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>>217779187Great performance form Thwelis.
>>217779187Joker if it was good
>>217779187Kino movie made by a director who goes out of his way to make his movies as un-kino as humanly possible.
Years ago when I first watched it I called it "Thom Yorke's Raping Adventure"
>>217779831Featuring David Byrne raping his tenants
>>217779865letting the days go by!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leigh
interesting movie for sure. I identified with the poster mam
He is literally me. Immediately clocking and then seducing insecure slags and then getting violent with them during sex despite their protests is my signature move.
This movie triggers women on letterboxd so hard.
I got up and yelled kino at the ending. One of the best.
>I don't know what they want from you half the time. What they start off liking you for, they end up hating you for. Don't like you if you're strong. Don't like you if you're weak. Hate you if you're clever, hate you if you're stupid. They don't know what they want.
>>217780580I don't blame them. It's a great movie but I'm not sure what message you're supposed to take away from it except that Johnny is a narcissistic rapist but he has more humanity than Sebastian so we should feel bad for him.
Loved it and I considered it a favorite for a long time. I haven't rewatched it in ages because it kind of brings up memories of trying to get retarded normie friends to like it, and failing.
>>217780781The message I got out of it was that maybe there's some sort of tenderness in life that be a salve on all of the pain, but you're probably just going to fuck it up anyway. Johnny and Sandra talk about getting married and moving back to Manchester at the end of the film but then Johnny just steals the money and leaves. Society is shit and there's nothing you can do about that but also you're shit and there's also probably nothing you can do about that either.
>>217780781The point is that rape is good
>>217779187Just one of those "look here is an irredeemable horrible guy but the movie is about him so there is some cool aura connected to him" movies. I never was into the "sympathize with an unlikable retard asshole" genre, but assholes like it.
>>217780973Yeah it's about people extending a branch to Johnny and him repeatedly choosing to hurt them. I just don't get what purpose Sebastian served except to show that their are worse people than Johnny so we feel more empathetic towards him.
>>217781048I don't really get a cool aura from him. He,'s a total predator and a pseud. Hid rants are teenager edgy nonsense and he lashes out at anyone who shows him any warmth. In the last act he's reduced to blubbering mess rolling around crying after getting beaten up. He's pathetic. But he reminds me too much of myself and what I'm capable of at my worst. The ending is painful because I can see myself blowing all my chances at redemption as Johnny does.
>>217781048Just curious, you think of yourself as "not an asshole", correct?
>>217781072I feel like they're basically the same, it's just that Sebastian has more capability/opportunity for shitty behavior because of he's rich
>>217781235I couldn't give less of a shit what you are curious about, bitch.
>>217781292So you think this is what a "not an asshole" type of person acts?kek
>>217781048I think you're supposed to feel a little empathy for Johnny but ultimately to realize that he's irredeemable
>>217780985The point is that it's ok to rape if you steal a car after
>>217781315I didn't answer your question, you did in your head. I am not responsible for what a bitch like you thinks. To you this will make it seem like I am an asshole, but that only goes to show.
>>217779187Anything else in the "follow a weirdo around for three days" genre?
>>217781348Sure that may be. But it's just not entertaining. If you want to see an irredeemable asshole ride the subway for 10 minutes. Why go to the movies for it?
>>217781363>I didn't answer your questionYou sure fucking did nigger.Now go ahead, report me.
>>217779795His 90s movies are incredibly kino though. Life Is Sweet and Naked especially.
>>217781389Bitches like you are a dime a dozen, don't even register. Go think yourself into a frenzy, as your kind is wont to do.
>>217781380The guy on the subway doesn't have a two hour narrative film surrounding him to give context to his actions and to move me emotionally and cause me to ruminate
>>217781414You responded to each of my posts. I register fantastically.And you think you're not an asshole. That's the funniest part. You think you're a cool, nice guy.
>>217780781Your problem is thinking there's supposed to be a "message" in the first place. Like you're expecting the film maker to be communicating to you specifically.Sometimes, It's not about you. For fuck's sake.
