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Why did they decide to make season finale "Nothing happens: the episode"?
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More important question, why are you watching this shit?
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>>217773517
Because I like Fallout.
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>>217773541
no you don't otherwise you wouldn't watch it
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when next season
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>>217773541
If that were true, you wouldn't be watching this trash
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>>217773499
does kyle has a contract clause of no blowing his head off? cause what a lame ending for hank
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>>217773914
maybe he'll appear again
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>>217774048
>i was prentending to be retarded plotwist.jpg
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>>217773499
It was basically setups for the next season episode
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>>217773914
Yeah that just wouldn’t look right. It’s messed up when you know the actor.
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>>217773499
Setting up the third major conflict of new Vegas. They've spent an entire season introducing the major players and moving them into positions, I'd love to think the next season is an action packed bloodbath with the bos arriving with liberty prime for more chaos. Doubt that'll happen though, they've seen with better calls Saul and pluribus you can get away with this drawn out crap, I expect to see liberty prime in S3 final episode if we're lucky, bear in mind they'll sidetrack us with introducing the super mutant slowly, intermittently through S3.
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>>217773499
>Kings building shown again
>door destroyed
>is just abandoned
>no Human Kings coming outside and helping the fight
Gay as fuck. Fuck off Todd.
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Pandering to /v/tards is the easiest thing. The producers could paint the word “Fallout” on a wall and /v/ would watch it dry for an hour just because it’s tangentially related to Todd Howard
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Why did they allude to the courier doing a Yes Man only to reset the 3 factions?
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>>217774775
So these are the people complaining about BCS and Plurb.
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>>217773499
Why shouldn't the final episode be like the rest of the season?
Such shows aren't made to entertain you, their only purpose is to keep subscribers.
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>>217774904
I'll take any mouth-breathing Fallout enjoyer over ten Pluribus fans. You faggots should all die in a fire desu
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>>217774904
With BCS I felt it a bit jarring compared to BB. Pluribus I knew what I was getting into so that aspect doesn't bother me.
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Home alone has no depth and ruins every legion scene
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>>217773499
>"Nothing happens: the season"
ftfy
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>>217775086
The way it was written it had no depth anyway, might as well be funny
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>>217774875
why did they reset the factions? why did they transplant the fallout 4 "you could be a synth! no you're the synth!!" retardation, the worst part of that game's main quest, to the western wasteland with the mind control chips? why are they bringing liberty prime to the west?
you know the answer
Todd hates New Vegas and did a whitewash of that whole game so he can make his own pet playground overwrite with all his favorite plot points

>>217775086
he just acted like a tubby nerd cosplaying the whole time
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>>217773541
What does this show have to do with fallout?
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>>217773499
What the Fallout show should have been
>anthology series about different side characters referenced in the games (not the bethesda ones)
>made by white people who have deep reverence for the games
>first season could be about randall clark, second season about father elijah, third about caesar and the origin of the legion, etc etc
>doesn't actually interact with the plot of new vegas in any way, every story is set before 2281
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>>217773914
I'm pretty sure he didn't want to blow his brains out in front of his daughter who he loved.
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>>217773499
You only need to make one good season of anything, anything good after that is just getting in the way of your streaming services next big show's first season.
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>>217775398
>he just acted like a tubby nerd cosplaying the whole time
I think the writers probably intended that as they think the Legion are just silly Roman LARPers, despite the fact the game itself shows that they’re a competent force to be reckoned with.

With the season as a whole, I said this on another thread but they could have cut down this season to four episodes and then still have a second half to the season where shit actually happens.
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>>217774775
I guarantee there will be some fighting but the third season will be more set up and get excited for 4th season where that giant robot actually doess something.
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>>217773791
More offs with no setup and more setups that will never have payoffs
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>>217773499
Well after nothing happens: the season they couldn't exactly have something happen in the finale. What are you, stupid?
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>me when I stupidly thought anything in this fucking show was going to be good besides the sets and whatnot.
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This is slowly turning into a mystery box show
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>>217773517
I have to see how the train wreck plays out
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I’m like a zoomer girl watching Netflix on her phone with this show
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>>217773499
You
Just
Know
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>>217777908
https://ew.com/matt-damon-says-netflix-wants-plot-repeated-in-dialogue-for-viewers-on-phones-11887857
kek that is why they constantly do those zoomer cuts from scene to scene in fallout because half the audience tunes the fuck out instantly.
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show in general:
>endless prewar scenes as filler
>dumb overly goofy dialogue and characters (e.g. about to die? better throw in some edgy millenial humor cuz that's totally what a person would say!)
>retcons pretty much all major established lore (we ain't talkin a minor inconsequential detail here)
>follows the snail pace storytelling trend where barely anything happens in each episode

S2 finale:
>after spending entire S2 telling us the NCR is gone they magically show up in force marching like medieval troops?
>the legion's civil war conveniently concludes & Caesar McCulkin just immediately orders the legion remnants to take New Vegas? no resting or regrouping, no sending messages to other legion forces that a new Caesar has emerged, etc.
>House ends up being a nothingburger who's only role is to open a few doors for the ghoul
>Ghoul finds out his family's cryopods are empty - automatically assumes they're alive when he has no idea when the pods were opened (which could have been at any point during the last 200 years)
>Ghoul does not ask nor does House search the records for the pods to find out when they were opened
>Hank McClane's arc concludes in a boring way and he doesn't even tell Lucy about what he's really doing or why (you'd think he'd tell his own daughter what was going on, but nah just some cryptic bullshit for no reason to set up S3)
>Oh my god guys the Enclave is le SUPER evil villains pulling all the strings!!!
>BoS guy is building liberty prime alpha holy shiitt guys woooahh!!

I won't bother mentioning the Negro or other side characters like dorky Vault Guy or evil White Woman or anything because they're gay and cringe.

