>>217763999
And so much better for that reason.

>>217763999
Trips of truth

>>217763999
Out of all the characters after the series finale ...Phoebe would lose touch with the rest of the crew.

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>>217763999
How would you have fixed this show ?

>>217764175
Instead of Joey moving to LA, he moves in with his seven slutty sisters

>>217764175
give him a less charming but lovable sarcastic roommate, a pretentious but straight guy friend, and three other females with different personalities and have them all hang out together

>>217764175
no scenes with him at home unless its to show him getting ready for the day. the show is him out in la working acting jobs. meeting new characters each week because of his new acting gig

no sitcom is warm. the closest thing to warm they got to was designing women.

>>217764212
I was going to post basically the same thing. Just have Joey having to deal with his huge wacky Italian family.

>>217763999
Was Joey a good actor in universe ?

>>217763999
Was Friends among the first wave of parasocial media?

>>217764475
parasocial in what way?

>>217763999
Friends is for goys and Seinfeld is for non goys, although a popular commentator once called Seinfeld jewish humor for goys so I guess theres a bit of debate about the goyish qualities of Seinfeld

>>217764475
Was Werther?

Is this show still worth watching as a new viewer?

>>217764524
If you like sitcoms

Seinfeld: sneering, smarmy and sarcastic. Yes, exactly.

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>>217763999
>Unpretentious, sincere

>>217764175
Surround him with dorks like he was in Friends

>>217764629
How else do you prove your superiority to others if not by making fun of them, or by making faces at them behind their backs?

>>217764489
People devoting time and attention to on-screen personalities pretending to be friends, as a substitute for developing their own IRL friendships.

>>217764648
If all non-Joey characters were dorks, what was he? A dweeb?

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>>217764761
Don't see how Friends is unique to any other long running media properties that appeared before it with established characters. You could argue the same for lots of older tv shows or even comic book characters.

The funniest thing that came of Friends is this SNL impression of Rachel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bWRjajx-LE

Seinfeld male characters: chads despite looks and neuroses

Friends male characters: beta simps despite good looks, also neurotic

Friends = show for women
Seinfeld = show for men

It's manifest. Undeniable.

>>217764936
That was just awful

>>217764175
he becomes broke and has to eat cold meals

>>217764936
SNL is a shitpile now but this is actually really good by comparison

>>217763999
>multiple people in that picture are now dead

>>217764779
? He was the cool guy

>>217765019
This is actually correct. Friends is just such a girl show. And in Seinfeld you definitely view it from a male lens.

>>217765019
>dripping in jew bullshit
Unwatchable

>>217765139
Lmao dont get so triggered timmy

The show has multiple Jewish actors, yet they still say they aren't included in one of the biggest shows ever or it's not diverse? Doublethink bs

https://www.thewrap.com/jewish-inclusion-academy-open-letter-julianna-marguiles-david-schwimmer/

>>217765139
im not antisemitic but your point applies equally to both shows. in fact, one of the two Friends creators is gay AND Jewish

>>217765086
But they all made fun of him as stupid

>>217765327
Yeah he was the cool sex haver meathead. Uber normie

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>>217763999
Seinfeld:
>unfunny Jew
>funny Jew
>funny jewess
>funny KKKramer
Friends
>Unfunny Jew
>Le dumb handsome guy
>funny drug addict
>2 unfunny hot women
>le quirky phoebe
It’s a draw imo

>>217765273
>gay jews create the best, world-famous american entertainment
how did that happen?
better question: why didn't devout christians take over the world with their entertainment? the answer to that might be the same as the reason that devout muslim entertainment does not play in devout hindu territories.

>>217764175
replace ross with seinfeld
>>217763999
not with ross
he's like a dogshit in the middle of a beautifully set table
sure everything is nice but i still won't touch it because THERE IS A FUCKING SHIT OF THE DOG IN THE MIDDLE OF IT

Ross was top-tier

>>217764779
He was a normal guy

>>217764889
I’m 25
what the fuck

>>217764524
I've been told by younger people the show is still funny (but it's odd how no-one is always looking at their phone)

>>217765396
Ross fucking sucked and his whiny ass was always the worst part of the show. Only good in Band of brothers.

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how is this even possible?

>>217764742
What superiority? What you going on about my dude?

>>217765411
Normal guys are not usually the butts of jokes.

