best friends editionprev >>217766790
>The Targaryens are quintessential Westerosi Duncan. They have been here for 200 years and built up the kingdoms. It is all stolen land from the Children of the Forest and the First Men anyway, nobody is a foreign invader on stolen land. They enriched our culture with their valerian recipes and customs. So yes, I think it was an accident that he killed the horse.
>>217775175In the show Robert claims he does not even remember what Lyanna looks like. Besides, the Lyanna he knew was older than Arya he was seeing, and he is barely interacting with Arya anyway.
Characters who went to the island?
>be grrm>lose 100lbs>still refuse to write anything, even wildcardsoh okay
>>217775725>Targaryen conquest was objectively the best thing to happen to WesterosWhat did George mean by this?
even his helm is smug
>>217775785
>>217775737Visenya Targaryen
>>217775785That neck seems vulnerable.
>>217775655https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6a9cGPq0mA
>70 years old and tired>Book has been in the works for over a decade, meaning you don't even like half the ideas in it anymore>Show's disastrous ending means he now fears for his reputation>Hype is so much no matter how good winds is it would never meet expectations>He's already getting money and fame without writing it anyway>Any secret he could write has already been predicted by someone>He's probably burned out on asoiaf in generalYeah its doomed
>>217775785is it just me or is that face shape reminiscent of Reiner
>>217775801It should have been me....
>>217775831The prop department's budget went to Arlan's cock.
MWAAHHH the Fossoway Cider™ has always been celebrated for its excellence.
>>217775882you can bet your ass they have a catchy tune to go along with the advertisement
>>217775801
>>217775770Based on british history.
>>217775895>FilenameAh shit, did I miss a thread? I've been trying to save all of the Fossoway Cider™ edits.
>>217775725What are some Valyrian recipes?
>>217775655
>>217775725>Targshits
>>217775895that picture is amazing lmao
>>217775862
>>217775903yjk
Targaryans be like: I'm gay and retarded.
>>217775950An asspull so egregious that rivals later season gotThe ending, however was better. Not good, but better than got.
>>217775948
>>217775895>I used to spend my days projectile shitting behind a tree. Now I'm one of the most famous knights in the realm and I'm best friends with Targaryen princelings. All I needed was the crisp, refreshing taste of Fossoway Cider. >*looks directly into camera*>For a Great Day, Try Fossoway™
>>217776031
IF IT'S CLEAR AND YELLA, YOU GOT JUICE THERE FELLA!IF IT'S TANGY AND BROWN, YOU'RE IN CIDER TOWN!
>>217776011>>217776018>>217776031I have to say I love the Fossoway Cider Memes, thanks anon(s)
BLACKF*RE FUCKING SHITS GET OUT OF MY THREADMUTANT OGRE BASTARDS THE LOT OF THEMIVE TAKEN SHITS PRETTIER THAN BLACKF*RES
>>217775725
Do you think they will make changes to the 7 vs 7 teams?I really hope not..
I might actually try to buy some alcoholic cider this week for Friday. Any good brands in the states?
>>217776176its all lining up so far
>>217776031Kino.
>>217776176I see no reason to think they would. We've even seen stills of them magically apparate a 3rd Kingsguard to the trial.
>>217775833Didn't realize the pink hair chick was a bookfag
>>217775924fancy food with grapes
daemon isnt even in the top 15 fighters of westeros during the targaryen era
>>217775833Is this the famous "goycattle" I hear so much about?
>>217775833No bessieNo watchSimple as
>>217776168
>>217776169The Targaryen peace was fake. They made no attempt at uniting the continent besides threatening anyone who didn't bend the knee to be burned to a crisp.
>>217776256Do you a pic of bessie? I only recognize the pink haired one and the fat bitch on the far right
>>217776287GODS THE TITS WERE BIG THEN
>>217776287
>>217775655I told you the little guy was a Targaryen and you ignored me!
Is Egg's death reveal a spoiler even for bookfags?
>>217776344we've known for over 20years you dumb shit, we were trying not to spoil it
>>217776319I always thought the middle one was underrated, she has a mousey charm
>>217776367No.
>>217776367no-one really knows what happened at summerhall, egg and dunk survived faked their deaths and roamed the land as hedge knights end of story
>>217776319where did her friends go? Was HotD season 2 too much?
>>217775725I KNEW when i saw this scene. instnat /got/ classic
>>217776202Angry Orchard or Redd's Hard Apple are good from my experience. Apple Beer is great if you want a non-alcoholic option.
>>217776367>bookfagsdo those even really exist at this point? I know about Summerhall but I haven't touched the books for a decade.
>>217776367Details aren't there but we know when, where and the leadup to who dies
>>217776420>Apple Beer is great if you want a non-alcoholic option.
>>217776319gods the end one is such a rediculious cunt, I tried to watch their shogun reactions and she kept saying shit that made zero sense, which is when I realized she has no fucking clue what she is talking about she just says shit and read wikipedia what a worthless whore
The greatest thing since sliced bread
>>217776367We know how he diedWe just dont know exactly what caused the fire at summerhall
>>217776273Westeros would never be united though The best hope it could ever have is being a pale imitation of Essos where everyone becomes some form of Mutt and all Speak High Valyrian
>>217776420dude I got WASTED on appletina last night! me and the other elementary schoolers were buzzin'! :D
>>217776235true but he was the best dragon rider
>>217776202If you're ever in Ireland or the UK try Orchard Thieves. It's my go to.
