Daily Fallout show thread where we discuss the thousands of retcons and plot holes of this godawful show. I'll begin.>the Strip is infested by deathclaw alphas>humans 20m away on the other side of a flimsy chain-link fence non-chalantly go about their business>deathclaws don't bust through, climb over, or go around to kill everyone in freeside>no group of humans anywhere around Vegas gathered firepower and retook the strip to claim the intact casinos/buildings instantly becoming a powerful factionImagine you're a leader of a powerful gang or merc company. You know the casinos on the strip are empty ready to be taken over if the deathclaws are eliminated or led away - yet you do nothing and ignore the area completely.The opportunity would be too juicy to pass up. Sure, many groups might fail, but eventually those 'Claws would be gunned down, trapped, or led out of the area in the race to retake the strip and becoming medieval lords.
"ohhh noooo they changed le heckin video game lore, I'm gonna poop my gay little pants noooooooooooo" - OP
>>217426978Nice try. It's much worse than that. We're not talking about a minute detail change such as Ghouls somehow needing regular jet hits to stave off going feral. We're talking MASSIVE fundamental retcons of established major factions such as the NCR and Legion.For example the NCR is a huge nation spanning most of Cali and large chunks of Nevada, yet this show constantly tries to get us to believe because the NCR capital Shady Sands was nuked that the entire nation simply disappeared. This is despite the fact that it would take 5 seconds for AI or google to tell you that there are many prosperous cities spread throughout NCR territory.The concept of the Republic continuing on despite the loss of the capital is too inconvenient for the writers of this show and is thereby ignored.
i like the show :)
>Nice try.
why do some people get so defensive when you critique this show? it's very reddit-coded. "just let people enjoy things, just turn your brain off" etc.
>>217427589she's for deathclaw cock
>>217426905only trans people care about the lore of a sandbox game this much>MUHHHH PRECIOUS LORE IN A GAME WHERE MY Characters CAN WIPEOUT MULTIPLE FACTIONS AND Permanently CHANGE THE SOCIOPOLITICAL LANDSCAPE IM DOZENS OF WAYSnothing would ever make you happy. admit it. admit it!
>>217427448critiquing the show is separate from being a lore autist sperging out over minor irrelevant details
>Competent character that does nothing wrong>Show writers treat this as evil and will try to make audiences hate himNorm is the only good character in the show and they are 100% going to make him the villain for it. I'm getting MCU vibes where they treated the new Captain America guy as evil even tho he was doing nothing wrong
My rant: it's shitty writing for a man of his age and experience to be such an excessively angry, rude, abrasive asshole edgelord. He's not behaving like a guy over 200 years old but a man 2-3 years after the bombs dropped, so still middle aged and angry as fuck and on a warpath. A man as old and experienced as the Ghoul being such a rude petulant prick and not having the sense to use the carrot, rather than the stick, with a person like Lucy makes him look less badass and smart. And Goggins leaning into Clint Eastwood as The Ghoul With No Name would actually be more novel for him because we have seen Goggins play abrasive assholes all throughout his career
>>217427589How do 'people' look at this uncanny slop
>>217427832maybe being an ageless zombie makes you a bit grumpy? they’ll probably use the FEV to de-ghoul him
>>21742784616-24 year old men can jack off endlessly to anything
delicious bum
Vidya has gameplay first and coherent story secondWhereas a TV show should have a coherent story first
i hope next episode the bbc character effortlessly murders another viking twice his size then looks at the camera and goes "You next whyte boi, i kno u watchin dis." then a 20 minute scene where he fucks lucy and stares right into the camera like Griffith ensues. Truly peak television. I love niggers so much.
>>217427589BIG LEGION COCK
>>217426905>>217427229>>217427832duplicate thread. Your asinine nitpicks are just as laughable as they were last night. Keep coping
>>217426905when did it say how long the strip has been overrun?
>>217427753troonatics don't care about lore or canon. they just goon to mods and degenerate shit
>>217427832incorrect
>>217427774this
>>217427832correct
>>217427589moar
>>217427774>you shouldn't judge an adaptation on it's merit as an adaptation then why adapt someone else's material? make your own new thing if you want to play fast and loose with the rules
>>217428966Show has been pretty loyal so far as an adaptation of a videogame>"BUT THEY TURNED THE DINOSAUR AROUND NOOOOO"You're an autistic tranny faggot
Anyone got a screengrab of House seething in his helmet?
