What went so right?
Just lucky. Nothing else. Pieces just dropped in their place.
>>217402666The first part went right. Second and third part are slop and only bottom-feeding capeshitters disagree.
Talented people worked hard on something they cared a lot about and, for once, had just enough studio money to get the job done without massively cutting corners.
>>217402666Nothing, these movies are dreck
>>217402666It didn't stick 100% to the books and took creative liberty when needed.
>>217402666Heavy usage of prosthetics over cgi.
>>217402666I love tolkien always have since I was a kid. I thought they wree ok but the gay actors inserted to much soft focus lingering stares and frodo and sam were too whingeyBut the real disaster was they reft off the ending entirelyWhich was the whole fucking point,The shire is DESTROYED and just by a slimey minion and the hibbits are left to fight for it on their own with none of the people they risked their lives for who abandoned them.
>>217402666Simple It was all white hence it went right.
no one wanted skateboarding elves, gay lingerinng stares and the actual ending of the story left off because it was too dark and grim for modern audiences
>>217402666Best score of all timeGreat source material loved by those working on the filmsGreat costume designGreat casting Great use of prosthetics and miniatures Tasteful use of early cgiExcellent environmental settingThe moves deserved every award they got and more. Lil contrarians on 4chan will squeal because they have to be unique hecking snowflake chungus
>>217404149>Talented peopleIi would say knowledgeable or well-read. For example, they made pretty realistic weapon for the movies even by medieval standards, although they could have made some utter fantasy shit. It is really very well-crafted movies in the first place.
>>217404289This
>>217404119the best parts of these movies are the parts that Jackson took wholesale from Tolkien and adapted as close as he could from the source materialthe worst parts are when Jackson went his own way and forced his proto capeslop and CGI fest in particular in the second and third moviesbasically the first movie is the best because it is the one that is closest to the books apart from a few inevitable cuts (tom Bombadil and all)
>>217404289The Peter Jackson movies are to lotr, what the sequel trilogy is to star wars
>>217404421Groypers already malding so hard their cat ears fall off their heads.
>>217402666>and then just when all hope is lost, aragorn uses his invincible ghost arms and they auto-winThis is basically marvel slop that uncs defend with religious fervour
>>217404119>>217404343Reminder that 'slop' is used exclusively by Twitchniggers, because they would get banned by their tranny e-daddies for hate speecherino if they used anything else.
>>217404471Not only does this nigger not read, he thinks about twinks constantly. Really tragic what's happening to the youth of today
>>217404497>This is basically marvel slop that uncs defend with ACK!!!!!!
TT and Rotk have flaws, but I still love em. I've read the books I understand that these movies are close to the best possible outcome in a hollywood system.Rotk is a bit of a mess but it still has legendary moments like Theodens speech before the charge at pelenor fields.If you are a hardcore book fag I understand your criticisms but be realistic about it. We know exactly how much fucking worse it could have been based on todays franchise films.
>>217404289>>217404263>no one wanted skateboarding elves, gay lingerinng stares and the actual ending of the story left off because it was too dark and grim for modern audiencesNo one who loved tolkiens books liked these fiolms because they actually left off most off the end of the books and the end of the story so illiterate pissants like you would not feel sad
>>217404611>>217404611>If you are a hardcore book fag I understand your criticisms but be realistic about it. We know exactly how much fucking worse it could have been based on todays franchise films.fair but don't pretend they were great or even good. You can't leave out the scouring of the shire and say that. No legolas or gimli or gadalf or aragorn there, the hobbits where discarded like russish and their homeland was destoyed and no one came to help in their fight
>>217404250There were brown people, but exactly where they were supposed to be, like on the oliphant.
The gay sex scenes. LoTR is genuinely loaded with homosexual themes, motifs and interactions. Even the core relationship between Gollum and Frodo/Bilbo is an expression of the shame a devoutly Christian man would feel at having erotic feelings for other men. An obsession with little ring you so badly want to slip your finger through, you love it, but it's wrong, it's evil. Outright LGBT literature can't even come close to how eloquently Tolkien portrays gay ideas, and they emerged from his subconscious, lending an honesty and artistry to it that self-labeled "queer writers" can only sloppily describe in their college-lite manifestos about cock. He's the Michael Jordan of gay fantasy writing. The Plato of homosexual musings. The Joyce of implied sodomy.
>>217404829who killed saruman, don't search tell me.It's not in the films
>>217404729>>217404263>>217404239You keep repeating yourself RoP tranny.
>>217404851that's untrue but there was a great deal og homosexualisation of sam ad frodo by the largely homosexual cast.It was a considered insuult to Tolkien who was a married Catholic with children as is your post. You are a little man, he was a great one.
>>217404851See>>217404471
>>217404878kys illiterate nigger>>217404856>who killed saruman, don't search tell me.>It's not in the films
>>217404898>You are a little man, he was a great one.Where did I say he wasn't great, bigot?