The Enclave being the big bads is probably the worst thing they could have went with lorewise because they were totally destroyed in Fallout 2 & 3. Bringing them back yet again is just a, "wow, really?" moment for fans that have enjoyed the previous games.
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>ITS GONNA BE A CAESARS PALACE
>GET IT?
>DO YOU GET THE JOKE?
>PLEASE LAUGH WE ARE VERY SMART!
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>>217777952
>>House ends up being a nothingburger who's only role is to open a few doors for the ghoul

That really was the worst part.
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>>217773499
Television is now a place where nothing happens.
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>>217778052
...he's going to be the reason the nog and brown toad lucy head towards the ghoul in colorado to norad where the enclave are.
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>>217773541
Liar. Anyone who likes Fallout isn't watching this shit.
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>>217773499
>Nothing happens
It's pretty obvious where the plot goes from here, if you have a single working brain cell...
All the wastelanders are going to be turned into mindwiped slaves for the vault elite, the vaulties are going to be turned into super-mutants to suppress the various wasteland factions, and now googly eyed girl and Goggins Ghoul are going to have to unite them all into a united front to FIGHT BACK
Googly's dad dropped more than enough hints.
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>>217778083
>there are people who think fallout games happened after tactics
crazy shit I know.
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People who have watched Game of Thrones (I haven’t), are they kind of turning this show into another GoT with all the factions and lead characters or no? Again never watched that.
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>>217778117
As a zoomer who didn’t pick up fallout till after the Bethesda games, I now know how the oldfags felt when FO3 came out.
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>>217778232
I was really happy at first when it was coming out despite the issues that were cropping up even before release. Tactics while different in layout, was a Fallout game. 3? No. Nah. Nv is a joke. 4 is at least a little closer in some places and is a fine base for mods for a post apocalypse game but nothing after Tactics "got it" in any way.
My dumbass was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the show but these 2 seasons are bad even for bethesda.
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>>217778115
Having speculation for the future isn't substitute for something happening in the finale
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>>217778115
>the vaulties are going to be turned into super-mutants
Really? That's really the prediction you arrived to, after boasting a brain cell (1)
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>>217773541
Liking fallout is why I skipped this show
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>>217778904
uhh, that anon may be a retard but it does seem like somehow the trio of vaults are at least partially to have prime normals ready for dipping. You have to suspend reality with those vaults as at least one of the entrances is publicly visible and right by the ocean in an area that was heavily picked over in fallout 1 and 2 and lived in nearby. You have to suspend the reality of Fallout a lot with this show and bethesda's fallout or you will want to stab your eyes out.
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>>217777952
Sigh...somehow, the Enclave has returned...again.....again.
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>>217779254
It's funny because they did basically everything the faction was good for in Fallout 2 already, but for some reason Todd and some of the more smoothbrain fans really yearn for the faction
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>>217778693
tactics with real time combat on is my favorite fallout game
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>>217777952
Last episode of season 3 will show that the Enclave was manipulated by USSR agents or whatnot. After that it's going to be China. Next the aliens. If this shitshow will even last that long.
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>>217773499
Just let me know if frog face gets bareass
(And also if ghoul guy hangs dong)
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>>217776133
That sounds really bad, anon. The show should have been set in Miami or something where Bethesda could do whatever they wanted without having to majorly retcon/insult the original Fallouts/New Vegas.
A rollercoaster ride TV show set somewhere that the franchise hasn't touched before would have earned Bethesda much more good will, even if the writing was equally as retarded.
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>>217773541
which kind of Fallout do you like?
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>>217779456
I prefer the turn but I really liked the toggle and the multiplayer and was hoping that was the future for the series. Maybe Coop stuff or something. Not 3.
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>>217780100
It would be really hard for the writers to make it watchable without memberberries, since they didn't do a good job with them either.
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>>217780100
>That sounds really bad, anon
No elaboration.
>muh Miami
Save that for the games, faggot.
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>>217773541
I like Fallout also, that's exactly why I don't watch this trash
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>>217780394
>No elaboration.
A TV show about Randall Clark and Elijah is retarded because we experience their stories in-game. Only an NPC goychattle would need to experience their stories in live action because they lack imagination and need Mr Goldberg to do it for them. The all white people isn't a realistic point, sadly, and if the show wouldn't need to have anything to do with New Vegas at all because we've already played New Vegas and experienced its characters in the medium it was meant to be delivered.
The show could only work if it was completely seperate from all the games and did its own thing.
>>217780332
Just have the East Coast Brother of Steel or something. Normies only recognise the power armour. I can't imagine anyone who unironically enjoys this show knows what Shady Sands isor who the Kings are outside of some very surface level knowledge. Normies only (think they) know the B.o.S.
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>>217773778
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>>217778942
Wait until you turn old enough to understand how little this shit means. There's old fans and new fans watching the show, who gives a flying fuck?
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>>217780636
>The all white people isn't a realistic point, sadly
No show suggestion is realistic, it's called an ideal, a dream for a reason.
>Yeah I don't want to see a live action Sunburst or see Caesar and Joshua conquering the first tribes
Just preference and not actually an explanation on how the concept is bad.
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>>217780703
Why are you mass replying to mass replies? They just had a neuron activation seeing how the post was formatted and thought they were the first one to make the witty joke
Of course everyone who's into shit like NV will watch the show just to see what the canon is going to be going forward even if it's shit. The posturing is meaningless
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>>217780786
>want to see a live action Sunburst or see Caesar and Joshua conquering the first tribes
Must suck to lack an imagination, huh?
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>>217780786
He explained it's bad because it's just rehashing old stories. What kind of "explanation" would you accept not being just a preference by the way? Because I don't think you'll be able to come up with some analytical way to argue about that either way
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>>217780703
Not a valid reply to my post.
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>>217780812
Even at 1 there the imagined apple pales in comparison to an actual apple. But per your logic there would be zero reason for anyone to ever save photos of loved ones because of le imagination. Kill yourself kike.
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A few questions

>Hank implies that the congresswoman was chosen because she has an ISTP personality type

I'm an ISTP and I'm not really liked by any of my coworkers, I don't get it

>Colorado
So Ghoul is going to the Big MT? or Legion territory? Either way his family is super dead now/

>Liberty Prime (West Coast Edition)
Eww!

