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his arc is the greatest thing on TV and feels more relevant than ever
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>>217404763
ancient astronaut theorists ... say yes!
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>>217404763
>wants to make the Centauri Republic great again
>helps put a narcissistic retard in power
>retard leader is secretly in league with foreign powers that want to use and discard the Centauri
>by the time Londo removes the retard, the Republic is fucked
Londo's life is suffering
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The morals of Babylon 5 are pretty simple and SHOULD be obvious but they're shit that everyone is constantly forgetting on a daily basis.
>theres always innocent people on all sides
>two wrongs dont make a right
>eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, sometimes you have to let past aggressions go for a more peaceful future
This retarded two wrongs make a right mentality in particular is getting more and more common lately and it depresses the hell out of me. Every time you call some group out for doing horrible shit they immediately go "well some other group is doing it too!"
If we act like this then every time one person or group does a bad thing it just instantly makes the entire world less moral, it lowers the bar for everyone.
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>>217405300
y'know maybe he was onto something
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>>217405300
>>217405338
You're millenial simps being cucked by pozzed 90s television.
Morals are for boomers and their cattle who live in free prosperity granted by the blood of millions. The true nature of man is as a heroic warrior hunter savage who takes an axe and kills all enemies before they kill him. Every word, every thought, every cynical belief is a finely honed and hefty weapon in his mighty calloused hands. With such muscular strong arms and powerful mental will cock energy, he secures a future for himself by ensuring that even though the wages of war take from him comfort and peace, he ultimately stands atop the mountain of skulls of his fallen buckbroken enemies. To victory.
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>>217405494
I've never heard someone who actually lives a simple and primitive life say shit like this. Your computer, your internet, your housing, your stable food supply and running water, its all made possible due to large scale cooperation. Large scale cooperation and civilization is the norm across 99% of the planet because its better. You go live in the woods with no internet or modern amenities surviving solely on what you hunt and gather and I guarantee you'll want to off yourself within two weeks
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>>217404763
In what way? This show sucked.
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>>217405699
You are the one who does the sucking
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>>217405681
t. Nigger leach with no morals
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>>217405728
>morals are bad!
>actually morals are good and heres why
>you have no morals!
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>>217405494
1990s
>I wasn't there but I definitely know what happened and can judge
1900s-1990s
>I wasn't there but I definitely know what happened and can judge
2010s+
>I've never known anything but a porn addiction and youtube historians so I'm definitely a genius. My stinky balls have been coddled with avocado and electric pleasure sticks so if war popped off I'd be king of the universe.

Insecurity is a sin.
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>>217405681
>Your computer, your internet, your housing, your stable food supply and running water, its all made possible due to large scale cooperation.

Well, there are Christians who also believe this is all Satanic idolatry too.
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MISTAR GARIBALDI
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>>217405860
Ah yes, christianity, the religion thats famously against morality and large scale cooperation, and loves violence and killing
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>>217405681
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>>217405841
Low testosterone. Did you hear that? I called you low testosterone.
You are defeated. Kneel.
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>>217404763
They ripped off I Claudius and it worked perfectly.
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>>217405890
No but many despise and mistrust secular society, electricity and technology.
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What do you want, /tv/?
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>>217405300

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ADvlSZpBo

>Do you want to live forever?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JUzylbu-vXE

They are not yet ready for immortality.
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>>217404916

Most of you have no idea how funny the entire situation with Cartagia actually was.
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>>217406994
If you want to live in a shithole where everyone is stabbing each other in the back feel free to move to africa or india
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>>217406994

https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Dilgar_War

>And you find yourself standing by Bifrost's glow
>Aasgard showing you the mountainous halls
>You fought and you ventured for everyone at home
>Sacrificing everything as you go
>So the honour will be yours my friend
>Heimdal will show you the heaven bridges end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io2tCVDVePQ
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>>217404763
Fuck I really want to get into Deep Space nine and Babylon 5 but I'm stuck watching Star Trek The Next Generation still and I'm only halfway through season 2. It's an enormous slog to get through.
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>>217406539
he always looked he knew where finest pizza parlors were
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>>217407400

https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Line

What's the joke, about Valhalla, and being willing to will to die against a "might foe", or impossible odds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io2tCVDVePQ