It's tolkien but for burgerbrown teenagers who can't read
>>217404786They're good family entertainment that I can watch with my 8yo kids. They started to shout YOU SHALL NOT PASS as soon as they finished the first movie, and without the influence of social media or other people, so you know it did something right. I hope that they'll read the books one day of course, and the Silmarillion too if God wills it.>>217404909In the books Grima killed him.
>>217404918No one likes faggots. Not even faggots.Tolkien was a married Catholic.
What if John Milius had directed the movies?
>>217404851You know that you can "slip your finger" in women too.
>>217402666only the first film is great, the second film is merely good and the third film is indistinguishable from marvelslop, excused only by the mordor volcano scenes, the last hour of the film is just people saying goodbye to each other.
>>217404942>In the books Grima killed him.Not in the films is it and it happened inn the shire with Frodo and the other hobbits there after he has destoyed and polluted the shire, not in the film either.The films are in the end of the day, shite. Could have been great but just had to fuck it up with arwen, skateboarding elves, homosecual sdam and frodo and completely ruining the story by leaning of the entire ending and the most important part of the books
>>217404497it's no different in the book, instead of ghosts it's just menthe ghost army just allowed jackson to save time>>217404239>>217404263>>217404786you are the only nigger that has ever cried about the scouring of the shire being left outlearn how movies work before you post again
>>217404965Why do you think so much guilt and shame was associated with the ring? Why are you so homophobic?
>>217405005I'm probably the only person you ever met who actually loved the books as well.Some brown burger get's his version of Toliken, like capeshit but with swords and a happy ending. The retard version.
>>217405001Yes, you already repeated yourself here twitchnigger tranny.>>217404119
>>217405052Because faggots are psychotic aberations. I don;t much like serial killers or cannibals either.
>>217404987"Can" being the operative word there. You can't put your finger in a man's pussy, now can you? The ring is clearly coded as "male". It's a symbolic golden anus, anon. Just accept it.
>>217405053You already repeat yourself here Twitchnigger broccoli head tranny.>>217404938
>>217405108seething burgerbrown capeshittercorrected by people who can read
>>217405002>Not in the films is ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djmahoN32A8redditors like you used to take care to disguise themselves when posting nonsense
>>217404786Do you not remember how much normies complained about how many endings Rotk had?There's no way they could get away with another 30 minutes of the scouring of the shire.I like the movies so much that I'd have enjoyed it if they did every possible scene they could. But it's not realistic to fit that into a big budget hollywood film
>>217405053>I'm probably the only person you ever met who actually loved the books as well.far from it brownie
>>217405052>Why do you think so much guilt and shame was associated with the ring?because it symbolizes absolute power wielded for its own sake and for tyrannyGod, I hate literary analysis so much, you retards manage to force any and all interpretations you want whereas the plain sense of the text is obvious for anyone
>>217402666Jewish psy-op to make goyim think dying for Israel is epic and cool. (+ obvious s*tanic trips).
>>217405002Sure but the movies are already 3 to 4 hours long. I dislike Jackson's manierism just as much as you but it doesn't stop me from liking the movies for what they are.>>217405095I'm so glad to not be gay. >>217405168In the books it happens when they come back to the Shire, at the end of the third book. But this part is scrapped in the movies so the way Jackson did it is fine to me.
>>217405283What fans and Tolkien wanted you to think:>Symbolizes absolute power wielded for its own sake and for tyrannyWhat it actually is:>A symbolic golden anus that let you turn into an depraved voyeur if you dare penetrate it This "absolute power" did nothing but turn Gollum into a hideous, diseased little weirdo gooning in a cave to the memory of penetration. That's not absolute power. That's homosexuality. As the Bible said, you will know it by its fruits. These are some very naughty and gay apples.
>>217404851literature itself is inherently gay as fuck, so jackson understood the assignment.
>>217402666Autism, passion, studio taking a gamble and trusting without micromanaging, era when casting call was whoever you wanted and not quota skin-color based
>>217402666>the movies with the biggest plotholes in Cinema>right
>>217405636>biggest plotholespost em anoni hope you're not the same idiot last week who tried to claim the star wars prequels were littered with plotholes and then proceeded to shut his clam up after i disproved every single one
>>217402666The Manchildren Holy Grail
>>217404149Pretty much. Everyone who worked on the trilogy operated at the height of their powers due to a respect for the source material.
>>217405062nta,even Viggo himself said that the 2nd and 3rd films were noticeably worse because they were just aimless CGI battles.The reason the 1st film is good, is because it's an adventure film with ambigious consequences, the moment Gandalf resurrects or whatever is the moment where the films become handicapped.
>>217406010so blame tolkien then because that's how the books go too
>>217405062Do you disagree that parts 2 and 3 are slop?Yes?Then you are a capeshitter and your opinion is irrelevant.
HELP US WIN, INVINCIBLE GREEN GHOSTS
>>217406010Viggo says that he preferred the first movie because the focus was on the dialogue and in the latter movies there is less dialogue and more battles. For an actor that is pretty understandable, Aragorns part is pretty much nothing but action from Helm's Deep through to the end.