>Enclave has done nothing for 2 whole seasons now but people are still supposed to be scared of them

What the heck?

>Ghoul being mean to House and not helping him with the Enclave side quest

He could have at least put the Pip-Boy away. Pretty rude of him.
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>>217780924
>t. a solid 5 on the chart
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>>217773499
Why are you watching this, you fucking faggot?
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>>217780924
And by your logic there isn't any reason for paintings to exist because they would always pale to a photograph
You're so fucking stupid btw
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>>217776133
That sounds boring as fuck, don’t quit your day job
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>>217778206
Kind’ve?
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>>217777952
where does Quintus intend to get the resources from to build another Liberty Prime? why didn't he care that the Enclave were still around after establishing that Cold Fusion was being carried by an Enclave scientist?
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why did the NCR come to the strip at the exact moment they needed to. precisely timing when a level 1 metal scaffolding would be destroyed and only when it was destroyed unintentionally and only when their "power armor" was destroyed.

never have i seen such a deux ex machina contrivance. then the episode keeps going...holy fucking garbage
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>>217776133
Here is my idea for a fallout series

>10 years after new vegas
>Mr house ending canon
>NCR is still around but without hoover dam their expansion has grounded to a halt
>Legion decaying but has mitigated crumbling completely by expanding into other frontiers for resources
>Securitrons are no longer a reliable workhorse for house. Spare parts running out, many lost in border conflicts
>House also fears there exists a wasteland faction advanced enough to find an exploit in the securitrons to shut them off remotely
>To offset this possibility, house intends to create his own human military using locals but also anyone beyond his new vegas border that could be useful
>House assembles a team of doctors, negotiators, and mercenaries (maybe former legion and NCR for fun banter) to contact promising settlements for recruitment
>the secondary purpose of this team to to see if he can tease out a faction advanced enough to topple him so they can be eliminated (not enclave, likely a group that looted big mt)

Its sort of a retelling of new vegas in the sense that you are building a coalition again. I think the house ending is just the most interesting and want to see what he would do after the hoover damn victory.
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>a lot of things can happen in 15 years, chud, shut up
>season ends with the Mojave being in more or less the same place as the start of New Vegas
what did Nolan mean by this?
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>>217781746
why new vegas, just why? too hard to make a likeable alternative I presume? bethesda cant cope hard enough. they cant make games and cant make lore and they should just sell the IP to fucking anyone. fallout 5 isn't coming. you blew it.
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>>217773499
Entertain the goyim
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>>217780995
Art interprets the world through human bias, it's about more than just making a copy of reality. No, what I was saying is there is no reason to ever save a photo of a dead loved one because you could just imagine them anytime. You're a fucking retarded sperg who knows hes wrong yet you're too far in to admit that now.
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>>217781746
Nigger you do know the securitron vault is producing securitrons? That's what the noises are when you upgrade them, more securitrons being built.
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>>217782058
>NOO the logic I used is wrong now because it makes me look dumb!!!
Oh so now there's more to art than just 1:1 portraying reality, very interesting, imagine if this could be somehow applied to storytelling and if certain stories in Vegas were purposefully told in a certain way. Very interesting stuff
>too far in to admit that now
I'm not even the guy you started this with lmao. You skipped one of my earlier posts tho, can you finally tell me what kind of explanation you'll accept to be outside preferences? Seeing how you felt compelled to return to this convo an hour later lmao
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>>217782179
>convo
>complaining about time
Go back.
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>>217782058
memories degrade and are imperfectly replaced
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>>217782230
Oh yes, the non-reply tactic. That'll show me
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>>217782433
>muh x tactic
How much karma do you have?
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her eyes are off putting. was she a clone that came out kinda half baked?
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>>217773499
Enclave here, why isn't your video feed working?
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>>217773541
Fallout is a shitty video game franchise, the show is actually worth a watch.
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>>217782787
>comment.js
go back
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Because it sets up the next season
as do a lot of season 2s that will end with season 3.

Which is the final season. 3 seasons were planned. That's what were getting.

>>217773778
That doesn't make any sense?
This show made me rebuy the og games.
Made me like Fallout even more.
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>>217782532
Around Good or Very Good, thanks for asking
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>>217780147
kek
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>>217773517
because i HATE FALLOUT
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>>217774775
It's all set-up for the cliffhanger that it gets cancelled on
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>>217782854
there is no set up. things are just happening and then happening somewhere else. the end.
>the show made me buy the game
to support who?
>made me like the game more
only thing that made sense
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What happened to Hank? Did he lose his memories or something? What do the boxes even do?
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They better do a timeskip for season 3, it doesn't have to be that long but just have atleast Lucy be wastelandish now and settled into the world.
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>>217782747
Accurate representation of panic attack desu
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>>217782963
https://youtu.be/xhnlUbKpltQ
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Does this mean Stephanie is Lucy and Norms mother?
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I'd have rather got a new vegas remaster and some new DLC showing the aftermath of what's happening in present day new vegas with some decent writing (providing Todd and friends didn't do it)
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So who got chipped in the wasteland?
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The cold fusion plot isn't fucking over is it. I want that shit done with jesus christ
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>>217773499
It was nothing happens, the season. Why did you think there would be a payoff?
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Why does Todd love this control chip thing so much? The new gen synths in Fallout 4 were basically this same plotline, and it already sucked ass back then. What's more, they tote the idea that some wastelanders have been chipped by the microchips as some big reveal, but there's no realistic way for the viewer to decipher who has gotten chipped, so it's fairly obvious they're just going to use that as bullshit unforeshadowed twists next season, a perfect storytelling device for someone who can't write.
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>>217783155
there were countless ass pull plot devices just out of reach of understanding all throughout this show. because even the writers don't know what the fuck is going on. yummy diarrhea.
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There were so many wasted plot devices. The vault dwellers were killed off like nothing. The super mutants, NCR, Legion, microchips, deathclaws created by the enclave somehow. All of this shit seems too farfetched to be connected.

