>Credits will do fine
>>217448255So... if Qui-gon was willing to forcibly take Watto's shit with a mind trick why didn't he just steal the damn part in the dark of night?
>>217448281this. Or just use jedi mind trick on somebody else to get money. Or go to a casino.
>>217448255This was a subtle in-joke about the feelings of most of the audience by this point
>>217448281>if Qui-gon was willing to forcibly take Watto's shithe was not, otherwise he would have
>>217448402heh
>>217449701Anon you do realize the mind trick confirms he was willing to steal his shit right?
>>217449716He was willing to fairly compensate him. Whether or not that compensation was useful to Watto was beside the point. Qui-gon does that my way or the highway shit through the whole movie, it’s fairly consistent in that regard.
>>217449835Mindraping someone to accept useless currency does not meet any definition of fair. What we did learn was that not even the Force is powerful enough to outjew a (((toydarian))).
>>217448255Roll credits
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>>217448255Apparently in lore, if a Jedi gets harmed badly to the point of no longer being able to perform duties (meaning, in a way where even new robot limbs cannot help) they are given the option to leave the order entirely and just start life freshI wonder if there has ever been a Jedi who has just gamed the system on a backwater world with his or her powers>you will give this to me for free>you will have sex with me>you will allow me to cut the lineEtc
>>217449716>Anon you do realize the mind trick confirms he was willing to steal his shit right?No, it doesn't confirm that at all
>>217449835>Whether or not that compensation was useful to Watto was beside the pointNo it's not. If I force you by gunpoint to take monopoly money in exchange for your car that's theft regardless of the "compensation"
>>217449986>Him being willing to steal shit means he's not actually willing to steal shitI'm sorry what?
>>217450002>No it's not. ...it IS beside the point.
>>217449935>Mindrapingreddit is down the hall to the left
>>217450039Explain how forcing someone to take currency useless to them is not theft. Try to actually explain your point in a consistent logical manner.
>>217450049You should head back there
>>217450030in what hospice to do you live in where presuasion is the same thing as theft?
>>217450092It's you who's speaking their language
>>217450098Are you seriously arguing that forced persuasion is not theft?
>>217448281Everyone in this movie was retarded otherwise dark vader couldn't happen
>>217450130It's you who's speaking Talmudic
>>217448255why was their bet on the podrace so fucking confusing?
>>217450138>forced persuasionjust because you have low IQ, doesn't mean people who try to persuade you of something are stealing from you
>>217449963He’s literally me
>>217450177well its at least being dishonest for your own gain. whether that counts as actual theft is up to your own morality. I for example could never sell or convince someone of something that I dont believe in myself
>>217450177Anon a person using literal mind control is absolutely forced. You're acting like a mind trick is just someone using their charisma state to persuade someone when it's forcibly maming someone comply to your desires. This would be considered theft in any circumstance. I'm not sure why this is hard to understand.
>>217450138legally speaking no it is not .anyway credits are not useless to him. he is tax evader. that's why he does not do business in credits. jedis are on important mission, so it it alright for them to try to persuate him to accept the universal currency so they can accomplish their mission
>>217450268>legally speaking no it is not .You have never heard of duress have you?
>>217450225>You're acting like a mind trick is just someone using their charisma state to persuade someoneexcept it works exactly like that. people with great charisma or strong will are able to influence others more easily than those without. the force can be used like that by those with the talent for it..as Obi-Wan explained:>the force can have a strong influence on the weak minded.
Qui-gon was trying to force a sale.
>>217450407qui-gon was a drunk retard. its his fault that everything with darth vader eventually happened
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>>217449935I hate the extended lore that Jedi mind trick was supposed to always work.It’s EXPLICITLY stated it only works on the weak minded. It works on a stormtrooper grunt, and a mob boss lacky.There was never any need to claim a self run business owner was genetically immune instead of just strong willed, like Jabba
>>217448402https://youtu.be/XWQ55EI-tlk
>>217449982The Council didn't think Dookucould be trying to assassinate Padme despite leading a separatist movement against the Republic because, "lol he was a Jedi once."
>>217450503>I hate the extended lore that Jedi mind trick was supposed to always work.KEK who said it was supposed to always work?>There was never any need to claim a self run business owner was genetically immune instead of just strong willed, like Jabbawho said anything about "need"? what's the need for star wars in the first place? and what's wrong with some species to be more naturally immune to the influence of others?
>>217449982>Apparently in loreanon, you're clearly just reading fanfic
>>217450539Who knew that wanting to leave the Republic makes one a murderer? you should be working for disney with that retarded logic
>>217449982>>you will allow me to cut the lineCome to think of it, what is the pettiest possible use of Mind Trick that a Jedi (retired or otherwise) probably actually used?>you will check in the back if these come in green>you don't need to check my blood alcohol level>it will bump out no problem>it is my birthday, so you will give me the complimentary slice of bantha bacon>you will let me order off of the breakfast menu
>>217448255Stealing is wrong that's why a je-hu-di has to convince you through trickery they can steal from you by your own will. Then it's not stealing, is merchantileism.
>>217450338>except it works exactly like thatNo it's not. It's a form of mind control that works on the weak minded. That's how it's explained and shown throughout the series. >Weak Minded people deserve to be pilfered.By that logic so do greedy people and Qui-gon should have just stole the part in the dead of night or exchanged his credits from some idiot dealer.
>>217448255Fully functional galaxy republic empire and or the Jedi order is so assbackwards they can’t just send a communication to home base and ask for a transport in 30 minutes? There is no reason to believe the trade federation would intercept and find them on the entire planet faster then the Jedi could send a functioning ship to pick them up.The Jedi were on an official mission too. They must have ways of sending a coded txt.
>>217451695congratulations, you figured out the prequels are terrible with worldbuilding
>>217451695IIRC they were on the run and didn't know who they could trust or who could be listening in.