>>217781366Adrift in Tokyo.Both it, and naked are some of my all time fave movies, but it's completely different tonally.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1098226/
>>217780781>I'm not sure what message you're supposed to take away from itWell, the guy is full of himself, he is a loser and a generally awful person. Ecce Homo, the movie. He is like me, but more entertaining, maybe because he is unapologetic. All the other people are not much better, but boring.
>>217781429You are the kind of guy who starts to sperg out because some stranger on 4chan doesn't like Spike Lee's "Naked" (tm), so you can surely understand I don't mind you at all - i really just reply for the pleasure of knowing the blood pressure of some bitch is rising somewhere thanks to almost zero effort of mine.
>>217781422That's the thing. If that guy moves you emotionally in any way than towards disgust you are too much like him and should suffer the same fate.
>>217781429>I register fantasticallyDo you register fantastically, saar? Show vagine!
Mike Leigh is a bit like Kurosawa if he were an English communist
>>217781535>You are the kind of guy who starts to sperg out because some stranger on 4chan doesn't like Spike Lee's "Naked" (tm)It's your own prerogative whether you like it or not, I just think this is the funniest case of the pot calling the kettle black I have ever witnessed in my life.> i really just reply for the pleasure of knowing the blood pressure of some bitch is rising somewhere thanks to almost zero effort of mine.Keep at it, I'm almost there.>>217781597We don't have to speak in the same 30 meme phrases, you know. Let me guess, slav?
>>217779187it's so clear that the director is a male feminist and the whole plot is just massive projection>dude all men just want sadistic and degrading sex, society just fails to restrain themthe whole 90s counterculture ethos that the main character spews is incredibly dated and hard to take seriously when it's presented as sharp and witty
And for my next tic... that
>>217781665Reply
>>217781696One more, please daddy.
>>217781686>dude all men just want sadistic and degrading sex, society just fails to restrain themThis seems to be true, look at Epstein. And it doesn't come across as a feminist film, it makes the male characters sympathetic.
>>217781686>>dude all men just want sadistic and degrading sexThis rings true, it's just that nowadays they want to be on the receiving end for the most part.
>>217781719Are you saying you don't register fantastically anymore?
>>217781686>when it's presented as sharp and wittyRetard. You're supposed to be exhausted by Johnny's longwinded pseudointellectual rants. You aren't supposed to be impressed.
>>217781738I mean we're, what, 6 replies in, and you're telling me that I don't register. At this point we might as well be married, I mean something to you.
>>217781761I am sure you wish you did.
>>217781761I just got that you don't even realize that "I register fantastically" is not a sentence someone capable of speaking English would use. Nevermind, Abdul.
>>217781686I took it more as being about how vulnerable working class women are and how desperate they are that they're willing to give chances to guys like Johnny because their alternatives are even worse. Sebastian is a bourgeois man who is able to be a super predator and take advantage of any of the prole women.
>>217781813Did watching it entertain you though? I am a Mike Leigh fan even and I think he is very capable of entertaining, but this just felt so tedious.
>>217779187Documentary about my life
>>217781781I don't have to wish for it when you're delivering it and I expect you'll continue for at least 5 posts.>>217781806You shouldn't try to school others on things you have a poor grasp of.
>>217781850As I said, nevermind. Sorry for making you emotional. Let's let other talk about the movie and you just keep "registering fantastical".
>>217781877I don't need an apology, if anything I should apologize to you for using a slur. I'd just love you to ruminate on whether a film portraying asshole behaviour means the film is for assholes.Does that mean Godzilla is for giant lizards and The Departed is for criminals?
>>217781366Minnie & Moskowitz gives you two weirdos for the price of one.
>>217781366Five Easy Pieces kinda.
>>217781486>>217782001Thanks>>217782030Been a long time since I've seen it but imagine the fuckers who find the Thewlis character hard to take dealing with Nicholson's.
>>217779865top fucking kek, I knew he looked familiar
>>217781877This pic always makes me laugh like an absolute retard
