How could he physically defeat a balrog? It would be like fighting a chipmunk to the balrog.
>>217458217A chipmunk with extensive magical powers
He's a fucking wizard
hes a wizard you retard
>>217458217I haven't read any of the books recently but im pretty sure when Gandalf needs it, he can be more durable and move better than usual given his old body, If he needs toLike if he tried to cut his thumb with a regular knife, he probably could, but if he was in a fight and got hit by something hard, he would survive.
>>217458217If he's a chipmunk a balrog is also a chipmunk seeing as how they're both Maiar. Also nothing from Tolkien's writings actually suggests Balrogs are twenty feet tall.
>>217458282Pretty sure it implies they're huge, at least bigger than a human
>>217458294It doesn't and they don't have wings either.
>>217458343Yes, it does, you stupid fucking retard. And it also implies they have wings, which is why they have been shown to have wings in more than just Jackson's movie, you stupid fucking faggot.it literally implies they have wings talking about shadows and shit in its vague bs description. but because Tolkien js an anal retard who cares more about talking about the bark in the uncle of Bilbo's backyard, he didn't actually describe them so we don't actually know what the fuck they look like.Tolkien, despite all of his genius and making languages at 13 was such a doofus so often in his writing.
they're the exact same kind of beingthat's like asking how you can fight your brother because your profile pic is a mouse and his is a cat
>>217458217Glorfindel killed a balrog as well and he wasn't even a wizardA shame Hackson dropped him because the movie needed more women
>Stupid people don't understand that tolkien was such a fucking genius he didn't have to just describe how enemies looked because his stuff was just so deep.Bunch of bullshit. Anal old bloke needed to be more specific when he wasnt talking about blades of grass
>>217458514>needed to be more specificclearly not because his works are beloved classics and you're just some faggot
>>217458461>Yes, it doesNo, it doesn't.>And it also implies they have wingsNo, it doesn't.>which is why they have been shown to have wings in more than just Jackson's movieNo wings in this game or half the artwork of them done by Tolkien calendar artists. Some fan you are to not recognize that.>it literally implies they have wings talking about shadowsIt "literally" does not.>His enemy halted again, facing him, and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings.Huh, look at that. Shadows that were "like" wings. Meaning wing-like shadows, not actual wings.Cry more.
>>217458506Peter Jackson dropped him because he isn't a fucking retard and knows how to make movies. That's why he made the best movies ever from tolkiens work. Tolkien in his letters, if you do your homework, approved of changes that would make you fans of him vomit.He approved of so much crazy shit that you guys would have giant temper tantrums about if they happened in the movies.Arwens part was awesome and liv tyler is hot as fuck and her part toally worked. You're a fag, too>>217458535Yeah, I'm sure you'll get some preaent when you go to heaven cuz god is real because you're sucking Tolkien farts. Think for yourself, pussy.
>>217458556Yes it does you fucking faggot ass liar lmao. I just looked it up on Google and it says they are tall humanoid like figures.Token cleary had them as being bigger than regular humans, and you want to deny that and be all specific with your shit because you don't want to admit that you were wrong because you're the expert or some crapYou tolkien spergs are the biggest bitches on the planet. You guys are like actual women.I don't fucking care about calendars or whatever. I have seen several different artworks made before the movies showcasing the balrogs having wings you fucking dishonest piece of shit.Tokien Didn't make it clear if they have wings or not because he wasn't specific enough for many things when it mattered, because he isn't perfect like you guys think despite his genius Eat my butthole, nigger.If we kept arguing, you would just move the goalpost to avoid being wrong.
>>217458217he's ripped as fuck under the robe
>>217458636U mad lol
>>217458673I just completely dumped on your ass and I haven't even read the books before. Talk about proving that you're a fucking moron.Eat shit, you stupid fucking idiot.It literally uses the word wings when talking about his shadows and shit. It makes total sense why people would give it wings and the wings make it look way cooler than Tolkien's little fantasy idea anyway because as I already just fucking said, he isn't perfect like you idiots wanna believe
>>217458217He's a Dex build.
>>217458636>I just looked it up on Google and it says they are tall humanoid like figures.You said they were "huge" not "tall" after I said they weren't twenty feet high. I never said they weren't tall. Need some help moving those goalposts?>I have seen several different artworks made before the movies showcasing the balrogs having wings you fucking dishonest piece of shit.Oh wow, several different pieces of artwork. Several! I guess that means the artwork of wingless Balrogs doesn't exist. Artwork you by your own admission have never bothered to look through.>Tokien Didn't make it clear if they have wings or notMoving another goalpost? You said they "literally" had wings now it's "not clear"?