Cider is dangerous. You find some 5%-6% Cider and it's like drinking beers but it tastes better and also has more calories. Be careful fellas
Does anyone even give a shit about ASOIAF the novel series anymore?
Entire franchise has been downhill since Bobby died
>>217776465>>217776367he obviously tried to do something similar to Dany's dragon hatching only without all the necessary steps. GRRM is creative but he's not THAT creative.
>>217776008They used it twice so it's not an asspull.
>>217776483I gave up. I'm just here for the shitposting.
when is the next episode?
>>217776483I do but it's obvious we're n9t getting Winds
>>217776483its infinitely rereadable so yes
>>217776509Friday
>>217776558damn that's quick, why not on sunday?
Guys I have a confession to make.. I've never finished the books.. I got halfway through AGOT and stopped..
>>217776483I would really really like to see it finished but I've obviously accepted the situation as is
>>217776483"care" isn't the right word.I've literally read fan theories that are better than anything GRRM would do even if he finished the books, but he isn't going to anyway so headcanon is my only remaining source of investment. GRRM recently admitting he's still changing his mind about which characters to kill off was another milestone of separation.
>>217776509Wednesday
>>217776494My theory is that the faceless men sabotaged it
>>217776566Superbowl
>>217776569it's actually the worst one. people fap over its plot twists but its the worst-written and most of the characters haven't transcended their tropes yet.
I just saw a video breaking down who’s the best warrior in ASOIAFI now get it, you Blackfyre posters just like that he was a good fighter, you literally just care about that, you can’t name a single policy Daemon has, act as if Robert Baratheon wasn’t proof warriors don’t make good kings. You just want Aragorn but in game of thrones lol
>>217776569>I've never finished the booksMartin didn't either so no worries
>>217776611Daeron was not Aegon's son which makes Daemon Blackfyre the legitimate heir to the 7 kingdoms
>>217776611first of all he was a great warrior
>>217776577the theory is that Dany smothering Drogo with a pillow, or her burning Mirri Maz Durr alive, or both, were essential to it working. Egg doesn't seem like a human sacrifice kind of guy.
>>217776483Every Re-Read has been worse than the others.I've read the entire series twice at this point and listened to the audiobooks on a plane recentlyFeast For Crows almost made me give up during it's audio version, it's that painfully slow I wish I could not careBut every other book series is "fine" at bestEveryone keeps saying>READ MALAZANBut it's utter fucking boring trashBlack Company and Robin Hobb books are ok substitutes but they're kinda campy and fantastical instead of grounded fantasy I dunno, I've read tons of booksI always come back to the Fat Bastard at the end as my comfy read
>>217776630Daeron was Aegon’s son.
>>217776657Feast is great you just didn't get it
>>217776642>Egg doesn't seem like a human sacrifice kind of guy.He’s a Targshit. Blood always tells.
>>217776611hate the Dornish
>>217776319for me it was always pink hair girl
>>217776611I can’t name a single policy of Daerons except “the dornish are part of the realm now and they have more rights than all of you and are now part of the royal family”
>>217776657>audio version>slowaudio is already like 3x slower than just reading the fucking text lol
>>217776611I saw daemon onceHe was a great fighter believe me, I know fighters and he was great. I saw him wielding that sword, you know his sword right? BLACKFYREwow what a sword right? Well I saw him wielding that sword and I said, this guy can be a great king, FRANKLY, maybe the greatestI know kings, and he’d be great.
>>217776657The Cersei chapters unironically are what got me through Feast
>>217776724Reminds me of USA and Israel
>>217776611sleepy Daeron waters wrote this
The conversation Raymun had with Dunk about Targaryens is the kind of conversation you'd have with a teenager or a child, not a man who's nearly 30.A fully grown man shouldn't have this level of naivete.They really chose badly by making Dunk be played by an older actor.
>>217776732kek
>>217776744This image is very bimbofied
I don’t even care about the ending since he already gave most of it away but I do wish I could see a few of these characters finally intersect. Like i’d be really interested to read what Jon and Sansa would actually have to say to one another at this point without D&D having to frame it with so much rape baggage they make Sansa sound like a total bitch every time she opens her mouth.
Aren't Targaryens immune to fire?
>>217775833>watch the opening teaser>everyone in the bar just sits there expressionless, waiting for something to happenhey at least they're not being paid to fake excessive enthusiasm
>>217776744I liked the Sansa chapters, because I have a thing for blue-eyed redheads, and my headcanon was that Sansa's body was becoming more fertile and busty.
>>217776744>"most beautiful woman in the realm">draws a bimbo
>>217776760I'm autistic and faceblind so dunk could be any age at all.Suffer normgroid.
