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Hated by critics
Hated by fans
Why?
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much like op, its gay and sucks
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>>217454920
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it was just kind of dull.
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it just wasn't very good. the first film wasn't much either, but Wrath of Khan was so fucking good that everything was gonna look rough after that. Even Voyage Home hasn't aged well.
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>>217454956
>Voyage Home
watched it last year, still thought it was great.
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>>217454928
>much like op, its gay and sucks
Rude
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>>217454920
We already had a light comedy episode with Star Trek IV. Shoehorning in a brother for Spock. Row Row Row Your Boat. Production values weren't up to snuff, not ILM.

It does have a couple of good things going for it though, "What does God need with a starship?" and the "I need my pain!" scene. Otherwise an awful outing.
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>>217454920
Scotty and Uhura fugged. It's canon.
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>>217455059
The correct answer. I'd rather watch the Lower Decks parody because it actually had a rock monster
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>Star Trek 5
FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!!
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as bad as the movie is, it hasn't picked up any "well its actually kino if you really think about it" types like TMP has because V was directed by Shatner (and it shows)
>>217455118
they took a 55+ year old woman and paraded her around like she was 25, what were they thinking
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Comfiest Trek movie by far.
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>>217454920
its like a weird vanity project instead of a real movie
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>>217454920
I never hated it. It just have a very TV movie feel to it.
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>>217455347
my dude here
so many people misunderstand the motion picture
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*has
But other than that it's a soulful flick and it makes you think, as well as laugh several times.
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>>217455347
Row row row your boat....
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I think the movies got worse with each one.
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>>217455567
You think The Undiscovered Country is worse than The Final Frontier? Are you retarded?
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>>217454920
Unsatisfying maguffin.
Unsatisfying retcon.
Unsatisfying climax.
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>>217455059
>"What does God need with a starship?"
Good as in it's a meme, it's fucking dumb.
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>>217454920
They should have called it "The Sexual Frontier"
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>>217455678
I forgot about that one. It's not great, but it is better than V.
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>>217454956
This is such a non-trekkie answer. Wrath of Khan is just a submarine warfare movie but in space. Just watch Das Boot. Not saying it's bad, but saying the other movies are bad in comparison is retarded. The Motion Picture is fucking amazing, pure psycadellic last gasp of 60s/70s sci-fi psycadellia, incredible handmade SFX, cool concepts, character and theme interwoven masterfully into the story. Voyage Home is just fun fan service, which I'd normally hate but they'd earned it by then. I understand having Wrath of Khan as your favorite and honestly you are right about Final Frontier being weak comparitively, but the first movie is a masterpiece and I urge you to give it another chance.

TNG era movies are all ass though, no doubting that.
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>>217454928
correct about op, not about star trek
>>217454956
the motion picture is absolute kino
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>>217456094
>Just watch Das Boot
What a dismissive notion, that tells me you don't understand or haven't seen either Das Boot or Wrath of Khan.



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