>>217458702>I haven't even read the books beforeObviously.>It literally uses the word wings"Like wings". "Like" being the operative word.
Oh I'm sorry where did OP go? I thought he "dumped on my ass". Leave your stupid thread already?
>>217458811>>217458842You're both retarded faggots. Balrogs were never described as having wings by nature, but given that they are spiritual beings who can manipulate their appearance to some degree they can form wings if they wanted to. Sauron didn't have wings either until he turned himself into a vampire.
>>217459152>but given that they are spiritual beings who can manipulate their appearance to some degree they can form wings if they wanted to. Sauron didn't have wings either until he turned himself into a vampire.Sauron was unique in being able to shapeshift (initially anyway), other Ainur were set into the bodies they constructed for themselves. No one else is described as altering their hroa once fully incarnate.
>hurr why could this archangel beat this corrupt fallen angel turned shadow demonthis is such a lame, stupid thread
>>217458217They’re both demi-god entities
>>217458217Gandalf is way more powerful than he’s generally portrayed in the movies. He just holds back 99% of the time because he’s supposed to guide humanity, not save humanity.
>>217458573>Peter Jackson dropped him because he isn't a fucking retard and knows how to make movies.then why did he make the hobbit? or mortal engines?
>>217458217Honestly your best bet it to hit a main vain and bleed is slow rather then take the kill hit. Poison is your best bet but it wasn't a viable option here.
It is a myth. He can defeat it because his purpose is to be there to defeat it.
>>217459221They are not perfect shapeshifters like Sauron but they can alter their forms to some degree, given that they changed their Hroa after falling to darkness, but I surmise this takes some time and deliberate effort. When Morgoth was attacked by Ungoliant the Balrogs were clearly stated to "fly" to his aid, but the Balrog that fought Glorfindel did not have wings, as it did not attempt to fly while falling to it's death. It may also just vary from Balrog to Balrog.
>>217458217no it would be like fighting a wizard, not a chipmunk
God saved him, literally. He's an angel.
>>217458272It's called old man strength.
>>217458556>The Balrog made no answer. The fire in it seemed to die, but the darkness grew. It stepped forward slowly onto the bridge, and suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall; No "like" in this passage. Eat shit.
>>217458217It did look like an asspull in the movie. How come Gandalf never uses his super strength to fight other giant enemies like trolls, dragons, or elephants?
>>217458217>elder wizard fighting a fiery demon>just clubs him with a staff in direct melee range and doesnt really do any magicLame ass movie, surely its not this gay and retarded in the books?
>>217460178In the book he did an action slide between the balrog's legs and then did a tactical sodomy with his staff and the balrog screamed and blushed and then POOFED into a million particles.
>>217458217The real question is what was the balrog’s tax policy.
>>217458217A chipmunk could potentially kill a human if it was smart, lucky and carried a razor blade.
>>217460064>Gandalf never uses his super strength to fight other giant enemies like trolls, dragons, or elephants?Fighting isn't the reason he was sent to Middle Earth. Gandalf's role was to be more of a diplomat. That's why he takes on the form of a wise old man.
>>217458217Why didn't he tell Gimli all his dwarf friends were dead? Why just let him find out like that? what a fucking asshole
>>217459982>baby's first extended metaphor
>>217460882>retard's last cope
>>217460878Gimili wouldn’t have believed him anyway
>>217460882embarrassing response
>>217460878How could he have known
>>217460931nope. he's just saying it casts a large shadow. pretty straightforward.
He based the work on the tales of legend where people would fight dragons
>>217460953because the entire time he's like "we shouldn't go down there shits fucked" and even Saruman says he knows that the dwarves dug too greedily so clearly he knew something was up but he doesn't tell Gimli
>>217460178He doesn't have the staff and literally shoots lightning at it. But this is bait and you're a faggot
>>217460878>Why just let him find out like that?Gimli already knew it was likely the Moria colony had met their end. They had no correspondence for 30 years. Gimli had more fear of the truth he suspected than the shock you see in the movies.
>Nazgul King manages to get his ass kicked by Aragorn armed with only a sword and torch in a fucking 5v1>somehow manages to defeat Gandalf 1v1 laterwho was the bigger fraud here? Gandalf for losing to such a jobber or the Witch King?
>>217458235>Exgensive magical powersLike flashlight and fireworks for kids
>>217460869Ok but he consistently gets into fights with evildoers
>>217461158He still has to use restraint. Gandalf using his full power would be far too destructive and would be detrimental to his mission. He's supposed to guide the people of Middle Earth. They would rely too much on him if he just destroyed all their enemies for them.