>>217776678The most interesting parts in Feast>Iron Born Chapters>The sparse few chapters with Arya>Whatever little finger is doingThey make up like 10 chapters in total compared to the 36 that's filled with>Cerci being a midwit >Jaime muttering about Cettleblacks and moonboy over and over>Dornish whores talking about fucking nothing like Dorne ever fucking mattered anywhere>Fucking SAMWELL like anyone gives a shit about that fat fuckHe's George's Self-Insert no doubtThe Brianne chapters are "ok"But not the kind of stuff I would expect in a ASIOF book The series is heavily carried by Tyrion/Danny/Jon/Arya and Theon/Ironborn stuffEveryone else just isn't as interesting
>>217776788Show only
>>217775924Incest with a teaspoon of kinslaying and a pinch of madness = civil war
>>217776821Cersei being a midwit and Jaime are greatAnd it also has DARKSTARNothing in asoiaf is as cool as DARKSTAR
>>217775655>dunkdunkirk? what does dunkirk have to do with Gay Old Trannies and Hop On That Dick
>>217776611b-but he had the best abshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8c9Dq8faEk
>>217776760>"And that’s another of my pet peeves about fantasies. The bad authors adopt the class structures of the Middle Ages; where you had the royalty and then you had the nobility and you had the merchant class and then you have the peasants and so forth. But they don’t’ seem to realize what it actually meant. They have scenes where the spunky peasant girl tells off the pretty prince. The pretty prince would have raped the spunky peasant girl. He would have put her in the stocks and then had garbage thrown at her. You know. I mean, the class structures in places like this had teeth. They had consequences. And people were brought up from their childhood to know their place and to know that duties of their class and the privileges of their class. It was always a source of friction when someone got outside of that thing. And I tried to reflect that."GRRM kind of forgot about that when he wrote the Hedge Knight, he just has a bunch of lords and royalty make friends with then stand up for some nobody because they like him. ignored just because it didn't fit the story he wanted to write. forgetting how much Dunk OUGHT to know about the world he lives in is nothing compared to that really.
>>217775725Yeah yeah fuck ICE or something...
>>217776760The actor portrays the sheltered/homeschool vibe a squire would have if they'd been following around a hobo knight for most of their childhood.
>>217776788No, heat resistant but can’t survive full on being inflamed Dany was special that one time
Source tells me Baelor is stable.Please god
>>217776892Kings should have abs
>>217776912This would be accurate if that's all he did and had zero interactions with other people in 20 years.But it's not.
>>217776948It's hard to keep them after 30
>>217776760You forgot about the fact that Raymun's tongue had been loosened by a cup of Private Reserve Select Fossoway Cider™.
>>217775770reminder that GRRM originally considered making the Targ's black.
Tanselle looked cute in the knight armor
>>217776847>>217776927Okay, thanks for the reply!
>>217776972Kings should be fit and capable enough to fight with their men
>>217777000
>>217776387Based mouse enjoyer
>>217776821The cersei being a paranoid dimwit completely fucking up westeros and jaime going slowly insane over "moon boy for all i know" chapters are some of the best parts in all of asoiaf thoughalbeit
Feast and Dance are both like the Jerry Seinfeld joke about the feeling you get in the last 2 minutes of an episode that’s going to end up being a two-parter and you realize there’s no way they can wrap it up in time. But you feel that way for 2000 pages as he keeps tossing new greyjoys and dorishmen
>>217776569I only listen to audiobooks (I have like 600 hours of Fire and Blood) but Roy Dotrice sucks (Sorry old man) so I just haven't listened to the mainline series
>>217775737Aegon V.
>>217776897Retarded. This is on the same level as "how did rick survive through the start of the apocalypse in the hospital? that's hecking unrealistic!"
>>217777064we can no longer be sure whether GRRM meant Cersei to come off as a retard. there is forshadowing of her marrying Euron in a tWoW chapter, so her remaining a primary antagonist appear to be canon. it would be very much like George to think he was writing a strong female character and fuck up catastrophically, just like he thought he was writing Dany to be obivously mad and huge numbers of people failed to notice.
>>217776821Tyrion, Jon and Dany's wheel spinning in ADWD is ridiculous. You enjoyed that more than Jaime in the Riverlands?
>>217776483I literally only care about seeing Stannis win the battle on ice (guaranteed he does), and finding out if the Euron plot goes anywhere, everything else, I could care less
>>217775737Brynden Rivers
>>217777107Rick survived the start of the apocalypse because he was in a ripped-off scene from 28 Days Later that didn't bother explaining how Cillian Murphy survived either.
>>217775725senor, no habla valyrian
>>217776483Yes, but I've given up hope about seeing it finished. Maybe it's better that way, since Martin evidently wrote himself into a corner (or a multitude of corners, really).
>>217776897Those random acts of patronage are literally how it works though, Thoros of Myr lives for years in Westeros on the strength of Robert thinking he was fun to drink with
>>217776031based
>>217777134I think he played it straight just because Tyrion, Jaime and I think even Tywin all either think or say out loud that Cersei isn’t as smart as she thinks she is
Get for Dalt
>>217776611>Don't fucking scream at me you dumbfuck you>look at you with your stupid crown, fucking 48% body fat>and you, you scrawny albino one eyed bastard>fuck you guys
Drank 16 cans of Thatcher's Haze this weekend, very drinkable, very appley, not much of a hangover
>>217777145AyeI don't get the glossing over Jaime He's just not that compelling of a character >I WANT TO FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK CERCI>MOOOOOONBOOOOOOOOOOOY>DID YOU KNOW ABOUT SER ARTHUR DAYNE THE SWORD OF THE MORNING? DID YOU KNOW I USED TO BE HIS SQUIRE!?????>DID YOU JUST FUCKING INSULT THE WENCH OF TARTH! C'MERE YOU!>KINGSLAYER?!..... guess that's all I'll ever be....He's very one noteand he's just trudging along The characters he meets are more interesting than he is I'd rather listen to Brackens bitch about the blackwoods insteadSo yeah I do like Jon and Dany spin their wheels more
Reminder that Aegon is the true son of Rhaegar, Jon Snow is just some bastard that Ned fathered and that Daenerys is some Lyseni street-rat.