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>>217765426
Based dead drug addict

>>217765426
That's roughly 16 years of daily meetings

>>217765426
the alcoholism was strong with that one

>>217764889
>all 3 women hit the wall after S3
Weird

>>217765438
Jokes from dorks don't really count

>>217763999
Friends: a show about srupid people, for stupid people

>>217763999
>anti-the-best-sitcom-ever
is this supposed to make me want to watch it?

>>217765419
You know how they would routinely have Rachel and Monica braless, with nipples visibly protruding from their clothes? They did similar fan service with Ross, when you could clearly see the outline of his balls.

Friends: a show about stupid people, for stupid people

>>217764889
if they chose women 5-10 years younger they would have made like 100000x more money
but they chose to make it a show for hags, fags, and losers

>>217765465
they hit the wall about a decade before the show began bro
which is quite ironic because that's the period the show was supposed to revolve around, the period of life searching and transitions and evolution and whatnot
instead we got a bunch of roasties and burned out hags
in this respect even Seinfeld is better as it doesn't pretend to be what it's not

>>217763999
Manhattanfags try so hard to live this lifestyle. It's totally inauthentic. Brooklyn is the best borough and it's not even close.

>>217763999
GET YOUR SHOES OFF THE COUCH AHHH

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Growing up I was always told that there are two types of people in this world: those with a good heart and no sense of humor who likes Friends, and those without a heart but with a sense of humor who likes Seinfeld

>>217765572
i like friends but enjoy seinfeld
that being said i could optimize both if u got a billion dollars to give me
>show about nothing? please, you're way too invested for that.. not every episode is kramer trying to save his frogger high scores... yet...
>show about friends? nigger this is the dale carnegie bait-and-switch where he gives one palpable example in the first 15 pages and then beats his dick for the rest

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>>217763999
Get your feet off the couch Chandler you rude white boy I'm glad this faggot is dead

>>217764890
Yeah that's why I said the first wave of parasocial media.

>>217766071
>parasocial media wasn't a thing until the 90s
It's always been a thing. Why do you think soap operas were so popular?

>>217766071
first wave of parasocial media were marx & lenin & stalin nigga
it's paganism 101 nigga, the moment in which pagans deviated from exclusive cannibalistic homosexuality and branched out to necromancy

>>217763999
Friends was made for mentally challenged people, it's fucking retarded and pretentious crap.
fuck friends anf fuck anybody that likes it, you gotta be a retard to like that shit.

>>217764742
>trying to be serious being here
you are a fucking retard

>>217764175
they were trying to do it like Frasier:Cheers right
I've heard people say it was better than expected but it just didn't catch on

Why is Jerry Seinfeld’s acting so awful

>>217765419
Schwimmer being in Friends ruined him in BoB. Like why the fuck is Ross here.

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Seinfeld has way too many plotholes.

>>217764761
You may be right but it was quickly and thoroughly supplanted by the US Office. Even today having a personality is pretty much entirely replaced by just talking about the office/michael scott for many people.

Reminder that anyone who pretends to like the annoying bitch known as phoebe is retarded

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>>217769311
delete this

>>217763999
I've always loved both shows. Easily the best two sitcoms. Seinfeld is a lot funnier, but Friends has a more complete package and is a better show overall.

>>217763999
All sitcoms were sappy and full of "aww" moments and lame lessons at the time, that's why people liked Seinfeld.

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For me, it's Living Single

>>217764889
Season 1 Phoebe was a smokeshow.

What would Friends in 2026 look like?

>>217764175
Have Kramer from Seinfeld show up and be a regular supporting cast member

>>217764175
Don't put a baby in.
A golden rule of sitcoms is that they turn to shit as soon as one of the characters gets a kid.

>>217763999
The propaganda in Friends is subtle.
Rachel, "white girl", is continually rewarded and encouraged to be a whore and sleep around. Even incidents in her life which should force her to settle down, such as getting pregnant by her long time off-and-on boyfriend, she doesn't, and she is rewarded by the narrative for going against them.
Monica, on the other hand, is punished for wanting to settle down and have kids. She has a stable, non-dramatic, relationship with Chandler, and is punished by the narrative for wanting to actively choose to have children while she is in a stable marriage. She has to adopt.
This situation is all over western television for women, if a couple makes the informed and good choice to get married, have children, they will be punished with infertility. It happens in Sex and the City (Charlotte, the only non-whore), Dharma and Greg, a lot of character on Grey's Anatomy and Pretty Little Liars apparently. The ideological goal is to punish women for wanting to set marriage and child goals in their life.