The enclave blew up shady sands yet still put control chips inside off some people. If you could do that why blow up a town?
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The writers saw nothing wrong with doing back to back last second saves.
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>>217783277
supermutants and deathclaws were created by the FEV

house realized the enclave existed when he saw a deathclaw via cooper's bodycam footage
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>small group of rad roaches kill small group of humans, conveniently not the one Lucy's brother likes
This was the worst part. You can punch those things down death at lvl 1 + 1 strength.
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>>217783385
FEV really never explored. just a dumb computer screen prompt. how was it made? who made it? how was it distributed. and no, the games should not supply these answers.
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>>217783461
same way the chips were made presumably, inhumane testing
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>>217781701
and just in time to fight the legion next season, who also just so happened to get their shit together in time for all of this
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so uhh next fallout game is in colorado?
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>>217783499
presumptions should be dispelled, not extended into another snorestorm of "to be continued". they wont explain it is my guess. dithering reject writing expecting you to do their homework for them.
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>>217783625
I kind of prefer a mystery though. Not like you need to know how cold fusion was made to understand its importance to the plot
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If they canonize parts of Van Buren when visiting Colorado in Season 3 I will buy 1000 copies of Skyrim 10 and the Fallout 3 remake.
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>>217783449
That was based, why would you kill that qt?
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>>217773499
I wanted to see the Legion vs NCR, guess not
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>>217782747
Accurate representation of female orgasm desu
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>>217777952
>Bringing them back yet again is just a, "wow, really?"
doesn't feel like that
from all the comments i've been seeing, everyone is just concentrating on the 'vibe' of the show
for example
>WOW THAT LAST SCENE WAS LIKE THAT INTRO VIDEO IN NEW VEGAS
>WOW I THOUGHT IT WAS THE COURIER
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>>217784592
Makes sense, this show really nails the vibe/aesthetic of fallout but the plot is fucking horseshit.

Really makes you realize how much Netflix fucked up with Witcher. All they had to do was nail the aesthetic/vibes of the books/games and normies would have loved it no matter how shitty or different the story was.
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>>217773499
Yeah I guess introducing tons of new characters, factions, technologies, resolving Hank/Lucy plotline, showing Hanks entire science story, revealing about the Vault-Tek was the flunkies of The Enclave plot, Canadian character, implying Europe is involved somehow, its all nothing.
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>Somehow, the Enclave has returned
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>>217783047
See the last episode of season 1 if you're still confused

It is now EXTREMELY interesting that she ghouled after the bomb went off
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>>217773499
This show is just an experiment in the Chud vault where nothing ever happens.
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>>217777952

Honestly I don't think I saw dumber writing in my life.

People living next to a pack of Deathclaws protected by a tiny gate they could destroy at any moment but just didn't because plot.

Legion having a civil war with two camps literally next to each other.

A million completely pointless scenes. All the fucking songs. Everybody being utterly retarded.
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>>217783020
get those a lot when you're getting fucked in your asshole?
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>>217773499
I just really appreciate that they are at least trying to make fans happy. Unlike The Witcher, Halo, Monster Hunter movie, Resident Evil. Those directors spit in the face of everyone who was a fan of the games. At least Fallout is trying. The NCR coming back was pretty cool. People were pissed earlier that they were wiped out.
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>>217785458
>The NCR coming back was pretty cool. People were pissed earlier that they were wiped out
Wiping them out was stupid in the first place, and returning them as an appeasement out of nowhere was extremely gutless. I refuse to believe anyone is happy with this unless they're the kind of guy who gets invested in bright lights and keys jingled on their face
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>>217773517
There only kind of Fallout fans are those that ruined Fallout.
The ones that got Fallout ruined for them are no longer fans.
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>>217785645
We don't know what happened. The NCR could have been fighting some important war. We will find out in season 3.
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>>217782079
The vault is just storage. Just look it up. Even if it could make more, I can easily make up a reason as to why he cant.
>The vault was sabotaged by an unknown advanced faction
Which can be the initial motivating factor for house.
>>217781805
Its the only interesting area that has a semblance of civilization.
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>>217784052
not when its a dogshit plot device and nothing else
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>>217785780
I don't really even care where they come from, it's not the relevant part here. The point is it was appeasement and worthless fanservice, which happened after having pretty solidly established that they have no interest in doing anything real with NCR or the Vegas setting in general. You're literally creaming your pants because you recognized a flag, you're the exact audience the showrunners wanted
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>>217780147
Not anon, but i like Fallout Tactics and BoS on PS2, had so much fun leading maxed out dog and deathclaw team to do a horde rush, then had fun turbo hammer everything in BoS.
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>>217786033
Alright, you just sound bitter and depressing. What would you have preferred? The NCR and Legion fighting for the strip again? I think the show handled it fine.
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I can’t wait to see an Elder Scrolls adaption where the altmer are played by like niggers or something. That would be really funny in a sad way.
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>>217773499
That's every prime show
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>>217786243
OH LAWD
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>>217786184
>What would you have preferred?
For them to make a series that doesn't purposefully construct itself in a way that it fucks with the setting of games Bethesda didn't even write. I was fine when it was just Le Ghoul and the Womanlady touring some OC locations. The problem is the writing is significantly worse than in the good games, but they're trying to write a canon sequel and pretending they have something fresh to offer
>The NCR and Legion fighting for the strip again?
Ironically enough this is what you got with the show, no? They couldn't even continue the Vegas story into any meaningful direction, so after fucking around with it for a whole season, and nuking the NCR for shits and giggles, they just ultimately tried to do a reset, and wrote a worse and less nuanced version where NCR and Legion are going to fight for the Strip again. They couldn't even commit to building something new and my cock is left flaccid on the sands of Mojave
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>>217773499
Nonsense. The season was mostly 'nothing happens,' but the finale had a lot of happenings. The whole season felt like a stepping stone to set up S3.

