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>nostalgia bait
>no courier
>shat on NW story
>two worst plotlines stole 20% of the screen time and got no resolutions (Steph and Norm)
>resurrected Mr House for zero reason
>shit ton of plot holes
>dumb dialogues
>unnecessary brotherhood plotline
>bitch short haired woman steals the most important relic on the planet and gets away with it
>enclave supposedly was active all that time after the war
>GFX are shit

Remind me, why normies liked this again?
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>>217782655
>Remind me, why normies liked this again?
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I don't know what people expected. Season 2 sounds exactly like the first season, but with infinitely more 'member berries.
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this is made for nu-male goycattle that like to point at stuff and say "i recognize that!!!" and then blow hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on retarded products.
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>character is about to get shot
>assailant is taken out just in time
I'm waiting for the mysterious stranger to show up any second
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>>217782658
also, id like to point out that these people peaked in middle school. not even high school.
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>>217782655
Did none of those things and it was pretty good actually. Not falling for /v/ - Reactionary Videogame Lies anymore
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>>217782658
So true sister!!! I just bought my epic and #Based fiftieth gacha pull this week and redpilled goonerfigs to totally own the DEI slop consoomers!
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I love Stephanie! Steph! Steph! Steph!
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>>217782659
>season 3
>Lucy and Max are in really deep shit, not a single thing they can do to survive
>a familiar jingle can be heard chiming in the distance
>the mysterious stranger shows up and saves the day
>close up on his face right before he disappears
>it's fucking Todd Howard
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>>217782661
Are you genuinely retarded
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>>217782661
Ywnbaw
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>>217782655
>BUT THE SHOW IS GO-ACK
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>>217782662
what? that shit is literally what i am critiquing. what is the difference?
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>>217782667
>HERES A GIF OF ME BEATING YOU UP I’M SO BASED AND CORRECT
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>>217782669
Yes.
The show is dogshit.
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>>217782655
>show references it's own universe; this is bad
>show doesn't reference a specific character; this is bad
>i didn't personally like the plot; this is bad
>they brought back a character that people like; this is bad
>the story isn't being completely explained to me all at once and I have to wait to see where they are going with it; this is bad
>the dialogue isn't oscar worthy; this is bad
>i don't get this plotline, so it's useless; this is bad
>i don't get this plotline; this is bad
>they are changing parts of the story and i don't like that because i am unable to acknowledge the possibility that this fictional world might change; this is bad
>I hate this but I am deeply invested in it for some reason; this is bad

I don't understand the point of all this crying. What's the point?
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>>217782667
Source on WebM? I see Koreans, I see color grading, I watch.
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>>217782671
>the bad thing is bad
>I don't understand it
Sorry, you must have 3 digits IQ
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Was Bethesda involved in the production of this show? Season 2 really feels like the producers hated all the lore that Fallout 1, 2 and NV established but uses it anyway for it's setting because Fallout 3, 4 and 76 haven't produced a single faction or character that is even half as interesting as the legion, house, ncr, caesar or graham.
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>>217782655
Amazon series adaptations are set in alternate timeline, not the same timeline as the games. Will have same/similar setting and characters as the video game source material but will differ wildly in terms of plot and have an original story, hence different canon and alternate timeline.

See also the Yakuza adaptation
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>>217782655
Why is it so hard to just make a normal TV show? Not everything has to be Game of Thrones+Rick & Morty. Its okay to follow one character and have them as well as the people they meet treat the world around them sincerely as if they actually live in it instead of acting like isekai'd cartoon caricatures all the time. Is there a name for this weird screenwriting dementia everyone is suffering from now?
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>>217782670
No
The show is peak

YWNHAW (You will never have a wife)
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>>217782677
What in the flying fuck are you even talking about
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>>217782663
But she’s Canadian.
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>>217782675
>shits all over the old lore
>dude fucking whacky liberty prime the northern and the enclave once again even though it makes no sense or it’s the most minuscule and dumbest shit possible (LP)
Everyday I think Todd is an increasingly passive aggressive bitch
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>>217782655
>Tactics is CANON
>Colorado is coming
>Enclave is THRIVING AND ALIVE and has listening posts listening to the entire wasteland plotting their comeback
ENCLAVEBROS HOW WE FEELING
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>>217782677
Women.
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Obsidian made Avowed and The Outer Worlds. I hope Season 3 shits on them even more.
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>>217782674
100 atoms have been deposited into your account.
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>>217782684
Did you forget last 2 (3, actually) Bethesda's games?
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>>217782664
Legitimately kino.
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>>217782679
Fucking astrophysics and economics I guess retard.
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>>217782686
Don’t really care. Obsidian made Avowed and The Outer Worlds. I fully support the show.
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>>217782686
I am familiar with Bethesdakino and /v/‘s incorrect takes on it yes
I will never kneel to hbomberguy video essays or Obsidiniggers
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>>217782671
Ending it on a cliffhanger that was teased in the trailer is gay. The pacing is bad, don't forget that one.
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>>217782689
Lil bro you're supporting a much worse entity
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>>217782677
It's because everyone copied Joss Whedon, when really, the only one allowed to write like Joss Whedon, should be Joss Whedon.
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>Season 2 trailer
>"There is a war coming"
in season 3.
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>>217782692
How is Bethesda worse?
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>>217782672
I think it's from a film with Ma Dong-seok.
unstoppable or the gangster.
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>>217782695
Starfield, 76, arguably 4 are worse than Awoved and OW2
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>>217782682
The Enclave died on the Oil Rig and at Adams AFB. You're no "bro" of mine, mutie bastard.
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>>217782692
>Obsidian “I HATE WHITE MEN” Art director
>Bethesda Good Christian White Southie boy Emil and Chess Club Todd who literally put white Christian propaganda in Fallout 3 and starfield and made Skyrim, the greatest gift to sex and porn modding of all time that I can even play in VR and live with a AI-chat powered hyper BBW version of my wife Y’shtola
Nah I know who to support.
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>>217782697
But Avowed and OW2 are woke.
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>>217782697
In your dreams. I don't even like Bethesda games, the only half amusing thing they put out was Oblivion, and mostly for the wrong reasons.
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>>217782700
Starfield is woke, also the show is woke too if you didn't notice, dunno about 76.
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>>217782693
And whedon is and will always be capable of nothing more than writing for the juvenile and mollified nonsense of western comic book tier stories. Including and especially firefly. Basically. His tone and style is dogass
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>>217782697
>Starfield, 4 are worse than Awoved and OW2
BAHAHAHAHA no
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>>217782655
So Fallout is just forever fucked to be "Generic Post-Apocalypse" IP forever, right?
Seeing the NCR return and twitter clapping like seals but nobody understanding WHY they were so good to the world building and themes of the games was really pathethic.

