>Get taxed>Blockades a random planetWhy are people insistant that this plot makes sense?
>>217401070It wasn't random.
>>217401070padme levying a tax on my underage benis
>My lord, is she...legal?>I will MAKE her legal.
>>217401108Ha
>>217401070dont disturb the prequel tranny, hes on edge as it is.
>>217401070Taxation is theft
>>217401483So why not just secede?Why bother blockading some inconsequential planet?
>>217401070wasn't naboo voting against the TF's interests or something?
>>217401579Nope. The film never explains Naboo's significance to the TF.
>>217401551It's extremely obviously not inconsequential. The Republic immediately sent out Jedi to resolve it. It's an allegory for middle eastern countries blockading canals and trader routes as well as bullying small rich oil producing nations like Kuwait
the real plot was keeping gungan niggas on their planet
>>2174016101. Naboo is incosequential as it has literally no pull in the senate as proven by it's unwillingness to send support to the planet2. The Jedi were covertly sent by the Chancellor meaning the Senate were completely unaware of this and didn't sanction it3. Blockading a Trade Route is way fucking different than blockading a singular location.
>>217401551It wasn't inconsequential. Naboo was a client world of great value.>>217401579The old King had negotiated a deal with the TF that Padme wanted to renegotiate when she took the crown; the TF didn't want to change the contract terms, so Padme threatened to break the contract and cut the TF off entirely. This would have cost the TF an immense fortune, so Naboo was blockaded and invaded to force Padme to sign a contract renewal that would have kept Naboo under the TF's thumb in perpetuity.
>>217401625This. They had portable shields ffs. If the frogs ever got loose in the galaxy with ships and modern blasters it'd be the Pidgin Empire within a decade.
>>217401679I want you to point to any point in the film any of this is explained.
>>217401738Star Wars lore has never been dictated by film alone. One must pore over tomes to unlock such information.
>>217401738>>217401679It was explicitly explained as a scheme of Darth Sidious who was the boss of the trade federation. He told them to blockade Naboo and invade them.
>>217401678>1. Naboo is incosequential as it has literally no pull in the senate as proven by it's unwillingness to send support to the planetThis always confused me, Naboo is a literal sector capital world. It should have mattered greatly to the Senate as a whole, even after all the bribes.
>>217401803Never needed external literature just to understand the plots of the OT>>217401810It's never explained why Sidious has any sway over the TF. The implication is that the TF are unbelievably stupid and assume Sidious's plan will somehow get their taxes removed despite having no reason to believe this.
>>217401854What if Amidala just folded and signed the treaty? There'd have been no crisis, no emergency vote of no confidence. Everything would have returned to normal, except the TF would enjoy some kind of slightly better terms with Naboo.What if Darth Maul defeated the jedi on Tattooine? What would he have done to Amidala? Made he go back to Naboo and sign the treaty? See above.
>>217401854>Never needed external literature just to understand the plots of the OTThe OT wasn't a complex story, but reams of info were published later to define specifics of that galaxy. The PT is no exception to that, if anything it's beholden to it because its presentation on film lacks complexity, as you succinctly point out.
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>>217401972This is essentially an admission that the PT has a flawed narrative
>>217401738>I want you to point to any point in the film any of this is explained.How about you point out how the Republic became the Empire in A New Hope?
>>217402054yes. most prequel fans admit they are imperfect movies
>>217401108Kiera Knightly? Or Natalie Portman?
>>217401988It's video game footage not from movies.
>>217402054So flawed an author had to write a book to explain it logically, and mostly succeeded but had to invent a retarded form of government to make it stick. Naboo really should have been a Death Star weapon test target.
>massive trade federation that just goes around demanding you arbitrarily pay them taxes on any transactions made within your own economy, then spends the money on mass producing combat droids so they can outright invade and occupy any planet that refuses to comply>the various government powers throughout the galaxy are completely fine with what are essentially heavily armed space pirates masquerading as a legitimate business running extortion rings and killing anyone who doesn't pay up>so fine with it that the only action taken by the Galactic Senate when they invade Naboo, a major ally with political representatives in the senate itself, is to hire...two religious monks to go and negotiate some sort of treaty
>A communications disruption can mean only one thing: invasion. Well, I guess it could also mean they want to avoid getting a message out so we can't contact anyone and are forced to sign the treaty. In fact, being that is why they have us blockaded I think they could just be following through on the logical process of doing that. No need to do a costly ground invasion. Wait, why disrupt our communications at all if the senate already knows and sent Jedi? You know what, forget I mentioned it. I think those battleships and massive army up there aren't here to invade us.
>>217402183You forgot:>the extortionists have their own seat in the Senate along with all their client worlds' seats and they vote as a bloc legally
>>217402108Irrelevant to the plot you disingenuous faggot. That was ROTS job to explain and it fucked up too.
