>literally god-like strength>literally god-like speed>literally god-like agility>can't aim a handgun for shitWhat am I not understanding, /tv/?
>>217783215it's not their fault that the humans have plot armor
bmup lol you guys are way faster than /mu/
>>217783215>Finite ammo for some reasonCan't the matrix hook an agent up?
>>217783584there are rules
>>217783215They’re programs. Neo and crew are hackers.
>>217783215I really wish i could pull off agent cosplay but im black :(
>>217783215The fact that programs are sentient and are capable of forming personalities and having emotions means that they can easily go rogue (which is exactly what Smith ended up doing) so the machines don't want to give any program too much power. If a program has the ability to explode a human's head with the snap of a finger and starts going schizo the machines lose their whole power plant.
>>217784936I think the machines aren't in total control of the Matrix and there is no way to rewrite and reboot this whole thing, its probably bugged and glitched beyond repair, maybe also faulty hardware that forces them to run the matrix endlessly until they'll find a solution like.. building a whole new matrixOh wait, here goes a /tv/-schizo pitch for Matrix 5:The machines finally solved their problem and built a whole new Matrix and are now migrating people over it and thats where.. Stuff happens Enjoy!
>>217784787could still be a Morpheus that got turned into an agent
>>217784787>Be black>Do Matrix Agent Smith cosplay>Everyone thinks you’re Agent J from MIB
>>217783215You weren't paying attention. The agents deliberately pulled punches with Neo to fulfill his purpose as the One.
>>217784787Just wear White Face makeup
>>217785208You should really disregard everything in Reloaded and Revolutions.
>>217783215The movie literally tells you they can bend the rules of physics but aren't allowed to break it
>>217784787ShameIf you were yellow people would get you are a bug
>>217784991>>217784936I'm fascinated by the one time the Matrix visibly "cheats"It's such a small thing really, replacing a window with a brick wall, and even that apparently is fairly difficult for the machines to pull off since it fucks up the nearby catThis concept is NEVER revisited, is it?
>>217785558I wish Mouse had lived longer. He was a great character
>>217785584He had to move on to selling death sticks
>>217783215Dodge this.
>>217783215>Smith penetrates you>You become SmithWas he a metaphor for faggots?
>>217785208Cool headcanon but that's never even implied in the movies
>>217785558Apparently it happens enough that everyone froze when neo said he had deja vu. In the sequels he can re-write the matrix on the fly to do anything, so brick walls aren't going to stop him. And the only time he fights other agents is in the very beginning of the second movie before smith shows up.
Smith was the One.
>>217785558I'd say some stuff like that does happen again but it doesn't stutters the simulation causing a deja vu. Like the various doors they can open which lead to far off places with one stranding Neo out in the mountains. It's different than making a window into a brick wall though. The agents really should be able to do far more than that. Like trap the good guys in a mile thick cube of titanium so they can't punch their way out. Or change the building to be rigged with explosives. That's what forced the good guys to negotiate and be worried about all the floors exploding. Shouldn't be that hard for agents to change on the fly
>>217785558the animatrix episode 'beyond' dives deeper into this concept. but that's about it sadly.
>>217783215I know this kind of logic can be used as a copout but sometimes it's just a story. The fact that they have to chase the humans in the first place already shows some limitations
>>217783215>can't aim a handgun for shitThe movie doesn't show them aiming badly. The misses that I can think of are when Trinity is running and Neo is running, and the bullets hit close to them. When Neo does his slow mo dodge the bullets graze him even with super speed. Smith is pretty good at shooting Morpheus through the wall and then scoring a couple hits on the helicopter.You might reasonably ask why they don't have insta-headshot aimbot skills, but the lack thereof is not "can't aim a handgun for shit."
>>217785558I'm fascinated that Cypher was able to be in the Matrix to meet with Smith. He had to have been in cahoots with someone on the ship.
>>217783215Being able to strongly point a gun, or to quickly point a gun, or to nimbly fire a gun doesn't change the amount of propellant force with which the bullets leave the gun. None of that changes the speed that the bullet moves. None of that changes the direction that the bullet moves. None of that changes trajectories, physics, wind speed, drag resistances, velocities, angles, or remove impediments.And don't forget the fact that Neo is Matrix Jesus and that Trinity and Morpheus are basically demi-gods. Agents aren't shooting at unaware bluepills for target practice, they are firing at awakened, knowing, trained, extremely super elite Matrix redpills that can themselves bend rules.Knowing all that, Morpheus and Trinity STILL get shot and Neo gets grazed a bunch and then gets a whole clip fed in to him.
>>217783215He was elf in lord of rings
>>217783316Some plot armor. All three get shot. Neo literally gets shot TO DEATH.
>>217783584The Matrix isn't an entity, it is an environment. So no, it can't hook an agent up with infinite clips. The system has rules. Order has to be maintained. The only willing script writing program able to write infinite clip hacks would be the Oracle, but Agents aren't her subordinates. She wouldn't power up her opponents.
