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46 years ago the average blockbuster looked like this, it shared the billboard with at least 3 other flicks just as good, all competing for the eyes of your average middle class family
at the time of course these were all considered "just turn off your brain" entertainment
the tickets were two dollars and film critics saw them as too low-brow to dignify with a review
thoughts?
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The lack of revenue from physical media sales made studios risk adverse
Now kill yourself
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>>217477939
FPBP

Studios also rightly understood that Americans have been getting exponentially dumber and more distractable and now most need basic plot points reiterated 3-4x times just for them to process what's going on.
https://ew.com/matt-damon-says-netflix-wants-plot-repeated-in-dialogue-for-viewers-on-phones-11887857
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>>217477908
Adult people stopped going to the movies.
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>>217477939
>The lack of revenue from physical media sales made studios risk adverse
Physical media was from early 1980s to early 2010s. The made lots of great movies before the 1980s.
And when a movie goes to a streaming service, the streaming service is paying for it.
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>>217477908
That's wasn't an average blockbuster.
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>>217478007
Adults don't exist anymore. Just overgrown children.
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>>217477908
This wasn't low brow. It was the adaptation of a famous play by Peter Shaffer. And it didn't even crack into the top 50 in the box office in the US.
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>>217477908
Home entertainment became better and cheaper
Wasting hours on 4chan is free
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>>217477908
The middle class is evaporating, ethnic homogeneity has been all but destroyed, everyone is a phone addict, and movies are struggling to compete against social media and video games. You fuckers don't know how lucky you are that there's still great movies being made.
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>>217477908
>at the time of course these were all considered "just turn off your brain" entertainment
it won 8 oscars including best picture
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>>217478166
>You fuckers don't know how lucky you are that there's still great movies being made.
What movies are those? I legit can't remember the last good movie that came out.
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>>217478119
>>217478180
15 years ago, the average white trash junkie high school dropout low level dealer loser with no prospects listened to progressive rock and could hold extended discussions about emmy awarded series like babylon 5 or star trek. in fact they were more aware of the established lore and character personalities than modern scriptwriters
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>>217478119
>And it didn't even crack into the top 50 in the box office in the US.
It made 5 times its budget at the box office.
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>>217477908
I was just watching this the other day. The opening credits scene alone is better than any movie that came out this decade. It’s a sad state of affairs
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>>217477908
>thoughts?
Masterpiece.
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>>217478283
Because you don't care. And I'm not going to spoonfeed you.
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>>217478351
It's mediocre. Classic Friedkin half-mast flick.
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>>217478296
This is so accurate, espceciallly if you were around /mu/ in 2011. I genuinely think the (you know who) people deployed a bunch of anti intellectual shills on popular forums and started shit like le wrong generation to shame people who thought modern music, specifically modern trash rap music, was shit. And that turned every retard into post ironic shells of actual people incapable of being sincere
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>>217478306
It got blown out of the water by Revenge of the Nerds and Hot Dog: the Movie
>t. Oldfag who was there and knows how little things actually change
>>217478296
Is kinda right though; popular music has gone down the shitter
I blame the war on drugs but God knows there's not one definitive reason
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>>217477908
Amadeus was neither "average" nor a "blockbuster". What a dumb thread.
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>>217477908
People only want either escapist fantasy or movies that validate their preexisting opinions (or both) because most popular media has devolved into a drug that people ingest to soothe their existential dread
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>>217478636
>validate their preexisting opinions
Like OP (if he wasn't baiting)?
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>>217478725
What preexisting opinions do you imagine Amadeus is trying to validate?
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>>217478749
That's not what I said. This entire thread is an obvious sham mischaracterizing the movie in favor of (pretend) making a point along the lines of 'old good, new bad".
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>>217477974
Netflix deliberately trained and fostered their audience to be like that.
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>>217478786
It's what I was saying and you're quoting me and trying to misattribute some meaning to it. Or are you really saying that two people in agreement on an imageboard is equivocal to art that already presupposes the audience's agreement to its themes? The sentiment of "Old good, new bad" isn't meant to be taken absolutely, but for the purposes of our current timeframe, it is locally accurate. Films have undoubtedly declined in quality. The audiences have expressed it, filmmakers and actors have expressed it, and the observable declining revenue of Hollywood implicitly expresses it.
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>>217477908
>46 years ago
Amadeus came out in 1984, retard
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>overrated mayo monkey trash that got glazed by uncs because it featured fellow mayo monkeys
stfu