>>217777318Stop sniffing glue
>>217777318Rhaegar is a blackfyre?
>>217777318>Daenerys is some Lyseni street-rat.This would be a great twistI wish this would be true
Remember when Jaime mentions the Nights Watch to the blackfish and the Blackfish takes the opportunity to tell everyone he hates Jon too for no reason at all?
>>217777324It's what the fat man would do. He's a contrarian Vietnam baby boomer hippie that hates traditional fantasy.>Aegon arrives in Westeros and quickly unites most of it, is killed by Dany (the false dragon) in the second dance (you don't need special blood to train dragons, Nettles proves this)>Jon Snow is just some stupid naive boy the readers think is some promised prince, instead he just gets shanked and thrown in the freezer>Daenerys is actually the villain, burning down and looting Westeros for the sake of a claim that isn't even hersFatman pussied out when he realized that would burn his HBO royalties.
>>217777358Tully shits are just born haters.
>>217777336That's just the obvious hint George writes to trick the midwits. George planned for a second dance back when writing a game of thrones, this was before the Blackfyres had even been invented. GoT does hint that the body of baby Aegon was a red ruin so no true confirmation on who really died.
>>217776483I already accepted that got tv ending as canon. GRRM will die or become senile first before finishing it.
>>217777312You say he’s one note but then greentext 5 separate notes
>>217775843there is also the fact that Martin already achieved superstardom for a few years anyway, got to see the screen test of porn actress like Sibel kekilli, to be a tv producer of his own book, basically the final dream of any author.In the end he was rewarded for not finishing his book
Why does everyone's accent sound like a northerner's?Even Egg, who's from King's Landing, sounds like one.
>>217776744They are unironically the only good chapters. Brienne's and most of the iron island's stuff are the worst, just screeching the plot to a halt as they aimlessly wander about
>>217775801:0
>>217776429I believe they do..barely, after so many years I suppose they are waiting for martin to make an announcement or to die so they can move on from these books.I myself never read egg and dunk's books, nor do I care personally, I'll wait for the notes about whatever was supposed to be the ending of the main saga
>>217777374That is absolutely not what GURM would do. You’re brainrotted from Tolkien fans or whatever. Aegon being a false dragon with a distant claim to the throne, but uniting most of Westeros and bringing peace despite it, only to be KWAB’d by the actual legitimate Targaryen pretender is GRRM. Jon discovering he is actually the rightful Targaryen king and the promised saviour, but deep down only wanting to be a Stark of Winterfell, so exiling himself to the only place where he felt he belonged, themes of nurture vs nature, is GRRM. Not just randomly dying to “subvert expectations”
>>217776821>Iron Born ChaptersVictarion's autism won alot of people over to the Greyjoys. My favorite is when Asha smiled at him at the Kingsmoat and he immediately assumed she wanted to fuck.
>>217777518Have you read The Meathouse Man?
>>217777457No he doesn’t, are you American?
>>217777343unironically it would be, finding out that dany was just some street rat with zero targ blood in her veins meant to get fucked by drogo and die in the sea of grass but defying it all by fucking up varys's plans with aegon would be kino
>>217777584No
>>217777343>>217777318Do they really have an abundance of valyrian looking mutts in Lys, Myr, Tyrosha and Volantis?I would've thought they're so mixed in those places that they were pretty much rare cases like Shiera's mom.
>>217777622They all look Valyrian in Lys, old city of Volantis as well.>>217777605That book is a good example of what kind of a writer George is.
>>217777622I thought there were prostitutes with white hair and purple eyes in Volantis but maybe I'm misremembering
>>217777216>Yes, but I've given up hope about seeing it finished. Maybe it's better that way, since Martin evidently wrote himself into a corner (or a multitude of corners, really).Martin really just lost his motivation, the man wrote like the speed of light with the first three books because he REALLY wanted to get to the red wedding and knew he wanted to get there.But everything else past that isn't interesting to him and that's the core of the issue, he already got to the part he really wanted to tell
>>217777586Never call me American again you mutt
>>217777726Then you’re just retarded then
>>217776611ignore the dornish agenda
>>217777740Your ears are busted if you hear nothing wrong with Egg saying "disgoosting"
i'm just in the last episode for a few minutes, and, oh Lord, women's in cinema was a mistake.luckily, this will end in less than half an hour.