I've seen a post saying "New Vegas fans don't like Fallout, just New Vegas" and yeah... Yeah they're right.

I wanted to like Fallout thinking it couldv'e been the post-apocalyptic version of GoT. I got into this shit expecting it was art not product. If being a true Fallout fan just means auro moments and zero depth then I'm outta here.
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>>217782702
>dunno about 76.
They give you a speech about diversity before you leave the vault.
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>>217782702
How is the show woke?
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>>217782684
Bethesda shillers are the most humiliated of all by the show, its finally put the nail in the coffin of the Fallout 3 is good meme.
Imagine making such a shit pair of games that the show wont even touch them and has to go and mine New Vegas to try come up with anything vaguely interesting
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>>217782656
Pretty fun show with a lot of fan service
>Not for unhinged autistic fans that can't help Lore dumping
but for normies this show is pretty peak and pretty comfy
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>>217782705
It was never those things. Not even Fallout 1-2. You are a fake fan that New Vegas fans lied to about the franchise. If you want Game of Thrones go to GoT. I read Scott Campbell’s original vision statement on FO1 and New Vegas is an outlier, stop being a butthurt troon and go back to Warhammer, which is also “hype moments and aura” by the way
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>>217782674
1000 bezos epstein coin has been deposited to your account.
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>>217782708
>its finally put the nail in the coffin of the Fallout 3 is good meme.
Imagine making such a shit pair of games that the show wont even touch them and has to go and mine New Vegas to try come up with anything vaguely interesting
The show literally ends teasing Enclave, Liberty Prime and Tactics/East Coast lore.
Bethesda leaves the East so fucking ambiguous because they want to leave it completely wide open for shit decades from now.
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>>217782741
>unhinged autistic fans
so people that actually play and care about the source material?
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>>217782707
The black woman leading NCR army in the last episode wasn't enough for you?
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kek get fucked /v/irgins
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>>217782685
>>217782773
The Raped
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>>217782686
Fallout 4 mogs anything wokesidian has made in the last 15 years
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I just don't like Fallout 4 because it doesn't feel like a fucking game. Theres no progression (skills perks and special being smooshed into single tree) at all and everything feels like it might lead to something potentially interesting.
The radiant quests which are virtually worthless, the whole settlement system- which should have been just one town or inside rooms at other towns (i think its ill advised, considering that the rest of the game locations now consist of these "building blocks" making everything extremely same, I digress) feels if you keep paying into it you'll have a payoff. Same with the Power Armor and weapon mods. Unlike in FNV, weapon mods are created through scrap instead of found or purchased. This means that character progression is tied into how much crap you pick up, rather than adventuring, making choices, meeting cool or unique npcs. Now its the sims build mode but garbitch and trash collecting. I honestly truly wish I could enjoy terrible media the same way as they do. I've played hundreds of hours of Fallout 4 and I honestly wish I could go back in time and tell myself that I don't have to play it and that it really IS as terrible as you thought the day you saw the trailer and Nate talked.
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>>217782749
Fallout 2 had inklings of depth but for every intresting idea like Vault City or the rise of the NCR you had really retarded shit like friendly talking Deathclaws and San Francisco.
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>>217782817
You’re a tourist.
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>>217782655
it should be illegal to make live action shows or films based on video games
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>>217782889
Dictator Tandi
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>>217782889
It was different back then.
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>>217782889
But Tandi is actually based THOUGH
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>>217782942
She got raped by Khans
I don't see how that validates the black squad leader
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>>217782873
Ridiculous opinion. Gameplay wise, Fo4 is the most actual game of all the fallout games. It’s just the writing that’s kinda weak (but far harbor is kino thobeit)
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>>217782655
The biggest problem was it's atrocious pacing. If it had the progression speed of the first one, we'd now be at episode 3 or 4 with everything that has happened.
I guess the writers were told to drag the fucking shit out of it since we gotta have 5 more fucking seasons now that the first was successful.
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>>217782995
How does it feel to be a secondary?
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>>217782995
>fo4's writing
>kinda weak
kinda? that shit was pure ass
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>>217782705
>I wanted to like Fallout thinking it couldv'e been the post-apocalyptic version of GoT
Holy shit, kys
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>>217782700
>>217782702
I thought Elon Musk and Donald Trump killed woke?
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>>217782873
You say this like any of the restrictions in FNV make it hard which is not remotely the case lol. NV is still piss easy to breeze through. Stop pretending your baby game is harder than Fo4.
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>>217782873
It's typical bethesda slop only this time instead of making towns they want the players to make settlements that will be populated by nameless settler npcs. Of course, in bethesda fashion, the settlement building is awful and completely breaks the game.
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>>217782655
I don't hate the show. It's just very flat and safe.
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>>217782995
Theres nothing to look forward to, perks got turned into skills. And a lot of them are filler. The FPS combat is dime a dozen and lackluster while the RPG part got shallower as well. It lost gameplay. Fo1 and 2 had handmade quests and locations, perks, traits, skills, karma, titles, reputation. To put it simply to you. GTA SA has more gameplay than GTA 5 because much of it is higher quality for its time.
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>>217782680
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YOU'RE INDIAN
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>>217783086
I never said it was hard dick ass. All Fallout games are easy because I'm an adult. I don't even consider difficulty when assessing merit in vidya. Any challenge is eventually surmountable, how does it feel actually accomplishing the task? Am I having fun?
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>>217782690
I miss when shitesda had soul (and jeremy)
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>>217782705
I mean it is already known that their next fallout will garbage but imagine how much worse and nothing it will be now that the show is canon and it'll follow everything from whatever happens.
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I will say that Fallout 3 is a much better game than 4, because 3 actually has a game world with unique stuff inside.
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>>217782702
76 is fun but they refuse to put an actual full developement team on it and instead do shit like hire an EA monetization guy who can't even monetize shit properly and successfully to say his faggot life
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>>217782655
Normies onlh liked season 1, season 2 went full member berries that only players would understand
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I just realized why the show sucks. They're basing everything around the 76 lore and no one with a brain actually plays that trash, yet it somehow still gets expacs and must have some kind of player base. And all the people who only played Fallout Shelter.
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>>217783262
What aspect of 76 lore is even in this show?
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>>217783219
Last I checked, normies are still digging this show
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Why would Caesar send his army through a chokepoint when they could just walk around it?
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>>217783262
Pretty sure they've based it off new vegas "lore" pal, which is where its fucking set.
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>>217782655
Damn this plot is so intricate its been a blast just asking Gemini all the things I missed like what The Enclave is and is House an AI and stuff like that. I didn't even really realize The Enclave planted those Deathclaws there.