last year had stuff like sinners, we are eating good
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>>217478928
Pretend he said 42 years ago you pedantic jackass
>>217478460
I genuinely can’t think of a song written after the mid 2000s that I would choose to listen to or even just not skip. Shit’s dire out there
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Ironically, the film is about the conflict between genius and mediocrity.
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>>217478362
>couldn’t even name one
You’re probably afraid someone is gonna call whatever gay movie you name shit and they’d most likely be right
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>>217477939
But they continuously throw away millions producing movies too progressive for people to want to watch
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>>217478462
>It got blown out of the water by Revenge of the Nerds and Hot Dog: the Movie
You're retarded. Movies aren't a competition with one another. All the studio cares about is "did it make us money".
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>>217477908
People used to value education and intelligence so they wanted to watch a movie about Mozart of all people. Now everyone is a bunch of idiots who value the fact that they don't know anything.
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>>217478950
>zoomie learns le epic racial slur
>today, i will use it to bait /tv/
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>>217479476
One of the biggest movies of the 2020s is about J. Robert Oppenheimer.
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A woke, revisionist Amadeus series was recently released using "colorblind casting." Asian Mozart's best bud is a gay black while his (European) wife falls for a different black. Paul Bettany and Will Sharpe are solid actors but the series was a disaster.
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>>217479687
Yea because it was co-marketed with one of the biggest slops of the decade, plus an overrated meme director did it
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>>217479168
If you can't remember the last good movie that came out, then you're either too uninterested in the subject to engage in this discussion or lack any charity. Spoonfeeding you would turn this into a pearls before swine situation.
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>>217479748
What good movies you fucking retard? Idk why you think it’s b8 to sincerely ask this, where are the good movies, you know like ones you can rewatch even potentially 30 years after it’s made
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>>217479877
You're not getting that feed. Not even if you oink for me.
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>>217478023
>The made lots of great movies before the 1980s.
The theatre was a place where you'd watch entertainment and the news. It did the work that TV would gradually take over in the 50's and 60's untill by the 70's, nearly every household in the US owned a television set of some sort.
But by todays standards, TV was still pretty fucking shit all through the 60s and 70s with maybe a handfull of worthwhile tv shows coming out every year. Most of the time, broadcasting ended at 11.

Then cable TV became a thing and then then internet rolled around and by 2010, internet was generally fast enough that you could stream TV in HD and that was the beginning of the decline of Hollywood.
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>>217479702
>Paul Bettany
i hate this faggot so much, jcon deserves better
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>>217477908
Amadeus is "just turn off your brain" entertainment. Americans just think it's a film for intellectuals. 6/10.
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>>217477939
Just call it what it is. Everybody pirating everything killed good movies.
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>>217479937
Exactly. Because there are none idiot
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>>217478119
Why would you come in here and just lie like that?
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>>217478296
This. The overlap of druggies and geeks used to be a thing
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>>217479702
The original Amadeus replaced Mozart with an Amerimutt. The original was revisionist by design.
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>>217477908
46 years ago? Black Swan made 330 million dollars in 2010. Low budget, original IP, and fair to say more cerebral than the average film. The sharp decline in cinema since the mid 2010s was insane to see. We went from original movies that had cultural impact like Avatar, The Hangover, Easy A, Magic Mike, Ted. These films weren't high art but come on. Aside from Squid Game there's been nothing with that impact.
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>>217480068
It was an American production you fucking faggot.
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>>217477939
there's no way this is the only reason. they can't negotiate licensing fees to streamers after the theatrical run that would be ball park dvd sales?
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>>217480026
>Everybody pirating everything killed good movies.
nigga, pirating didnt make a dent in sales.
Didnt in the 80's, didnt in the 90's, didnt in the 2000s. It was some bogeyman conjured up by the industry that was losing marked share to tv, internet and video games. And then they shot themselves in the foot by increasing ticket prices and making going to the theatre an fucking ordeal like going to an airport.