>>217401070Why did the Queen's ship fly directly towards the blockade instead of leaving from here
I think it's pretty safe to say that the prequels weren't terribly well thought out and you can chalk that up, along with the terrible acting, terrible directing, terrible casting and terrible cinematography, to the fact that Lucas had essentially complete control over them unlike the original films and anyone who wasn't gargling his balls was fired.
>>217402286>Irrelevant to the plot you disingenuous faggot. Already got you mad, LOL>That was ROTS job to explain and it fucked up too.Oh, so you needed another movie that came out decades later to explain the politics of a "perfect" one? Funny.
>>217402313Why did the TF try to blow up the Queen's ship if they need her alive to sign the treaty?
>>217402313Why didn't the Naboo lightspeed ram the Fed blockade with R2-piloted ships?
>>217401988Kek
>>217402108When Vader walks in and says the senate has been dissolved
>>217401070>>217401108>>217401551>>217401803>>217401988>>217402313>>217402257>>217402331Uh....ROGER ROGER
>>217402183The jedi are sent to de-escalate the situation because valorum "the cuck" thought war could still be avoided. In fact it's a good representation of how inept and pozzedthe galactic republic was in its final years
>>217402353Okay. HOW did that happen? You HAVE to spoonfeed it to me like that other anon is demanding of TPM.
>>217402108drooling retard
>>217401070After decades of getting carried away thinking he was the big brain that made Star Wars good, the prequels came along, and George Lucas decided he’d become a writer. …and a director.Neither of which jobs he was ever good at.
>>217402370james earl jones could say water was dry and air was liquid and it would be convincing.
>>217402364I think it's hilarious to me that a faction with representatives in the Senate is just openly threatening, attacking and extorting other members and this is tolerated at all. You'd think that would be immediately considered an act of war, with them facing expulsion from the Senate and treated as hostiles.
Jar Jar is the key to all of this. Because he's a funnier character than we've ever had. If we- if we can get him to work...the rest of it will kind of fall into place.
>>217402392Yes, you have to be to enjoy the Ewok scenes in ROTJ, don't you?>>217402407... No answer?
>>217402370Because Vader said so, which means anyone who says otherwise is getting some combination of force choked and cut in half with his lightsaber.
>>217402416Thanks for proving prequel faggotry exists in a realm where all spoken lines, all actors, and all performances are equal. Essentially face-blindness when it comes to film.
>>217402427Okay. That's just as valid as the dialogue in The Phantom Menace, then. >UM, NO! TH-TH-THAT'S DIFFERENT CUZ-It's not.
>>217402452>That's just as valid as the dialogue in The Phantom Menace, then. Source: my ass.
>>217402452Except we can point to dialogue in the OT that quickly establishes necessary facts. There is no such dialogue in the prequels.
>>217402409>immediately considered an act of war, with them facing expulsion from the Senate and treated as hostilesAnd why would that matter in the slightest? The Republic fucking has no military power whatsoever. The Trade Federation does. The TF could have just walked into Coruscant and taken over the Senate.
>>217402495> The TF could have just walked into Coruscant and taken over the Senate.So why didn’t that happen? Why blockade a random other member planet of the senate?
>>217402486HOW did the Republic become the Empire? What were the "Dark Times?" Is it a plague? A depression? What were the "Clone Wars?" Who the heck is Biggs, why did the movie treat Luke's friendship with him as significant when we never saw him prior? Deleted scenes don't count. If Stormtroopers are so deadly, why were they easily taken out by teddy bears in Return of The Jedi?
>>217402532All of that is answered by “episode IV” in the title crawl and Vietnam.The prequels were an attempt to answer most of the questions people had, and only brought more questions due to the incompetence of George Lucas.
>>217402555>All of that is answered by “episode IV” in the title crawlI don't think so, Tim. > and Vietnam.Nope! No outside material of any kind. Especially not a war that happened over half a century ago whose relevance won't matter to a young person watching ANH for the first time.
>>217402555The prequels were not to answer anyone's questions. He specifically made Star Wars as "Episode 4" because it was akin to an old pulp scifi novel where you're tossed into the middle of a story and it's more exciting that way not fully knowing what's going on. The world has a history beyond you and you're just experiencing this thrilling event.
>>217402330Stop being a dumbass. The Rise of the Empire doesn't matter in ANH, just the fact that the galaxy is controlled by an Empire. How it came to be is not a necessary part of that film's story. You know that.
>>217402370The phantom menace is actively trying to explain how a trade dispute caused a major galactic conflict. The film is taking on the responsibility of explaining this for the sake of the plot. Sorry your too stupid to understand that a plot needs exposition
>>217402633Stop being a dumbass. The Trade Federation's history with Naboo doesn't matter in TPM, just the fact that the planet is blockaded by a megacorporation. How it came to be is not a necessary part of that film's story. You know that.
>>217402669I already told you to stop being a dumbass. Now stop it.
>>217402669>The Trade Federation's history with Naboo doesn't matter in TPMCorrect. The concerns are with the trade federation’s present and how they’re also a member of the galactic senate and are exerting military pressure on another member of the senate because…
