they explained why everything sucks now>studios are too scared to take risks so everything has to be sequels and established IP>Netflix and other streaming services have strict guidelines of how shows/movies have to be made because people are dumb and on their phones while watching
>>217405562pretty much, yeahGood that Denis Villeneuve still takes risks. Even Nolan still does, sometimes (what a glorious disaster Tenet was).
>>217405562When I pitched a television pilot I was told to try to make it into a novel first so it'd technically qualify as having pre-existing IP. They might've just been letting me down easy though.
>>217405562>1 minute clip, 2 minute Draft Kings ad read
>>217405594>When I pitched a television pilot I was told to try to make it into a novel first so it'd technically qualify as having pre-existing IP.That's the backstory of Ready Player One.
>>217405562Love Al Flecki. His bromance with Matt Damon is pretty cool too.
>>217405608i got one sponsor segment that lasted 15 seconds and sponsorblock skipped it
>>217405562it's way too easy now to bother taking risks. that's basically the problem. Everything has been moneyball'd by analysts.also nobody pays for media anymore, so advertisers are catered to over the consumer"what's the safest thing we can make that will still make as much money as possible" is the game
alright we knew all that but why does /tv/ suck so much now compared to less than three years ago
>>217405618I'm sure it's a common phenomenon nowadays
>>217405674
>>217405674Too many cynical uncs. They pretend terrible shit is all there is and consequently shit on anything new for no other reason than it being new.>>217405721This is cope.
You guys really don't know the real problem? The gatekeeping is about serving the political agenda. It's obvious. Look at the shit that gets greenlit, that they spend millions to make when any idiot on the street could tell them it's terrible. The new Star Trek - one look at it, listening to one scene, and you know it's about woke messaging, not entertainment.
>>217405562Their excuses are all feminine-brained nonsense. >wahhh the audience wants shitty streaming sequelslop with garbage writingThe audience doesn’t know what they want until you give it to them. If Hollywood ditched DEI and shot original high quality scripts on celluloid people would still come out to the theater. Produce shit and you’ll get increasingly shit results.
>>217405817star trek was always woke garbage
>>217405674Say something that goes against a certain demographic's (millennial/xillennial) orthodoxy (/mediocrity) ---> End up getting called brown or gay.>>2174058172017 wants its boring talking points back, dingus.
>>217405840>on celluloidNo one cares.
>>217405741>this is copeNah you’re the one coping. Indians are fucking parasites. The twitter leak proved that.
>>217405887your subconscious mind that instinctually detects falsehood would disagree
>>217405618And it was garbage both as a novel and as a movie
>>217405889No idea what leak you're talking about. The Dorsey employees? Anyway, the cope is you thinking there's that many Indians on here. Loser uncs with their misguided gatekeeping attempts are at fault for this place suffering catatonia.
>>217405914No. It really doesn't give a shit.
>>217405562yeah but did they explain why fritz haber made zyklon b?
>>217405594no that's really good advice. the first time I heard it was from the Pirates Of The Carribean 1 writers in the 2000s. the overhead costs of making a novel are basically just your own time. you have complete control, and if an idea is suited to being made into a movie it can get optioned for a movie (i.e. you get money immediately) before its even actually printed.
>>217406000you are subhuman.
>>217405866>9 years later and still the only rebuttal you is name callingConcession noticed
>>217405562Yeah everyone with two brain cells already knew all of this
>>217405562I can't believe the white christian republican conservatives in charge of streaming are ruining tv and film like this
>>217406005there's also the added bonus that if a movie is made from the novel you get boosted sales of the book as well as whatever you make from the movie
>they never admit it's because the movies suck nowthese idiots were sucking off sinners and OBAA garbage in the same interview. it's all a circle jerk to impress their delusional jew handlers.
>>217406068they don't admit its because the movies suck because they have no direct control over that - no one in the entertainment industry does. there aren't a bunch of great unproduced scripts lying around being ignored. if you've seen any of the Black List scripts that got made you'd know they're mostly average to bad. so the whole industry is basically waiting for remotely viable ideas to drop into the in-tray and has to put money into something bankable in the meantime to keep the lights on.
>>217406143>there aren't a bunch of great unproduced scripts lying around being ignored.you sure about that? straight white males (overwhelming % of great writers in history) have been explicitly barred from breaking into the industry for at least the last decade.
