>WHAT THE FUCK...THE SCREEN WENT BLACK FOR 5 SECONDS?>AIIIIEEEEEEEE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND SHIT ENDING SHIT ENDING IT COULDNT POSSIBLY REPRESENT A CHARACTERS DEATH BECAUSE I DONT WANT MY BOOMER POWER FANTASY TO DIE>I NEED DAVID CHASE TO SPOONFEED ME AAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEE HELP ME CNN
>>217394893>he thinks tony diedlmao
>>217394893It was an open ending. Are you ok?
>>217394908wrong, the show basically bashes you in the head that he fucking died. There is no evidence he lived yet a ton that he died>>217394984only to retards. It was tony getting wacked and everyone who says he lives have no proof and just schizo babbles about it
>>217395010It was an open ending cope harder
>>217394893The show runners fagged out with the ending. All of that bad ass hard core realistic mob shit and the dumbass mob boss wasn't shown being wacked for his retardation? Hell it was probably a "fuck you" to hbo so they can leave it open ended and have a sequel or movie of some kind.
>>217395245>>217395279>the 5 seconds of darkness representing what its like to be instantly dead>bobby bocala saying "You probably don’t even hear it when it happens">this bobby line repeated in the second last episode to remind the audience>guy in members only jacket listed in the credits over the other people listed as just civilians>guy in members only jacket was constantly shown>members only jacket guy goes to the bathroom to get a gun just like the godfather scene that tony says is his favourite scene>the bathroom is a place where he can easily shoot tonythere is no evidence that he lived but plenty that he died. You are genuinely stupid to think its open ended and/or he lived when the black screen represents his death
>>217395378but why would there be a gun at holstens already?unless the girl AJ hooked up with was a plant
>>217395279>it was probably a "fuck you" to hbo so they can leave it open ended and have a sequel or movie of some kind.They paid Gandolfini like $5 million not to replace Steve Carrell in The Office even though it would have been great television. That's how desperate they were for him to typecast himself as this one character. They were 100% going to revive the show.
>>217395397there could be a number of reasons why including the fact that the person went to the bathroom to put a silencer on, got intel from someone tony told that he thought he could trust, through the FBI fucking him over, or just going to the bathroom spot to snipe him and then jump out a potential window thats in there. Him going to the bathroom is an obvious godfather reference though so it makes no sense why chase put that in just for tony to live
>>217394893Dumb esl poster
>>217395467There are lots of men who dress like that in new jersey, almost all of them go to bathrooms and almost none of them are the kind if hitmen willing to kill a mob boss in front of his family at a crowded restaurant.
>>217394893I remember during the original run of the show there was a theory that Adrianna was still alive because we never saw her getting killed. David Chase was pissed about how he needed to spoonfeed American audiences.
>>217395378So why not show it. The show is not only from Tony's perspective. Everyone has their own perspective in this show even barely used co-stars and side characters. It was them leaving the show open ended so he could be brought back.>>217395436Goddamn, I would have actually watched the show if that happened.
>>217395378>"You probably don’t even hear it when it happens"You people latch onto this line so hard, despite the fact that the show repeatedly has entire episodes dedicated to showing that there is an afterlife and that it doesn't just go black when you die, you go to a different place. If Tony died he wouldn't just see black, he would be in hell, which is canonically where all the main characters are going when they die.
>>217394893https://www.youtube.com/shorts/o4oI2RJQbucLiterally the meme
>>217395010There's no evidence that he died either, it's just very clearly the writer's intention.
>>217395675>okay here's the evidence that he died>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT>okay show me proof he lived>*autistic boomer screeching*
>>217395675Yeah, it's meant to be ambiguous, this easily could have happened as well and it's equally valid as an interpretation
did he died?
>>217395010Filtered
>>217395378>wall of cope
>>217395658tony went to heaven because he's the main character
>>217394893Boomers are kind of right. Getting high on your artsy fartsy shit like vague endings/open to interpretation is women shit and fucking pseud shit.
How did they not think it would have an artsy fartsy ending? Sure it's mostly a mobster show but the weird surreal stuff was always there. Especially in the Tony in a coma episodes. And like all the ghosts and shit haunting Tony.
>>217395378Filtered
I refuse to watch Saints of Newark or whatever the fuck it's called. Seems soulless.
He actually got out of the monster lifestyle and banged Elaine
>>217395732>okay here's the evidence that he diedWhere? The stuff in >>217395378 is not evidence, it's all interpretation. Which is exactly what they wanted the audience to do, it's an artsy ass ending meant to provoke discussion. The intent of killing Tony is very clear but they didn't show it because they wanted people to debate it for years as we are now.
>>217394893Everything points to him dying. Beyond the stuff that people have already mentioned, Meadow was the guardian angel that saved his life twice before by circumstance. Except this time, she is late because she is a shit driver. She would have been in the way of the shot from the bathroom if she got there on time, and the hit may have been aborted. She was too late though, and he got shot.
Chase said it's not ambiguous, it's all there in the episode. Episode is laden with death imagery. First scene is Tony sleeping and it looks like he's dead in a coffin.
>>217396822One of the shittiest movies in history
>>217395010>>217395378You're just parroting the same masterofsopranos blog post from almost 20 years ago thinking you ever had an original thought. Audiences came up with this ending theory and Chase just took credit for it. There's no "evidence" of anything, just a ton of weird symbolism that often conflicts. The theory that won online was the one Chase decided was true.
>>217397639This. Authors do this all the time now and it's so sickening. Shit they never intended and never put a single thought towards they take credit for because a bunch of sycophants came up with a better meaning for their ending than they ever could.
>>217397137>Chase said it's not ambiguous, it's all there in the episode.He only said this over a decade after the audience theory was already established and accepted. He just took credit here. Think about it, the show is full of retcons and the TMSON movie is like a fever dream. This is not a guy who remembers details, he's too dumb to make that ending
>>217396673Just because he's a main character doesn't mean he goes to heaven. Tony was a total piece of shit and is going to hell with the rest of them. He never had the makings of a varsity angel.
>>217395378why would he need to stash a gun there retard