>>217777952
Her body was a highlight of the season.
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I'm confused, wasn't the congresswoman head necessary for the device to work? Why can they still use it?
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>>217774875
>Why did they reset the factions
Unironically lorelets and specifically NVfags caused this. Over a decade of sperging out about every bit of canon has created the idea that people will be upset if they advance the canon. That would mean [insert favorite ending] would be invalid and we can't upset these rabid fags. The game was rigged from the start, they dug their grave and now they're upset they gotta lay in it. How deliciously apropos.
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>>217777952
I'm glad 360 kids that loved Fallout 3 are getting the experience people that liked the original games did of getting hit by a tidal wave of normalfag stupidity washing over the thing you liked
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>>217786759

Because shitty writting.

> 8 episodes wasted just for Hank to turn into Dougie Jones
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>>217786887
This girl is so fucking cute its insane.
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>>217786887
This girl is so fucking brown its insane.
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>>217773499
It's expensive to make things happen. They only had money for the deathclaw this season. The rest had to go in their pockets to go towards new yachts and new lakes to put the yachts in. It's in the contract.
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>>217786277
>The games The games the games
This is a TV show, not the games. If you want a meaningful sequel then wait for fallout 5. The show is a side story. that has 5 seasons planned. You can't shove 400 hours of fallout games into a single season of Television.
>They couldn't even commit to building something new and my cock is left flaccid on the sands of Mojave
They did do something new. They "killed off" the NCR and people bitched. Everyone thought the good guys lost. Then turns out they were still fighting. Yet you still bitch about it. There is no winning over someone who hates everything.
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>>217773541
You are getting absolutely bodied, dude. Jesus Christ. Put me in the screencap, dis nih COOKED on GOD
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>>217773791
6 episodes 3 years from now.
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>>217787244
total budget per season: $100M
remaining budget after every exec, lead and supporting actors are paid: $20M
after CG expenses: $10M
after costumes, set design: $1M
after paying shills to boost it up on reddit and teevee: $0M
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>>217787381
>>217787244
$100m to $150m per season. this is what america wastes shekels on instead of building, maintaining infrastructure, expanding cities.
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>>217787282
>This is a TV show, not the games. If you want a meaningful sequel then wait for fallout 5
For everyone who enjoyed New Vegas, this show is literally the sequel. The issue is this will be canon in the games too, so people who want to play the video games are going to have to suffer with the script choices this show makes, it's simple as that
>They did do something new. They "killed off" the NCR and people bitched
Yes, because they killed what is essentially the "protagonist" of the franchise, and replaced it with nothing
>Then turns out they were still fighting. Yet you still bitch about it
Yes, because it was written as a desperate fan appeasement and makes for a shit script. These things can exist simultaneously, you can have a series that writes two bad things at the same time. And if you read between the lines, with a competent script department I think it would have been possible to nuke NCR and make a really interesting plot out of it for S2, on some platonic script level, but they didn't do that, they made a non-sensical fan pandering that resets Vegas after destroying it for no reason
>There is no winning over someone who hates everything
It's impossible to talk about this seriously with you when you've just randomly decided I hate everything, even though I explained literally last post what kind of series I'd liked and what kind of content in the series I do like. Why are we even pretending to have this conversation when you don't engage with what I write? Bottom line is I'm only asking that the studio doesn't purposefully fuck with the game settings or then writes a script that creates something meaningful out of that fuckery. I'm going to sleep so I won't probably reply but if you still walk away from this with the idea that I would have hated everything they do, regardless of me holding your hand and explaining my reasoning, then there's no hope for you son
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>>217787282
>There is no winning over someone who hates everything.
Imagine you have good friend who one day gets kidnapped by Hodd Toward. He then calls you and informs your friend is dead. Now that's a pretty bad thing
The next day, Hoddy realizes you got mad, and decides to return the friend to you, only he's been anally raped by this point and missing a few teeth and maybe a finger or two. Hodd says "see, it's almost like nothing ever happened", but this isn't a good thing either
Why did this motherfucker have to kidnap the friend? Nobody knows. He could've have used that time to write something interesting, but he just decided to have anal sex with this guy instead. And nobody's happy about what happened.
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>>217780703
>>217782854
if you liked fallout you would feel disgust and emotional pain at seeing the franchise being butchered. it would be an involuntary reaction to slop but it seems like your brains are already mush so you consume whatever the screen tells you to consume be it good or bad
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>>217785962
Yeah but your story sucks anyways. Fuck off rodent.
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>>217786887
>frog eyes pic that gets spammed in every thread
>crying about NV fans
Shill spotted.
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>>217774775
Has anyone actually told the showrunners that the first two New Vegas conflicts weren't about New Vegas?
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>>217780703
If it didn't mean anything you would be here defending it and trying to stop people from saying how shit the show is, now go fuck off.
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I don't watch fallout, I don't read these threads. I just click on them and scroll until I find pictures or videos of Ella
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>>217787541
>For everyone who enjoyed New Vegas, this show is literally the sequel. The issue is this will be canon in the games too
The show literally retcons NV by nuking Shady Sands years before the first battle of hoover dam. The issue is that the writers either completely destroy or bastardize the westcoast as a setting. The show doesn't need to be canon either, it could have literally just been its own retarded thing and no one would have cared.
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>>217780927
curious are you a dude whose uncircumsised? legit asking cause it seems to be a deciding factor in being that way. circumsition causes psychopathy in men.
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>>217780927
>I'm an ISTP and I'm not really liked by any of my coworkers, I don't get it
I don't know what that is but it sound like soulless corporate bullshit.
>So Ghoul is going to the Big MT? or Legion territory? Either way his family is super dead now
I don't think Big MT. is in Colorado so Legion turf it is, unless the tards don't know they control it (which is extremely likely)
>Eww!
Agreed
>What the heck?
Nothing has really happened the season has just been fucking around and memberberries.
>with the Enclave side quest
Why is House working with the Enclave?
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>>217789547
it's actually Vault 0 they are implying, they showed it in promo material for season 2.
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>>217784829
The enclave should have never gone away just because some oilrig with 90% of their personnel died. or the aircraft carrier walker. Murica is large enough for them to have plan Bs and secret bases..
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>>217789574
>it's actually Vault 0
Man if things weren't a shitshow as it is they are going to go for Tactics now.
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>>217774048
Well yeah. What else would they do with him? He’s gonna help Lucy
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>Liberty Prime
>For a third fucking time
The BoS suck so fucking badly
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>>217789692
They are Todd's big armored babies who get to have all the fancy toys and be everywhere even when it doesn't make sense.
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>>217780927
>don't get it
Self diagnosis was the first fuckup you made.
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>>217773499
>Why did they decide to make season finale "Nothing happens: the episode"?
Because the perfect way to sum up "Nothing Happens: The Season"
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>>217777523
... for like 20 seconds
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>>217773499
The show is trying to juggle too many plotlines in too few minutes which slows the show to crawl
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Admit it, you screamed
>KINO
when this scene happened
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>>217790792
mom I want fallout
We have fallout at home!!
>fallout at home
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>>217788169
You along with other undesirables will be forced to watch it while being milked (painful) to ensure not a single drop of reproductive fluid enters a human female.
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>>217790102
>"Nothing Happens: The Season"
It's set up like a video game. Minimal character growth, plot hardly moves, mostly world building and then everything happens in the last episode of the season to set up the next.
>Surprise the Enclave is still a thing in Colorado
>Surprise the Legion is reunited under Kevin
>Surprise the NCR is still around SOMEWHERE
>Surprise Hank somehow managed to spread his mindcontrol devices all over the wasteland and wiped his own mind
>Surprise Cleetus Van Damme's family isn't frozen anymore and also in Colorado
>Surprise the BOS' civil war is in full swing, surprise House has fusion energy now.