>>217406011That would put you at insect-level.>>217406014Hollywood has always been libs and TDS effects have been reduced significantly since the reelection. The problem at hand is clearly more related to the uncertainty surrounding marketability rather than by now outdated political overreaction.
>>217406068>Why do movies suck now?>IT'S BECAUSE MOVIES SUCK NOWAre you mentally challenged?
>>217406193Lol, overwhelming majority of writers in Hollywood have always been Jews.
>>217406143If I had a pile of papers on my desk I would hope that I was fired for negligent incompetence.
>>217406201no one ever admits anything new sucks. that's part of the reason they like streaming - nothing can really be an obvious flop without box office. they get paid like it's a hit and pretend like it is, even if no one watches or gives a single shit.
>>217405562matt damon and ben affleck are cia assets
How many of you crying whores even know how to handle a digital camera or fucking Blender? I hate you people, truly.
>>217406242nah Jews make good agents, producers and executive types but rarely are they creative geniuses except in weird comedy genres like Woody Allen movies or Seinfeld/Curb
>>217406193TV writers rooms have become less white. but that's unrelated to the topic of spec scripts.
Based Bostonites keeping it real
>>217406311>just talking out of your assspec sales have fallen off a cliff the past 15 years for everyone, but especially white males who have the extra DEI hoops to jump through.
>>217405817of course they know but it's financially beneficial for them to perpetuate the lie
>Affleck shits on superhero movies>was in 4 of the worst capeshit flicks ever
>>217406194>outdatedThat you think it's not still going on full throttle despite especially being on /tv/ invalidates you
>>217405562>Maybe we should make shows more captivating so people don't get distracted by a 2nd screen?>No, the opposite.
>>217406366you're implying that white guys are writing great scripts that aren't being made because they're white, and they just, like, accumulate in piles like >>217406143 it doesn't work like that. most submitted scripts have always been ultra-derivative if not outright garbage. spec sales have fallen off a cliff because studios stopped buying vaguely promising scripts to "develop" (i.e. rewrite) as none of them have spare money for that any more. instead they only jump on a bandwagon after external production companies put together a viable package, preferably with attached actors. in many cases those companies just make the fucking movie and then shop it around for distributors only after that because having a studio involved only complicates things -- i.e. a studio doesn't even directly make the movie. if that doesn't happen the best case scenario is getting on the black list.
>>217405562Everything sucks because everything is anti-White Feminist Gay BLM Antifa Propaganda
Hollywood makes movies for the whole world instead of for North America like in the past, making certain genres like comedies not worth investing in
>>217406418>despite especially being on /tv/Being on here is one of the main things that "deradicalized" me. So many of you are delusional retards.
>>217405562>Goy RoganNot watching that Palantir shill
>>217406143that's literally a ton of scripts though
>>217405562This is the official reason given, when the unofficial reason is just that they're burning money to demoralize you so that when things go back to normal you think they've improved
>>217406263Clearly they are admitting that everything new sucks, considering that they're addressing the question of why everything sucks now.
>>217406658>when things go back to normalOh, you sweet summer child.
>>217406687well normal in the sense of media quality. They're still sending whitey to WW3
>>217406193spot on graphic
>>217405562Here's every original animated film they've put out since 2020
>>217405562And its the studios own fault by hiring shit writers refusing to make shit people actually like and want to watch. They spend too much effort focusing on DEI shit and shoehorning in their shit messages that they have no room to do that but also take risks and not rely on established franchises that can be succesful largely through name alone
I wouldn't call handing over almost the entirety of male-skewing IP to feminist and other political activists as risk-averse behavior. Doubly so when you look at the sheer budgets involved and the sustained effort.
>>217406536>studios stopped buying vaguely promising scripts to "develop" (i.e. rewrite) as none of them have spare money for that any more.Oh yes but they have hundreds of millions to light on fire with these "safe sure bet" tentpole slops that keep tanking at the BO. The perceived "risk" of making original movies is complete horse shit when you have gatekeepers with taste. The "safe bet" franchises of today all started with "risky" original movies, but you can only milk one property for so long. Playing it safe ironically risks the relevance of the entire industry, when your audience becomes apathetic and doesn't trust that the creators are in good faith trying to entertain, but instead trying to milk their money by coasting on nostalgia of the days back when Hollywood was actually a creative meritocracy.
>3 left wing nutjobs complaining about problems created by left wing nutjob led NetflixPoetic
>>217405674>why does /tv/ suck so much now compared to less than three years agoMore brown people. More Slav's shilling for Ukraine or Russia. More yellow people agitprop.
