mainline game is going to be ass.
>>217392025The vast majority likes 4
>>217391985>such an angry excessively rude edgelord at his ageYou'd expect him to a cunning mastermind like Clint Eastwood characters. That a man of his age and experience would eventually realise that when it comes to handling a girl like Lucy, you use the carrot rather than the stick. That to manipulate her you put on the gentlemanly facade after a certain point. The way Ghoul Goggins behaves, you'd expect him to be an angry as fuck but still middle aged man on a warpath 5 years after the bombs dropped
>>217392076Ironically be such an abrasive asshole rather than The Ghoul With No Name makes him less badass. Plus Goggins leaning into Clint (as you said) would be more novel because Goggins has played abrasive assholes all throughout his career.
>>217392045I know, but I didn't care for it, but I understand it's success from a purely gameplay perspective why someone would. I think it leans a bit too into being too jetsony with the aesthetics - a lot of Fallout's look derived from the 60-80's with stuff like Mad Max. I think a lot of FO's themes were lost over the years, and will continued to be lost.
>>217392076I get they didn't want to have him record a bunch of dialogue but you'd think after you did some bounty hunts for him or something he'd open up bit but he legit has maybe 3-4 lines longer than "Hmph" which is unreal given he didn't even need the makeup for that shit. If anything by year 20 looking for my family I'd probably be some stoic weirdo answering in riddles. It is really weird how the whole setup is you just doing bounties for the guy in 76 and... you're paying him to do them. Because uh... videogames. Legit all it would've taken was "I've got this pile of bounties on these guys and their leaders and I'm hoping it will lead me to something I'm looking for WINK WINK"
>>2173920254 is a solid modding base for post apocalyptic settlement building and stuff. 76 has turned into a pretty fun multiplayer game. Neither are much of fallout games but bethesda is incapable of making those.
>>217392171I completely believe the narrative that Todd and Emil seethe over NV for being beloved most by fans, new and old, despite being a buggy mess on release and made in 18 months. Seething so hard over that and have a vendetta exposes them as selfish petty manchildren, rather than being humbled and seeking learn as stewards of a beloved franchise. So, naturally, Bethesda hasn't got a chance in hell off making Fallout kino with such "men" in charge
Is there a vault where they made all the vaulties trans? That would be kino.
>>217392212NV isn't very much of a fallout game either really. So don't think that was some sort of pass on obsidian's "effort" there. I almost posted as such but figured it would go without saying. Guess not.NV has a lot of good, and a lot of fucking bad. It also is on that retarded engine and didn't address vats properly at all but w/e that was long ago at this point.I don't think Todd gives a single fuck about any of this and just counts his money. I think the one that DID bug him was people not loving Starfield and latching on to it. I DO think it bugs him that the older games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, even the fucking oblivion remaster are way more beloved than his attempt at something new.Now faggot ass emil? That bitch seethes as a default position.
>>217392270>le randomly generated worlds with fuck all to do in terms of exploring wasn't warmly receivedHow the fuck did they not see the writing on the wall with regards to that early in development?
>>217391844She's just as complicit as Hank is. She could pull the "I was only following orders" shit but she enabled crimes against humanity. Killing her is the smart option which why it's unlikely.>>217391904They probably thought Goggins' star power and charm would be enough to excuse how he hopped around the continent for 2 centuries and did fuck all till some vaultie from nowhereville set him straight. Like the Vault Boy thing, they are just shoving him in places he doesn't belong. I think a ghoul with military training and Pre War knowledge would be a good concept to explore. He could be some parts Randall Clark (not a ghoul but a man driven by the loss of his family) and Dean Domino, whose focus on revenge keeps him sharp no matter the years. Oh but oops forgot about the magic drugs he needs to keep sane.This show is fucking stupid.
>>217390533Personally, for me? I clapped when he put on the neural interface for no other reason than to sperg out and yell at Cooper. Pure kinography. Wish we got more little details for the fans like this one.
>>217392171I agree. I do sometimes install 4 to mod it and do a playthrough, but in general I find the world and story pretty uninteresting. Its just little thing that compound, for example I cannot get over the fact that you can't build walls and roofs without gaping holes in them. Not to mention building just felt more like a chore. You can't just build your cool house/compound, no name settlers will find it, they will sleep in your bed, and you will get radial quests to give them food/defend them from attacks. Also it bugs the shit out of me that in 4 and I assume 76 nobody actually shoulders a rifle. There's also the other point that people make about the BoS being the mascot of the series, that's okay by me but they're so morally inconsistent with themselves. The difference between Maxon's and Lyon's BoS is huge, I get that they merged with the outcasts, but they still seem out of character. What really gets me are the super mutants - if they're going to be on the east coast, fine, but can they please write some compelling mutant characters? I know in 3 and 4 there are some smart supers, but they're still voiced with that retarded tone/inflection that all the other unintelligent muties share. I really liked Marcus and the Lieutenant. I'm just pointlessly ranting.
>>217392326They were pretty faithful recreating that, especially considering it's a low poly shit model