>Bifrost is closed for everyone around...
>But not for you my friend since you stood your ground...
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>>217407467
No-one is forcing you to watch things that you don't want to watch, anon.
You can also watch more than one show at a time if you wish, nothing has to be a marathon if you don't want to- as long as you have the mental capacity, anyway.
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>>217407519
unironic schizo
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>>217407346
I did not say that retard. I am Catholic myself. But you definitely have fundie types who think Pokemon is the tool of the debil and Satan is speaking to you through your monitor, and you should never pursue any hobbies because it's how the devil leads you astray.
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>>217404763
If not the best then definitely in top 2

>No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by the force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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>>217407467
If it helps the quality is about to skyrocket. Almost all of the good long running scifi series have rough starts, ds9 and b5 do as well
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>>217407532
I love the aesthetics and the philosophical aspects incorporated into these science fiction shows. I also find the late 80's and 90's television CGI to be incredibly charming and comfy. These shows can be very atmospheric and have an ambience to them. I really like it and it's best for watching late at night.
I like start trek TNG don't get me wrong. It's just that the first two season have a lot of bad episodes.
I heard season 3 is where it picks up.
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>>217406539
Purple!
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>>217404763
>mfw all the shit from season 1 actually clicks together later on
It's staggering what a difference planning can actually make for foreshadowing and development.
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>>217407608
The biggest difference is not everything had to be an action show wearing a different skin to get the budget. A huge part of Star Trek is just technobabble, be it mechanical or medical.
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>>217407467
Watch the series from bearded Riker.
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>>217407624
Its honestly more amazing that ALL of these enormous multimillion dollar decade long tv shows aren't master planned from the start. But b5 took it to a new level, they had a billion contingency plans for any kinds of unexpected changes to the cast or timeframe, that's why when actors had to leave it usually felt super natural.
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>>217407683
It's mainly due to Straczynski's autism. You can see how B5 goes astray in the last season when he didn't have the time to develop it thoroughly.
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>>217407608
The phrase "growing the beard" to mean getting good was invented by TNG because Riker grows a beard in season 2 and then they have episodes like Measure Of A Man.
Season 1 & 2 are consistently underrated; they were trying to emulate TOS and they finally grew out of it in season 3. They aren't that bad really.
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>>217407661
I appreciate that a lot about TNG. It's a breath of fresh air compared to the slop hollywood is putting out these days.
I like that the characters will just sit and have a discussion about things, while nu-trek is just SCREAMING and EXPLOSIONS.
Mr. Plinkett was right about JJ Abrams making Star Trek 2009 and 2013 a better star wars movie than actual star wars.
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>>217407761
Such a shame that the show got cancelled and then uncancelled. They wrapped up all the major plotlines for the end of season 4 and then had to pull a load of new plot out of their asses for season 5. It's good they were able to move the original finale to the end of S5 though, at least there was that.
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>>217407014
i thought it was funny
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>>217407014
How funny was it actually?
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>>217407575
breaking the chains scene was a bit on the nose, but g'kar was the MAN
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>>217407820
I think if it had more time and money Babylon 5 genuinely would have been the greatest show ever made. It already ranks pretty high even with tons of glaring flaws
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>>217404763
>>217407575

B5>DS9>TNG>VOY>ENT>>>TAS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the nuTrek shit idk haven't watched most of it, ST:PIcard was the one that broke me
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>>217408019
Have you ever realised that they never, not once, shot on location? It was the main reason the show was set on a space station. They only ever shot on sets, mostly the standing B5 station sets. They saves soooo much money making B5 compared to what Paramount was pissing away with TNG/DS9 at the same time. That and all the CGI was made by a bank of 24 Amiga PCs in standard 4:3 resolution
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>>217407467
If you're going to skip to DS9 watch these TNG episodes first:
The Wounded
Ensign Ro
Chain of Command

Also probably Best of Both Worlds since it's relevant to Sisko's backstory and the first episode
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>>217408099
Ok but Babylon 5 was shot in abandoned factories that quite possibly killed half the cast via contamination
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>>217407575
Why was he so racist against humans tho?
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>>217408129
What a load of bullshit lol It was a hot tub factory, what contamination lmao
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>>217408099
>That and all the CGI was made by a bank of 24 Amiga PCs in standard 4:3 resolution
and lambasted even back then
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>>217406539
>the scene when kosh confronts him
>the lights go out one by one until he is just a shadowy figure
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>>217407848

>The map is not the territory
>The map is the territory

Just a little hint to the depths of funny.
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>>217408247
hot water exposure
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>>217404763
Why did he have an accent but all the other centauris spoke normal?



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