This is me a normie so if you are shocked people as dumb as me love the show then hello hi I am here.
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>>217782794
DESU not that anon but the fans of this property have to be the biggest cunts I have ever seen , this show is so awesome with good characters, they have good ethics and interesting goals and nice special effects with lots of different settings, deep lore to investigate into

All you ever hear is complaining. What a bunch of retards. Just go watch The Traitors or Bluey or something.
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>>217782837
we get it you watch charls carrol you are 2intellegent4me
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>>217783574
>this show is so awesome with good characters, they have good ethics and interesting goals and nice special effects with lots of different settings, deep lore to investigate into
Please expand on this.
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>>217783574
Oh hi todd
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>>217782655
It's a shit, insulting show.
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why are all the white people in this show portrayed as evi/mutant/ghouls/dead/zealots/nazis
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>>217782667
I'm so fucking grateful I'm White.
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>>217783946
It's their culture
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>>217784049
>pic
chud melty incoming
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>>217783262
I’ve seen all the Fallout games EXCEPT 76 get plenty of lore referenced in this show.
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>>217783946
Norm and Chet are normal.
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>>217782889
But that's an Indian
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>>217783367
cuz hes a dumb fashy with a toomer lol
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>>217784820
>bwos i witterally basedpogged when I saw they referenced the thing you see two minutes after starting the game!!! They really do love the fans!!!
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>>217782889
>>217784843
Delicious brown tomboy
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>>217783574
Trvke
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>>217784800
Norm is an incel and Chet is a cousin fucker
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>>217784800
norm is a short scrawny man who gets choked out by a taller brown man