>>217764175
Have Adriana and Jennifer Coolidge be topless for all their scenes

>>217769902
Big Bang Theory but all the main characters are Sheldon

>>217764499
I heard the girl from Red Scare describe Seinfeld as jewish humor for goyim, and I've never heard a more apt decription. I know several non-jews who love Seinfeld.

>>217765139
I couldn't understand why I disliked Seinfeld as a kid, but then I grew up and learned about jews and the way they act and it clicked.

>>217765465
No they didn't what the fuck. Phoebe hit the wall after the first season, Monica just got better and Rachel pretty much stayed the same.

>>217763999
Do Zoomers watch this?

>>217765572
There are those with a foreskin who enjoy Friends and those without a foreskin who enjoy Seinfeld.

>>217764475
SNL and talk shows, not to mention talk radio

>>217763999
So true. It was always the weirdo kids that liked Seinfeld.

>>217763999
alright I like Friends too but it doesn't deserve a general up every hour, make a 90s sitcoms general so you can put Frasier and stuff in there too

Post Jerry vocaroos.

>>217763999
>anti-seinfeld
Seinfeld still holds up today, you have to have lived through the 90s to enjoy, let alone understand, friends. You are correct.

If you rewatch it today it feels very unnatural when chandler roast anyone and everyone just smiles, guy would be roasting him back and girls would claw his eyes out irl

>>217765540
>they hit the wall about a decade before the show began
so...when they were teenagers???

>>217769902
ros get ipad

>>217763999
>fake, weird, hollow, artificial, makes jews seem like normal people

In this sense it is the anti Seinfeld, in that it is ironically far more dishonest and manipulative of a television program. One think you can’t accuse Seinfeld of is being disingenuous or inaccurate to its source material.

>>217770029
>Charlotte, the only non-whore
Charlotte is a huge whore, and she's worse than the rest because she pretends to be more traditional while sleeping around.

>>217764889
Ross aged the best because he just looked like the same goofy strange retard the entire time

>>217771973
Are you blind? Do you really believe that Rachel and Monica's faces are as attractive at 35/40 as they were at 25/30? Monica's hairstyle is much nicer at the end, but other than that she was prettier when younger.

>>217763999
What a dogshit show

>>217763999
Overrated show for women. Sitcoms in general stink. Anniston is a hottie tho.

>>217764465
iirc he had really good memory for lines and was humble enough to keep learning from every better actor he met throughout the show. Every scene in-universe he seemed OK enough for the kind of corny Days of our Lives shit he does but definitely the kind of a actor who will be stuck on the TV soap circuit forever.

>>217764524
I've seen teens watching it so I don't think the generational gap is too big despite dated references and guest stars. The first season is quite different from the rest though so just watching the first few episodes won't tell you if you'll enjoy the other seasons.
>>217771857
>several
Seinfeld is only the most popular sitcom of the 90s, the only way you'd only know a few non-jew Seinfeld enjoyers is if your friend group is mainly composed of jews

>>217764889
I love the warmer tones of season one, Phoebe's hair and general fashion sense is her best as well.

>>217763999
Makes sense, it's a shallow "muh heartwarming moments" snoozefest like 99% of ancient pre-90s boomer garbage, complete with Big Bang Theory type quips and zingers.

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Actually funny unlike most other sitcoms.

>>217774050
This.

Honestly I think after Seinfeld everyone should have just given up. My wife will put on some retarded shit to have background noise or whatever like Will and Grace with that faggot, the Nanny, Friends, all this SHIT, and all of it sucked dick. I don’t crack a smile for multiple episodes of these shows if ever. I can spin a wheel to pick a random episode of Seinfeld and know I will actually laugh out loud probably 4-5 times minimum if not more. If all these shows are going to be filled with kikes they at least need to make it funny. I don’t do fake jew emotion and only women and faggots could possibly be compelled by that.

>>217764175
First episode
Matt LeBlanc has to audition for Joey
He doesn't get the part
The rest of episode is him coming to grips with this
Wakes up at the end of episode as Joey.

>>217765366
i grew up in a christian household, the kind where my parents got me the Picture Bible comic set as a treat it was good though. Most christian aimed entertainment is dogshit and can't appeal to the masses if they're not already into christian shit, even most christians avoid consuming it.