>>217405674it sucked three years ago compared to six years ago. and it sucked nine years ago compared to six years ago.
>>217405817>The gatekeeping is about serving the political agenda.Correct.
Why would netflix waste their time and resources on being background slop instead of being engaging?They sell subscriptions. They don't get paid by screen time or ads.
>>217406744Looking at the covers, Raya, Fixed, and Kpop Demon Hunters are the only ones that don't have that generic, low-effort animation style.
>>217405580I unironically liked tenet. Not for the reveals, the science fiction was mid. Dunno what I like in that movie.
>>217405562Pretty sure they're just taking whatever cheap slop scripts they have lying around, scooping up an IP for an established fanbase who will certainly watch it and then changing their slop script to """fit""". See something like Alien: Earth, a generic as fuck Sci-Fi flick about cyborgs and their place in future society but slap a shitty CGI Alien in there at the last ten minutes and call it an Alien movie.
>>217405562This is the future of entertainment now that Netflix is the biggest studio with the widest reach:https://youtu.be/1qrHgXg-cfc?si=fQwP8CTG20xOvtF8
>>217406242The Jews created Hollywood exactly so the could more easily steal shit from other people and avoid the Jew lawyers in NYC.
What were the five best original movies of 2025. You can include 2024 if that is too hard.
>>217406850the cheapest tier of netflix has ads
>>217407003i was about to say bugonia but thats a remake
>>21740700328 years later was original and genuinely good, it got an unreasonable amount of hate.
>>217406618again you fail to refute and only insult. useless.
>>217407029>zombieslop>original
I can see it. Affleck and Damon definitely came in when things were still good and lots of good shit was being made, so they would able to see the decline
>>217407051You didn't watch the film.
>>217407003i enjoyed black bag a lot more than most people
>>217407029That's part of a franchise.
>>217407083A franchise that was dead for 17 years and they brought it back from the dead just like a zombie.it was kino seethe haarder.
>>217407005Ewww, I'm subscribed to something that poor people watch?Cancelling my subscription right now.
>>217405562Lmao. I was literally on my phone the whole time during the Rip except when the dei disappeared near the end.
>>217405721Yeah, everything in your life is some brownshit's fault. Never take accountability. Maybe after deporting everyone and you end up cleaning toilets you'll have a come to Jesus moment.
>>217406412Yeah? So he gets to shit on them because he actually participated and got paid. Meanwhile incels here will complain for free lmao
>>217407343Uh, the mexican that stands by my toilet all day waiting to clean it gets to stay. So does the toe nail clipping mexican and the nose hair trimming mexican.
>>217407392>having nose hairWhite beautiful Americans! God, I love being actually white unlike racist muttmericans.
>>217405674It has actually improved from corona times. Back then they didn't ban racial baiters. Sometimes at times of high activity it still returns to that shit. Glory years were way before corona.
same thing why the AAA gaming industry is dead>devs were just guys being dudes back in the 80s and 90s>they experimented and perfected gaming in the 00s and early 10s>then a mix of retirement and woke>the old guard left and media giants were inherited by absolute retards>experimenting is dangerous, we need to chase trends>free money for following a dei checklist? sure thing>of course we will listen to your sensitivity consultant>optimization? no need, just make it 100+ gig and fix it later with patches>every western franchise is run into the ground
anybody who has an original movie idea needs to find some way to "pre-franchise" it where you make it in a different medium.like a novel or comic book or youtube video or indie game.then they come to you for the rights to your propertyyou get your idea made, and they feel like they're making a safe bet on an "already existing IP"tldr: "let" them make "Fred: The Movie" by making the "Fred" that you want to be a movie
>>217407003just a list of stuff I likedI Swear (no one on /tv/ has seen this)CompanionSinnersPsycho Therapy: The Shallow Tale of a Writer Who Decided to Write About a Serial KillerRoofmanSon Sung Blue
>>217405562DEI quotas are anti-risk, how? "strict guidelines" LOL politburo sez noe!
>hollywood starts to make video game adaptations>you only get to work on the project if you hate video games
Any of you niggers got a Criterion streaming subscription?Is it any good? Do you get all the shit you want to watch?
>>217405608On that note, what’s with the surge in gambling ads this past year or two?
>>217405741You couldn't even wipe your own ass even 4chan was in its prime you stupid little faggot. You've contributed to and never known anything but shit.