Do you think they'll make The Frontier canon?
>>217429145it's loyal in a completely superficial way. ie "I recognize that thing from da game!!! look it's da mr house helmet look!!! look it's big iron I member dat song!!!". it's loyal in a way that pleases gullible retards with low standards. it's probably the best example of the capeshittificaton of tv and film. as far as it's respect for themes and characterization, it couldn't be less loyal. it totally misunderstands what fallout is meant to be. tldr kys bethesdrone
>>217428966because an original ip being shit doesn't generate online chatter.
>>217429350a nod to it would be cool. They seem to be handling the franchise with love, especially given the current state of television. I could see stuff like that happening.
>>217429412The only games that count are Bethesda's, the rest are niche shit for retards
>>217429412One notable positive of this show is that it handles memberberries tastefully.
>>217427940>24Low-T detected
>>217429350of course not, they're only human after all
>>217428459Shut up Bethesda drone.
>>217430573oh, you know. Just eatin' good
>>217431104>oh, you know. Just eatin' good
>>217431126Stop. Nobody cares.
>>217427818>>Show writers treat this as evil and will try to make audiences hate himhow??? he is still very clearly the good guy and got choked out by the crazy manager dude.
>>217431528>Stop. Nobody cares.
>>217431609gonna have to bust out the CRT monitor to enjoy this image properly
>>217431609>>217431620Shut the fuck up freaks.
>>217427448Brown shills aren't "people"
>>217427589you know things are in a sorry state when you have white men making AI videos of white women saying they like white men
>>217429424>They seem to be handling the franchise with love,lol. maybe if you think F3/F4/76 are the only things in the series. The script writers definitely never looked up about anything concerning F1 and F2 beyond maybe briefly skimming the wiki summaryThe show never even mentions neither The Master or Frank Horrigan once. There was absolutely no reason to set in on the west coast. It easily could have been stuffed on east coast with minor rewrites. specially as they filmed most of it there
>>217432229>F3/F4/76 all good games. you queers who prop up the first two with decades of head canon and fanfic are a bore. If you specifically only enjoy isometric turnbased games, whatever. Go play something else. If you also enjoy NV but outright hate the other 3d ones then you are just retarded. It's okay to dislike aspects of them, every game will have it's shitty parts, but getting emotional and making blanket hatred a personality trait is quite frankly embarassing.
>>217429458the ip only exists because of the original gamessaying the only thing that counts is bethesda's games is as retarded as saying the only thing that counts is this show
>>217432503He's mostly correct. 1 and 2 serve as a crude outline of the premise and a novelty for diehard fans of the series proper.
>>217427774>minorEntire factions are wiped out purely out of spite
>>217432534For example?
>>217432382isn't it baffling that people that enjoy games where the genre is more associated with story and character criticise story and characters more than those that enjoy games where you just run around shitting different pixels in the face
>>217426905This show is extremely Jewish and filled with super dumb shit, why the fuck would you live next to deathclaw breeding grounds???? Why can't deathclaws just destroy that stupid makeshift gate made of rubbish, WHY IS THE LAYOUT SO WRONG WHAT THE FUCK. THAT IS NOT WHERE YOU ENTER.... man...They did not play the gamesThey do not care about falloutAnd most of all? They fucking hate new vegas and will destroy everything established in it.And one more thing, notice how every prop and item is replaced with fallout 4's art style and not with the originals? Like the stupid yellow powerfist? and of course the deathclaws? they really are erasing everything and make fallout 4 ground zero for everything fallout
>>217432578*shooting
>>2174325321 and 2 serve as the basis and foundation of the ipbethesda games are essentially a modern reboot that dumbs it down for a retard mass market
I like how they cast what looks like an inbred and slightly irradiated lady.
>>217427316Same. It's fuckin fun.
