Crazy to think modern audiences watch this and take it at face value as what classic westerns were when it was pretty much a deconstructive parody. It's the equivalent of looking at Scream as the epitome of classic slasher horror.Scary how the context of cultural artifacts gets distorted and washed away as time passes.
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>>217414721It's a lot scarier how the genre informs how people think those times were in any way like. Westerns are pure american fantasy.
>>217414721When most people say a movie is a "classic [insert genre here]" they aren't actually referring to anything regarding the genre itself. They're essentially just saying it's good and old. You autistic freak. Learn to communicate.
>>217414808Why do Westerns get held to this expectation of realism when every other genre is generally understood as a fantasy?
>>217414957because the setting presents a supposed time period that feels close enough to modern day. everything else it's far enough removed it can't possibly be conceived as reality-like
>>217414957becaus movie takes time in an old place so it means that the movie is a history biography. things need to be bulls eyed when that what is given
>>217414721dont mind me but I just wanna say once upon a time in the west is infinitely better the good the bad and the ugly
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>>217414926I assure you that when a newfag wants to get a taste of the "classic western genre" they are so much more likely to watch the dollars trilogy and once upon a time in the west than the actual classic westerns
>>217414808The film that kicked off this era was a 1:1 remake of a Japanese Samurai film directed by Italians shot in Spain and set in Mexico
>>217415120It's objectively worse by every single metric you can measure a film by.The Man With No Name is a more interesting and better played protagonist than Harmonica will ever be. Tuco as the co-lead is infinitely better than Jill, it's not even comparable. As much as I love Henry Fonda in OUTITW, he just can't hold a candle to Lee Van Cleef. Take the theme songs. Man With a Harmonica, no one recognizes. Everyone knows that song. It's maybe the most iconic song of any western ever. Moreover, TGTB&TU is riddled with iconic quotes. "When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk." "There are two kinds of people, my friend: those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." and so on. The other has one, maybe two? "You brought two too many." Egh.Even in cinematography. Can the opening train standoff scene hold a single candle to the cemetery triangle duel? Frank killing those kids and establishing himself as a surprise villain might've worked during that year (Henry Fonda isn't the protagonist, h-h-he's the villain!?), but the scene with Angel Eyes eating at the man's table and murdering him? Better in every way. I hate you faggots that keep pushing this movie. OUTW is such a good movie, but I keep having to shit on it because you keep trying to elevate it past its betters.
>>217415120NoHowever they are both infinitely better than the other two of the dollars trilogy.
>>217414721Unga bunga hork hork hork
>>217415362Anon if anything you're supposed to parallel Tuco to Cheyenne not fucking Jill lol
>>217415362>better playedaaaaand you lost me
>>217415224>Wow this is so much better than Rango and An American Tale 2, I didn't know classic westerns were this good!
>>217415362At the end of the day TGTBATU is a buddy movie where protags just randomly stumble into funny hijinx over and over on a journey towards a treasure. The dynamics that arise from the railroad dispute elevate OUATITW into something much deeper and poetic. You can argue it's not as fun a movie, sure, but it is better.
Anyone else hate westerns? I hate the time period. It doesn't seem cool it just seems sweaty and boring. I always find it bizarre these guys who are on the brink of heat stroke are chewing tobacco and drinking whisky. The action is often uninteresting. Oh wow, you and your friend vs 8 guys in some cousinfucking Pueblo village. uhhh ok
>>217415610no one gives a fuck about no god damn railroad
>>217415661I used to, and then I watched them. Some of them are some of the greatest films of all time, some are Il Grande Duello. Same story with most genres that I'd only seen parodies of.
>>217414772i’m not reading anything written by a girl anon gtfo
But how do we feel about Unforgiven?
>>217414721I hope their media analysis cards get revoked.
>>217415744Overrated revisionist attempt at "ending the western"
>>217415661I like it because it's fantasy with guns and trains instead of swords and dragons
>>217415830How about Django Unchained?
>>217414721Crazy to think people watch Tarantino movies without having watched Leone's and they think his style is his own
>>217414721>He thinks modern audiences are out here watching a movie from the 1960sLmao. They are familiar with the song and the title and that's about it. They probably think it's the one where "this town ain't big enough for both of us" comes from
For me, it's Giu la testa/duck you sucker.
>>217415861Mississippi is not a western state.
>>217416673Lol
>>217414721So you be sayin they lack media literacy
>>217414808Depends on when and where you were on the frontier. I certainly wouldn't want to be in Texas when Comancheria existed. Or anywhere near the Midwest immediately after the civil war.