Despite what gen x'ers and millenials claim, movie torrenting wasnt all that widespread in the 00's and the quality on 700mb rips (the size of a CD-R) was less than DVD quality and took a whole day or two to download. Music was more widespread but the quality was often really shitty and songs and whole albums were often mislabelled or entirely different bands/artist than you wanted.

I dont think people born after 2000s understand the casual nature of the movie going experience before the 2000s.
It was something you just did on a weekend when you had nothing else going on. Just walked down, picked a movie, paid a dollar in the door, maybe bought some snacks and just watched a movie. And if it was shit you just walked out. You didnt stay because you paid 12 dollars and felt invested. If it sucked or you didnt like it you just walked out and did something else or watched something else. It was that casual.
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>>217480183
hurr durr really? Point stands dumbo
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>>217480156
>We went from original movies that had cultural impact like Avatar
At least try to be more subtle next time with your bait
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>>217480248
>hurr durr really? Point stands dumbo
American productions tend to be in ENGLISH and they need American or Brit actors. Did you expect the studio to find some German actor that spoke perfect english?
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>>217480333
7/10 made me respond
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>>217480156
KPop Demon Hunters is one of the biggest movies ever.
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>>217480026
Funny how everyone was pirating stuff all through 1999 to 2009 with nary a change in how Hollywood did business. It's only when Netflix came around in 2009 and killed dvd sales and killed Blockbuster and started the "straight to streaming" trend that we wound up in our current predicament.
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>>217480425
Yea and BTS are one of the biggest music groups ever as well. Thing is, nobody actually gives a shit
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>>217480300
Like every film for two years after it came out had a 3D version
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>>217480156
People are still talking about shit like Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul. Stranger Things has been talked about everywhere for the last couple of weeks (again). Barbenheimer was huge. Dune has the Lisan al-Gaib meme. Pitt's F1 and Cruise's Top Gun sequel did huge numbers. John Wick is a well-known character. Etc. There's plenty. You're just not tapped in.
>>217480475
You're wrong. It's mostly kids.
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>>217480545
>Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul
2000s product
>stranger things
Typical astroturfed netflix slop with no actual impact
>barbenheimer
Overhyped, massive marketing stunt, no one cares about them anymore
>dune
Nobody cares about these boring movies anymore aside from one astroturfed meme
>pitt movie
Made absolutely no noise
>top gun sequel
Good but nobody cares anymore
>john wick
I’ll give you that even though the movies are absolute trash action slop, it has actual impact
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>>217479702
why do they have to do this
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>>217480655
Anon, you're the architect of all your pain, and if you push me, I will start making fun of that fact.
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>>217480156
>The sharp decline in cinema since the mid 2010s was insane to see
it was hard to watch and impossible to comprehend to me
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>>217480730
>impossible to comprehend to me
Because it's not real.
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>>217478306
>>217479431
It made most of their money back after being nominated and being awarded best movie. And even with that boost, it failed to crack into the top 25 box office of 1985. Fucking Breakfast club (arguably more a low brow movie) made 10 millions more than it.
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>>217480728
Nothing you can say or do will affect anyone let alone me
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These threads always shy away from naming the old = good. If the same lack of charity that new releases are condemned with were to be applied to older ones, there suddenly would be almost no good movies left.
>but what about Amadeus?
1) outlier
2) why not take Tár as a fitting current-day counterpart, and it's even again
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>>217478166
>and movies are struggling to compete against social media and video games
More like 3rd spaces lost their relevance against the house. Modern houses have accest to amenities and entertaiment that render obsolete the idea of going out to the movies.
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>>217480793
Sure thing, boyo.
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>>217480923
That as well. Sort of included in destruction of ethnic homogeneity.
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>>217480545
Stranger Things and John Wick first came out in the late 2010s. Barbenheimer was astroturfed. I guess I can give you Better Call Saul even tho the character was created in 2008 and the first season came out in the late 2010s. The rest are duds.



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