>>217432382>F76>goodLmao you jeets are funny sometimes
>>217432578I assume you're saying that the original games have better stories than the later ones. Do you really think the goofy alt history lore is the main appeal of this franchise to the majority of players? It's a game about exploring a violent atmospheric wasteland. Blow away some drugged up fiends, crack open a prewar safe and take a nap in the corner of the decrepit super market you just took control of. The b tier short stories and movie references are just charming set dressing.I believe that when you get to the point where you're watching hour long history lessons for vidya lore, you're on the fast track to becoming a bitter prick.
>>217432686Eh, it's one of the better multiplayer games around. The excellent setting makes it serviceable as a singleplayer experience, or you can treat it like a mix of the good aspects from 3d fallout and phantasy star online. I revisit it with irl friends once in a while.
>>217432583i feel you anon its all so tiresome
>>217432733>watching hour long history lessons for vidya loreOr... just playing the games? Really telling on yourself here lmao>>217432781Thanks Grok!
>>217432733no, i'm saying the original game has "fallout - a role playing game" on the cover and is an rpg game, which is a genre more focused on story and charactersthen bethesda turned it into an fps-rpg hybrid appealing to low iq shooter faggots that do not care about such things and just want gun to go bang
>>217432583>They do not care about falloutI don't care anymore either. Fallout 3 and new vegas are canon for me, this shit show isn't. I decide when something is canon and when i should stop caring about their garbage, i watch it for free and make fun about this piece of shit. Everything is mediocre now, i miss when hollywood made movie like 12 monkey, it was one movie and not 8 games, a serie, probably a movie etc...
>>217426905More importantly, when will this killer kino be released?
>>217426905slop
>>217432781>singleplayer experienceDifferent anon here, the game has a singleplayer mode? I love Fallout but I'm really not into multiplayer games so I never played 76
I haven't watched this garbage show and never will but did they really do a season about new vegas?What a fucking KWAB moment for bethesda who never created anything memorable with fallout and got mogged by their contractor obsidian
>>217432229NV trannies seething
>>217432858everybody hated it on release so they patched in some npc's and single player narrative later on
>>217432867its not even "about" new vegas more like destroying and erasing everything it established, like as if the courier never existed, you can feel the seething watching it like a weird grudge against NV
>>217432807Is it really that much more of a "rpg" though? On my last playthrough of 1 a couple months ago I was kind of surprised at how limited of an experience it is. The 3d games still usually give you the comply/bargain/kill routes for most interactions but with arguably less yap yap yap. I honestly think you guys way overrate the literary quality of 1 and 2. Read the types of novels that inspired the devs if you want rich fiction.It seems like your main hangup is fps mechanics. If that's a deal breaker for you than it's fine. Not your cup or tea. There's no need to pull your hair out trying to rationalize them being shit in other regards.
>>217432891Interesting, I might give it a shot then. Do I still have to bother with other players?
>>217432583the deathclaws are being mind controlled by house retard
>>217432583the art style thing is so on point they really are making fallout4 the new starting point and origin for everything fallouthave you seen the multiple prydwens?? I guess brotherhood chapters just each have their own fucking airships now and airship that we only ever see in fallout4 because its supposed to be made of the ruins of the enclave mobile base but now retconned to actually be pre-war, yep airships pre-war.... in an era of fighter jets and missiles... lol lmao even, you dont hate bethesda enough anons.
>>217432858You can do pretty much everything solo and only bother with team raids and stuff later if it interests you. pvp is voluntary. It's a great setting and map with good quests. If you enjoy the base building/gather materials loop from 4 there's that as well.It has some of the inherent cheap feeling of online games and a tacky store front pushed in your face.
>>217432921>It seems like your main hangup is fps mechanics. If that's a deal breaker for you than it's fine.yeah, because the aims and focus of the two genres are often in oppositionfor example fps fags complained that guns didn't shoot at the exact point of the ironsight or reticle in fallout 3 because they completely misunderstand that there has to be rng reflecting the character's gun skill and chance to hit in an rpg character-based gameyeah, in a shooter, the faceless protagonist should be able to use every weapon they pick up with maximum proficiency but an rpg is about the character, and the player's choices in development determining their play styleof course bethesda changed it for those retards do putting points into guns almost becomes worthless outside of the vats systeman rpg is objective and about the character the player developsan fps is subjective and about the skill level of the playerthese things are mutually exclusive
>>217432932i wouldn't botherithe dsingle player shit is just an afterthought and is still a multiplayer game
>>217427818NORMGROIDS RISE!!!!