>>217405817Why did I have to scroll to find this truth? They will throw millions away to push their agenda. I didn't realise /tv/ was a normie heartland.
I tried watching the episode but it's hard to get past Joe Rogans obvious glazing
I'm genuinely excited for the future of the industry because with Hollywood dying and direct-to-consumer distribution anyone anywhere can make whatever they want and have the same chance of doing numbers as George Lucas in 1970.
they don't care about how much money they waste when it's all insured and they can just print more.
>>217405674rapeape said on twitter that most of the good posters left to twitter. which is probably correct, twitter is just 4chan now
>>217405961>Anyway, the cope is you thinking there's that many Indians on hereYou're beyond retarded
>>217405562They forgot to include that wokeness ruins art, but they're close.
>>217407392We will always need dickwashers
>>217405853>Non-consensual kiss>Cancelled shortly after due to ratings.Looks like woke has always gone broke!
>>217407560Distraction + false hope for da poors so they stay preoccupied + don't riot (increases the cost of policing, or puts pressure on admins to "do their jerbs")
>>217406766That's why they use focus groups and testing and data driven analysis to create movies. The only problem is that, despite sounding like science, all of those create terrible movies by amplifying human bias and this has been a known problem since the 70s.
>>217407729He's attractive in a weird way. Are we sure he has nothing on the zest-meter/quotient?
>>217405674mods allow pol shills
>>217405674Mods allow bot spam and remoed the ip counter to hide the amount of bots per thread
>>217406744I will not stand for any Luca slander.
>>217406412Daredevil and?
they blame studios and not the 3rd worlders with shit taste, the browner america gets the worst everything gets
>>217405562These guys became famous for writing juvenile Gary Stu shit with tacked on melodrama and got their balls licked for it. The bar was already low.
>>217407003WeaponsBlack BagThe Rip RoofmanSong Sung Blue
>>217405671>also nobody pays for media anymoreNo, white people still pay for media, this entire discussion is a demographics issue same with all the annoying theatre experiences people keep complaining about.
>>217406658>Bro, bro, it’s a psyop
>>217408249Movie theaters are basically restaurants now and they spend 30 minutes into the movie delivering food to peoples seats with their phones lit up and its absolutely ridiculous. I hate going to the movies now. Plus 30 minutes of ads and previews.
>>217405562>studios are too scared to take risks so everything has to be sequels and established IPthat's not really true. if you don't put a lot of money into your film you can still take risk and make a profit
>>217405562Joe looking rough.
>>217408396Thats what happens when only a small demographic pays for shit and the rest want it all for free. The theatres are bribing this demographic with an experience. Movie theatres are turning into cruise ships. I went to one of the ghetto theatres and these people stunk up the place with chinese and pizza, fuck that.
>>217405562>>Netflix and other streaming services have strict guidelines of how shows/movies have to be made because people are dumb and on their phones while watchingIronic considering almost everything netflix puts out is catered to the leftard crowd lol
>>217408249this, I took my 70 year old dad to see horizon chapter 1 in theaters and there was not a single person of color in the screening room
>>217407003EddingtonCaught StealingI dunno these list never make sense no one watched every single movie of the year. Most movies are mid just by the trailer alone.
>>217408589kek, you'll still download a car though
>>217408249>he actually pays for netflix and bluerays
>>217405674mods allow reddit shills
>>217405562Ben Affleck looks different. What happened?
>>217408680>westernslop>crimeslop>>217408229true, just another movie that was never any fucking good
>>217405580Tenet would've been so much better if not for the absolutely retarded audio mixing. Completely ruined that movie.
>>217405817this
>>217407343>things will be harder without them!Why do you progs peddle this lie?Because the past has shown that was not the case.
>>217407029Ending completely ruined it. >lol le wacky bongs doing acrobatics around zombies
>>217405562>the BILLIONARES are SCARED >AND THE GOYIM ARE STUPID>Waaaahwomp womp, no the jews are retarded and the industry is controlled by no skill nepobabies and their dei pets who cant do anything right. you can only outsource your shit for so many years before you brain drain yourself and are left with nothing.
>>217407793There is a man nicknamed "chris chan", bet you would like him too.
>>217407343the american goldenage was in the 1800s-early 1900s before the shitskins came. you can clean your own toliet, its not that hard.
>>217406919Most likely that paired with this >>217408874 Hollywood is in a long inevitable death spiral, it can't be rescued, the retard nepos will keep doing everything wrong until the walls come crashing down on them.