chet is pussywhipped
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>>217784820
This is the opinion of most people that aren’t miserable.
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>>217784887
>>217784909
I mean, Cooper is a badass, but you think ghouls shouldn’t count for some reason. Also there’s House, but you’ll say he’s evil when he isn’t.
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>>217784962
Both of those people are evil
Good people don't eat people or slap chips on bums' heads to make them explode
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>>217782663
God she is so perfect. she is basically what I've always made my characters look like
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>>217784982
Is she ever depicted barefoot in the show?
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>>217784992
No. =/
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>>217782995
>Gameplay wise
So what's your first language?
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>>217784976
By that standard Lucy is evil since she left Cooper for dead multiple times while Cooper has saved Lucy’s life multiple times.
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>>217782676
>Amazon series adaptations are set in alternate timeline, not the same timeline as the games
But the show is canon to the games.
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I like goggins but the ghoul is such a g ary stu epic deadpool cowboy and that shits mad gay. Main reason I won't watch it.
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>>217783133
would
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DEATH CLAAAAAAAWS IM GONNA CUM
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>>217782655
>I hate this show
>I watched 16 hours of this show I hate to tell you that it’s bad
Also
>don’t include the Courier as not to override anyone’s gameplay and decisions
>Autist gets mad
>Alternate universe where they DO include the courier and give them a canonical face, voice, armor set, faction, what have you
>Autist has a diabolical meltdown
With autists, you lose!
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>>217782655
Because it's a passably fun time waster and the deranged lunatics shitting themselves aren't a concern to normal human beings.
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>>217782655
>Ceasar is teased as this intense warlord/philosopher...BUT hes really just a goofy retarded idiot incel who is ingloriously killed off in an embarrassing way played for laughs and the legion is purely comic relief, zero tension of them as the antagonist
>Mr. House is teased as this 4d chess master technocrat...BUT hes really just a stupid chud Elon Musk capitalist and his grand plan is stupid and falls apart in the most obvious and stupid way possible while all the smart brown/female characters roll their eyes
>The NCR are the most bland, generic, nothing to them reluctantly anti-heros bc the showwriters needed a faction to root for and they landed on this one.
>They are generic "democracy" types, but they are corrupt to give them some edge and to play into the bullshit gray morality meme. Also, all the top generals and competent leaders are brown and/or women
I havent watched one second of this, but this is my guess on how the show plays out
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>>217785299
>by the standard of consistently doing bad things making you a bad person
she's certainly not squeaky clean anymore, no
actually leaving him for dead and saying 'the golden rule is for people' was extremely fucked up lol, that kinda demonstrated she was racist against ghouls, which she demonstrated again later when she blew the king's brains out and went "they're just ghouls"
she must have stopped thinking ghouls were people after the super duper mart incident
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Please bring the institute in to save this shitty show next season
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>>217783574
>this show is so awesome with good characters, they have good ethics and interesting goals and nice special effects with lots of different settings, deep lore to investigate into
this is not true. Everyone is either a fucking retarded idiot asshole who is cruely killed off for laughs or they are sociopathic evil monsters. None of them have any real motivation, none of them have interesting interactions with each other and the overall appeal of the lore and story of the game, the competing worldviews of the various factions which actually is engaging, is completely ignored.

Making vaulttech the ones who nuked the world is without a doubt the dumbest writing I've ever seen.
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>>217783574
Obvious ragebait, people with that kind of option usually don’t show up on the ‘chan. But that begs the question, where the fuck do all the smooth brained retards that basedpog at fan service and basic, mediocre writing hangout? r/fallout?
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>>217782873
For a long time I just accepted that my enjoyment of fallout 4 must be some lapse in taste, a blindspot in my judgment because I'm such a fan of the franchise. Whatever. Now that I see these so called hardcore fans articulate their opinions in the wake of the show I realise that nah, my gut was right.
Game aged like wine too. Last playthrough that corny voiced pc and I met like old friends.
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>>217783156
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE WATER CHIP BLOODY BASTARD FUK U BLOODY
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>>217786244
The gameplay was solid and that’s where my praise ends. The writing and story were legitimately some of the worst pieces of slop I’ve seen. If you told me the story was AI generated, I’d believe you.
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>>217782873
>the whole settlement system- which should have been just one town or inside rooms at other towns
You want to take the literal best part of the game and reduce its scope? Why are NV Troons so retarded?
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>>217786320
I mean to like retool what that anon was saying, I can say that it was pretty unfulfilling because you can’t really write a detailed, nuanced series of events when your gameplay loop is as open ended as the settlements stuff is. It’s fun to do as a new piece of gameplay, but gets boring very quickly because there’s no real substance there.
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>>217786076
nah how about we revive the enclave for like 6th times?
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>>217786307
My only complaint with the writing for the most part is the pc's dialogue, especially in the dlcs. What the fuck was his problem in nuka world? Smarmy asshole.
Other than that I love the setting. The institute is a cool threat and the brotherhood's pressence was strong. I have a BoS char I still load up and spam cleansing the commonwealth quests with Danse. Lots of fun switching up weapon types and power armor mods. The allure of interesting legendary weapons is always there. I know to a lot people that "endless gameplay loops" are taboo but I love having simple low stakes errands to give me an excuse to spend time living in fantasy worlds that I enjoy. Honestly, I haven't really engaged with the story in years so it could be worse than I'm giving it credit for lol
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>>217786375
Settlement building is awesome because with any imagination you can actually build your own empire and take over the wasteland. Its scale should have been expanded, not reduced.
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>>217786424
if you like mods and haven't tried it, check out Sim Settlements. Last time I checked it it had expansions to support factions like raiders and Bos. You can assign commanders to each settlement, send out recon parties and raid other settlements. I haven't had much time to really dig into it but what i played was impressive
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>>217786448
Yeah, I’ve messed around with mods, but typically I use mods that buff the minutemen.
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thaddeus is sexy hot
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>no mention of small town like goodsprings, primm, novac or nipton even though it's easy memberberries and goodsprings was literally put on the map by new vegas
>No caravan or gambling shown
>No powder gangsters
>No creatures like casadores or nightstalkers
>No showing of the more mundane aspect of the wasteland like caravans or crop farms
>No tribals even though they're easy diversity points by showing something like some sorrow or dead horse tribesmen
>No bigger raider groups like fiends or khans
>No followers of the apocalypse which misses the humanitarian aspect of the apocalypse like people still falling to shit like chems and alcoholism
>No power dynamics in freeside, kings are somehow turned into zombies and now full on elvis impersonator which misses the point because they don't even know who the king really was except he was an important man in the pre war era
>No casino families
>No boomers
>No mention of the dlc which features a cohesive overaching narrative about letting go of the past and building a worthy future based on conviction and belief

