Why is the writing on these movies so incredibly dumb? Weren't they the same writers who worked on TNG and DS9?
>>217415411They had a dumb down for a general audience. Normies wouldn't appreciate a fifteen minute scene of them sitting in the observation lounge having ethics debate even though true trek fans would love that.
>>217415440This. They were made for "Moviegoing audiences" not the people who actually watched Trek. You must remember we have people who finish a movie and then immediately run to Youtube to look up a "X movie ending: explained" videos. Ask one of those numbnuts to watch a 2 hour movie and they're okay. Ask them to watch multiple 24 episode seasons with much more in depth concepts and their eyes roll back and they start foaming at the mouth
>>217415440Even the TOS movies had to navigate between Star Trek's core philosophies and making a nice little action adventure story that non-fans could appreciate. It just got way harder with the TNG movies and the success of First Contact proved it could be done, but then they went full retard with Nemesis and thought people wanted a dark story.
>>217415497They also had that weird nexus thing in Generations that's confusing for every audience.And some weird magic in Insurrection.
>>217415440>>217415497>>217415626Why is the show so dumb then too?The new ones I mean
>>217415626Who the fuck got confused by the nexus? Interesting otherspace where all your dreams come true. Not hard to understand. The magic of those long lived people was just some "We've lived a long time and figured out cool shit" flavor to show they were wise in their age
>>217415688The new shows are made for a "modern audience". 90s Trek (well TNG and DS9, Voy not so much) has some misses but for the most part they tried to make the show more intellectual.
>>217415411Well they also had to agree to Patrick Stewart's demands or he'd not do the movies which is why you get stupid shit like Picard being an action hero & zooming around in a dune buggy
>>217415717>Picard could exit the Nexus "anytime and anywhere".>For some reason instead of leaving to Ten Forward a few days prior to arrest Soran he wants his do-over when it's the most risky for him.Also a smart writer would have at least tempted Picard to return to the fire that killed his extended family so he could stop it.Also the nature of "leaving" is unexplored, wouldn't there be two Picards at that point? Or does he somehow "merge" with the Picard in the past effectively killing him.Dumb movie where the TNG parts ruin it.
>>217415792Fuck you, the dune buggy was cool
>>217415823Picard goes back right where he was before entering the string because he doesn't want to fuck with timeline too much. This is Mr Regulation, remember
Generations was a snooze fest and a total waste of Picard and Kirk meetingFirst Contact is absolute kinoInsurrection felt like an okayish TNG episode stretched out to movie length Nemesis was total self indulgent nonsense
>>217415411The writers had to answer to retarded executives and studio executives. Michael Piller wrote an interesting book on the making of Insurrection, basically a cautionary tale about design by comittee.
>>217415537Same for JJ’s “Into Darkness” pile of marvel supervillain cliche shlock, complete with Benedict Cumbucket doing a stupid low voice routine. It was so fucking bad no one even bothered to show up to the next one, Beyond, which was actually fine bc it was written by Simon Pegged. Boy JJ sure fucked up every god damned scifi franchise he took over. What an asshole.
>>217415855By exiting into the past in the first place he already committed to changing the timeline. If his character was that purist to preserving the timeline he would have never sent the Enterprise C back even if it meant the Federation falling to the Klingons or heckled that time traveling fraudster about the future.
>>217415878I would actually read that book. It would at least be as interesting as the movie itself. It couldn’t possibly be less interesting.