They could have spread that over 3 episodes but for some reason they crammed it into the finale.
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>>217773541
I doubt it
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>>217777952
Good morning, sar.
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>>217782747
Accurate representation of okey-dokey ngl fαm smҺ
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I fucking love Steph's actress.
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>>217780927
>I'm an ISTP and I'm not really liked by any of my coworkers, I don't get it
I am too and I also don't get it
I guess she was pro armed forces personnel and against big government corruption, goes against the grain and isn't popular, so that fits her being ISTP
But using an ISTP as the ideal 'golden personality type' for an office drone??
Fuck no, some retard must've gotten them mixed up with ISTJs who are the archetypical corporate cattle class

ISTPs are the practical pragmatic loner types that would be the ideal wasteland survivor, like The Ghoul.

>>217789547
>I don't know what that is but it sound like soulless corporate bullshit.
Pretty much.
MBTI was an attempt by a mother and daughter to boil down Jungian psychology into a format easily consumed by bored housewives who read Cosmo, for some reason soulless corpo types adopted it - probably because that demographic moved into HR.

If you do any reading on it I'd suggest skipping the work safe globo homo special snowflake shite that is 16personalities, and skip straight to typeinmind which actually explains the Jungian functions, and their pros and cons.
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>>217773499
I was briefly very excited that Cooper's ghoulish negro wife was dead and wouldn't be in the show anymore. My heart sank when they showed the postcard and implied she's still alive. I feel mild disgust looking at her.

>>217792193
I want to fuck her mouth. I don't even have a thing for that, but something about her makes me want to fuck her mouth. A lot.

>>217790792
This was so fucking based. Would have been cooler at night with dramatic lighting though.
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>>217793199
There should have been two skeletons in his wife's cryo pod thus making him just a badass Ghoul with literally nothing to lose anymore. Even if it was revealed they were replaced with two unknown bodies in a later season and they're alive or some shit. These fucking storylines need to be done and move onto another.
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>>217792193
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>>217773499
wait that was the finale?
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>>217793389
yeah, like I saw a few thread back, this is just a connecting season setting up everything for season 3. Granted the entire Hank outcome was kinda lame, something tells me he didn't actually lobotomize himself.
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>aaaand the secret villain is....
>*drum roll*
>ENCLAVE
>again
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>>217793828
What a shock when they started the entire tv series with the enclave being the villain in name shown on screen that they would still be the villain now.
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>>217792193
She's so hot like compare the almost identical costume of Daryl Hannah from Kill Bill 2 to her costume for her wedding day and she actually mogs Daryl a bit. Also I seriously had to google that there is a woman named Daryl Hannah like my brain cannot believe a woman is named Daryl but its true btw
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>>217795147
They actually pay you to post here of all places?
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>>217784829
>It makes sense for new Enclave cells to appear after 200+ years of doing nothing because uh...
>It just does! Okay?
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how is the ncr back? shady sands was nuked. everyone knows when you destroy one location that entire faction dies everywhere
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>>217787333
hey anon I just want to let you know, your post made me laugh out loud
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desu i liked the show. hank carried the show. him slinging the yo-yo. doing his experiments. calling lucy sugar bomb which i just realized earlier was literally a reference to the in-game item known as sugar bombs.

yep, i'm thinking it's kino.
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>>217796295
Thanks to bethesda giving everyone cryo chambers and storage vaults, yeah it does. Also the enclave was known to still have assets in chicago at the very least. Also again, the show started with the enclave being the big bad.
People pretending like this is some new reveal that the enclave are the big bad are either forgetting or never watched the first season. Which I mean, fair enough. Fuck this stupid fucking show.
It may be trash, but they clearly told you "de enclave iz the baddest bad of the bads" multiple times now.
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>>217773499
>Why did they decide to make season finale "Nothing happens: the episode"?