It's a meandering pointless show, even in /tv/ it's just propped by some gooner obsessed with the mid actress
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Every streaming platform wants to replicate the success of GoT. They want a rabid fanbase that consooms branded products, including halloween costumes. Since GoT had diversity and feminism, they think it's still a viable formula, and they are still in denial that feminism/diversity also tanked GoT going into the later seasons. But they don't care because they want their own echo chamber, while also degrading IPs that were once popular with only white male chuds (star wars, LotR, and more recently fallout). If you pay close attention to the subtext, every character and scene is a not so subtle fuck you to white male chuds. The goal is to pander to liberal s-yboys and feminists, whether or not it makes profit. Profit is no longer important since they have infinite funding. They spent billions on lawd dem rangs, and probably at least $100M on this fallout series. they tried to make it funny in that marvel-quippy style and every joke just falls flat. not even the home alone guy is funny. nothing is funny. it's all just annoying. As a non-libfag you would only watch it out of morbid curiosity, using a bootleg stream, and at most one or two eps. it feels like punishment for not setting up something to do for that hour.
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>>217786320
>the best part of the post apocalyptic roleplaying game is playing the sims build mode to automate shit that doesn't matter
God Fallout 4 is such a dog shit game.
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>>217786653
It is odd they haven't even mentioned the Boomers
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>>217786653
>No mention of the dlc which features a cohesive overaching narrative about letting go of the past and building a worthy future based on conviction and belief

Because the NV DLCs fucking suck, who do you think you’re fooling?
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>>217786734
Cooper Howard getting stuck at the Sierra Madre and having to fight those fucking cloud monsters would be horror kino though
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>>217786723
Now that I agree with. The Boomers are the most relevant minor faction in NV, they deserve a cameo more than the Kings, even if it’s just to show that they were destroyed.
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>>217786734
No they're good, adds to the story and moves the setting in an interesting way
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>>217786765
That shit would've been kino. Especially if he goes down to the vault and finds a way in and we see him try to carry all the gold bars out one by one.
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>>217782656
It really is the 2026 version of this, it's so pathetic
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>>217783133
I didn't think she could get hotter till I saw that interview
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Why do you falloutfags constantly need like 3 different threads up at the same time? Just make a general already.
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>>217787168
this was a /v/ thread before jannies cleaned it up
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>>217786653
Some things you mentioned like Novac, Khans, caravans, and crop farms are in the show. The rest of the stuff can just be handwaved with, "the Courier killed them all"
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>>217786653
Every time they showed anything from the games they ruined it. Why would you want them to show more?
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>>217782889
It was woke then as well libtard
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>>217787198
>lol just handwave all this shit to excuse sloppy or nonexistent writing
Ok
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>>217782655
somehow they are going to shove the institute into all of this and its going to be fucking hilarious
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>>217787198
I have watched the show and I wouldn't know that they did or didn't put the stuff I mentioned anyway x) but just reading the summaries and excerpt still gives the vibe that this show doesn't have anywhere to go or something to tell
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>>217787351
Nah, Institute is fucked. All three of the other factions victories in Fo4 require you to destroy the Institute, and as we’ve already seen, the Commonwealth BoS is still alive and well, so the Institute must have been destroyed.
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Did I miss the explanation on why you can stop deathclaws with some planks?
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>>217787575
Yeah thats what im so confused about, do none of the lone wander/sole survivors actions matter if the enclave and east coast brotherhood are still around??
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>>217787406
They're in it for the long haul. Season 3 was already confirmed months before the season 2 premiere.
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>>217782655
>ESL
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>>217787198
>The rest of the stuff can just be handwaved with, "the Courier killed them all"
Or just, they didn't come across literally every location in new vegas or it wasn't important enough to the plot to show it since it's a tv show with limited runtime
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>>217782655
Watched like one episode of season 2 because my brother was watching it and I just couldn't help but feel that the show would be way better without the DEI hires and that ugly bug eyed woman
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Reminder that these threads are made by people who have never watched the show and are just quoting other posters who haven't watched the show to farm outrage.
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>>217782655
I hope they can meet again
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>>217787261
the more honest culture warrior
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>>217782655
>bitch short haired woman steals the most important relic on the planet and gets away with it
who? wasn't the most important relic the cold fusion
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>>217782678
>This absolute trash fire full of Basketball Americans and Muh Stronk Womyn
>Peak
Nah.
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>>217784917
All actual human beings are miserable because we live in a post-hope hellscape full of brown people and communists. Everyone who isn't miserable is a brown person or a communist, but neither of those are human beings.
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>>217782655
>why normies liked this again?
They actually don't.
The only people praising it are zoomers who got n Fallout train with 4.
This is by the way the target audience of the show
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>>217784820
i like how they copied their homework from FNV but FNV still ends up being framed better and executes an actual artistic idea (displaying civilization behind the ranger, aka the idea of them safeguarding civilization in the wasteland from lawless fiends)

meanwhile the TV show copies the framing 1:1 without actually understanding the idea of what it represents. it's the perfect microcosm of bethesda fallout.
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>>217782655
Its a basic bitch television show with a midrange budget. Why are you shocked normies like it?
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i have not played game.
i have no idea whats going on and am sick of it,
wish i never start, stupid show.

t. Proud Canadian
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Isn't the point of role playing games to role play your own character? These RPG shows just don't work.
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>>217790183
GOOD MORNING SAAR
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>>217782682
On one hand I'm pissed the Enclave is back again, on the other hand they are objectively the best villains (in 2 at least) and are way better than le bladerunner robots like we got with the shitty Institute.