>>217765501
kek second time's the charm i guess

>>217765366
Christianity is about living in the real world

Judaism is about putting the goyim in a psychological mind box

There is plenty of world class Christian entertainment in the since of theater, plays, orchestras, etc, but everything in goyslop world is created to put goyim in a mind prison and specifically to isolate them from Christianity, so of course the kind of modern entertainment that thrives is not going to be Christian.

>>217774013
>Seinfeld is only the most popular sitcom of the 90s
Only in Jewish shitholes. In the civilized world Friends, Frasier and even Big Bang Theory get constant reruns while no one has ever given a shit about Kikefeld.

>>217773890
nta, but hitting the wall is a gross, disgusting overexaggeration if you're looking at any of the pictures there. You're a deluded moron if you think otherwise, hitting the wall means the woman is unfuckably old-looking not just that she passed her peak physical form.

>>217774176
Alright, I see you live in a fantasy world, carry on anon. Kek, to bring up Frasier of all things like it matters to anyone outside this board, or even in this board for that matter.

>>217774230
Several channels in my country are airing Frasier reruns today like they've constantly done since it first aired. No channel is showing Seinfeld because no one has ever given a shit about that Jewish slop.

>>217765550
Whoa, crazy, I had no idea Astoria was in Brooklyn. jk but really fuck your gay borough

>>217774176
>trolling is a art
Big bang theory didnt even air til like 2010

>>217774299
>in my country

And we all know that’s an irrelevant one when you see this phrase kek

>>217774340
It's the same in all countries where people have foreskins.

>>217763999
Yeah it's sincerely, sincerely not funny
It's not a warm, wholesome sitcom, it's just diet Seinfeld with worse jokes

>>217774299
>in my country
I'm sorry but including this in your post on this board makes it bait no matter how honest the rest of it is. It's alright, you'll remember this next time. Where Iive, the only place that matters in the world, Seinfeld still has re-runs for whoever is still braindead enough to flip through normal TV. But anyways, measuring cultural impact and legacy in re-runs has to be the lowest IQ take on it I've heard yet.

>>217764761
That didn't happen during it's initial run though, that phenomena only came to prominence with the rise of the internet and a culture of watching the same shows on repeat, forever. People wouldn't devote their lives to a show like the Office if a streaming service didn't make it easy to keep on in the background, and if online spaces didn't keep it in the zeitgeist by constantly talking about it

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>>217763999
>the anti-Seinfeld.

And, just like Seinfeld, it's a show about a bunch of jews.

Friends
>will they won’t they??
>Omg these two characters are romantically involved now!
>omg they broke up!
>oh my gosh these characters broke up but they still care about each other as friends! My neovagina is dilating!
>omg the way the one friend cucked the other friend and then they had a heartfelt talk afterward that’s like so real when I did that to Billy Beta!

Seinfeld
>Jerry I’m your dentist I just converted to Judaism. anyway the Holocaust was epic lol

>>217763999
Trips of untruth. Seinfeld fucking MOGS Friends. Friends was the most safe, boring, inoffensive and bland garbage I ever had the displeasure of momentarily watching. Kill yourself, you FUCKING FAGGOT.

I can think of 10 better contemporary sitcoms than Friends, it's not even in the top 10 for its time.

Seinfeld
Scrubs
That 70's Show
Frasier
3rd Rock from the Sun
Everybody Loves Raymond
Fresh Prince of Bel Air
Home Improvement
King of Queens
Malcolm in the Middle
Married with Children
Mad About You
Curb Your Enthusiasm (yes I'm counting it, it started airing when Friends was still on air)

>>217774483
>>217774626
I really liked when Seinfeld occasionally used weird camera angles and sort of jarring awkward shots in general. Pretty rare for sitcoms of the time or even in general. Like when George gets flustered/aroused by Elaine and it cuts to a super close up shot of him leaning out the window and heavily breathing kek

>>217774809
Friends was by-the-numbers trash. Seinfeld actually elevated situational comedy into an art. People say Friends is supposed to be watched for comfort, but watching Friends has never been comfy for me. For me, the REAL comfy sitcoms are Seinfeld, Keeping Up Appearances, Golden Age Simpsons and Everybody Loves Raymond.