>>217777801Wow you are actually retarded, Dunk and Egg were putting on silly voices during that scene
Don't mind me>>217777777
What was the point of Quentyn's chapters? I'll I remember from them is >My mother's cousin's roommate's dogwalker was a Targ so I should be able to tame a dragon>Wish I could go home and fuck those twins>Slaves don't like being slaves
>>217778109The dornish are brown larpers who go >WE WUZ DRAGONZ SIR
>>217777457To me, everyone sounds slightly chinese
>>217778109To set up Quentyn's character going forwards>BUT HE'S DE-No, he's alive.
I actually liked the weird accent Misaria did in S1 of HotD
>>217778183which one she had like 3 accents
....semoc eH
>>217778109Quentin is alive, he'll suck on Daenerys feet.
>>217778183if you liked that, you're gonna love the sound of nails on a chalkboard
>>217775690he also appears in the Dunk and Egg comic.
>>217778109>dornish are retards>show the state of essos after dany's bullshit>setup for dorne siding with aegon instead of dany>tragically foolish kid is tragic again
>>217778133They do have the blood of the dragon tho
>>217778253>Quentin is alive
>>217778287I never understood the logic of not sending oberyn to seduce dany and get the alliance and Quentyn to king's landing yes I know the logic was to setup the dornish to oppose dany but damn the dornish are retarded anyway, of all people to pick a fight AGAIN, they will do it with the bitch that has dragons and barely has control of at that
>>217776483I would read the next book but the momentum is lost for me. Ive read so much fan theory at this point nothing would surprise me either probably.
>>217778325So does half of Essos This nigga has more dragon blood than anyone in DorneThe blood of the dragon is plentiful everywhere shit is cheaper than Arbor gold
>>217778346https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF7dbXuGTJY
>>217776744ZAMN CERSAI LOOKS LIKE THAT
>>217778384Legitimate
>>217778109GRRM just needed an excuse to write more edgy misery porn>look all the slaves are being tortured and now the POV character is burning alive - this ain't your typical fantasy story, folks!
Yi Ti is west of Asshai shouldn’t Melissandre look Chinese?
>>217777358WARNING: sperging ahead.>He's a contrarian Vietnam baby boomer hippie that hates traditional fantasy.The idea that GRRM hates traditional fantasy and kills characters to subvert expectations or to show how honor or heroism are stupid is the most midwit take on ASOIAF and the only way someone could believe it after reading the books is if they weren't paying attention. Every major character's death so far has served a clear narrative purpose and had obvious tragic themes.>Ned's death is the classic storytelling device of the young hero's (the Stark children) father figure being killed off to begin their heroes journey, just told from the perspective of the father figure himself, as well as serving the narrative purpose of being the cause of the war of the five kings, and therefore the main plot of the first three books. Ned's story is tragic because he never wants to go south but feels like he has to in order to help his friend Robert and then gets caught up in conspiracies that he is completely unprepared to deal with. >Robb's and Cat's death are another obvious tragedy. Robb is the young heroic king who wins every battle but fails because of a single tragic mistake: trying to be honorable by marrying Jeyne Westerling. Cat is a woman who is slowly driven mad by having almost her entire family taken away from her. All of these deaths are considered tragedies in-universe (see the dedication of the Northmen to Ned's memory and almost everyone's complete contempt for the Freys in ADWD) and nothing about the way these characters or events are written implies that the reader is supposed to look down on these characters or think they 'deserved' their fate (at least in a moral sense). Taking this into account, it's very unlikely that Jon's story will end with him dying with no narrative or thematic conclusion. Dany becoming a villain is possible, but it will almost certainly be written as another tragedy rather than just 'subverting expectations'.
>>217775895>If you want a sweet drink that's also strong, this Fossoway! You can't go wrong>From the North to Dorn, from the Reach to the Vale, people want a drink that will not fail>There's no need to cry no need to pray, all you nerd is Fossoway!>So send a raven or your swiftest rider, to grab yourself a bottle of delicious cider >"Fossoway Cider! A drink fit for the seven."
>>217778504Fuck.>>217777374Obviously meant to reply to this post.
>>217778455Yi Ti is near Muscovy So she's some form of Russian
>>217777358he hates Jon because Catelyn does. If you knew nothing about someone except that your beloved niece hates them so much that she constantly loses sleep over it, you probably wouldn't like them either
>>217778455Why would you assume that essos has the exact same racial composition as asia when valyrians come from there
>>217776611He bore the sword, simple as.
>>217775725>Targs in charge>Less wars>Books literally talk about how population grew by a lot>Common folk got more rights >Rule of law was refined and applied to all fairly >Realm prosperedsimple as
>>217775801hot
>>217778598valyrians come from spaceEveryone in Essos is some form of Brown or Chinkoid. There should be no reason for Blonde Pale Skin ALIENS to appear out of nowwhere
>>217778361I suspect it's the timeskip, that Quentyn was initially meant to be too young and Oberyn was going to be the pick. >of all people to pick a fightMaybe it was meant to be more of a misunderstanding >dorne out for blood as aegon lands early>side with him without realising he's not on dany's side>take kings landing shortly before dany shows up and acts like a targshit
>>217777567For me it's when a random peasant laughed at him for saying he was going to sail the great grass sea so Victarion crushed his skull.