People under mind control seems like Todd walking back "everyone could be a robot from now on".
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>>217784820
>rewards the gamers
are we dogs who get kibble for sitting now?
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>>217782705
>the NCR return
so they hammered the fact that nuking ncr's capital basically dismantled it (retarded premise but okay)
every time NCR had been mentioned they were basically silhouettes of their former selves and apparently this has been the case for twenty years since nuking shady sands
now they got their shit together and magically picked up pieces of themselves because the plot demands it
the quality of writing here and the amount of mouthbreathers lauding this shit heap as the second coming of Jesus is something else
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ok so the reason we have the show take place in vegas is so umm we can build a villain's lair under lucky 38 and uh its totally secret cuz its located in the middle of vegas so they can release deathclaws onto the strip 200 years later so stop the umm protagonists from reaching the lucky 38 until we go thru 8 B-plots and uhh the NCR guys can also show up for 1min after 2 seasons
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>>217790437
Actually its worse, the ghoul walked from LA all the way to the mojave frontier and never saw NCR along the way but here's a provisioned and impeccable NCR battalion fighting in a border region of the NCR because the frontlines haven't changed for 15 years even though NCR is in such a bad shape they withdrew from their core territories like the Hub/Junktown and Boneyard, which they aren't interested in recapturing. The reason the frontlines haven't changed is because Legion are now held back by the combined might of THE GREAT KHANS who are back with a vengeance and it gets better the west coast chapters are now capable of building prydwen fleets when in FO3 it took the player character+the most powerful BoS chapter to build one after scrapping an entire enclave operation. Quintus's chapter also pushed the NCR out of Boneyard with an expeditionary force, and now they are producing A LIBERTY PRIME completely without the help of the militray industrial complext that originally built it for the US army.

Also, buy the NCR power armor bundle for $30 in Fallout 76
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>>217782663
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You guys complain, but isn't this exactly what you wanted from Westworld? Just random fun adventures in a theme park setting?
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why did the enclave build their super secret bunker under a casino?
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>>217785630
They aren't though. No matter what Todd says.
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>Show has something from the game.
"This is bad! It's just catering to nostalgia and doing le epic reference!"
>Show avoids something from the game.
"Oh my god, I can't believe they'd make a show about New Vegas and not show X or Y!"
>Show has something from the game have been destroyed.
"I can't believe they fucking ruined this! Do they hate the source material?!"
>Show has something from the game still prevail to this point in the story.
"Ugh, these guys are STILL here?! Don't the writers know this is getting fucking tiresome?!"
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>>217790672
>3 hands
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>>217790685
so they can release deathclaws right after the courier leaves new vegas as a prank so all his work is ruined obviously
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>>217791045
>shows something for just a few minutes only to kill them off
>"actually this is a good callback to the game"
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>lucky 38 just has a tunnel underneath it leading to the secret vault
they really just wrote themselves into a corner with episode 7 and realized they are out of time
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>>217791045
>"This is bad! It's just catering to nostalgia and doing le epic reference!"
nobody says this, unless it is actual mindless fanservice like much of the show is
>Oh my god, I can't believe they'd make a show about New Vegas and not show X or Y!"
they made a show about new vegas and deleting a faction from the setting, and then dance around the issue because hack writers think mystery boxes are amazing and the cattle that consumes the product think so too
>"I can't believe they fucking ruined this! Do they hate the source material?!"
see the above
>"Ugh, these guys are STILL here?! Don't the writers know this is getting fucking tiresome?!"
are you talking about the enclave super base hidden under lucky 38? yes, because its a dumb retcon that achieves nothing besides making sure my courier's actions are worthless, with a huge contrivance involving a plot of chipping an enclave colony from the quarry junction and transporting it to the strip, just to ensure that the protagonists dont get up to lucky 38's observation floor too early, before the show has had enough time to jingle keys in your face and progress the D-plots nobody cares about.
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>>217791045
Yeah, all arguments looks bad when you strawman them
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>>217791081
>cuts to thaddius with comedic timing
>"WOOOOO!" WHAT A SHOT!! HOT DAWG!
"OKIE DOKIE!"
*big iron starts playing*
*NCR LIBERTY PRIME smashes through the ground, PUNCHES SUPER MUTANT IN THE FACE*
>cuts to thaddius reaction: THAT'S GOTTA HURT!!!!!!!!
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>>217791045
Buy an ad.
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I think the show is pretty good and the writing is strong
>muh lore
stop screeching about random nonsense I've only seen insane nitpicking over it
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>>217784820
I wish that tweet was ironic jesus fucking christ.
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>>217791081
>>217791107
>>217791108
>>217791137
Explain to me what did you want the show to have in it.
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>>217791045
they will just complain about anything it's hilarious
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>>217784820
99% of the show's audience just watch it to feel smart about recognizing a faction from the popular video game they played and pointing a finger at the screen when it happens, it's why it has 99% critic and audience score on those aggregate sites.
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>>217791157
Not much, just utilizing the setting beyond memberberry and superficial references. This is the norm when it comes to bethesda adapting fallout though. They replicate iconography, not themes.
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>>217791107
>nobody says this,
I just scrolled up and the first four fucking posts in the thread are all saying that, didn't even need to keep looking down
> unless it is actual mindless fanservice
Good of you to pre-emtpively sabotage the discussion though
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>>217791189
Lots of words to say absolutely nothing of substance.
>"Use the setting... but not like that!"

Explain to me what you wanted the NCR to appear as.
Explain to me what you wanted the Legion to appear as.
Explain to me how you'd have had New Vegas appear as.
Explain to me how you wanted every single gang in New Vegas to appear as.
Explain to me how you wanted Courier to show up like and how you'd have reconciled the fact that every player's Courier might be wildly different from each other's and might have deleted entire factions from the game that at the same time you wanted to be there.
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>>217791045
They also don't even watch the show and just read online discourse for things to get angry about.
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>>217791202
You most likely strawmanned them. It's about pointless fanservice instead of utilizing the actual setting.
>Good of you to pre-emtpively sabotage the discussion though
let's take the NCR for example, mindless fanservice amounting to 1 min of screentime in 2 seasons of the events which started off by the writers deleting the faction from the game and then refusing to elaborate.