I thought people were exaggerating when they said that Fallout was up there with Star Wars for having the most pointless, nonsensical E-drama, but man, this is next level.
>>217433055You just explained how fallout proved your own point to be false given the sucess of first person rpgs in the last 20 years
>>217433119You get a lot of barely evolved anime enjoyers who don't realize the itch fallout scratches for them could be scratched even more by learning about real world history
>>217433117yeah i also just looked at her a lot even during the thawing scene where we don't know much about themBut she's too good for that bitchy jewish manlet
>>217433017get real criticisms of the show instead of manchild critiques, lots of stuff in the game is only that way because of video game mechanics
>>217433117I looked her up she has no bikini ass shots big mistake she is missing out on a big social media wave
>>217428459yea i make this thread every few days to promote discussion. I'm a bad person
>>217433210>put actual criticism of them blatantly retconning the prydwen>lol manchild no actual criticismbrutally kys pls
>>217433117
>>217432620ding ding ding
>>217433148the ip and this show isn't built upon the fps mechanicsit's the rpg foundation that makes the ipfps is the pg-13ification stage, appealing to as broad of a dumbed down mass market as possible (you)
>>217433117Actress name?
>>217433281you’re a 30 year old man sperging out over unofficial irrelevant changes to video game lore
>>217433401you're a transgender freak fiercely defending garbage
>>217426905Notice this time around theres not much praise most of the things ive seen talking about the show are criticising it, very good. the sooner they realise its a one hit wonder the better so they finally end this steaming pile of shit
>>217433457grow up dude it’s just an old video game
>>217432932Since there's only 24 players per server, and it takes you 5 minutes to run like a half inch on the map, you almost never see anyone unless you join an event in progress, and even that only lasts anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes max.Other than that, I'll see people randomly in towns, but never interact with anyone, ever. There's no real benefit to it except some negligible extra xp.
>>217433467the last episode is widely regarded as the best one yet
>>217433117>>217433224>>217433306
>>217433481>point out serious retcons and disrespect to lore>"Heh you shouldn't care man, it's just a tv show"Shut the fuck up.
>>217433582>they’re disrespecting my precious lore!!
>>217433590It ain't mine and I'm no gatekeeper. I've just as much right to critique the show as you do defending it. If you can shut your brain off and vibe with the show good for you, but don't tell me no one has the right to discuss its flaws. It's a product like any other. What's so hard to understand about that?
>>217433481No!!!! How dare the writers contradict my headcannons and 28 yo videogame lore!!
>>217433621you aren’t discussing flaws about the show, you’re just sperging out over minor inconsequential details. Your entire critique is based off your experience with the video games. Pretend you never played the games. What would your critiques of the show be? That’s what I want to hear, not you crying over your trans simulator
>>217432921>I honestly think you guys way overrate the literary quality of 1 and 2.>arguably less yap yap yap.Any talking head dialogue from the first game is infinitely more engaging than the other games where you, me, and everyone's mother spams through the dialogue. >Read the types of novels that inspired the devs if you want rich fiction.If you're going to be reductive then why don't you go play borderlands or some shit if all you're interested in is picking up crap.
>>217433017>have you seen the multiple prydwens?? I guess brotherhood chapters just each have their own fucking airships>and airship that we only ever see in fallout4You failed miserably and embarrassed yourself. BoS had a fleet of these airships in Fallout Tactics decade before FO4
>>217433281>actual criticism of them blatantly retconning the prydwenlooool, you are an idiot. These airships have been BoS trademark since Tactics came out
>>217434114>If you're going to be reductive then why don't you go play borderlands or some shit if all you're interested in is picking up crap.The irony of this statement made me laugh out loud
>>217426905>>217433117
>>217435098>>217435121"duuuude, what about [game that the fans hated and sent death threats to to the devs when it came out]!!!"Tactics also has glaring issues with the lore, that's why Avellone ignored that game when it came out and Bethesda too decanonized it.