>>217778504No, you're ignoring George's life and his previous work. Robb isn't heroic, he fails continously due to ignoring his mother. He sends Theon to Balon, pisses off the Freys, Karstarks and is weak enough for Bolton to conspire with Tywin.Why does Ned die? Makes for a good story. That's why. Martin fucking took a two year break from GoT to create that dogshit Doorways TV pilot and only went back when it wasn't picked by the Network. I don't mean that being a good person is bad but Martin certainly hates the trope of the good prince/king that saves everything and everyone lives happily after. He hates monarchy, nobility and inequality. If Jon is a Targ bastard then it will only serve to create yet another civil war. We could expect the books to end with some move towards elective monarchy or meritocracy like the show. That's how Windhaven ends. The citadel would also likely open for everyone, including women.
>>217778649Valyrians are actually the result of fishy rapey men. Or at least they were their preferred targets. The irony of the great empire of the dawn is that it wasn’t even human. The Yi-Tish are bullshitting themselves.
TAOOBA
Alright, who are George's self-inserts besides Sam and Quentyn?
>>217778692For me it's when he set fire to a ship full of sex workers, and commiserated at how fortunate they were to be given a fate that allowed two gods to vie for their souls.
>>217778794Gyldayn. I think.
>>217775895>>217776166
>>217778649>Essos are all chinkoidsWhat about the qaathi, the andals and the bloodless men (also the first men originated there)
>>217778818Is he an insecure ugly virgin? Not sure if it's George then.
>>217775737he did, but he was disappointed to learn the girls were only hebes
>>217778806For me, it's when he captured another ship of sex slavers, killed the slavers, shared the female prostitutes between himself and his crew, after telling them they should consider lucky because they will service a single man as saltwives rather than thousands of men in a brothel, and he had the effeminate boys and twinks among the sex workers thrown to the sea because he sees them as abominations
>>217778794Probably Asha since she’s always right about everything
>>217778926For me, it's when he gets done plowing the dusky woman, bitches about Euron for ten minutes, threatening murder and vengeance, then immediately goes back to plowing her again.
>>217778649Yeah, imagine the TargARYANS coming from the east instead of somewhere like Europe-based Westeros. It's so unrealistic.
>>217779013I remember reading a theory that the dusky woman is actually euron, I'm really wondering if grrm would go there
>>217778794Rodrik the Reader is exactly the kinda of self-insert grrm would do
>>217779065I'm not sure Euron has it in him to be tongueless.
>>217778649Nah they just genetically engineered themselves with dragon blood.
Really Jon going to Hardhome in the show sort of spoils his assassination since the perfect time to mutiny would be when he’s stuck on the wrong side of the wall with all the wildlings
>>217778779When is he coming back bros?
>>217777093You mean Aegon IV>>217777162Shiera doesn't count.
>>217779240At the appointed hour, with haste
>>217775924Bananas and rice.
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>>217778649The original pale dragon people came from an island off the eastern coast of Essos, who next settled Asshai and then most of eastern essos (bloodless men, winged men, these are pale dragon people), building the five forts to protect their lands from the rising young human kingdoms. When the empire fell a few survivors found their way to Valyria and mixed with the shepards
>>217779013For me it's when he randomly became a poet sailing to Mereen and waxing poetic about how he was going to save Dany.
>>217776420With the amount of sugar in them, and the amount that you have to drink just to get even a slight buzz, it makes my stomach feel like I just ate a whole bowl of cake icing or something.
>>217779318I want my fair fill of war crimes next season, its not clear to me at all why riverlanders are allowed to *exist* in our fair realm
>>217779418They were actually fish people. Not humans. Nothing points to them being human.
>>217779240Will he claim to be the king now with Aegon missing and Maelor not existing?
ATTENTION!You have been reborn in the land of Westeros.What sex? (no trans)What year? (not before 1AC or after 285AC) What family/kingdom?a) Commoner (a loving family)b) Minor house (maybe loving)c) Major house (as above)d) Bastard (choose which house / loving adoptive family optional)e) Filthy peasant (could be anything)What special attribute? a) Political + social savvy (Littlefinger tier)b) Fighting/killing potential (Jaime or Barristan tier)c) Polymath level intellect (all the maester links are easy grabs)What other skills? (take two)a) Luck (less likely to die, better health, magic more likely to work, etc)b) Romance* (see below)c) Magic** (see below)d) Strength (Mountain tier, but does not equate to fighting ability)e) Adventure (guaranteed life of danger and excitement / be careful) f) Money (early on you get rich / not as great if you aren’t already poor)* (pick one / male or female)1. adventurous Riverlander you meet in your youth / first taste of young love 2. sandy Dornish thief who tried robbing your ass / sex happens no matter what 3. red haired Wildling warg who managed to get over the Wall / incredible archer 4. a gorgeous noble of the Reach takes a liking to you / risky if you aren’t a noble 5. tall exotic seafarer of Lengii descent / eventually will sail back east (you can go with)6. custom / go wild, be creative** (choose one)1. Prophecy (dreams, looking into flames, etc / mostly accurate )2. Alchemy (natural concoctions as well as unnatural ones, ie wildfire, sorcerously enhanced poisons, etc)3. Skinchanging (pick an animal type you are bonded to / become associated and likened with)4. Valyrian steel sword (alternatively, a slab of unworked Valyrian steel with the knowledge of how to reforge it)5. Glass candle (it will take a decade to figure out how to light — but once you do, you’re basically a wizard )6. Faceless man’s favor (at some point in your life you can are given three “favors”)
>>217779418If george really won't finish asoiaf he should at least make cool short stories around the world and expand the canon lore for us autists
>>217779418>Carcosa
>>217779524PRINCE REGENT AEMOND would never take away the title of his dear eldest brother after he tragically fell in battle while bravely fighting against the mighty Meleys and the whore grandma who rode her.