>>217784936Every Exile program fall into this category. The Oracle outright says it to Neo during their conversation on the park bench in Reloaded. Vampires, werewolves, aliens - all programs doing things they're not supposed to be doing.Also explains how Trainman so easily bodied The One.
>>217784991You paid attention to the Architect scene right? The Matrix HAS been rebooted. The One is an unavoidable rift in the system. The Matrix, as a complete program, can't exist with the One ALSO existing.It's like playing Pokémon Blue on GameBoy Original and coming across MISSINGNO. Kanto is the Matrix, MissingNo is The One.
>>217785208When you think of the totality of the Matrix franchise as a story of a custody battle where the mom (the Oracle) wants to keep the kids (redpills) and the dad (the Architect) wants to keep the kids (bluepills), the mom employs friends and other family members (rogues, exiled programs, Seraph, the Potentials) to convince the kids to choose to stay with their mother. The dad uses the state law enforcement, children's aid, family services, lawyers (Agents) to keep the kids.Dad follows the letter of the law to raise kids, mom follows the spirit of the law to raise kids. Both parents want what's best for their children, they just disagree on methodology. The Architect and the Oracle both need and want the Matrix to exist, they just disagree on how it should be utilised.
>>217785488Some can be bent, others can be broken. Now hit me...if you can.
>>217785558The Matrix didn't cheat. The Matrix can't do anything. It's a system. It's something that can be cheated. By an outside force. Like 01 or The Architect. In the deja vu scene its even explained as the phenomena people feel subjectively when "they" go and objectively "change something".It's like in Inception, when you call too much attention to the fact that you're dreaming, and/or do something so outside the rules of the dream, the other people in the dream attack you. That's why Ariadne got swamped by a mob at the coffee cafe.
>>217786198Corruption.
>>217789097Hit me with your best shot. Fire away.
>>217786293UPGRADED Agents.
>>217783584If they did that then it would be exploited by anyone who knew they were in the matrix. It has to be so closed source by design.
>>217787220Not necessarily. Redpills connect to the Matrix for all kinds of reasons, even leisure. Espionage, fathering intelligence, recruiting Potentials, dealing with Rogues or Exiles, going to see the Oracle, communicating with insiders, coordinating efforts with other ships inside of the Matrix, rather than outside of it for efficiency sake. Cypher communicating with 01 via pre-established dead drop is not so unlikely. He himself said he spent many sleepless nights looking at the Matrix while out on patrol and his shipmates slept. He was arranging his meeting with Smith on the ship computers before Neo startled him, he changed the screens, and then he made the conversation about blondes, brunettes, and redheads. Agents can be activated at any time, instantly.So Cypher drops a dead drop, with prearranged coordinates and instructions that he be met at a certain time and place, and Smith can just appear by taking over the waiter.Cypher had to be plugged in by Tank or Dozer. That doesn't mean they were in on it. Especially unlikely since Dozer gets murdered and Tank gets grievously wounded in the process.
>>217783215What ps2 game is this again?
>>217789184They had to follow their own rules because getting too much attention to their rule breaking is exactly the sort of thing that leads to self-redpilling among bluepills. The Kid and the Sprinter from World Record spontaneously woke themselves up.When the system doesn't behave, people notice. When people notice, they wake up.
>>217783215They're still bound by the rules of the Matrix even if they're granted some leeway with how much they can break those rules.
>>217785512Based.
>>217789258Ugh the sequels are so bad
>>217783215Daily reminder that Matrix is only the first movie and the rest is shit and doesn't' existenjoy
>>217783215>godlikeThey're Spider-man level at best. Actually, Spider-man has far better strength feats.
>>217783215They are retards who use Desert Eagles, even Superman couldn't aim properly with that piece of shit.
>>217788971And ghosts. These guys are clearly (program) ghosts.
>>217783215Neo and co use focus mode like in the games. All canon.
lol
>>217788971>Also explains how Trainman so easily bodied The One.In the Matrix the Trainman is useless, Neo (and almost anyone else) would pummel him instantly. But the train station is a separate construct, it's not inside the Matrix. Neo's One coding doesn't work there, the system is designed to give only Trainman god mode.
>>217789247>Cypher had to be plugged in by Tank or Dozer.not necessarily. we see neo come-to with the plug still in his head after the "desert of the real" scene and he is fully conscious while he struggles to get the plug out, meaning plug-in-head does not always mean instant unconsciousness. in my headcanon, cypher wrote a simple program that activates the matrix connection on a timer.>upload program>hop into chair>insert plug>connect to matrix seconds later>meet agents>agents disconnect cypher after the meetingsimple, clean, no witnesses
>>217783215Better question is why can't they just make themselves more durable instead of making themselves fast enough to dodge bullets.
>>217793841they are programs but dont they still have to inhabit human bodies?