And why is it mindless? Ghoul walked from LA to NV and reported seeing no NCR around, yet here we have a fully provisioned, mint condition NCR battalion, fighting in a region that was part of a campaign envisioned by Kimball, who as we know from the show, is long dead. And instead of sending this battalion to recapture for example LA, they send it to a region which has lost its economic engine (the strip's casinos, and possibly even the dam), because they just happened to need them THERE, because that's where the protagonists were at the time. No thought behind anything the writers do with the factions, beyond the superficial,
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>bethesda/amazon's shit writing is now canon to whatever fallout game they do next
ewwwww
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>>217791262
As representative of their character as established by existing lore, and not cheap fan service objects for people who started with FO4.
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>>217791277
>FO4 is now the cutoff for being a fallout oldfag
kekaroo
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>>217791343
Yes? Anyone who either started with FO3 or FNV has a wholly different idea of what a good fallout adaptation includes.
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>>217791265
>Ghoul walked from LA to NV and reported seeing no NCR around
You can perfectly, in all of the Fallout games, cross from one extreme of the map in a straight line to another and never find any of the major factions, because the major factions usually operate in one or two settlements (in each game) only and just send parties outside. Lucy and Ghoul just walked in a straight line across no man's land and right into New Vegas, from which the NCR had recently been pushed out. And they did still find one of said parties.

>>217791277
Still not saying a single damn thing of substance.

You guys bitched when you thought New Vegas was empty and destroyed. Then it turned out only the Strip had been invaded by deathclaws and everyone moved to Freeside until they got cleared out, and still bitched.
You guys bitched when the Ghoul was being a cynical asshole who said the NCR was gone. Then it turned out the NCR ranger were actually right and the NCR was just regrouping to march back in, and still bitched.
You guys bitched when House was seemingly dead. Then it turned out House had yet more contingency plans and is still alive, and still bitched.

There is, quite literally, no scenario in which you'd have said it's good. There is no point in catering to you or listening to your opinions.
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>>217791262
no you are right, the show is perfect and beyond criticism
LOL BLOW THAT KING MEMBER'S BRAINS OUT WHILE ON DRUGS
LOL THEY ARE FIGHTING OVER A CORPSE ON A MOUND FOR 20 YEARS LOL AND THE NOTE IS JUST "THE LEGION DIES WITH ME"
LOL DEATHCLAWS IN THE STRIP, NOBODY IN FREESIDE IS BOTHERED AND BUSINESS IS BOOMING
LOLOLOL THE ENCLAVEGODS ARE JUST EVERYWHERE
THE NCR IS TAKING THE MOJAVE BEFORE THEIR FORMER HEARTLAND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THE WRITING IS SO GOOD!
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>>217782655
>no courier
This is good thing. Show version of courier would be terrible
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>>217791446
>LOL BLOW THAT KING MEMBER'S BRAINS OUT WHILE ON DRUGS
Blowing a ghoul's/gangster's brains out while on drugs is now not Fallout?
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you could just ignore the show entirely and go on about your today unbothered you know
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>>217791359
people said the same thing about fo3/NV to fo2/1
so I just think it's people being cranky

fallout has never really been that serious so being upset about lore just seems silly to me, it's always been a parody/campy franchise
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>>217791479
DAS RITE, KILL THOSE GANGSTERS!
I CLAPPED WHEN THEY DIED! THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD CALLBACK TO THE GAMES!
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House's plans all fail because.... The Enclave somehow returned.
Pay the writers 500k. NOW.
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>>217791489
there is a huge difference between 3 + NV and 4
at least 3 pretends to be serious and tries to have a serious story
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>>217782655
>shat on NW story
Pidorahi, pidorahi vegasodauni never change
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>>217791157
a plot that doesn't suck absolute shit and hinge on a neverending stream of macguffins and lazy rehashing of old, tired concepts
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The set designer did a good job and that's really about it.
It really is "we brought Fallout 4 vibes to the West Coast".
The only serious plotline is the Norm one which goes no where.
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>>217782655
cute little show to watch but not listen ( the songs are okay i guess) but i like watching the silliness like if it was a star trek episode
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>>217786515
This image just reminded me that SOMEONE cared about the original Colu 10mm from the first 2 games... that's the only point of praise I can give the first season. Chicken fucker got a chuckle or 2 out of me, that's about it. Fuck this goy cattle slop shitting all over my retro future masterpiece.
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>>217789256
no and fallout the games are not miserable play it tonight, treat yourself
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>>217791486
I did that with the second season of the last of us and part 2 of the game and I'm actually better off for it. Letting its corpse rot and fester is the biggest middle finger we can give this nigger shit.
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>>217791486
You could fuck off and kill yourself but life isn't always perfect.
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>>217791953
try calming down instead of lashing out in anger, it'll do wonders for you in real life
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they arent very subtle with the goycattle themes
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>>217791967
Actually I'll keep lashing out and making you my own personnal punching bag until I feel better and move on with my day.
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>>217792006
>until I feel better
so never then, gotcha
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>>217782655
me, just not watched it
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>>217782655
>>no courier
Anyone who was expecting a player character to show up is unironically braindead. Makes sense though given how much NVfags fellate their character compared to literally every other fallout game.
Oblivionfags are the equivalent for TES by the way.
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She's so damn fine. Easily the best girl in the show
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>>217792171
only with the 50's style hair
she looks forgettable here
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>>217791045
Most of the people complaining about this shit didn't watch any of it, just read twitter grifters and take their opinions as gospel
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>>217792225
>forgettable
You'd never get anyone looking like her in your lifetime lmao wtf u talking about retard
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>>217792325
Stop speaking for everyone because you are a ugly disgusting ghoul IRL, lmao
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>>217782655
The show is just setting up the future story for Fallout 5. That's why Brotherhood is in it; also, why would you want the courier in it? No matter how they portrayed them, people would cry.