Why is it always Carcosa and never Leng?
>>217779538Very high effort anon good work. I’ll do it later.
>>217779617Carcosa, Leng and Kadath are all places in the far east
>>217779538Male37 ACHightowerPolymath level intellectLuckValyrian steel swordez
>>217778820Based.
>>217776176yes, for younger audience they'll have it be 6 vs 7 and they'll have Egg do the " six seven " hand gesture
>>217775895>"Ugh! This northern pisswater is making my taste buds pay the Iron Price!">"Try Fossoway Cider, friend. You might find it's the apple of your eye... or should I say, your mouth.">*sip* "Seven Hells! Mine own thirst is irrevocably quenched!">"That's right, you Can't Toss the Foss. It's the drink of choice for every red-blooded Westerosi... except for, of course, faggot ass cornholing Targaryens like assaulted my puppeteer. They should FUCKING die!">*entire tavern cheers*>Caaaan't Toooooss the Foooossssss
>>217777459>Filtered by Brienne in FeastNgmi
>>217779956>except for, of course, faggot ass cornholing Targaryens like assaulted my puppeteer. They should FUCKING die!Philposting is never not funny
>>217779418>Bonetown
>>217778706Being a hippie boomer and liking traditional fantasy are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I think George is stuck between the two: his late-20th century boomer politics on one hand and his love for the aesthetics of traditional fantasy on the other. I'm sure that he thinks that monarchy, nobility, and inequality are bad (at least in the real world) and he is trying to deconstruct them on some level, but the details of the setting reveal what he thinks is cool. Almost all of his characters are the highest or second highest level of nobility, so many characters are described as being 'beautiful' or 'tall' or 'strong', the lore is full of almost superhuman swordsman, various characters wouldn't be out of place in shounen anime etc. I don't believe he wrote hundreds of pages of fictional history in Fire and Blood as a manifesto on why monarchy is a bad system of governance. He clearly thinks white-haired, purple-eyed, dragon-riding superhumans are cool, just like he thinks that 6'5"+ warriors, and magic swords, and noble children who have a magical connection with their pet wolves are cool. Even Dunk and Egg, which is smaller scale, ends with Dunk reaching the highest level of knighthood because he's so strong and noble. George might well try to end the series with some kind of progressive message where Westeros embraces feminism and liberal democracy but to say that he 'hates' traditional fantasy is just wrong. At best he's stuck in a contraction that he doesn't realise.
>>217780321>contraction*contradiction
>>217779538>190 AC>Filthy Peasant>Fighting>Strength>Valyrian Steel SwordOperation save Baelor is a go.
>>217779538See the fact about picking special attributes. Do I become stupider if I pick b)?Do I become smarter and stop being myself if I pick c)?The point of Isekai is that mentally I'm still myself, is it not?
>>217779538Male. 275.B. Minor house. House Upcliff. C. Valyrian steel link for magic. Silver for medicine. Bronze for astronomy.A. C. Magic is a dick. I need the luck. 5. Alchemy. It goes hand in hand with medicine, poison making, potions, etc. I will sponsor the alchemists guild and get into the good graces of Marwyn the mage for access to further knowledge. Dabbling in hidden lore and volatile substances. I will also try to procure amounts of shade of the evening from Qarth. Perhaps I may start an exotic trend amongst the occult inclined nobility, however few in number.
I just saw what Ira Parker looks like and yep, just like I thought, definitely a scat fetishist.
>>217780567>Do I become stupider if I pick b)?Are you asking if you’re stupid for not being a literal genius?
>>217780567Yes you are yourself. If you assume you aren’t yourself then there’s no point in the game. You aren’t stupid if you don’t take polymath, it just means you’re a polymath if you decide to take it.
>>217779538Why should I take magic when magic is evil and also a pedophile (there is no other reason the Varys ritual worked)
>>217779538>Male >Born: 223 AC>Redwyne >c>a & b>Romance: 5I just wanna grow and sell wine and sail the sea>
>>217780223>Bonetown is situated just north of the Dry Deep, southwest of the Cannibal Sands, and east of the Land of the Shrykes. The city of K'Dath is to the northwest.>Bonetown may be named after its trade in strange, aged bones found in the nearby Dry Deep. It is also told that the town is made entirely of bones.
Can we get a TV show set in Essos with wizards n shit?
>>217780719>and also a pedophileThe children of the forest make so much sense now
>>217780765Magic only recently returned. The golden age of magic was long ago. When Valyria was at its height. Even in Qarth talk of magic was practically dead before the red comet came. Only in Asshai was it alive. Even then, the Doom is a magic hellhole. Something the Valyrians did really shook magic to its core. Globally.