Every episode leading up to the season finale was "nothing happens: the episode". Why would it build up to anything?
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The deathclaw were too easy to kill
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>>217797217
That is what they get for having soft bellies.
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>>217793389
they only make shows with 8 episode seasons anymore
its a fucking insult and I herald the arrival of AI
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>>217774994
Of course you will, mouthbreather. Enjoy your slop.
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>>217796973
Yeah, well he has alzheimer’s now
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NCR was ejected from their heartland by an amazon created BoS chapter (Quintus's BoS) who are also capable of building liberty primes and prydwens and vertibird fleets, which would put them on equal power level of Arthur Maxson's BoS, and somehow this chapter rose up without the council of elders noticing, they somehow built up their military presence in the middle of the NCR-Brotherhood war without NCR noticing, and out of nowhere, in the middle of the desert. Meanwhile vegas also apparently had a giant enclave base built underneath it without anyone noticing along with house keeping it a secret from C6 despite being his right hand man, and enclave being House's enemies. All this so they can invalidate everything My courier did in FNV and to inject bethesda's generic BoS vs Enclave shit into a setting it doesn't belong in. Bull-fucking SHIT. And because of moronic writing made up by chatbot and unpaid interns skimming wiki to feed it, the setting is lesser. It's been reduced to the same sort of generic slop as every bethesda fallout setting, where the BoS fight raiders and super mutants and ghouls ad nauseum. And now you're getting enclave vs BoS, and you're getting liberty prime again as well on top of it. The setting has been reduced to generic slop.
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>>217788948
>Has anyone actually told the showrunners that the first two New Vegas conflicts weren't about New Vegas?

lol yes, I don't think they've mentioned Hoover Dam even ONCE. This is just them doing a skimming summary of New Vegas. And they've reset the world so that it's just a rehash of the New Vegas plot:

>House
>NCR
>Legion
>All fight for New Vegas (again)

This means the game's plot was utterly pointless and decided nothing.
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>>217797700
The only thing I'll "give" them on the BOS plot is Area 51 could 100% have parts for prime stored. Since it is a protected BOS bunker with a bunch of BOS stuff they recovered post war I would think there would be a good chance of it in fact.
Its still a stupid fucking plotline and they really just cut the fuck away from both norm and the bos civil war for episodes like it was no big deal.
All that shit should've been ended when the actual Prydwen showed up and glassed those pretenders but clearly bethesda wants to have fun with turning every faction full preddit.
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>>217773499
I don't get it, a constant theme of TV writing is homeostasis. It happens and people are bitching?
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>>217797703
I've said it in these threads before but the writers read the fallout wikis and read a term then put it in the show. Nothing was planned after episode 1.
>Raiders are NCR instead
>Hank is Enclave because_
>Ghous need drugs not purpose to stay sane
>FEV FEV FEV FEV FEV FEV
and so on and so on
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>>217797741
Big MT was supposed to be Area 51, but it's just a retconned bunker full of plot contrivance goodies now that apparently also fits inside the entire military industrial complex that built the Liberty Prime now.

No. It's a joke, like most every idea the TV writers tried. The only place where you can build and assemble LP is in Washington DC, and the facility which can assemble it is most likely scattered around the grounds it once stood on. The liberty prime was a one of a kind superweapon, not something you can build in a shack overnight.

I'm arguing a moot point though, the writing in the show ignores basic things like geography to make its plot happen. Next season will probably have 3 liberty primes for all I know.
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>>217797858
I'm not saying it isn't a fucking joke of a show. I'm saying given what is on screen in the show so far it is not unbelievable that there is parts for that schematic in that bunker or nearby.
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>>217797858
The series is written like a roller coaster ride of events, and doesn't evenr eally tell its own story. They want a big fight with liberty Prime because that was a big memorable event from Fallout 3. They want a battle for Hoover Dam because it was popular last time around in New Vegas. nothing is original. It's also hitting highlights, which is why it ignores locations from Fallout 1-2 because those games are niche and not popular, even though by all means places like The Hub should be BIG DEALS in this setting.
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>>217797858
Also don't get me started on geography.
>31,32,33 are on the west coast of california, right by the boneyard, right by multiple populated areas.
>an area that was HEAVILY SCRAPPED and looted and picked over for decades
>no one ever noticed the VAULT DOOR SITTING OUT IN THE OPEN in 200 years
ok.
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>>217797915
I understood your point but building a massive purpose built robot requires a whole supply chain around it. All the internals will be complex robotics, weapons systems, power generators etc, all the externals will be heavy industry custom built frames and plates. If Quintus can somehow build that then he might as well build himself a fleet of apaches and abramses.
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>>217797973
It's the Bethesda-fication of the West Coast. The vibe that they want is to have an endless apocalypse where no one can make any progress AND super weapons and high tech weapons. The setting is completely schizophrenic and makes zero sense.

Also keep in mind, that they thought Fallout 4 should compete against MINECRAFT for crafting and world design. That's how Bethesda thinks and approaches them. The ideas of 1-2 are irrelevant to them.
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>>217797927
you forgot the most egregious one.