Should have been tunnellers on the strip instead of Deathclaws, weak how the NCR only really appears for 10 mins
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>>217792359
Im not speaking for everyone im speaking for you internet incel. She's literally 10/10 and you pass it like a regular stacy. I don't believe you get to fuck anyone remotely as pretty as her. You aint fooling no one faggot.
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>>217792464
shut your fat ugly ass up nigga
lmao

keep crying bitch nigga
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>>217792483
keep dreaming small guy. delusional faggot lmao
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>>217792502
keep crying bitch nigga
lmao

Only a disgusting virgin would cry because someone said they look better with a different hair style

literally kill yourself uggo lmao
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>>217792512
Your statement was objectively wrong. You said she looks great only in 50's hairstyle. You have a shit taste lil buddy. Stick to bitchniggas nigga
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>>217791489
If you started with FO3 then you experienced FONV. If you started with FO4 you only experienced FO4 and FO76.That's the difference.

>>217791440
Except the settlements aren't "in a straight line". They are along roads. Video game's don't represent geography, they ABSTRACT it.

>You guys bitched when you thought New Vegas was empty and destroyed.
Yes and that's exactly what happened, and nobody "thought" it was destroyed, it was clear from s1 onwards.

> and everyone moved to Freeside
Ah yes, Freeside. The location which had its own culture groups and demographics, multiple factions and power dynamics at play. What did the show make of this? A cheap spectacle funny action scene of the King being executed to 50s rockabilly music, and a reminded that ghouls in FOTV's setting are impervious to physical damage. And a scene which seemed to have unfinished CGI, considering the greenscreen background for the ghoul's impalement clearly has a busy street full of "residents" but none actually interact or even notice the ghoul being impaled right next to them. They still left this scene in because that's how little Freeside matters to them. On top of being robotic, they have no survival instinct for first of all living next to a deathclaw nest, and secondly "taking bets" about whether or not they are going to survive instead of running away or trying to help Maximus, because the writers know that they will be saved by the NCR battalion which shouldn't be there, which is another issue, outlined here >>217790531 and >>217791265 here
> Ghoul was being a cynical asshole who said the NCR was gone
I see this repeated so often and I know because I've seen a reddit thread with 5000 updoots on it, but no. The Ghoul, once again, walked from LA (NCR heartland) to the extent of its border (NV) and said the NCR was gone. It's not cynicism, skepticism, suspicion, or guessing. He walked the road connecting LA and Mojave, and the NCR was gone. "Gone".
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>>217783574
What the fuck lmao
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>>217786174
Yes
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>why wasn't the show a life action of my New Vegas playthrough?
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>>217782655
sounds like it passed Emils school of writing with A+ grades
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>>217782675
this implies they actually played any of the games instead of just skimming the wiki articles with a passing glance
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>>217782705
>So Fallout is just forever fucked to be "Generic Post-Apocalypse" IP forever, right?
yup. Closest you get to continuing the original line is hobby mods like Sonora and the upcoming Bakersfield.

Dont take it personally, Fallouts degeneration directly follows with how retarded the average population is getting. In US right now majority of adults have a reading comprehension barely above sixth grade. While the younger teenagers rarely go beyond third grade. A generation or two after that will be illiterate and only react to funny pictures flashed to them on Tik Tok. Current Todd&Emil Fallout and TV show with their incoherent nonsense settings might even be too high brow for these young up and comers

its directly tied to advent of social media and plummeting attention spans
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>>217791134
Fuck yeah ten more season
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Everyone who shits on the show is a tourist and has no media literacy.
They had a battalion in the east lil bro, they were always gonna show up.
Why didn't they do anything for 20 years? Well.. You see... They were waiting.. Waiting for... The... black woman to call them.
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>>217790531
sounds about on par with everything else in Emil tier writing so what is the problem?
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It's like the consoomer feels that he owes a debt to the media company, or the media franchise, to consume whatever slop they put out, that the debt is owed because they entertained him in childhood.
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>>217791100
I find it really funny that you guys think they are writing and producing these shows on the fly
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>>217793517
they had to wrap this shit up in 8 episodes and they really didn't achieve that.
what's the other explanation for the secret tunnel beneath the Lucky 38 leading to a fucking secret vault
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>>217793631
what's even funnier is you guys act like every episode is the last one. every single time. I imagine there aren't a lot of internal monologues in this thread
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>>217783574
Jesus christ by an ad
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>>217793765
>what's even funnier is you guys act like every episode is the last one
this WAS the last episode
>AKSHUALLY ITS THE LAST EPISODE OF THE SEASON YOU WILL GET ANSWERS IN SEASON 3 IN 2 YEARS
kys
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>>217794097
Try to imagine you're discussing a show that finished years ago, like the last episode of sopranos season 2
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>>217786653
Primm showed up in the background in one scene



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