>>217780832Magic never left. It was weaken, but it was always there.
>>217780832>Something the Valyrians did really shook magic to its core. Globally.It’s already bizarre enough that magic would favor them for so long; to the point where they had legitimate sorcerous infrastructure and probably acted the part of the gods the same way the green seers did
>>217780765Maybe if it is set during Valyrian times it could work.
>>217780849It returned relatively. Relatively speaking, it was “dead”, before then. But yes it was still around. In pockets. It’s possible that magic went away gradually rather than immediately, given the Targaryen dragons were shrivelling up over time. Might also be maesters poisoning them, but who can say for sure. The faceless men would have still been around. I do wonder if the masks were starting to lose effectiveness around this time.
>>217780881They canned that. They tried to turn it (Valyria) into an allegory for modern day America. It would have black Valyrians up the ass. It wouldn’t look Valyrian. It would also ruin the mystery if shown. Consider Volantis. No one who doesn’t have Valyrian blood is allowed behind its black walls. Where did this custom come from? If I had to guess, only dragon lords were allowed in the most exclusive parts. Maybe even entire cities.
>>217779538Male135ACBastard of PeakeFightingAdventure + MoneySandy Dornish sex slaveVS sword
>>217780951It’s highly probable that the Black Walls of Volantis serve as a direct callback to the rigid, segregationist culture of the Valyrian Freehold, where elite dragonlord families kept themselves apart from the lower classes and slaves.
the norf has fallen...
>>217780719Magic should be risky. Cutting edge science is dangerous, too. Poking at the unknown should be done carefully.
>>217781034Imagine if Cersei pulled this card. “Clearly your wife isn’t being faithful either ;)”
>>217776216The 3rd KG has been there since Episode 2. Stop looking at your phone.
>>217780998You took 2 too many choices there, bud.
>>217781034I only pledge to the First fuarkin' Men
>>217781034>>217781080might be tarding but isn't Cat a red head in the books?
>>217781507Yes. The point is both Ed and Robert aren’t.
>>217781507Yes, and isn't Cersei blonde?See the argument now?
>>217781521The difference is that Robert fathered SIXTEEN other children with women of different hair colors, including blondes, and they all came out with his signature Baratheon look. That's why Jon Arryn went looking for Robert's bastards, because he wanted a larger sample size than just Cersei
>>217775725Fossoway? More like Pozzoway
>>217778806>sex workers
HHHYRRRK!
Having Rhea just fall off the horse and get paralyzed so Daemon can kinda finish her off was such a weird choice, in retrospect
>>217779418what map is this, it looks good i want the full thing
>>217775655THE LORD OF ASHFORD FUCKS HIS SHEEP!
I FUCK BRONZE BITCHES
>>217782582Daemon was so fucking gay for this
>>217782286>in retrospectFor you maybe. The general view here at the time was it was retarded in how their confrontation was done.
rewatching game of thronesat season 3 right nowit still hurts broswe couldve had it all if only the fat retard bastard finished his fucking books
>>217782786The books yeah, the show would have still suckedNobody forced them to make Euron into whatever show Euron was, the book was right there.Nobody forced them to do a ton of dumb stuff in season 5 in fact
>>217775725is there any thing said about valerian religion and if the targaryens practiced it in westeros? or did they just assimilate in the aspect?
>>217781034I think it has something to do with the fact that the Baratheon black hair ALWAYS dominated.
>>217782409Left is grrm's, right is Michael Moorcock's Elric series. It's hard to find a high quality map. I've read the comics which Moorcock says is good, I read the Eternal Champion (the ending is very weird) and I'd recommend them if you want sword and sorcery fun.
>>217782822the Valyrians had a bunch of gods (and adopted the gods of some of the people they conquered out of novelty) but by the time of the Doom the nobility was too decadent and hubristic to take any religion seriouslyBalerion, Vhagar and Meraxes were all named after Valyrian gods, apparently
>>217782815youre rightactual worst fucking timelinei hope that rat fuck is having regrets every day for not finishing the books i hope it haunts him
>>217782903>the weeping waste>the sighing desert>the cringing sea
>>217782822Aegon the Conqueror converted to the Faith of the Seven. The Faith rebelled under his sons, and Maegor tried to brutally supress it. I say tried rather than fully successful given King Jaehaerys basically negotiated with the Faith to finally end it. It was agreed Targaryens could only have 1 spouse at a time but, they could practice incest. From what we see in the show Daemon and Rhaenyra married in Valyrian tradition, but there is no proliferation of the religion into Westeros or syncretism with the Faith. Unless sticking to the Valyrian religion somehow keeps dragons*, it is just logically to convert to the Faith for politics of legitimacy. *which there does not really seem to be: confining dragons in small spaces seems to be what stunted their health and the Dance killing off thd population rather than whatever religion they followed, there seems to be perhaps the reasoning for incest being necessary but again all that is vague and can fall apart in how strong it actually is.
>>217782822The Targs practiced it until the conquest where Aegon and his sisters converted to the Seven after they took over Oldtown.
Aerion was totally justified
>>217783092Of course he was, by drinking wildfire he removed one targshit from the world, he did nothing wrong in that instance
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>>217775725fuckers didn't even have the secret to building those indestructible dragonroads