Funniest sitcom setup ever is George dating a girl who seems to be completely unattracted and refuses to get undressed in front of him and they’re all coping about how maybe she’s just shy, then they go to a vacation home and as soon as George is gone his gf just starts walking around topless in front of everyone else kek

>>217763999
Women watched friends, Men watched Seinfeld

>>217774198
I agree that none of them hit the wall within the course of the show. All three are still beautiful, at least with TV makeup, in the last season. But saying that any of the women are prettier in the last season than in the first is pure delusion.

>>217763999
No that's cheers
Friends just sucks, big bang theory of its day

>>217774969
>Everybody Loves Raymond
I love this show but it's harder and harder to get past how much of a cunt Debra is, especially in the later seasons.

>>217775176
That’s the shrinkage episode as well right? Probably the best sitcom episode of all time. What Seinfeld understood and where shows like Friends failed is that a sitcom should be relatable in a way that makes you remember and laugh at your own common life experiences by highlighting how absurd they are when you really think about them. It shouldn’t be a parasocial experiment where your life gets replaced by the lives of the fake people on screen.

>>217775176
>jerrys gf walks in on George changing and sees his shrunken dick
>laughs at it
>George gets super neurotic thinking she’s going to tell his gf
>ahh don’t worry about it that won’t happen
>she does exactly that but tries to blow it off and pretend women don’t care
>immediate cut to George’s gf trying to leave him ASAP

Very redpilled moment

>>217763999
>Unpretentious, sincere, warm, the anti-Seinfeld.
Peak midwittery. Seinfeld is in no way pretentious and it hits more nostalgia for me because it's actually a realistic depiction of the time period. Also, the interactions between the characters (not the characters themselves) are much more sincere than Friends which consists of nothing but cliches that only 90 IQ foids might find amusing.

>>217777040
In what way is Seinfeld pretentious? I could see you saying that about Frasier, but Seinfeld revolves around banal situations and Larry David's neuroticisms.

>>217763999
Hating friends isn’t a personality

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>Friends
>unpretentious

>>217777087
I'm retarded, disregard.

>>217775695
I'm taking a close look at the pic and it seems the drop-off was around season 5 for most, I agree with your last statement, although some women like some men look better older, usually the ones with an odd look for their 20s.
It's crazy how similar Ross looks in every season though, same-ish weight, face even hair thickness where Joey and particularly Chandler vary with time.

>>217777859
I'm guessing it's the drug abuse that made Chandler age so poorly

>>217763999
Seinfeld is beloved by pedophiles. I hate Seinfeld.

>>217765153
Keep seething because people rightfully hate Seinfeld, lmao

>>217778879
according ot an excerpt of his book that some anon posted a while ago, booze is fat and coke is skinny

>>217764175
Remove Jennifer Coolidge, that's literally it. She ruins everything she's in.

>>217769989
there was a baby in the show?

>>217769989
Friends added a baby in season 2 iirc and it became one of the most successful sitcoms in history you're an idiot.

>>217779638
Yeah but none of the main characters lived with the baby

>>217774671
Seinfeld?
Mad about you?
Ew

I loved 3rd rock and prince of bel-air though.

>>217774120
Best reply

>>217764175
>How would you have fixed this show ?
Call it "Jerry" and have it star Jerry Seinfeld

>>217763999
Friends is for women, OP.

>>217780093
He's the weakest link in his own damned show and was never at any point funny or entertaining on his own.
Everyone around him had to pick up the slack.

>>217765419
>Ross fucking sucked and his whiny ass was always the worst part of the show. Only good in Band of brothers.
He's awesome in Breast Men
All of the things that are normally so unlikeable about him are perfect for the character

>>217780142
He’s a shit actor but his deadpan/shit acting in the show works in portraying him as a snarky jewish smug fuck who is constantly surrounded by absurd freaks and thereby is one himself without being self aware enough to realize it

>>217780623
He also wrote the damn show. People give Larry all the credit, but they did it together. The fact that he was constantly breaking made the show that much better. You're telling me that if you had a neighbor like Kramer, you wouldn't be smiling at the insane stupid shit he was constantly doing? It's moments like that that made the show the opposite of pretentious. It didn't take itself seriously at all.

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>>217774671
>Mad About You

>>217763999
It's amazing how Jewish 'feld feels once you start noticing. I can't watch it anymore. It's THEIR show, it's not for me

>>217764889
>everyone loses the spark in their eye and starts looking fake and dead inside
I hate passage of time, I hate growing old

>>217780142
You don't understand the concept of a straight man in comedy?