these don't even bother me nearly as much as the ghoul supposedly walking all the way from Boneyard to Mojave and claiming there are no NCR settlements, but the show still pretending the NCR is sending their sorely needed troops to capture the ruins of the strip.
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>>217798033
they would just say the vault doors were impenetrable or some bullshit so it was left alone and no one could open it
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>>217797915
Fallout has BEEN a fucking joke since Intergay went defunct and the rights were sold for 5 dollars to Todd Howard. And it was already in terminal decline with Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel.
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>>217773499
Eh stuff happened but I agree it was emotionally flat for me. I was kinda excited for the NCR ranger to save Maximus but thats about it really. I didn't feel much either way about Hank or Lucy losing him, or even Maximus and Lucy reuniting. Anyway I'm interested to see the super mutant settlements in Colorado and maybe see some tribes from Utah?
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>>217798033
Ah yes. These two anons think they could raid a concrete steel reinforced building.
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>>217798018
>AND super weapons and high tech weapons. The setting is completely schizophrenic and makes zero sense.
my favorite is gen 3 synths. emil & todd forgot they were writing for an atompunk setting instead of cyberpunk and just added in some random shit from some gookshit space MMORPG
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I'm still mad about what they did to the Kings.
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>>217788840
He's not wrong, tho
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>>217798084
>>217798091
im 99% sure in fo1 the super mutants got into the vault by blowing the vault door hinges off with C4, or blowing it out of its housing somehow, so the doors arent as resistant as you think
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I gave up hope on episode 4. That brought the snail's pace to a grinding hault.
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>>217786887
>Over a decade of sperging out about every bit of canon has created the idea that people will be upset if they advance the canon
They did advance the canon, but then stopped half way and tried to put everything back together after the fact after they realized they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
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>>217777853
and half the time the three episode later reveals are things we already know about from the games.
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>>217773499
That's just what western TV does nowadays
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>>217798086
Tactics ruled, kill yourself.
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>>217798091
No, I think that VAULT FUCKING CITY exists nearby and has VAULT DWELLERS LIVING IN IT who would have either known, seen, or traded with or SOMETHING with 2 active vaults with people in them. Vaults one of which at least has opened once and NUKED PEOPLE supposedly once the writers thought that up after the fact.
It is shit writing. All they had to do was put the entrance in any sort of bunker instead of in the fucking open.
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>>217797703
>a negress in NCR uniform appears
>"ah shit we done blew up hoova damn cause them legion chuds done overrun us"
>boom no longer have to deal with hoover dam and can continue the big war for the funny buildings
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>>217798241
>pls to be watching the bug hivelings chitter
no.
just no.
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imagine the awkward moment when the person who oversees the nepobaby has to carefully tell the nepobaby that the "chip" plot they came up with is more or less just a rehash of fallout 4's plot, but that it's okay and that it's actually a good idea, and that they'll use it and make an entire season about it.

LOL but that would never happen in the real world
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>>217798291
Those NCR reinforcements probably came from vault city and we will learn what happened to it in season 3.
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>>217782999
The Legion is right at the gates. Why would you blueball like that?
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>>217798406
they came "from the east" (which is legion territory)

the writers are just asking chatgpt how to progress dude there's no logic
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>>217798370
Nah dude it's worse than synths man. Worse than FEV. It wipes peoples' freakin' memories man, turning them into like, drones. Wouldn't it be fucked up if like, in a future game the Enclave steals your Dad from your vault, and when you find him they've turned him into a chipped zombie, and you must kill him or die!
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>>217798306
It would cause a huge flood, and also deprive them of the source of water and electricity that makes new vegas habitable.
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>>217798468
No fuck you, Hoover Dam has been dried out for years by the time of the show, because it's like the apocalypse and stuff.
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>>217773499
Because that's how all TV is made. Easy to write, goycattle will eat it up if they can feel like something is happening, works every time
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>>217798115
The fact the final episode had the scene where the door gets broken down to the building and its just all dust n shit.

I thought it would have been good (and maybe a bit reddit) if suddenly a King appeared and in an elvis accent asks what the hell is going on, then the rest of the Kings came out and helped blackximus fight the deathclaws lol
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>>217798406
>Those NCR reinforcements probably came from vault city
...
Shoot yourself.
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I am only going to continue watching this show because I want to know what happens to thaddeus. Is he becoming a centaur, or some unique mutant or what the fuck? I gotta know
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>>217798514
hah they wanted the city in the game
they could've easily setup camp and taken it over at some point
remember this post and watch the writers make it happen
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>>217798530
Someone read the wiki on Harold and is going to make him a burning bush or something and he's going to make a pickle rick joke.
>LOOK I'M A BUSH, MAXIMUS!
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>>217798530
He's probably just dying. What will most likely happen is, like a child with his sick puppy, Maximus brings the dying Thadeus into the Lucky 38, begging Mr. House to save his friend. Mr. House can save Thadeus, but only by uploading a scan of his brain into the Lucky 38's computers. To do this, Thadeus has to strap himself into the pod Mr. House is in when we see him in NV, comically toppling over Mr. House's corpse in the process. After uploading his brain, Mr. House stores the Thadeus AI inside a Securitron, like Yes Man. This new robo-Thadeus can now wander the wastes again with his pals Maximus and Lucy on their adventures.
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"chatgpt pls im a creative dierctor for a prestige tv production they told me my idea was bad and i dont want to get fired from my nepojob"

>Thinking...
>Ah, it seems you are having a problem with creating an interesting vision for your Project, of which are the Creative Director of
>We'll fine tune your writing ideas, ensuring they remain internally consistent and distinct from the previous ideas you mentioned.

>1. Instead of mind control chips, try mind altering chips.
>2. Instead of adding a new a faction, try nuking an existing one. War, War Never Changes.
>3. Instead of having the Enclave be the initial villain from the get go, keep them hidden until a more opportune moment arises -- This creates tension and can help set up a narrative twist
>4. If you are stuck, try adding a comedic moment, or a fan service bit into the moment. Used sparingly, these can create levity in the script, allowing the story time to breathe.

>Which direction would you like me to proceed? Just let me know!
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>>217798758
pretty good theory
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>>217798227
Nah, there is no way they wrote season 2 as they filmed. It was always planned to have the factions be reset to status quo so the NV fans don't have a melty, but their mistake was assuming rabid NV fans are capable of being normal well adjusting humans.
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>>217780927
>I'm an ISTP and I'm not really liked by any of my coworkers, I don't get it
ISTP is the best worker drone personality. Competent, will do the work, wont question and wont speak up.
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>>217782854
mmm its planned garbage? Must consume it!
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>>217773499
what's in Colorado anyway?
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>>217799946
Technically nothing by strict canon, but it's where Fallout Tactics ended:
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault_0



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