>>217404119Filtered
>>217406133See>>217406310
>>217402666Why do midwits think this is a good adaptation of the books? It's super melodramatic with slowmo crying faces and string orchestras every fucking 20 minutes
>>217406061See>>217404527
>>217406361Maybe you would enjoy it if there were subway surfers or GTA 5 gameplay below it?
>>217406406I would enjoy it more if it had the same somber tone as the books
Boring cape shit tier for nerd uncs.
>>217406361real simple as to why- remove the unnecessary prose passages and songs- remove unnecessary characters and subplots- restructure the story to fit the film medium better
>treebeard, the warden of the forest, does not know that Isengard is cutting down forest (despite saying that orcs are "gnawing and biting"). neither do the other ents. they have to be tricked by pippin to figure it out>the good guys plan rests on sauron thinking aragorn has the ring, yet the nazguls discover frodo holding the ring in osgiliath, yet this is just forgotten in the next filmWhat was Hackson thinking?
>>217406423Books don't have a somber tone. You imagined it.
>>217406595He was thinking he wasn't making a film for retards that can't follow very basic exposition and character drama. It might have been a bit over your head.
>>217406662No, the ralph bakshi version nailed it. Even if it isn't a better movie, but still
>>217406595huh, you're just as retarded as the prequel nigger from last week, making up the same stupid bullshit nitpicking and calling it a plothole
>>217406061Speak English you mongoloid
>>217406595>the subplot where gollum tricks frodo that sam ate up the lembasantikino
>>217406310Capeshitter.
>>217406753>no dont think on it too hard! just enjoy things!
>>217406662The books don't do much tone-setting at all, to be honest. It often feels like you're looking at the characters through a spyglass.>>217406697>ralph bakshi version nailed itSo you didn't even imagine it yourself; you let Ralph Bakshi do it for you
>>217406808I accept your concession
>>217406692>>217406753Hacksoncucks seething
LOTR is fantasy capeshit. These are extremely overrated movies. The CGI looks like shit nowadays, the acting is truly horrific and it's full of quips. This isn't some great work of art, it's just fantasy Star Wars that people defend because of nostalgia. Watch a good film (picrel) for once and stop spamming this capeshit trilogy
>>217407208>pretentious bullshit from some teenage retard afraid of how he is perceivedshut the fuck up
A lot of it is cringe and felt like just another one of those quipcore movies. The CGI aged terribly.
>>217407325Jackson couldn't help but use some of the most corniest and cliched lines in film.>You and what army>This army!etc.Honestly what saved the movie was the costume designs, music and certain actors. They toned down the quips for the last film as well
>>217402666Techwise it was at the perfect intersection where there was still this huge industry talent for practical effects and just enough CGI to do things but without being able to rely on it for everything. So you have the best miniatures, makeup, etc. and also had real tryhard artists pushing CGI to it's limits instead of an army of jeets making it. Culturally, we were at a place where people just wanted to see the story come to life in live action and that wasn't taken for granted and used as a springboard to insert gays and nigs into things. Even then it was a minor miracle it turned out the way it did since early on Arwen's role in the movie was going to be much bigger with scenes having been filmed of her being a bigger stronk wymyn before someone stepped in and put a stop to in.
>>217407237Fuck off cloakshitter
>>217407407>pushing CGI to it's limitsReturn of the King came out in 2003, there were PS2 games with better CGI.
>>217407389That is a deleted scene though. Honestly, I don't know why people prefer the extended versions. Most of those scenes were cut for a reason
What the fuck went wrong with the hobbit?
>>217402666I think the extensive behind the scenes footage tells a lot about how they made it work. The crew was very competent and genuinely cared about the project, issues were easily fixed, and they had the budget.>checked
>>217407493I love the scene where we see the elven army and they are all the exact same model with the same face
>>217407466>PS2 games with better CGI than GollumSYBAU
>>217402666this movie could have used a LOT more diversity. are we supposed to believe all hobbits, dwarves, and elves are white?
>>217407516The entire budget when to Gollum. This is why Minas Tirith looks like shit. Video game border-tier mountains and piss yellow fields with no discernable structures or farms
>>217407493If it was just one movie, and PJ/Walsh was in from the start, I'm convinced it could have been it. Instead we got that
>>217407493rushed production led to them leaning into wacky cgi fests.
>>217407551>Minas Tirithwasn't CGI. SYBAU
>>217407516Gollum is the exception because they spent countless dollars and man hours on him. Its also prerendered unlike games
We willl never return in the 1995-2005 Golden Era.
>>217407551>no discernable structures or farmsThis is pretty fucked actually, my suspension of disbelief can only take me so far
>>217407471There are plenty of good cut scenes.Extra scenes of hobbit life in the shireGimli and Legolas talking in the boat after leaving lothlorienMore Faramir Boromir Denethor backstory which helps salvage some of the worst aspects of movie Faramir and Denethor
I don't like how all of a sudden the entire world looks barren and dead in the movies. Rohan and Gondor and both barren wastelands
>>217407691The extra hobbit scenes is just throwing out exposition while a hobbit montage is playing. If you don't know anything about lord of the rings, then it isnt very fun to hear, and if you do, it is unnecessary
